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The Toughest Job in Sports
batmagadanleadoff Jan 30 2014 01:29 PM |
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Why Steve Phillips says being Mets GM is toughest job in sports
http://nypost.com/2014/01/29/ex-gm-phil ... in-sports/
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Zvon Jan 30 2014 01:36 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I read this in the paper today.
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themetfairy Jan 30 2014 01:41 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I agree with you Zvon. Other organizations treat their fans better than the Mets do. After years of the opposite of customer service it will be hard if not impossible for the Wilpons to rebuild a positive relationship with the fans, no matter how successful the team might be.
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Ceetar Jan 30 2014 01:43 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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forgotten not forgiven. Nobody praises the owners but no one will talk about them much.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 30 2014 01:47 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
You've got to hand it to Steve Phillips: The man never burned a bridge.
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 30 2014 01:47 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
Any goodwill that would come from a World Championship could easily be gone by the following May.
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d'Kong76 Jan 30 2014 01:52 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
* Entirely negative -- it took me longer than others, but they
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seawolf17 Jan 30 2014 01:55 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
If this team won the World Series this year, I'd go to the parade and cheer every single car I saw, from Dabidrye down to the clubbies -- except I'd boo the Wilpons with every fiber of my being.
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Edgy MD Jan 30 2014 02:03 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
'most-disliked owners in professional sports"
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Zvon Jan 30 2014 02:08 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
You have to think that they feel if they can bring a championship home it'll change everything with the fans. And I think a poll like Grimms would prove that it wouldn't. I wonder if the Wilpons knew that if they would just give up and sell. Even if the team wins they're in a no win scenario.
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Edgy MD Jan 30 2014 02:11 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I don't believe that at all.
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Ceetar Jan 30 2014 02:15 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
you think they care about the fans? They'll enjoy winning.
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batmagadanleadoff Jan 30 2014 02:15 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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They already won. Years ago. They bought the New York National League MLB franchise, probably with money they didn't even have. They own all the land surrounding their ballpark. They have an ownership interest in SNY. They're probably worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. No win?
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d'Kong76 Jan 30 2014 02:16 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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Lefty Specialist Jan 30 2014 02:20 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I think Met fans understand that if they ever win the World Series, it'll be despite the Wilpons, not because of them.
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d'Kong76 Jan 30 2014 02:26 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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God knows what they own and owe. Real Estate is a funny business, I'd be shocked if the empire isn't worth billions, there's all kinds of ways to account for wealth.
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Zvon Jan 30 2014 02:31 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
When it comes to "no win" I'm talking in relation to the fans.
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Zvon Jan 30 2014 02:32 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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Kool. You found bangpow!
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Ceetar Jan 30 2014 02:39 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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We're watching millionaires play sports for teams owned by billionaires signing billion dollar deals with TV companies. They (and pretty much all of them) care about us only so far as it's good PR to be on good terms with the fans. The vitriol directed at the Wilpons pretty much makes it no win for them in that regard anyway. I dunno. Let's say we're at the 2017 World Series parade for the Mets. are you actually less happy if it's the Wilpons that still own the team than if it's "Random rich financial big-wig you haven't heard of before"?
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Frayed Knot Jan 30 2014 02:42 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
Think back to a moment to the NY (football) Giants of the 1970s when there was no more disliked owners than the Maras (uncle & nephew). Season tickets were publicly burned, planes were hired to fly over the stadium during games trailing anti-onwer banners, etc.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 30 2014 02:50 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I've said it a million times: I think the Wilpons mean well but just cannot be trusted to manage the franchise competently.
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d'Kong76 Jan 30 2014 03:34 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I always see Jeff as the dumb one, perhaps unfairly. It
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Nymr83 Jan 30 2014 06:00 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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I don't even think they are the least popular owners in New York.
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Edgy MD Jan 30 2014 06:06 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
Or the worst. I agree.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 30 2014 06:13 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
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This. Only Jeff's worse, because he's got that born-on-third thing, too, and a little more apparent venality. That said...
In a world of Jerry Joneses and Dan Snyders and Jeff Lorias and Donald Sterlings for Chrissakes hat's a bold assertion. I'd put them at third in NY, behind the Dolans and Charles Wang.
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d'Kong76 Jan 30 2014 06:48 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
Bold opinion, at worst.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 30 2014 07:59 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I think Jeff is a weenie, but his dumb-ass dad is the one who bends over for Bud Selig, and says idiotic things to New York Magazine reporters, and designed a stadium nobody but him could love, and became successful behind bogus investments, and was blown away by Art Howe, and who fired Bobby Valentine, and who schmoozed Tom Glavine, and favors an organization where nobody is accountable but scapegoats always get named, etc etc. Jeff's just his weenie son.
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d'Kong76 Jan 30 2014 08:33 PM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
Amen.
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smg58 Jan 31 2014 05:38 AM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
Did anybody else notice that the article lists Alomar, Vaughn, and Burnitz as "free-agent busts" when Phillips traded for all three?
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 31 2014 06:36 AM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
I've seen this kind of thing before; some writers seem to think that anyone who arrives along with a high salary is a "free agent".
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Edgy MD Jan 31 2014 07:30 AM Re: The Toughest Job in Sports |
Not a few fans do also. The real free agent bust was Appier --- it's just that most of the disappointing returns on that deal came in the person of Vaughn.
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