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Politics in 2014
Benjamin Grimm Jan 24 2014 11:57 AM |
I didn't see it, but news reports say that John Boehner told Jay Leno that he won't run for president because he doesn't want to give up smoking, wine, and golf.
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Edgy MD Jan 24 2014 12:25 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Golf's like a requirement for being a president.
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Frayed Knot Jan 24 2014 12:33 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Why not? Obama managed two terms despite indulging in at least two of those when he was elected. He still golfs (a lot) and I'm sure enjoys the occasional glass of wine too. He claims to have quit smoking but I'm not sure I'd take that bet to the bank.
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Edgy MD Jan 24 2014 12:39 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Boehner likely ain't running because (1) he seems to like his current job, as thankless and loveless at it seems, and (2) it'd turn the election into a referendum on the shutdown, which will otherwise largely be forgotten by election time.
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Ashie62 Jan 24 2014 05:25 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Boehner seems perfectly happy where he is...and kinda burned out at that..
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 24 2014 07:21 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Exciting couple of days for the boss.
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Zvon Jan 24 2014 10:20 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Boehners lucky to be where he is and he knows it.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 25 2014 03:20 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I'm not certain "happy" is the right word for how Boehner's feeling about his position. "Burned-out" is closer. "Resigned," "fortunate," and "trapped" seem yet closer.
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Edgy MD Jan 25 2014 04:46 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
It's weird, because he does seem trapped, but reports typically suggest he really likes the job, as thankless as it seems.
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Frayed Knot Jan 27 2014 07:35 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
This current string of three consecutive two-term presidencies, Clinton, Bush & Obama (assuming Barack finishes out his) will be only the second time in the nation's history that that has happened, and the first since numbers 3, 4 & 5: Jefferson, Madison, & Monroe.
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Edgy MD Jan 27 2014 07:41 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Don't put a damper on the State of the Union.
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 27 2014 07:43 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
It's hard to imagine that anything at all could diminish the wild popularity of the annual State of the Union address.
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d'Kong76 Jan 28 2014 07:48 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
The State of the Union Address is always the funniest
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Edgy MD Jan 29 2014 02:00 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Go off topic with Congressman Grimm, he will break you like a boy.
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Nymr83 Jan 29 2014 02:25 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Still glad i voted for him and wish i still lived in staten island so i could do so again. Fuck the reporter, id be pissed off too if i was doing you a favor and you took a cheap shot at me like that.
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Edgy MD Jan 29 2014 02:46 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Really?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 29 2014 05:58 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Y'know one could argue that verbally and physically threatening a much smaller man for doing his job-- zealously, in a way that makes you annoyed/uncomfortable, but not unethically-- isn't the most honorable move for anybody to make, much less for an ostensible public servant, former law enforcement officer, and ex-Marine.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 29 2014 06:42 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I want to move to Staten Island just to vote against the guy. Cheap shot? He didn't even ask the question. And I guess we're taking this douchebag at his word that these "ground rules" were established, becuase it certainly didn't appear to the reporter that's what was agreed to.
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Nymr83 Jan 29 2014 07:02 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I CERTAINLY take Grimm at his word over a journalist.
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Edgy MD Jan 29 2014 08:12 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
We're going to disparage an entire profession for dishonesty in order to justify this guy who just threatened to murder somebody in the Capitol?
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batmagadanleadoff Jan 29 2014 08:17 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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That Grimm is a fucking thug and a scary guy. And I don't mind saying so, so long as I'm anonymous here. (I don't want nobody breaking my kneecaps and this roid rage politician reads like the guy that knows 500 guys that'll break 'em). [youtube]bdw31G38s9A[/youtube] January 29, 2014 Is Michael Grimm Man Enough to Serve? Posted by Evan Ratliff
Grimm Night Club Incident More Grimm Shenanigans More Grimm http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... e-1.945072 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/28/nyreg ... wanted=all http://www.bkmag.com/2013/10/15/did-a-c ... -bathroom/ http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/nyreg ... f=nyregion
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 29 2014 08:24 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
BML beat me to the punch. Nobody's been "cleared" of anything.
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Edgy MD Jan 29 2014 08:35 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Sorry, I had understood he was clear of the radius on the fundraising investigation.
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 29 2014 08:35 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I'm starting to take this personally!
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Mets – Willets Point Jan 29 2014 08:55 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I keep thinking of you every time I see "Grimm" in these posts. Of course, a big scaly monster is not one to mess with under any circumstances.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 30 2014 06:40 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Some journalists are nice people. Really. Mets fans, even.
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Vic Sage Jan 30 2014 08:20 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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...because journalists have nothing to lose by lying and losing credibility, which their entire careers are based on, but politicians, particularly one with this track record, never dissemble to serve themselves. see, this is the problem with being an ideologue. all facts are received through a filter which distorts reality until it conforms to pre-existing views.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 30 2014 09:52 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I think the sarcasm meter was on and he was saying he takes to word of the journalist over the politico. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 30 2014 09:55 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I didn't get that he was being sarcastic.
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batmagadanleadoff Jan 30 2014 10:05 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/b ... hmann.html
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Ceetar Jan 30 2014 10:14 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
gee, that reads just like the Onion.
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Mets – Willets Point Jan 30 2014 10:18 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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The Borowitz Report is an Onion-like news satire column.
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Ceetar Jan 30 2014 10:21 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Aha! didn't know that.
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Mets – Willets Point Jan 30 2014 10:23 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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A lot of people don't especially with The New Yorker header giving it credibility. As to Hawking's new study, all I can say is "huh?"
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Edgy MD Jan 30 2014 10:27 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
If we can't trust the credibility of The Black Hole, then Escape from Witch Mountain and Tron go right out the window too!
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 30 2014 11:29 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Wait, are you telling me that writing in "Give $1 To Shrinking Human-Interior Spaceships" on my tax filing since the '70s has been a fool's errand?
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Zvon Jan 30 2014 12:59 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Ha. We noticed.
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batmagadanleadoff Jan 30 2014 01:01 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Possible criminal charge discussed over Rep. Grimm confrontation with reporter
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01 ... -reporter/ Law enforcement must have a raging hard-on for this shady politician if they're considering whether to press criminal charges over that incident.
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Ceetar Jan 30 2014 01:06 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Fox News is the parody on the other side of the fence right?
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Edgy MD Jan 30 2014 01:21 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
There's nothing in that report that sounds like a parody.
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Lefty Specialist Jan 31 2014 06:59 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Perhaps the Congressman should choose who he decides to intimidate more carefully....
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Frayed Knot Feb 12 2014 01:16 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin convicted on 21 of 22 counts of bribery.
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Nymr83 Feb 12 2014 01:48 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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They've yet to convict him for gross negligence in ignoring state officials who told him to evacuate the city much sooner
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Frayed Knot Mar 18 2014 10:02 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Surely I can't be the only one who pictures Putin* confronting some western ambassador:
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Lefty Specialist Mar 18 2014 11:46 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Let's hope he turns out like Moe Green.
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Frayed Knot Mar 18 2014 11:49 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Ashie62 Mar 18 2014 12:24 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I believe Romney said during the Election that Russia was our most serious foe....
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 18 2014 08:51 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I believe the president's dismissive quote was "The 1980s called, and they want their foreign policy back." Romney was correct about that and many other things.
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Edgy MD Mar 19 2014 08:43 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Well, it was one of those planned zings that you've JUST GOT TO GET IN THERE. The president landed that one in a debate months after Romney made that quote, and in response to Romney speaking about the threat of Al Qaeda.
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Nymr83 Mar 19 2014 10:33 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Obama is reportedly also considering offering to give Putin the Sudetenland if he promises to behave himself.
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Edgy MD Mar 19 2014 10:46 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
...zings that you've JUST GOT TO GET IN THERE. ...in there... ... in there... .
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Lefty Specialist Mar 20 2014 09:21 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Giggle if you want about Romney being 'right', but what exactly would a President Romney or a President McCain have done in this circumstance? Probably pretty much the same things Obama would have done, because nobody's stupid enough to get into a war over Crimea. They like to carp, but when the rubber hits the road, there's very little you can do in this instance, certainly nothing militarily.
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Nymr83 Mar 20 2014 09:36 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Obama sounds like a big pussy in his speech this morning, using lota of words to anounce that we arent going to do anything real about the invasion, which he refused to even call such.
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sharpie Mar 20 2014 09:40 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
GW Bush was President in 08, Obama was sworn in in 09.
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Nymr83 Mar 20 2014 09:48 AM Re: Politics in 2014 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 20 2014 09:50 AM |
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You may wish to look "aftermath" up in a dictionary, not that Bush handled it well either.
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TransMonk Mar 20 2014 09:50 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I'm seriously glad I don't poke my head in here more often.
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Edgy MD Mar 20 2014 09:56 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Well, I'm not expert on foreign policy and don't pretend to be. In fact, if you met me, I'm the first guy you'd call a pussy, if calling people a pussy is the kind of thing you do. (Which I really don't think you should do.)
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Lefty Specialist Mar 20 2014 11:26 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Let's not forget that the most surprised guy here was not Obama, but Putin. He had his 'guy' in Ukraine, ready to cooperate just like the good old KGB days. He was setting up a cooperation sphere to keep Ukraine in the Russian orbit, rather than the EU's. They'd sent a nice big check ($15 billion) to keep his guy happy and pledged to cut the price of natural gas by a third. So Vlad thought he had this all taken care of, but those pesky people got in the way, eventually running a democratically-elected leader out of the country. (He was a corrupt thug, but he was elected in a free and fair election).
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Frayed Knot Mar 20 2014 12:08 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
The other thing that Putin's action does is takes a chunk of the pro-Russian peeps out of Ukraine leaving the remainder to be more pro-west than before.
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Ashie62 Mar 20 2014 12:25 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
All of this could put "Back in the U.S.S.R" back on the charts.
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Lefty Specialist Mar 20 2014 01:16 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Ukraine girls really knock me out! They leave the West behind!
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 20 2014 01:24 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I don't think anyone is giggling at all. And I do not know exactly what a President Romney would have done differently. I do know that candidate Romney raised Russia as an issue, and President Obama not only disagreed with him, but dismissed and belittled him. And the president, having already been in office for nearly four years at that point, should have known better. (Had he made the same claim as candidate Obama four years prior, I don't think there would have been as much criticism.)
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TransMonk Mar 20 2014 04:15 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Campaign rhetoric and actual policy are night and day.
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Edgy MD Mar 20 2014 04:23 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Well, I tried to suggest a few things upstairs that they would have done differently, though it takes a much more Brzezinskinian mind than my own to know what outcomes they would have led to.
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Lefty Specialist Mar 20 2014 04:54 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Vlad wants Russia to be respected. Russia was humiliated in the early post-Soviet days, and it still sticks in his craw that the old Soviet Union broke up- he's said as much. He didn't like the eastward creep of NATO (including 3 former Soviet republics and most of the Soviet bloc). As an old KGB guy, fear and respect kind of go hand in hand. He can't get the old band together for real, but he wants outsized influence in those outer states, including Ukraine. A deal with the EU threatened that.
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metirish Mar 20 2014 05:37 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
It will be interesting to see if his oligarch friends start to make noise with him after the sanctions bite .
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Ashie62 Mar 20 2014 06:17 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
The Ukraine would provide Russia with good soiled land for growing stuff....
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 21 2014 11:13 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I disagree. People need to be held accountable for what they say in a campaign. You, in effect, just gave them carte blanche to say anything to get elected and then not following through. If he stood at a podium and said, "Well, that was just campaign rhetoric," people would be -- and should be -- appalled.
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TransMonk Mar 21 2014 12:24 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I'm still waiting for what Romney's alternatives to avoiding this situation were. Edgy pointed out that McCain wouldn't have done what Obama did...but that doesn't really give me anything constructive towards agreeing that Romney (or McCain for that matter) was right about dealing with Putin.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 21 2014 12:45 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
And the missing plane will be forgotten as soon as Lindsay Lohan or Justin Bieber does something foolish.
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Lefty Specialist Mar 21 2014 04:14 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
The missing plane allows people to speculate wildly without the inconvenience of having any facts to contradict them. In other words, perfect for cable-TV news. On CNN they're going on about black holes and God's wrath, fer criminy.
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Nymr83 Mar 21 2014 04:55 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Yup.
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Edgy MD Mar 21 2014 07:47 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Well, to be fair, President Obama was mocking him because he was suggesting Governor Romney didn't appreciate the threat of al Quaeda, not China.
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Lefty Specialist Mar 22 2014 05:21 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
And Obama's incorrect, too. Al-Qaeda's a terroristic threat, not a geopolitical one, but at least we're into the 21st century.
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dgwphotography Mar 27 2014 08:27 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Leland Yee is a name that will probably ignored by the national media. Why? The California State Senator, a Democrat who has sponsored anti-gun legislation, has been indicted for...
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 27 2014 08:53 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Google news search shows 589 articles on Leland Yee. They can't all be non-lamestream.
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metirish Mar 27 2014 09:19 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
MSNBC is all over it
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Edgy MD Mar 27 2014 09:39 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
It's like it's Wayne LaPierre's birthday.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 27 2014 09:39 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Should we start a "Happy Birthday" thread?
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Frayed Knot Mar 27 2014 10:20 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I really enjoy it when politicians get arrested for stuff.
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Edgy MD Mar 27 2014 10:33 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
It's like it's Frayed Knot's birthday.
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dgwphotography Mar 27 2014 11:01 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I said National media - CNN - no stories ABC - no stories CBS - no stories NBC - no stories...
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 27 2014 11:09 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
CBS
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 27 2014 12:09 PM Re: Politics in 2014 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 27 2014 12:24 PM |
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Note that neither story reveals Sen. Yee's party affiliation. Coincidence? Inadvertent omission?
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Nymr83 Mar 27 2014 12:10 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
CNN will be the last to report on it and only after its hig enough that it looks suspicious not to. FOX probably has it in their top 5 stories. This is where a good amount of bias, at least in the big media, occurs... not outright lying but choosing what to report and how prominently to do so.
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sharpie Mar 27 2014 01:14 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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First line of the ABC story:
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 27 2014 01:30 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Note that [crossout]neither story[/crossout] only one of the stories reveals Sen. Yee's party affiliation. Coincidence? Inadvertent omission? Oops, I went right by that. No excuse for the other one not to list it. On edit, one of the comments in the story: Kevin McIntyre • 19 hours ago Again, no mention of party affiliation when the accused is a Democrat. Not surprised. I wonder if that detail was just added -- or this this reader missed it.
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Frayed Knot Mar 27 2014 01:53 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Maybe some of the writers felt that after you say 'elected official from San Francisco' then any mention of party affiliation is superfluous.
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metirish Mar 27 2014 03:07 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
MGIM , an observation if it's OK?
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 27 2014 04:47 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I think I'm pretty moderate. But maybe I should stay out of the politics threads. I hope I didn't appear in your face or anything. Wasn't my intent. Apologies. I did think it's incomplete for the story to not include party affiliation. It has been interesting to see journalism from this side after spending my entire career on the other.
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Edgy MD Mar 27 2014 05:07 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
You just keep on being YOU.
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Nymr83 Mar 27 2014 05:09 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Michigan, you are 'conservative' only by the standards of this board/new york city, and you are undoubtedly one of the least offensive posters in this thread, myself included.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 27 2014 05:14 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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That was, like, the best day ever! The real Batmobile. Second only to perhaps the Mets bullpen buggy with the caps as the coolest vehicle ever!
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 27 2014 05:19 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Cooler than swappin' your favorite Phils memories over 'cue with Luzinski?
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metirish Mar 27 2014 05:36 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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it was just an observation, I have noticed some not so happy with Obama post in FB etc. And that's fine man, be you, I'm pissed at the dude too.
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Frayed Knot Mar 27 2014 06:55 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I heard that the NY Post is covering this story extensively - but only as to how it relates to the Paltrow/Martin split.
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dgwphotography Mar 30 2014 12:23 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I guess CNN doesn't cover State Senators, except when they do...
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dgwphotography Mar 30 2014 12:27 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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That's OK. Here's another story from ABC. What's missing? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/californ ... d=23082339
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2014 05:52 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I found this article on fox news.com that only obliquely mentions that Larry Craig is a Republican. (It clearly, however, mentions the party affiliation of every Republican who criticizes him.)
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Nymr83 Mar 30 2014 06:29 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I think the easy explanation on Edwards is that at the time I don't believe he held any actual elected office. Sure, FOX could have chosen to mention he was a former DEMOCRATIC candidate for office or former DEMORATIC senator. Would this be consistent with FOX's reporting on out-of-office guys? i don't know. But ignoring a story entirely as CNN did is certainly far "worse" than not mentioning someone's party affiliation as ABC seems to have done.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2014 08:25 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I remember when a sitting politician was mentioned in an article, there would always be something like (R-Tenn.) or (D-Vt.) after his or her name. Is that no longer the standard?
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Edgy MD Mar 30 2014 09:04 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
That may not be in everybody's style sheet, but whatever their style, the point is taken that, if it is, you better be doing it consistently.
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Nymr83 Mar 31 2014 08:05 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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That was always the standard for sitting members of Congress at least, not sure if it was applied to everyone.
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Edgy MD Apr 11 2014 10:31 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Kathleen Sibelius (D–KS) stepping down as Health and Human Soivices Secretary.
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Edgy MD Apr 17 2014 08:53 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Did anybody beta-test this slogan? I see it on cars and it seems to have an unintentional meaning. Like the person has had to steel themselves before taking medicine.
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Mets – Willets Point Apr 17 2014 09:20 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
All those years of people advocating for small government has come to fruition as the the government is now effectively in the hands of small number of elites. Sorry President Lincoln, but government of the people, by the people, for the people has perished from the earth.
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Ashie62 Apr 17 2014 10:54 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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It does seem a bit busy...
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 17 2014 04:10 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Yeah, that slogan. It's like the "I guess..." is understood.
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TransMonk Apr 17 2014 05:26 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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This. Perfect!
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Ashie62 Apr 17 2014 05:58 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
7 months til mid-terms...
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d'Kong76 Apr 17 2014 06:42 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I'd be surprised if she's not the next prez.
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Vic Sage Apr 18 2014 08:38 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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WP, is this supposed to be "news"? I love looking at those charts and graphs, though... they so colorfully and vividly show the separation of the top 1% from the rest of the population, which seems to start around 1980. Gee, i wonder what happened in 1980? I wonder what political philosophy rose to dominance at that time? I wonder what the impact could have been of "deregulation"... i.e., the continuous erosion of governmental oversight and checks on the prerogatives of corporate interests by those who thought it was government that was the problem? Oh, THAT's the consequence. I see. well, i guess i'll keep voting for the "drown the government in the bathtub" types, because that'll surely stabilize our society and improve the quality of most people's lives. Assholes. We get exactly the kind of government we deserve. so many people seem to prefer to suck the corporate dick in order to hold onto the illusion that "hey, maybe one day, somebody below me will have to suck MY dick!", rather than organize themselves in opposition, to create a system where people don't have to suck anybody's dick, unless they're into that sort of thing. But no. Instead, for the last 35 years, we've chosen just to take our turn in the barrel.
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metsmarathon Apr 18 2014 09:00 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
but government is sometimes inefficient or cumbersome or ineffective or poorly implemented or corrupt.
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Edgy MD Apr 18 2014 09:10 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Those charts are demonstrating something different from the study, though. The study doesn't start until 1981.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 18 2014 10:33 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I think the stars were aligned for her in 2008. The fact that she got pushed aside by a relative unknown with zero accomplishments is very revealing. I'm not saying she's not the prohibitive favorite for the nomination. She's raised a ton of money and has a national network. But she's got all of the Clinton family baggage and few of her husband's gifts. She's always had high unfavorables. There's a nagging part of me that thinks she ends up not running -- deciding late and sending the Dems scrambling. Their worst-case scenario would be Biden, who also has been building a national network and is clearly running, stepping into a void.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2014 05:17 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I suspect that if Hillary does create that void, someone younger and more dynamic than Joe Biden (whose time has passed) will step in. I have to say, though, that I have no idea who that would be.
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Edgy MD Apr 19 2014 07:43 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Well, two New Yorkers are on that short list: Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) and Senator Kristen Gillebrand (D-NY).
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Mets – Willets Point Apr 19 2014 10:44 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
The Democrats nominating Clinton for President is akin to ceding the 2016 election to whatever corporatist/Tea Party candidate the GOP wants to nominate. There is no way someone so universally hated by the right wing, as well as by many independents and true liberal/progressives (yeah, there's still a few of us left) can win a national election.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 19 2014 09:51 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I disagree with branding Republicans dismissively as "corporatist/tea party" people.
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Mets – Willets Point Apr 19 2014 10:58 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Yes, at least one half of the country despises Clinton because they consider her (unjustifiably) uber-liberal bordering on socialist and the major news media will beat that drum all through the campaign. Another larger portion of the country hate Clinton because (justifiably) her record leans to excessive pragmatism and plain outright support of corporatist/militarist actions completely in opposition to liberal and progressive politics. Thus, I use the hyperbole that the Republicans could run a candidate even from their most extreme fringe and still win because so much of the populace is united in their hate of Clinton. But the Democratic core love her to bits, so they'll probably nominate her.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2014 09:33 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Relax, bud. Really, it's only to differentiate them from the corporatist/nominally-liberal knee-jerkers on the other side.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 20 2014 11:29 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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How would you define "corporatist?"
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2014 02:05 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Bankrolled to a significant degree by, and largely favorable to/pursuant of the interests of large corporations and corporate associations.
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Mets Guy in Michigan May 24 2014 12:58 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Edgy MD May 24 2014 02:04 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Like.
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Edgy MD May 30 2014 10:35 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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What a horrible way to go out. He did the right thing but man.
I get that. At the same time, I-was-naive can only get you so far.
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Frayed Knot May 30 2014 02:08 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
And press spokesman Jay Carney follows Shinseki out the door
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Edgy MD May 30 2014 02:14 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
WoW!
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Benjamin Grimm May 30 2014 02:30 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I think heads will continue to roll until someone explains the connection between Zooey Deschanel and Jenrry Mejia.
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Ceetar May 30 2014 03:13 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Zooey's nephew is named Henry. Maybe?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 30 2014 04:35 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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She's swooning. She's very swoony. And some of the Mets' number are having very swoonworthy seasons.
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Ashie62 Jun 11 2014 07:12 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Eric Cantor don't let the door hit you in the a--
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Edgy MD Jun 11 2014 07:38 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
First sitting majority leader to lose in a primary in ever.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 11 2014 11:54 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I'm no expert... [spits into spittoon]... but I'm-a reckon that replacing Eric Cantor with a fella from 'at there Tea Party ain't gonna get'cha any less shutdowns, am I right?
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d'Kong76 Jun 11 2014 11:56 AM Re: Politics in 2014 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 11 2014 12:21 PM |
Who knows, but I do know they should lose the moniker.
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Edgy MD Jun 11 2014 12:06 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Well, I'm going to work with the assumption that Brat ain't going to assume Cantor's chair as the majority leader. I'm not particularly confident in him even winning the general election..
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 11 2014 12:47 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I hear it's a heavily Republican district, so he probably has a decent chance of winning. Fun fact: his Democratic opponent is also a professor at the same university.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 11 2014 01:16 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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He's a Michigan guy!
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 11 2014 02:16 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Oh! Well, in that case, he'll have immediate juice!
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MFS62 Jun 12 2014 07:20 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Like that tobacco juice that was just aimed at the spittoon? Later
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Frayed Knot Jun 12 2014 10:32 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
My only problem with an entrenched incumbent being defeated in a primary by an upstart unknown is that there aren't several dozen more of these happening all over the country.
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d'Kong76 Jun 14 2014 09:42 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
If I were Dictator or King of the United States, I would
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 17 2014 07:54 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Seems like she's struggling to pull off a simple book tour. Maybe we should let the process play out.
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Ceetar Jun 17 2014 07:59 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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well, the "process" anyway.
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Ashie62 Jun 17 2014 07:02 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Presidential non incumbent front runners have a way of crapping out sometime within the two years before the process...
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 18 2014 07:31 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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I thought this was an interesting article -- five reasons why she won't run. [url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/06/17/5_reasons_hillary_wont_run_123015.html
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TransMonk Jun 18 2014 07:41 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I don't agree with her on several issues...but it would be really hard to convince me that there is another American more qualified to be President.
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Edgy MD Jun 18 2014 08:11 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I'm of the mind that thousands and thousands of people we'll never know about are generally more qualified to be president than the candidates we do know about.
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TransMonk Jun 18 2014 08:32 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Do you mean generally as far as elections go or generally as in the amount of qualification? 8 years as a first lady, 8 years as a Senator and 4 years as Secretary of State is a pretty unique resume.
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Edgy MD Jun 18 2014 08:40 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
I mean insofar as wisdom, insight, sober judgment, creativity, community-spiritedness, compassion, leadership, studiousness, courage, honesty, independence, and diplomacy can be considered qualifications.
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metsmarathon Jun 18 2014 08:43 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
i think that if, instead of elections, we posted the offices of president, governor, mayor, etc, on monster.com, or northjerseyhelpwanted,com, or wherever, and we were on the hiring committee to fill those positions, we would end up with a far better set of candidates to pore over than those who typically run for office, is i think the point.
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metsmarathon Jun 18 2014 08:44 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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wait, you want all that instead of "has done politics before"? what kind of madman are you?
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Frayed Knot Jun 18 2014 08:46 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Presidential resumes are a fungible type of thing.
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Edgy MD Jun 18 2014 08:47 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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The kind who didn't even think to include "integrity."
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metsmarathon Jun 18 2014 08:49 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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see, you're just part of the problem...
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Edgy MD Jun 19 2014 02:13 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-California) becomes the new House Majority Leader. Steve Scalise (R-LA) takes the whip chair.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 02 2014 12:42 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
"Screw you guys... I'm going home."
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Ashie62 Aug 03 2014 07:55 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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Benghazi dude
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TransMonk Aug 04 2014 07:52 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
*facepalm*
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 04 2014 09:53 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
MORE LIKE "FACEHOOF" YOU 'SCONNIE SHEEPLE!!!11!1!
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Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 09:21 AM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Hey, man, Eric Holder is stepping down.
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Edgy MD Dec 30 2014 03:44 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
Rep. Grimm looks to be reversing his vows not to resign, ending what has to be one of the more drama-concentrated four-year tenures.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 30 2014 05:33 PM Re: Politics in 2014 |
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And potentially costing his constituents millions of dollars in special-election costs. Christ, if he needed to prove something and nab a quick ego boost, couldn't he have picked a barfight with a smaller reporter or something?
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