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TheOldMole Jan 22 2014 05:02 PM

Parnell took complete control of the closer role last season, becoming one of the most reliable high-leverage relievers (HLR) in baseball. Always nice to know there's already an acronym for something I've never heard of.

Ashie62 Jan 22 2014 09:43 PM Re: Broken arrow

What is a high leverage reliever?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 22 2014 09:56 PM Re: Broken arrow

"High-leverage" situations are the most important situation/situations in any given game-- the plays/circumstances during which dramatic swings in win expectancy are most possible (late-game, 2 out/bases loaded, e.g.). This is the first time I've ever heard of that acronym, though.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2014 10:08 PM Re: Broken arrow

But is the stat measuring a repeatable skill, or randomness? It's the bullpen version of clutch hitting, isn't it?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 22 2014 10:20 PM Re: Broken arrow

Which stat? Win Expectancy? Leverage Index? I don't think "HLR" is a stat, per se.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2014 11:07 PM Re: Broken arrow

Okay. HLR isn't a stat. But isn't calling a reliever an HLR kind of like calling a batter a clutch hitter?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 22 2014 11:10 PM Re: Broken arrow

I'd have to see a little more about the context in which that guy/gal was using it. To my mind, "high-leverage reliever" is just longhand for "high-end/good reliever."

Edgy MD Jan 23 2014 07:26 AM Re: Broken arrow

Wouldn't it be grate if the language that evolved (or devolved) from "stopper" to "closer" started evolving further, moving the zeitgeist from "closer" to "high-leverage reliever," and then actual usage started reflecting the changing language? Wouldn't it be great if the Mets were ahead of the curve in that department?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 23 2014 07:47 AM Re: Broken arrow

I think that's the idea behind that expression, though I must say I hate hate hate breaking up sentences with three initials in parentheses (TIP) especially when, in this case, it doesn't designate anything official (DAO).

Edgy MD Jan 23 2014 07:51 AM Re: Broken arrow

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Okay. HLR isn't a stat. But isn't calling a reliever an HLR kind of like calling a batter a clutch hitter? No, because it designates how and when he's used, rather than how he effectively performs. It's more like calling a batter a pinch hitter.

Ceetar Jan 23 2014 07:54 AM Re: Broken arrow

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think that's the idea behind that expression, though I must say I hate hate hate breaking up sentences with three initials in parentheses (TIP) especially when, in this case, it doesn't designate anything official (DAO). Where's this coming from anyway? If HLR is being used so the writer doesn't have to type High Leverage Reliever a billion times in a post, i'm all good. This really just speaks to the Mets offense more than anything. no big leads.

Ashie62 Jan 23 2014 05:59 PM Re: Broken arrow

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I'd have to see a little more about the context in which that guy/gal was using it. To my mind, "high-leverage reliever" is just longhand for "high-end/good reliever." I thought high leverage was a term for risk used in the military or finance...And apparently baseball.. Or....a risky happy ending...