Master Index of Archived Threads


Clayton Kash-Shaw

Edgy MD Jan 15 2014 02:53 PM

Seven-year extension, $2[u:r8lppei8]1[/u:r8lppei8]5 million. Escape clause after five.

Ceetar Jan 15 2014 03:00 PM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

Edgy MD wrote: Seven-year extension, $25 million. Escape clause after five. wow, $3.5 a year or so seems like a steal! ($215 really) Pretty fair deal all around I guess. pitcher's being what they are.

Edgy MD Jan 15 2014 04:49 PM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

My "1" key was sticky today.

Gwreck Jan 15 2014 10:48 PM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

I bet he turns out to be worth it

Edgy MD Jan 16 2014 06:26 AM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

Maybe. but not many pitchers have been.

Lefty Specialist Jan 16 2014 06:47 AM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

They always reach year 7 of deals like this and people will say, "What were they thinking?"

Edgy MD Jan 16 2014 07:11 AM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

Or in the cases of Mike Hampton and Barry Zito, year one.

MFS62 Jan 16 2014 07:39 AM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

Will they still have enough money to sign that Japanese pitcher (Tanaka?), or does this mean the path has been eased for the MFYs to get him? Hoping this deal will be Zito-like, but worse. Later

Edgy MD Jan 16 2014 07:50 AM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

With most teams, including the Mets (perhaps especially the Mets), it's almost never about cash on hand, but projected revenue streams and appreciation and depreciation and yadda yadda. Who knows where they're going, but I think they're looking pretty over-leveraged for a 92-win team. Three long-term, big-buckz contracts in the rotation alone is quite a haul.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 16 2014 06:16 PM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

Lefty Specialist wrote: They always reach year 7 of deals like this and people will say, "What were they thinking?" Except this is the guy-- 25 y/o, top of his field-- you SHOULD be lavishing with 7-year deals, and the situation-- hot-air-inflation-ridden market... and a 25-year-old two-time Cy winner-- in which you should be willing to lock in a guy. If he stays healthy, he'll be opting out for an ungodly amount of money at age-30.

Ashie62 Jan 16 2014 07:09 PM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

When I think of the money Taneka may get... Kershaw may be a steal of sorts...

Gwreck Jan 17 2014 11:16 PM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: and a 25-year-old two-time Cy winner At the risk of sacrilege here, it probably should have been 3. No matter how good the R.A. Dickey narrative was.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 17 2014 11:25 PM Re: Clayton Kash-Shaw

and a 25-year-old two-time Cy winner At the risk of sacrilege here, it probably should have been 3. No matter how good the R.A. Dickey narrative was. This wouldn't be the first time that a Met pitcher might've gotten into the meat middle of someone else's Cy Young sandwich, thus preventing a three-peat. At the risk of even more sacrilege, go and compare Seaver and Gibson's '69 stats, with close attention to some of those stats that either didn't exist, or were largely ignored 45 years ago. There might be a Mets precedent for Dickey's thwart*. Seaver had the ever-important Wins, the WHIP and the "terrific" story. Gibby had just about everything else. And Gibby did it for 40+ more innings than Seaver did. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagu ... ders.shtml *Assuming, of course, that you think Dickey was undeserving of his CYA in the first place.