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G-Fafif
Feb 12 2014 12:05 PM

Jeter announces 2014 will be it for the Jeterest player who ever lived.

G-Fafif
Feb 12 2014 12:06 PM
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His papal-style statement here.

G-Fafif
Feb 12 2014 12:09 PM
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Whereas J. Wilpon gave Rivera the pitching rubber from his 500th save, I assume the official Mets gift to Jeter will be our guts he ripped out on repeated occasions.

Ceetar
Feb 12 2014 12:09 PM
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He's given so much over the years, all that he asks for 2014 is that he get what he's given....Herpes.

seawolf17
Feb 12 2014 12:14 PM
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They're going to fucking "honor" him in May, and I'm going to be sick to my stomach. EFF THAT GUY, METS.

Frayed Knot
Feb 12 2014 12:25 PM
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Let the retirement tours, the written odes, and the calls for the repeal of the five-year HoF waiting list begin.

smg58
Feb 12 2014 12:25 PM
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So last year was a big lovefest for Rivera, and this year will be an even bigger lovefest for Jeter. Whatever. I tune out the people who fawn over them anyway. And to be fair, both had great careers.

d'Kong76
Feb 12 2014 12:27 PM
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Feel bad for Stevie Jeets, news gets announced on his birthday.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2014 12:29 PM
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I realized that some of things that always came easily to me and were always fun had stared to become a struggele. The one thing I always said to myself was that when baseball started to feel more like a job, it would be time to move forward.

--- Derek Jeter


So I guess we can officially put Tom Verducci's ridiculous "Sportsman of the Year" writeup in the bullshit file.

The first time Jeter found himself one win away from his fifth world championship was on Nov. 3, 2001, in Game 6 of the World Series against the Arizona Diamondbacks. The night went horribly wrong for the Yankees, to the point that manager Joe Torre, with his team losing 15--0, pulled Jeter, catcher Jorge Posada and first baseman Tino Martinez from the game in the fifth inning as an act of surrender. Jeter walked into the clubhouse to change out of his spikes and into a pair of more comfortable turf shoes. In the training room he saw Jay Witasick, a journeyman reliever for the Yankees who in 1 1/3 innings had given up nine runs, eight of them earned, a Series record for a reliever. As Jeter walked by, he heard Witasick say, "Well, at least I had fun."

"Derek just jumped all over him," Posada says. "Derek couldn't believe what he was saying. He was really, really hot. That was the angriest I've ever seen him."

Last week, sitting in an airport hangar in Long Beach, Calif., surrounded by a small army of people to shoot a commercial for Gillette, Jeter nodded when he was asked about the episode with Witasick. "I remember," Jeter said. Slowly, he began to get agitated again. "Fun? I can't relate to it. I really can't relate to it. I'll never forget that. At least you had fun? I'll never understand it. I don't want to understand it."

G-Fafif
Feb 12 2014 12:30 PM
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He wore 2, an accident of Pinstripe history. In reality, he was always 1. 1 in our hearts. 1 above all others on the field. The 1 to whom we all looked for guidance, inspiration and superlative-defying performance in life's clutch. And as the 1, he delivered time and time again. The only opponent he didn't choose to conquer was time itself, preferring instead to leave the universe in balance.

The universe, on the other hand, weeps for the 1 who gave it its purpose. The universe hosted Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter defined the universe.

Come season's end, the universe loses its sense of purpose. And so do the rest of us.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 12 2014 12:32 PM
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ouch. The Puma pounces.
Mike Puma ?@NYPost_Mets 2m
Meanwhile, the other shortstop in town, Ruben Tejada, just announced that 2012 was his final season.


Another MFY legend to ruin another season. Great.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2014 12:39 PM
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Ceetar
Feb 12 2014 12:43 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Last week, sitting in an airport hangar in Long Beach, Calif., surrounded by a small army of people to shoot a commercial for Gillette, Jeter nodded when he was asked about the episode with Witasick. "I remember," Jeter said. Slowly, he began to get agitated again. "Fun? I can't relate to it. I really can't relate to it. I'll never forget that. At least you had fun? I'll never understand it. I don't want to understand it."


"Doesn't he know it's about money? Greenbacks. Moola. The WS shares for winners is bigger. the endorsement deals. You know these guys," Jeter says, nodding to Gillette, "Wouldn't be here if I was a loser. I'm going to build another fuckpad in my house with this paycheck."

metirish
Feb 12 2014 01:00 PM
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Thank fucking whoever that I don't watch AL baseball and I don't buy the NY rags anymore....hoping to avoid the tour......

d'Kong76
Feb 12 2014 01:06 PM
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Somewhere there is a bright-eyed Yankee blogger scheming to
start a campaign to change the five-year-HOF-wait rule so that
Captain Unanimous can be voted in in 2015.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2014 01:07 PM
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I might support that rule. No way he breaks Seaver's percentage record under such circumstances.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 12 2014 01:08 PM
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Getting out before he tests positive!

Frayed Knot
Feb 12 2014 01:11 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
He wore 2, an accident of Pinstripe history. In reality, he was always 1. 1 in our hearts. 1 above all others on the field. The 1 to whom we all looked for guidance, inspiration and superlative-defying performance in life's clutch. And as the 1, he delivered time and time again. The only opponent he didn't choose to conquer was time itself, preferring instead to leave the universe in balance.

The universe, on the other hand, weeps for the 1 who gave it its purpose. The universe hosted Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter defined the universe.

Come season's end, the universe loses its sense of purpose. And so do the rest of us.



Please tell me that this is sarcasm, the Onion, National Lampoon come back to life, ANYTHING! ... because I don't want to live in a world where someone who gets paid to write for a living writes something like that for real.



And, let's face it, we all the reason behind the timing for all this: Jeter figured out a way where he never has to set foot on a field with Alex Rodriguez again.

Frayed Knot
Feb 12 2014 01:14 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
Somewhere there is a bright-eyed Yankee blogger scheming to
start a campaign to change the five-year-HOF-wait rule so that
Captain Unanimous can be voted in in 2015.


Beat ya to this one too (see 2:25 PM)

d'Kong76
Feb 12 2014 01:24 PM
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D'OH!!

seawolf17
Feb 12 2014 01:50 PM
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GAH I HATE THIS WHOLE THING. I'm going to have to turn off the internet.

Lefty Specialist
Feb 12 2014 02:13 PM
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So is it okay to root for a season-ending injury in game 2 of the season?

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2014 02:34 PM
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You know, if your specialty is intangibles, do you ever really retire?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 12 2014 03:01 PM
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Exactly.

Wherever there's a veteran beatin' up a last-man-in-the-bullpen for a tongue-in-cheek comment, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys burn when they pee. I'll be in the way kids say "no comment" when their parents ask them questions and deserve an answer but they know the answers will get 'em in hot water, and when the people are eatin' the bullshit and cedin' the parkland for parkin' lots and payin' for the privilege, I'll be there, too.

Zvon
Feb 12 2014 03:11 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I might support that rule. No way he breaks Seaver's percentage record under such circumstances.


This is my only concern. Does he beat Toms record? If he does that'll bug me.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 12 2014 03:13 PM
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He should get gift baskets from every team on his farewell tour.

Lefty Specialist
Feb 12 2014 07:09 PM
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This farewell tour will make the Mariano sideshow look like an afterthought. Jeter may pull a gluteal muscle from all the ass-kissing that'll be going on.

Fman99
Feb 12 2014 07:37 PM
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I read this and vomited as I fell backwards deep into the SS/3B hole and flung vomit out towards the living room from my back foot.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2014 07:45 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Exactly.

Wherever there's a veteran beatin' up a last-man-in-the-bullpen for a tongue-in-cheek comment, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys burn when they pee. I'll be in the way kids say "no comment" when their parents ask them questions and deserve an answer but they know the answers will get 'em in hot water, and when the people are eatin' the bullshit and cedin' the parkland for parkin' lots and payin' for the privilege, I'll be there, too.

Dammit! Where's the damn LIKE button?!

Frayed Knot
Feb 12 2014 09:12 PM
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btw, Jeter's closest career comp? Craig Biggio
Somehow, however, I don't think Derek is going to have to sweat the first two, three really and who knows how many more, H-o-F votes.




Jeter currently sits 10th in all time hits, only 3 behind Paul Molitor for 9th. With 100+ this season he'll pass not only Molitor but also Yastrzemski, Wagner & Anson for 6th. Needs 199 to break into the top 5
Of course it wasn't long ago when some YLDBs were simply doing the 200 per/yr math and projecting him for 4,000 and possibly for passing both Cobb & Rose. Problem with that math is, as Shaq once said to a reporter wondering about why he wasn't playing the way he once did: "38 ain't 28 dude"
With a good season in 2014 (and a REALLY good one for age 40) he'll get to where he's only 500 short of 4,000 and about 750 short of catching Rose.

MFS62
Feb 12 2014 09:40 PM
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I'd love the see the expression on the faces of Yankee fans if they find out that one of the gifts he gets will be a basket containing an autographed picture from Michael Sam.

Later

d'Kong76
Feb 13 2014 08:44 AM
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I've gotten like five emails about this, I guess they think the
internet nearly exploding yesterday wasn't enough to get the
word out or something.

MFS62
Feb 13 2014 08:46 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
I've gotten like five emails about this, I guess they think the
internet nearly exploding yesterday wasn't enough to get the
word out or something.

You know that many MFY fans?
And you allow them to know your email addy?

Later

d'Kong76
Feb 13 2014 08:46 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
one of the gifts he gets will be a basket containing an autographed picture from Michael Sam.


I'll take twenty of those! Then sell 'em on eGay ...

Later

TheOldMole
Feb 13 2014 09:03 AM
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What's the worst thing we can wish on Jeter? A .143 season batting average? A groin pull on the first day of the season that turns gangrenous? Paternity suits in every city he visits?

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 13 2014 09:30 AM
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A repeat of 2013 for him would suit me.

MFS62
Feb 13 2014 10:42 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
one of the gifts he gets will be a basket containing an autographed picture from Michael Sam.


I'll take twenty of those! Then sell 'em on eGay ...

Later

Sorry. Like Jeter, you have to earn them.

Later

bmfc1
Feb 13 2014 12:27 PM
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By October, Wallace Matthew will dehydrate because of his constant flow of tears.

dinosaur jesus
Feb 13 2014 01:51 PM
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TheOldMole wrote:
What's the worst thing we can wish on Jeter? A .143 season batting average? A groin pull on the first day of the season that turns gangrenous? Paternity suits in every city he visits?


Only this. That on the last day of the season, when he takes the field alone in the top of the first while his teammates wait in the dugout, their hands over their hearts, and a roar of applause rises above the stadium, and the leaders of the nations of the world, come to pay tribute, wave their colorful home-made banners, saying "WE LOVE YOU DEREK!" in every script known to man, and the press box flows with writers' tears, and the ghosts of the great ballplayers of the past gather in a pale ring around the infield, bringing an even deeper chill to the October night--that Derek, in the midst of all this, feels suddenly an immense hollowness within, a crushing realization that he is not the man they're cheering for, that he is only a blank screen on which humanity projects its dreams, and that the show is almost over. After the game, he has nothing to say to the cameras, nothing to say to anyone. There's nothing left to say. Only a weak smile as he presses through the throng, a last wave as he climbs into his limousine, and he's gone into the darkness. Exuding quiet class to the end, say the stories the next day. Will we ever see his like again?

That, or he hits into five double plays on the day the Yankees miss the playoffs.

Frayed Knot
Feb 13 2014 02:36 PM
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btw, the Yanx final scheduled game/series for this year? ... Fenway Park

Edgy MD
Feb 13 2014 02:44 PM
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Confused Yankee Fan on Facebook wrote:
As a Yankees fan you can never replace Jeter but THANK GOD he's retiring!


Or "I love him, but pretending he's better than he is has just been EXHAUSTING!"

seawolf17
Feb 13 2014 03:06 PM
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Been arguing with all my Yankee fan friends who are trying to say he's a Top 5 All Time Shortstop all day.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 13 2014 03:12 PM
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TheOldMole wrote:
What's the worst thing we can wish on Jeter? A .143 season batting average? A groin pull on the first day of the season that turns gangrenous? Paternity suits in every city he visits?


Smoking gun revelations that he was juicing all along.

TheOldMole
Feb 13 2014 03:41 PM
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There's no point arguing with Yankee fans. Just shoot them.

seawolf17
Feb 13 2014 03:53 PM
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There's no point arguing with Yankee fans. Just shoot them.

Highlight:

Me: JAWS puts him 12th among SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_SS.shtml), which I think is reasonable.
Friend: Some of the guys ahead of him played more than half their careers at other positions. Banks, Yount, Ripken, A-Rod. The list needs some fine tuning.
Me: Only Ernie Banks on that list played "more than half" of his career at another position, and even then, just barely (120 more games). Yount played 300 more at SS than OF, Ripken only played 3B at the end of his career (and moved because the O's got someone who played the position better). ARod started playing third because the Yankees got someone who played the position better but Cap'n Intangibles, Mr. "Class," couldn't be bothered to make his team better by keeping the better player in his natural position. So let's not get too crazy there.
Friend: My mistake on Ripken and Yount (so Yount played almost half his career in the OF), but their time at other positions was significant enough that they accumulated the necessary stats they wouldn't have otherwise had to make the HOF. I also love how you hold A-Rod above Jeter when it suits your arguments. Ask anyone who they would rather have hitting in a clutch situation (regular season or postseason), regardless of fan affiliation.
Me: OH COME ON. "When it suits my cause?" Career OPS with RISP (ARod .929, Jeter .816), career OPS with 2 outs, RISP (ARod .862, Jeter .833), career OPS "late and close" (ARod .896, .792), career OPS in the ninth inning (ARod .836, Jeter .673).
Friend: Break out the postseason too, please.
Me: Postseason: ARod .263/.369/.464, Jeter .308/.374/.465. So they're THE SAME, except Jeter had a few hits where ARod had walks. And Arod had 41 RBI in 326 PA to Jete's 61 in 734 PA, so he's got a higher RBI/PA ratio too in the postseason. All of Jeter's "value" is in "intangibles," which are only a thing because he had great talent around him his whole career. Players with a career OPS+ of 117: Derek Jeter, Jesse Barfield, Carlton Fisk, Steve Garvey, George Hendrick, Matt Stairs, Lou Whitaker. And you know what? That sounds about right too.
Friend: They're the same in OBP & OPS. It's not a contest when it comes to BA. Jeter has 128 more hits in slightly more than twice the games A-Rod has played, which shows he has been able to maintain that high level across more pressure situations. .308 over .263 is not due to a few more hits.
Me: Actually, mathematically, that's exactly what it is. Did you forget how to calculate batting average?

Oi.

Ceetar
Feb 13 2014 03:55 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
TheOldMole wrote:
What's the worst thing we can wish on Jeter? A .143 season batting average? A groin pull on the first day of the season that turns gangrenous? Paternity suits in every city he visits?


Smoking gun revelations that he was juicing all along.



I think "strong evidence" is better than a smoking gun. Enough that there is little doubt, but just enough that he denies it and throws hissy fits whenever it's mentioned.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 13 2014 07:06 PM
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No, I want the whole shebang: receipts, photographs, blood tests results from the 1990s, multiple witnesses, signed affidavits.

Nymr83
Feb 13 2014 10:30 PM
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I'd like the Mets to win the World Series. Short of that, I can't think of anything baseball-related that would give me greater enjoyment than undeniable proof than Jeter Juiced.

bmfc1
Feb 14 2014 06:53 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
Somewhere there is a bright-eyed Yankee blogger scheming to
start a campaign to change the five-year-HOF-wait rule so that
Captain Unanimous can be voted in in 2015.

Not a blogger, but a columnist from the Poughkeepsie Journal!
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/arti ... ck_check=1

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 07:01 AM
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I'm more offended by the "stumbling Willie Mays" comment.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 14 2014 07:03 AM
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That fool in Poughkeepsie wants them to bend the rules so that Jeter and Rivera can go into the Hall together. "It's the right thing to do," he says.

If a joint induction is so important, then the simple solution, which doesn't involve "bending" any rules, is to not vote for Mariano in his first year of eligibility.

There! Problem solved!

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 07:05 AM
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Even the title doesn't make any logical sense.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 14 2014 07:06 AM
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Best part:

This is a plea to the Baseball Writers’ Association of America to bend the rules. It’s been done before, so do it again.

Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera deserve to be inducted together into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 2019.

It’s the right thing to do. Jeter and Rivera came up through the New York Yankees organization together, won five World Series titles together with class on and off the field, and belong together on the stage in Cooperstown delivering their induction speeches on the same July day in 2019.

Yes, this will require bending the rules because a player must be out of the game for five years before being on the Hall of Fame ballot. Jeter and Rivera are deservedly both first-ballot Hall of Famers, but are slated to enter the hall one year apart if chosen on their respective first ballot.

So why not bend the rules? It’s been done before and for Yankee greats. Lou Gehrig — the only player on a special ballot — was elected in a special vote at the 1939 Winter Meetings because it was uncertain how much longer Gehrig would live with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis — now also known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease.


Yes, we are asking the change the rules not because Jeter has a terminal illness, but so he can go in with a teammate, which would make for a nice ceremony.

MFS62
Feb 14 2014 07:14 AM
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Speaking of special circumstances.
Did Clemente have to wait five years? If not - there IS another way.

Later

Frayed Knot
Feb 14 2014 07:23 AM
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No, they waived the five year rule for Clemente too.
The special election for Gehrig was to get him in before he died but there was no five-year rule at the time!

Nymr83
Feb 14 2014 07:55 AM
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Maybe we should induct Smoltz and Jones this summer with Maddux Glavine and Cox too?

Im already sick of this. Its going to be a long year.

Frayed Knot
Feb 14 2014 07:58 AM
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Why even wait for Jeter to retire? Just hold a special election this weekend so we can get them both in by August.

metirish
Feb 14 2014 08:02 AM
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Mother of God, can we just name the HOF after Jeter , and change JKF airport to DJ2 international.....these fucking twats make me sick.....

Centerfield
Feb 14 2014 08:03 AM
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I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.

metirish
Feb 14 2014 08:04 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.



LOL....yipee ....

MFS62
Feb 14 2014 08:06 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.

Depends when during the year.
But, as they used to say in my old neighborhood, it can be arranged.

Later

Ceetar
Feb 14 2014 08:08 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.


oh god no. Besides not wishing ill on people, can you imagine the ridiculous coverage? the Yankees would try to impose a 2 minute long moment of silence for every game and demand that #2 be cut into the outfield grass for every national game, including the playoffs.

TheOldMole
Feb 14 2014 08:11 AM
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I don't want Jeter to die, I just want his reputation to be irrevocably tarnished.

I always admired Mo. I'd like his HOF ceremony not to be overshadowed by that twerp.

metirish
Feb 14 2014 08:12 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.


oh god no. Besides not wishing ill on people, can you imagine the ridiculous coverage? the Yankees would try to impose a 2 minute long moment of silence for every game and demand that #2 be cut into the outfield grass for every national game, including the playoffs.



Yes , there is that, they would fly his body around the country like they did with Reagan, it would be insufferable....NBC would draft in Brokaw give us context....

dinosaur jesus
Feb 14 2014 08:17 AM
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metirish wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.


oh god no. Besides not wishing ill on people, can you imagine the ridiculous coverage? the Yankees would try to impose a 2 minute long moment of silence for every game and demand that #2 be cut into the outfield grass for every national game, including the playoffs.



Yes , there is that, they would fly his body around the country like they did with Reagan, it would be insufferable....NBC would draft in Brokaw give us context....


And they'd put him in a glass coffin in a special room in Yankee Stadium. And bring him out, with strings attached, for holiday specials, where he'd reenact his trademark leap through the magic of puppetry.

At least if they inducted the two of them together, it would get a lot of gushing over with at once.

Lefty Specialist
Feb 14 2014 08:54 AM
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Wonder how many Yankee fans have already made hotel reservations for the Cooperstown area for 5 years from now?

SteveJRogers
Feb 14 2014 09:02 AM
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Best part:

This is a plea to the Baseball Writers’ Association of America to bend the rules. It’s been done before, so do it again.

Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera deserve to be inducted together into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 2019.

It’s the right thing to do. Jeter and Rivera came up through the New York Yankees organization together, won five World Series titles together with class on and off the field, and belong together on the stage in Cooperstown delivering their induction speeches on the same July day in 2019.

Yes, this will require bending the rules because a player must be out of the game for five years before being on the Hall of Fame ballot. Jeter and Rivera are deservedly both first-ballot Hall of Famers, but are slated to enter the hall one year apart if chosen on their respective first ballot.

So why not bend the rules? It’s been done before and for Yankee greats. Lou Gehrig — the only player on a special ballot — was elected in a special vote at the 1939 Winter Meetings because it was uncertain how much longer Gehrig would live with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis — now also known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease.


Yes, we are asking the change the rules not because Jeter has a terminal illness, but so he can go in with a teammate, which would make for a nice ceremony.


Ironically due to WWII travel restrictions, Gehrig never did have a formal induction until this past year!

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 09:03 AM
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Nymr83 wrote:
Maybe we should induct Smoltz and Jones this summer with Maddux Glavine and Cox too?

Im already sick of this. Its going to be a long year.

It's going to be a great year.

They'll spin it every way they want to, but unless he gets his hands on a barrel of steroids and somehow doesn't fail a test, the season is going to be disaster for Jeter. They'll end up replacing him with a going-nowhere journeyman, and pretend he's injured and that he's dying to get out there, but he's doing what's best for the team, but the reality will be that he's wasting their money and hurting the team.

At the end of the year, like with Willie Randolph, they'll send him out there for two teary innings, and we'll be asked to think on what might of been, and that somehow Jeter made it perfect anyway, that he really worked his ass of to be here, and played in pain.

But we'll all know the truth, that it could never have been otherwise, that he was mailing it in, and he was an millstone to his team even for those two innings.

d'Kong76
Feb 14 2014 09:06 AM
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I read in the Otsego County Enquirer that a motion will
be made at next county meeting to change the name of
Cooperstown to Derekstown. How cool would that be??

Vic Sage
Feb 14 2014 09:15 AM
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Centerfield wrote:
I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.


maybe he can take a swim in Mariano's electrified pool! I'd be ok with Jeter going in with Mariano then, with Rivera at the podium, sobbing, wracked with guilt, and finally needing to be put down with a trank dart and carried off the stage. Now THAT'S a HOF ceremony i'd pay to see.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 14 2014 09:22 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Why even wait for Jeter to retire? Just hold a special election this weekend so we can get them both in by August.


In the waning moments of his final game, a pinstriped helicopter should set down near second base. The door would open and Reggie, Joe Torre and other living Yankees in the Hall could emerge, roll out a red carpet to the shortstop position. Derek would make a final toss to first base -- hop-skip, followed by three bounces -- then be taken by the hand to the chopper. Together, they would blow kisses to the weeping press box and ascend into the heavens, touching down in Cooperstown where an induction audience would already be assembled and plaque prepared. Actually, there is not one plaque, but two. He's Derek Jeter, and you can't list all those accomplishments on one. Everyone already enshrined in the Hall would get just a little bit better with Derek among them.

The Yankees, meanwhile, announce that they've retired the position of shortstop to relieve other players of the burden of replacing Derek Jeter. (And it's not like anything hit to short during the last couple seasons was an out anyway.)

seawolf17
Feb 14 2014 09:33 AM
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I love that every few weeks, we get a new "my favorite thread of all time." This place is the dog's bollocks.

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 10:24 AM
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I had the wrong article. I clicked the link and it took me to the front page. I searched for Jeter, and it sent me to this squishy piece.

Commentary: Derek Jeter does it his way, the right way
Feb. 13, 2014

Now, see, you lose me before you're done with the title. It happens whenever somebody is described as playing the game "the right way." This allegedly objective standard is never described beforehand, and then it's demonstrated how the paragon reaches it. It's his way first, the right way second. It's the right way because it's his way. What is this? The mafia?

Written by
Bob Nightengale
USA Today

I like the "written by." Classy. This isn't one of them "as told by" columns.

TAMPA — Derek Jeter could have walked away whenever he wanted from the Yankees.

Or perhaps, when they got wise and stopped wasting their money on him. Like they almost did (and in retrospect, should have done) last contract. Remember all the photographs of Jetes in other uniforms, Bob? They threw Bernie Williams over the side and they would have thrown Jeter over.

It was his choice.

Yes, he's not a slave. But the reality that nobody is going to pay him very long to throw up a .542 OPS and field like a statue must've fed into a little, huh?

(By the way, how does this guy get away with the one-sentence paragraph thingie?)

If he wanted to look like a stumbling Willie Mays at the end of his career, a hobbled Mickey Mantle or an old Satchel Paige, Jeter earned the privilege to inform the Yankees when he was retiring.

OK, let's look at the last few seasons of Mays, Mantle and Jeter in terms of WAR:

MaysMantleJeter
5.21.81.8
6.33.50.9
1.83.92.2
0.02.6-0.7
RetiredRetiredActive!

Which one of these guys held on for too long? Which one used his stature to keep collecting big paydays and adulation while he was hurting the team?

Your insult to Satchell Paige, who waited a lifetime to play big league ball, I won't even get into. But he was a three-war player, pitching out of the bullpen, at the end of his career!

The Yankees sensed it was coming at some point this season, but not Wednesday, not a week before their first spring training workout.

Earthworms knew it was coming. The day of the week is irrelevant. Lots of allegedly HOF-bound dudes announce their retirements in spring training. Rivera did. Guarantees the entire season focuses on you. But it's Wednesday. Oooh... way to get another one-sentence paragraph out of nothing, there.

“We’ve got to respect his decision,” Yankees President Randy Levine said.

...which we've been praying for.

If the Yankees had their druthers, Jeter would have announced his decision in front of the world in New York.

If the Yankees had their druthers, Jeter would have cashed his chips in two years ago.

Certainly, he could have saved the announcement at his annual spring training news conference in Tampa.

First of all, who edited that paragraph/sentence? He could have made the announcement at. He could have saved the announcement for.

Second of all, he has an annual spring training news conference of his own? How sad? What does he have to announce? "Hi, I'm back. I'm going to try real hard, and HEY! here are some words that rhyme with Jeter!"

Instead, he revealed his intentions in typical Jeter style.

He called a second press conference? He gave you a gift basket?

He telephoned Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner in the morning and announced it on his Facebook page Wednesday in the middle of the afternoon after his teammates had gone home from their early spring training workout.

This is typical of him, how? Did he pump his fist afterwards?

“So really it was months ago when I realized that this season would likely be my last,” Jeter wrote. “As I came to this conclusion and shared it with my friends and family, they all told me to hold off saying anything until I was absolutely 100% sure.

Note that Nightie's only two-sentence paragraph so far has been an excerpt.

“And the thing is, I could not be more sure.”

Duh.

He became absolutely certain before he even stepped onto the spring training field.

This distinguishes him from nobody ever.

“He’s been such a great Yankee, a great person, a great icon,” Levine said. “We’ve been so fortunate to watch him play and be a champion. We didn’t know what was going to happen.

Another two-sentence paragraph. Another excerpt.

“But nobody knows his body better than him, and, at the end of the day, he wants to go out on top.

On top of what? On top of whom? On top of the fawning fawns who don't want to say what's obvious? That he's got nothing left and he's leading his team toward fourth place?

“He wants to go out like Michael Jordan.”

Michael Jordan retired three times! This is nothing like that!

I don't have the basketball equivalent of WAR at my disposal, but I feel comfortable in saying that Jordan at these three junctures of his career was four times, three times, and ultimately twice the player Jeter is right now.

Unless we're talking about Michael Jordan the baseball player. Then maybe.

Jeter could have waited to see how his body responded. He’s coming off the worst year of his career. He played in 17 games because of a broken ankle and thigh injury, trying to recover from his broken ankle suffered during the 2012 playoffs.

Wow, you're really thinking hard about how to turn this into a positive, because there's a couple of sentences in that paragraph.

How about this? He already knows how his body is responding, and he knows things aren't going to get any prettier.

Now, he either believes that he’ll never be the Derek Jeter of old or fears the ankle will hinder him all season.

Like any human being. So how is this somehow a demonstration of the height of human grace?

It doesn’t really matter.

Of course it doesn't.

The end is here.

And thus, I've already taken the hemlock.

Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte and now Jeter.

You forgot Steinbrenner.

Yes, it’s like Paul McCartney just sang his last song.


Don't you ever do that again EVER!

The Fab Four is over.

YOU DID IT AGAIN!



The Yankees’ final regular-season game, by happenstance, will be Sept. 28 at Fenway Park.

Or, by schedulestance. I love the unspoken acceptance that the Yankees are highly unlikely to play in October.

Oh, yes, and Jeter and Alex Rodriguez have played their last game together, too.

It's like... Denny Laine and Paul McCartney!

Jeter will be honored throughout baseball just like Rivera was last year, only the pomp and circumstances will be greater. There will be sellout crowds on the road for one last glimpse. There will be tributes. Lavish gifts. Trips. And everything possible to make sure Jeter is forever remembered.

Who?

He won’t be remembered as the greatest shortstop to play the game.

I should hope not.

But he will be remembered as perhaps the classiest superstar to play this game.

Class, like the right way, has no meaning until we retrofit a meaning based on what we can glean from Jeter.

“In the 21-plus years in which I have served as commissioner, Major League Baseball has had no finer ambassador than Derek Jeter,” Bud Selig said in a statement.

Ripken was a bum. Tony Gwynn was a tool.

“Since his championship rookie season of 1996...

Fake homerun.

...Derek has represented all the best of the national pastime on and off the field. He is one of the most accomplished and memorable players of his, or any, era.

The shining paragon of Michael Corleone in a family full of Sonnies.

“Derek is the kind of person that generations have emulated proudly, and he remains an exemplary face of our sport.”

Generations of the gullible.

We’re talking about one of the game’s greatest players who helped revive baseball’s most iconic franchise, winning five World Series championships, and doing it with class.

Class. Always class.

Never once did Jeter embarrass the game, the Yankees or himself.

The Yankees can not BE embarrassed. This should be clear.

Never was he involved in a scandal, not even as one of New York’s most eligible bachelors, living in a fishbowl with paparazzi waiting for a slip-up.

Never did we WRITE about it.

And never, ever, was he implicated or even whispered to be involved in the use of performance-enhancing drugs, a temptation that brought down several of his high-profile teammates, including Roger Clemens, Pettitte, Jason Giambi and, of course, A-Rod.

Let's all whisper REALLY LOUDLY that he's a suspect like any other.

He always said the right thing.

FUN?! I don't want to know about FUN! I don't UNDERSTAND fun! I don't WANT to understand!

"He always gave me vapid shit I could spin into a dream of classy nonsense," is more like it.

He always did the right thing.

Except by continuing to play shortstop when he wasn't the best option for the team, insisting on sharing shortstop with Jimmy Rollins in the WBC when Rollins was the MVP, hurting the team and HURTING AMERICA!

Except by continuing to play this year, which looks like it has a good chance to be a disaster.

He always acted the right way.

How is this different from doing the right thing?

Oh and...


Fucking classy!

“For nearly 20 years, there has been no greater ambassador to the game of baseball than Derek Jeter,” Major League Baseball Players Association executive director Tony Clark said. “Day in and day out, on the world’s greatest stage and through the peaks and valleys of a 162-game schedule, Derek consistently demonstrates awe-inspiring levels of passion, determination and excellence.

Awe-inspriing levels of bullshit.

Tony, I want to like you. I realize you have a job to do, but...

“A champion on and off the field, Derek’s impact cannot be understated.”

Try to understate it. For me. Or, you know, just state it. Just don't over-state it. The hyperbole serves nobody, no even Jeter, in the end.

Jeter, a no-brainer, first-ballot, perhaps even close to unanimous Hall of Famer, will be forever revered in New York just like Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Mantle and Rivera.

All of whom the media rolled over for.

The Yankees knew there would be a day he’d eventually have to retire.

And prayed it would come soon.

They figured there would even be a conversation this summer.

I call BS. They knew about this all winter

Sorry, but Jeter figured there was no reason for any talk.

Because you would do all the talking.

He wanted to go out on his terms.

A gaudy museum piece and an over-celebrated millstone. .

“At the end of the day,’’ Levine says, “he leaves as a champion.’’

Or, as an also-ran.

Was there ever any doubt?

If you can call a fourth-place part-time shortstop a champion, then no, no doubt.

Ceetar
Feb 14 2014 10:43 AM
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That was rough.

I like the bit how we're all giddy for the start of spring training but Jeter gets there and is like "This again? Fuck..I quit."

He has an annual press conference because he's a pissy brat that wants to avoid talking to the media as much as possible. Here, I'm going to talk to you all now and leave me alone the rest of the spring will ya?

metirish
Feb 14 2014 11:19 AM
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Sports journalists are an especially embarrassing group when it comes to fawning over players , it is as if they try to outdo the other in tripe like this.

Great breakdown Edgy

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 11:38 AM
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The only really relevant part is the Mantle/Mays/Paige thing. That shit just steams my shorts.

Frayed Knot
Feb 14 2014 12:00 PM
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"He wants to go out like Michael Jordan"

What, playing for the Wizards?
Is it even possible for a top player to go out any worse than Jordan? Well, Joe Jackson I guess, but not too many others.

Centerfield
Feb 14 2014 12:02 PM
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CLASSY JETER RETIRES ON HIS OWN TERMS

Crane Pool Forum News - October 14, 2014
By: Centerfield

Leave it to Derek Jeter to retire the right way.

This wasn't the way you’d hoped the Captain was going to go out — announcing it with little fanfare, at the conclusion of a disappointing season that saw the Yankees miss the playoffs for a second consecutive year. But you knew, in your heart of hearts, that this was the way it was going to be. There will be no victory lap for Jeter. No six months of adulation. See, Derek Jeter has always been about the team. And to put himself at the center of attention would be, simply stated, UnJetery.

We all knew this day would come. When ultimately his fading physical talents would not be able to live up to his commitment to the team. We all knew Jeter would be the first one to tell us when he was done. Selfless player that he is.

We first saw it in 2004, when Alex Rodriguez joined the Yankees. Jeter, the consummate teammate, gave up his coveted shortstop position, his birthright, to make room for the Gold Glover Rodriguez. Yankee fans bemoaned the move, but Derek knew it was for the good of the team. And now, the good of the team dictates that Derek will hang up the uniform for good. And we in Yankeeland will have to respect that decision again.

But don't expect us to like it. As Brian Cashman explained, “We were caught off guard with his announcement (on Facebook). We wish we could have known what he was planning. We would have loved to be able to give him the proper sendoff.”

Silly Cashman. It's like you just met Derek Jeter.

So with his career now in the rear view mirror, Jeter goes down as one of the five greatest Yankees of all time, right there on their own position players’ Mount Rushmore with Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio and Mantle. He is their all-time hits and stolen base leader and though he could not be considered a power hitter, it is the home runs for which he’ll likely be most remembered: His first home run, off Dennis Martinez on Opening Day in Cleveland in 1996, that helped the Yankees beat the Indians and started him off to Rookie of the Year honors; his “Mr. November” home run off Arizona’s Byung-Hyun Kim to win Game 4 of the 2001 World Series; his 3,000th hit home run off the Tampa Bay Rays’ Cy Young ace David Price in 2011, to name three.

“I just know it took Joe Torre and I only two weeks into that first spring training in ’96 to know we had a shortstop,” Don Zimmer, Jeter’s mentor, was saying by phone from St. Petersburg on Wednesday. “It wasn’t any one thing. It was everything, the way he hit, the way he fielded the position, the way he threw, the way he ran and mostly just the way he carried himself. Now all these years later you think of things like this: You know how Yogi always used to say DiMaggio never made a mistake? Well, how many mistakes do you think Jeter made in his entire career? I remember one time early on, he got himself picked off second base. What does he do? He comes back to the dugout, pushes himself right between me and Torre on the bench, just to aggravate us.

So now, whether we like it or not, there will be no farewell tour. No video tributes, no waving his cap in visiting ballparks. Just the string of championships he leaves in his wake.

"I'm surprised anyone would have thought he'd do anything else." Zimmer said on Wednesday: “Nothing Derek Jeter ever does would surprise me, except if he had announced his retirement before the season. That's just not him.”

We know Don. We just wished he would have been a little selfish. Just this once.

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 12:07 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
"He wants to go out like Michael Jordan"

What, playing for the Wizards?
Is it even possible for a top player to go out any worse than Jordan? Well, Joe Jackson I guess, but not too many others.



Mark McGwire.

Sammy Sosa.

Lance Armstrong.

Marion Jones.

Pete Rose.

Danny Almonte.

Tonya Harding.

Mike Tyson.

Ben Johnson.

Dora Ratjen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 14 2014 12:09 PM
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Good work in this thread. You all say what I'd say if I didn't not care so much.

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 12:15 PM
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“I just know it took Joe Torre and I only two weeks into that first spring training in ’96 to know we had a shortstop,” Don Zimmer, Jeter’s mentor, was saying by phone from St. Petersburg on Wednesday. “It wasn’t any one thing. It was everything, the way he hit, the way he fielded the position, the way he threw, the way he ran and mostly just the way he carried himself. Now all these years later you think of things like this: You know how Yogi always used to say DiMaggio never made a mistake? Well, how many mistakes do you think Jeter made in his entire career? I remember one time early on, he got himself picked off second base. What does he do? He comes back to the dugout, pushes himself right between me and Torre on the bench, just to aggravate us."

Best forgotten footnote in his career is that George Steinbrenner had so little faith in rookies that he not only tried to countermand Watson, Torre, and Zim in installing Jeter at shortstop, he set up a deal to send Rivera to Seattle for Felix Fermin, before Watson stood firm.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 14 2014 12:40 PM
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Wow. Think of all the gagging that could have been averted if Rivera had been traded to Seattle at that time.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 14 2014 12:59 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Wow. Think of all the gagging that could have been averted if Rivera had been traded to Seattle at that time.


At least Safeco has that retractable roof so that people would have been able to stay dry during the inevitable soft rain showers.

seawolf17
Feb 14 2014 01:17 PM
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A Mariners roster with Jeter/ARod/Griffey/Edgar/Unit would have won a crapton of games.

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 01:21 PM
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No, it was Rivera that was going to be sent to the Mariners.

Jeter was just going to be buried behind Felix Fermin.

Nymr83
Feb 14 2014 09:01 PM
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I love that "classy" still gets used for the guy who gave gift bags to his Fuck Buddies and the use isn't even sarcastic.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 14 2014 09:28 PM
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In all fairness to Mr. Soft Rain, sarcastic gift bags would probably be worse.

Ceetar
Feb 15 2014 06:47 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
In all fairness to Mr. Soft Rain, sarcastic gift bags would probably be worse.


"Here's a signed ball from John Flaherty. This is a pencil Tanyon Sturtze used to order a pizza once in Chicago.. It's all in a reusable Trader Joes shopping bag that you need to return to my driver when you get home. He'll wait. Also bring out the numbers of any of your hot friends. no one over 27 though. I've already leafed through your wallet and will bill you $50 if you don't return the bag."

G-Fafif
Feb 15 2014 08:19 AM
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New York and Jeter got better together, or some such muscle-pulling malarkey, via a member of Newsday's editorial board.

So Derek Jeter is set to retire, and the testimonials have begun. A season of goodbyes awaits, much like last year's long farewell to teammate Mariano Rivera.

This is not another paean to Jeter's athletic legacy, which is considerable and worthy of being remembered as long as baseball is played. Nor is it a lament for the gaping void he will leave at Yankee Stadium.

I'd rather focus on a different aspect of Jeter, because I always have been fascinated by the mirror he held up to New York, what it reflected and what it did not.

He arrived on the scene at an interesting time. And his rise as one of the sport's greats paralleled the rebirth of the city.

Jeter had a cup of coffee with the Yankees in 1995 before joining the team full time in 1996. New York had been grappling with a litany of urban woes -- high crime, high unemployment and racial tension, among others -- and was beginning to emerge from some of them. Crime rates were plunging. Times Square was starting to shed its seedy past. Tourism was inching upward.

Along came Jeter, who put together a Rookie of the Year season and helped lead the Yankees to their first World Series championship in 18 years. The victory energized the city and became part of its burgeoning feel-good vibe. The Yankees made it sexy to root for New York again, and no one epitomized that better than their young shortstop.

He was what many New Yorkers wanted to be -- cool, classy and soon to be rich. He was someone you could depend on, someone who always did the right thing. His resiliency reflected the city's get-up-off-the-mat mentality. You always knew Jeter was going to figure it out and, whatever was needed, that's just what he was going to do.

More than anything, Jeter was about the single-minded pursuit of winning. Everything else was subjugated to that one goal. That's what New York always has been about, too, for better and for worse. Finishing on top. Being the best. Having the most. Year after year, Jeter was the exemplar.


In some ways, however, he was the antithesis of the city. He was not brassy or bold like Joe Namath or Walt Frazier. He didn't scream "look at me" like A-Rod or Reggie Jackson. He was intensely private and had no interest in seeing photos of him and his latest girlfriend splayed across the tabloids.

He also seemed to have a healthy skepticism about his fame.

A few days after the attacks of Sept. 11, Jeter and other Yankees visited an armory where families of the missing were waiting in agony for word of their loved ones. Jeter later expressed his discomfort, admitting he didn't know what to say at first. Like many of his teammates, he didn't think a baseball player would be much comfort to people in such distress. They discovered otherwise once they were there. Most of the people simply wanted to see him.

Jeter said he was overwhelmed. And when rescue workers asked for his autograph, he said he felt like he should be asking for theirs because they were the real heroes.

For most of the time since then, Jeter has been the Yankees' anchor, with a stature not often seen in New York. He's been his own kind of tourist attraction, a magnet drawing fans of all demographics to the South Bronx. It is no accident that the Yankees posted 17 of their top 20 season attendance figures with Jeter at shortstop.

Just as the city was reborn during his tenure, so were the Yankees. A few years ago, they erected a fancy new ballpark. Its nickname tells the story: The House That Jeter Built.

Edgy MD
Feb 15 2014 11:03 AM
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Can we look at how new wave wouldn't have happened without Doug Flynn?

d'Kong76
Mar 05 2014 09:45 AM
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seawolf17
Mar 05 2014 10:03 AM
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BARF

d'Kong76
Mar 05 2014 10:07 AM
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It's so over the top, I was just speechless.

dinosaur jesus
Mar 05 2014 10:23 AM
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That's just begging for some Photoshopping.

themetfairy
Mar 05 2014 10:31 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
BARF


This

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 05 2014 10:37 AM
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Where's the E. Pluribus Unum?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Mar 05 2014 10:46 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 05 2014 11:18 AM

Since there are no team logos on here, or even Jeter's name, I suspect this is the work of an enterprising businessman looking to part silly MFY fans and their hard-earned dollars. I can almost salute him for taking advantage of their desires for what makes normal people barf.

On the bright side, Tom Verducci's Christmas shopping is DONE! He's furiously rounding up each cousin's T-shirt size as we speak!

d'Kong76
Mar 05 2014 11:03 AM
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Their company logo is, "Licensed only by the first ammendment!"

http://www.smackapparel.com/

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 05 2014 11:09 AM
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Does the First Amendment explicitly protect the right to create hideous expressions of misguided sentiments?

Vic Sage
Mar 05 2014 11:28 AM
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well, not EXPLICITLY, but i think if you read between the lines, then yeah.

Lefty Specialist
Mar 05 2014 11:47 AM
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If I ever see someone in one of those shirts I will give them an Atomic Wedgie.

seawolf17
Mar 05 2014 08:41 PM
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It's like The 7 Line for stupid people.

MFS62
Mar 05 2014 09:30 PM
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"The house that Jeter built"?

Yeah, well, when you consider how easy it is to hit a home run there, I guess so.

I don't want to give that editorial writer a wedgie, I want to Valdespin him.

Later

Lefty Specialist
Mar 06 2014 06:43 AM
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If anyone ever hit Jeter with a shaving cream pie, would the world as we know it cease to exist? Or does he have a pie-repellent force field that would deflect it before it arrived at its target? I guess we'll never know.

dinosaur jesus
Mar 06 2014 11:19 AM
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Ceetar
Mar 06 2014 11:34 AM
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change "you'll always be the captain to me" to

"I enjoyed my time with the little captain"

Edgy MD
Mar 26 2014 02:03 PM
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Fortune Magazine ranks the world's greatest leaders.

1. Pope Francis, Catholic Pontiff, Vatican by way of Argentina
2. Angela Merkel, Chancelloress, Germany
3. Alan Mulally, CEO, Ford Moters, United States
4. Warren Buffett, CEO, Berkshire Hathaway, United States
5. Bill Clinton, Founder, The Clinton Foundation, United States
6. Aung San Suu Kyi, Chair, National League for Democracy, UK by way of Myanmar
7. Gen. Joe Dunford, Commander, U.S. Forces, Afghanistan, United States
8. Bono Vox, Lead singer, U2, Republic of Ireland
9. Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama, Buddhist leader, India by way of Tibet
10. Jeff Bezos, Annoying CEO, Amazon.com, United States
[bigpurple:26l3uc5a]11. Derek Sanderson Jeter, Shortstop and Captain, New York Yankees, United States[/bigpurple:26l3uc5a]

Wouldn't you feel stupid to be #12?

d'Kong76
Mar 30 2014 03:31 PM
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One last time, before the season starts this evening. I want
to make sure everyone knows, this is Jeter's last season. Last
one. There won't be another after this one. Embrace it!

Frayed Knot
Mar 30 2014 06:05 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Fortune Magazine ranks the world's greatest leaders.

1. Pope Francis, Catholic Pontiff, Vatican by way of Argentina
2. Angela Merkel, Chancelloress, Germany
3. Alan Mulally, CEO, Ford Moters, United States
4. Warren Buffett, CEO, Berkshire Hathaway, United States
5. Bill Clinton, Founder, The Clinton Foundation, United States
6. Aung San Suu Kyi, Chair, National League for Democracy, UK by way of Myanmar
7. Gen. Joe Dunford, Commander, U.S. Forces, Afghanistan, United States
8. Bono Vox, Lead singer, U2, Republic of Ireland
9. Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama, Buddhist leader, India by way of Tibet
10. Jeff Bezos, Annoying CEO, Amazon.com, United States
11. Derek Sanderson Jeter, Shortstop and Captain, New York Yankees, United States

Wouldn't you feel stupid to be #12?


Even Olbermann made fun of this a few days ago, wondering how captaining a stacked roster backed with a top payroll to one championship in 13 years falls so high on FORTUNE's leadership scale.

Edgy MD
Mar 30 2014 07:25 PM
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Clckbait?

MFS62
Mar 31 2014 09:46 PM
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That's a pretty high ranking for a guy who has made 7748 outs in his career.

Later

seawolf17
Apr 01 2014 08:04 AM
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Bono has a last name?

Edgy MD
Apr 01 2014 08:06 AM
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Hasn't been on his stationary since about 1984, but YES!!

HahnSolo
Apr 01 2014 09:00 AM
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So you're the Houston Astros. You've been in the AL for about 15 minutes. You've got very little history with the Yankees except for maybe: a) a combined no-hitter at old YS; b) Wang breaking his foot running the bases and Hank Steinbrenner getting ornery about it, and c) hosting Rivera's final series last season.
Now, knowing you have little history, but at the same time knowing this is the kickoff to Jeter's "farewell tour", do you have to do a ceremony/lame gift presentation?
My guess is they'll be forced into doing something, they'll bring out Clemens/Pettitte, give Jeter some stupid Texas-themed present and be done with it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 01 2014 09:12 AM
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I think they already announced they would do something, before the 2nd game of the series iirc.

Cowboy hat or something.
edit -- those are some great Astro-MFY memories.

Weird also that the Astros closed last season vs the MFYs and open with 'em this year.

(predicting a Houston sweep)

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2014 09:25 AM
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The MFY's were the Astros opponents in the first game ever played at The Astrodome. Mickey Mantle hit the Dome's first hit and the first HR ever.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2014 09:30 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
The MFY's were the Astros opponents in the first game ever played at The Astrodome. Mickey Mantle hit the Dome's first hit and the first HR ever.


Video of Mantle Astrodome HR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCNfSjG3 ... -kKHvZeN5o

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 01 2014 10:19 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
The MFY's were the Astros opponents in the first game ever played at The Astrodome. Mickey Mantle hit the Dome's first hit and the first HR ever.


Video of Mantle Astrodome HR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCNfSjG3 ... -kKHvZeN5o


President LBJ and Senator G. Hodges at the 1:20 mark.

Frayed Knot
Apr 01 2014 10:44 AM
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I was wondering the same thing about the whole Jeter/Astros "history" and why that should possibly merit a send-off.
Maybe for an encounter so brief the 'stros should just give him a gift basket.

Frayed Knot
Apr 02 2014 07:08 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I never root for injuries, but ya gotta admit that there'd be a certain amount of hilarity to the situation if Jeter's hand had been broken when he got plunked in his first AB last night and had to miss like four months or something.

Lefty Specialist
Apr 02 2014 07:26 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

What would be funnier is him hitting .180 with no power and striking out in every crucial situation, but the Yanks being unwilling to sit him down for the good of the team because he's Derek F'n Jeter, and he's got to get a fruit basket and a Winnebago from every team they visit.

Ceetar
Apr 02 2014 07:30 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Lefty Specialist wrote:
What would be funnier is him hitting .180 with no power and striking out in every crucial situation, but the Yanks being unwilling to sit him down for the good of the team because he's Derek F'n Jeter, and he's got to get a fruit basket and a Winnebago from every team they visit.


And with 'unnamed team players' saying it's all a distraction.

Frayed Knot
Apr 02 2014 07:39 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Lefty Specialist wrote:
What would be funnier is him hitting .180 with no power and striking out in every crucial situation, but the Yanks being unwilling to sit him down for the good of the team because he's Derek F'n Jeter, and he's got to get a fruit basket and a Winnebago from every team they visit.


Oh sure. But there's also something about THE YEAR OF JETER getting transformed into THE MINUTE OF JETER via the very 1st AB (first pitch?) of the season that's almost too delicious to even contemplate. One wonders how many mediots would immediately declare the entire 2014 baseball season not worth watching once that happened.
Of course he might also try to pull a Mariano and change up his retirement plan by a year, but there's a difference here: unlike Rivera, I don't think the Yanx would offer Jeter a contract for 2015. That I think, as much as the stated 'I want to do other things' reason, is why he decided that this will be his final season.


Side note: Watching Jose Altuve smack two hits off CC Sabathia--who I think lost the equivalent of Jose Altuve during the off-season--was kind of comical.

bmfc1
Apr 02 2014 07:56 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Here we go... enjoy "The Jeet Index":
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/derek-jeter

metirish
Apr 02 2014 08:04 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Here we go... enjoy "The Jeet Index":
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/derek-jeter




OMFG...what an embarrassment, and then there is this, TRIPE

Shape up, CC, or doom DJ's farewell
April, 1, 2014

By Ian O'Connor

MFS62
Apr 02 2014 08:17 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Frayed Knot wrote:
I was wondering the same thing about the whole Jeter/Astros "history" and why that should possibly merit a send-off.
Maybe for an encounter so brief the 'stros should just give him a gift basket.

At least the Astros had someone smart in their marketing department. They scheduled post game fireworks last night. The season-long fellatiation of El Capitan is scheduled to begin tonight. It would be great if they attracted a small crowd.

Later

Lefty Specialist
Apr 02 2014 10:03 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

bmfc1 wrote:
Here we go... enjoy "The Jeet Index":
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/derek-jeter


Are you sure that's not an April Fool joke? Because otherwise it's just, well, embarrassing.

Lefty Specialist
Apr 03 2014 07:59 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Let the bizarre gift-giving begin.....

Ceetar
Apr 03 2014 08:00 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I'm sure this info is out there somewhere on like Cribz or whatever, but what do these guys do with all this junk?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 03 2014 08:19 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

They probably have a trophy room in their mansion.

My guess is that somebody in the Houston front office said, "Hey! Let's give Derek Jeter some kind of footwear that he'll never wear!"

MFS62
Apr 03 2014 08:22 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Ceetar wrote:
I'm sure this info is out there somewhere on like Cribz or whatever, but what do these guys do with all this junk?

Derek probably re-gifts it. The gifts probably all have his name on them, so what greater gift can he give?
(SM= 98)
Later

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 04 2014 09:25 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan



So, you guys want one of these? Supposedly they'll be sold during MYF road games.

I like how the Blue Jays are sort of floating there, off the map.

Edgy MD
Apr 04 2014 10:06 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

They left out Panama.

Woe to all the NL teams who miss out.

d'Kong76
Apr 04 2014 10:21 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

We should get in on this action!

Jeter in The Hall 2015!

The funniest thing that could happen this year along this
wonderful journey is that he fails one of the new piss tests
or something.

Lefty Specialist
Apr 04 2014 10:50 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Boy, it'll really grind my gears if they sell these at Citi.

d'Kong76
Apr 04 2014 10:57 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

They'll be in The Jeter Pavilion once the circus leaves town
and they can set things up.

Frayed Knot
Apr 04 2014 11:02 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Lefty Specialist wrote:
Boy, it'll really grind my gears if they sell these at Citi.


If they were selling Mariano retirement tour shirts at Fenway last year (and they were) then Jeter shirts at CitiField is a near certainty.

Lefty Specialist
Apr 04 2014 11:05 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Then consider my gears ground. Can someone buy one, rip it up and put the video on YouTube? kthxbye.

Ceetar
Apr 04 2014 11:10 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Frayed Knot wrote:
Lefty Specialist wrote:
Boy, it'll really grind my gears if they sell these at Citi.


If they were selling Mariano retirement tour shirts at Fenway last year (and they were) then Jeter shirts at CitiField is a near certainty.


I don't recall seeing the shirts at Citi though. But I don't think I looked either.

SteveJRogers
Apr 04 2014 02:48 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

d'Kong76 wrote:
They'll be in The Jeter Pavilion once the circus leaves town
and they can set things up.


Would not shock me if it wasn't at The 7 Line's kiosk, under the auspices of the 7 Line's owner also running a line of non-Met specific crap apparel.

Ceetar
Apr 04 2014 02:53 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

SteveJRogers wrote:
d'Kong76 wrote:
They'll be in The Jeter Pavilion once the circus leaves town
and they can set things up.


Would not shock me if it wasn't at The 7 Line's kiosk, under the auspices of the 7 Line's owner also running a line of non-Met specific crap apparel.


this one maybe?

d'Kong76
Apr 07 2014 08:33 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

PSA: Today is Jeter's last home opener ever. Ever!

Frayed Knot
Apr 07 2014 10:01 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

PSA: Today is Jeter's last home opener ever. Ever!


I have a funny feeling that the media is going to over-do this angle of Jeter's season
HIS LAST SHIT EVER IN THE COMERICA CLUBHOUSE TOILET!!! ... film at eleven.

Ceetar
Apr 07 2014 10:09 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

When players like Jeter retire, do they breakup with their ladies in the away cities?

Lefty Specialist
Apr 07 2014 10:43 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

.....or their cabana boys?

d'Kong76
Apr 07 2014 11:05 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Frayed Knot wrote:
I have a funny feeling that the media is going to over-do this angle of Jeter's season
HIS LAST SHIT EVER IN THE COMERICA CLUBHOUSE TOILET!!! ... film at eleven.


They're tweetin' and a twattin' #DEREKBM

Nymr83
Apr 07 2014 01:47 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

a side-show to the season-long-national-jeter-blowjob: the yankees brought out Pettite, Rivera, and Posada to say goodbye today, as the other members of the alleged "core 4" (Andrew Marchland calls them that on ESPN.com today and i've heard it used before)

but my questions would be; 1. "core" of what? and more importantly 2. "why 4, or why these 4?"

I'd think you'd have to answer the first question by saying the "core of the recent yankees dynasty", but while its easy to put a start-date on that group (the post-strike era) its hard to put an end date, because the 1996 championship team looks almost nothing like the 2009 team. its easiest to say the 1996-2001/3 team was a dynasty and the 2009 team was an isolated winner (previous WS appearence 6 years earlier, none since) and if so, my question becomes: why Posada? Bernie Williams (and possibly Paul O'Neil) was a bigger contributor to Yankee championships and to the dynasty than Posada was.

Ceetar
Apr 07 2014 01:58 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I think it's all because they came up at roughly the same time.

which of course is fudging it a bit. Jeter barely played in 95. Posada got into one game and one postseason game. (Jeter didn't get into any). no AB and didn't play in the '96 playoffs at all. Rivera sucked and was converted to a reliever fulltime in '96.

But Bernie was there prior to that so he must have been part of the reason they sucked then right?

HahnSolo
Apr 07 2014 08:17 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Oh, god how I wish Mr.-does-everything-the-right-way had gotten thrown out at second after jogging and admiring the ball he thought was going out today. They almost had him too.

Zvon
Apr 08 2014 03:20 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I don't read these Skankee threads. It's American League business, so I don't care. But I have to share that todays Daily News had 1/2 a page on the Mets and 6 pages of Jeter. This is going to be one long season in that regard.

Ceetar
Apr 08 2014 03:25 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Zvon wrote:
I don't read these Skankee threads. It's American League business, so I don't care. But I have to share that todays Daily News had 1/2 a page on the Mets and 6 pages of Jeter. This is going to be one long season in that regard.



newspapers? they still make those?

SteveJRogers
Apr 08 2014 03:28 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Ceetar wrote:
I think it's all because they came up at roughly the same time.

which of course is fudging it a bit. Jeter barely played in 95. Posada got into one game and one postseason game. (Jeter didn't get into any). no AB and didn't play in the '96 playoffs at all. Rivera sucked and was converted to a reliever fulltime in '96.

But Bernie was there prior to that so he must have been part of the reason they sucked then right?


Actually he was turned during the 1995 season. There is a great "what if" I think in Buster Onley's book about what if Rivera had been brought in during Game 5 against the Mariners in the 1995 ALDS as he was on the roster as a reliever, not their regular 8th inning guy yet though.

And to further that bit with Posada, he doesn't become the full-time catcher until 1999/2000. I want to say Girardi is still the regular guy through 1999.

Edgy MD
Apr 08 2014 03:34 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

My theory is that, when all is said and done, Girardi is going to be the sole reason Posada doesn't make the Hall of Fame. By keeping Posada on the bench as the starting catcher at the start of Jorge's career, and by benching him as manager at the end, the numbers fall short even as the rates do not.

Edgy MD
Apr 09 2014 09:46 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

“He always thought about the weight his words carried and how it affected his teammates and his organization. That happened long before, with his teammates and his organization. So when you’re think about something that’s is the signature of Derek, it’s the substance.”


Buck Showalter talking partial nonsense about Jeter, and his copyeditors doing the rest.

Nymr83
Apr 09 2014 10:11 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Edgy MD wrote:
My theory is that, when all is said and done, Girardi is going to be the sole reason Posada doesn't make the Hall of Fame. By keeping Posada on the bench as the starting catcher at the start of Jorge's career, and by benching him as manager at the end, the numbers fall short even as the rates do not.



We all owe a debt of gratitude to Girardi!

MFS62
Apr 10 2014 12:26 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

One of the writers in the Daily News (yesterday early edition) actually said that in the game, two balls got by Jeter (we commented on one here) that (close paraphrase) "an average major league shortstop would have fielded."

I'm guessing that he sees more and more time as DH this year as the pitchers start to quietly complain to Girardi.

Later

SteveJRogers
Apr 10 2014 02:31 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

[url]http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/m/random-thoughts/introducing-the-derek-jeter-retirement-barf-bag/

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 10 2014 02:54 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

If it had actual, DNA-tested Jeter barf in it, you could probably sell it for $2,000 on eBay.

dinosaur jesus
Apr 10 2014 03:23 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
If it had actual, DNA-tested Jeter barf in it, you could probably sell it for $2,000 on eBay.


That would suggest that Jeter himself is sickened by the fawning, which somehow I doubt.

Remember, Jeter is French for "hurl."

d'Kong76
Apr 10 2014 03:37 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I'd buy one of those, pretty funny.
Where or who is kruchyfrogg these days?

Nymr83
Apr 14 2014 07:28 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Yankee fans upset Jeter out of lineup for Sunday home game against Red Sox, great quote from Girardi:

Joe Girardi wrote:
“I understand the fans want to see [Jeter] play and I get that, … [but] I’m sure they would be a little more upset if he was out two weeks or a month,” Girardi said before adding, “I wasn’t hired to put on a farewell tour.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 14 2014 09:37 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Yankee fans upset Jeter out of lineup for Sunday home game against Red Sox, great quote from Girardi:

Joe Girardi wrote:
“I understand the fans want to see [Jeter] play and I get that, … [but] I’m sure they would be a little more upset if he was out two weeks or a month,” Girardi said before adding, “I wasn’t hired to put on a farewell tour.



This is going to be a distraction for the team all year. A less-egotistical player would have announced at the end of the season, or even in the last month.

When did Willie Mays announce? I know that the Willie Mays night was toward the end of the season.

Edgy MD
Apr 14 2014 09:54 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

September 20, 1973.

themetfairy
Apr 14 2014 10:15 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Every time I see this thread title I wonder where David Wright is going.

Frayed Knot
Apr 14 2014 10:44 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

metsguyinmichigan wrote:
This is going to be a distraction for the team all year. A less-egotistical player would have announced at the end of the season, or even in the last month.


I suspect this early announcement was the result of several factors:
- the Yanx get to cash in on the rolling retirement party. Lots of "Last Time Ever" stuff --both actual merchandise and less tangible things as well-- to sell.
- that the team made it clear to Jeter that the raise he was getting after a lost year was essentially a good-bye package and that no such contract would be offered for 2015. Retiring in advance so to speak gets rid of a whole ton of questions and speculation based on each AB or missed game (he's already sat of 4 of their first 12)
- it closes the window on the idea that Jeter would have to lower himself to the indignity of looking for jobs with other teams at the end of the year.
- it closes the possibility that a bad and/or injured season is seen as the reason for this being his last year. By announcing ahead of time that "it's time to do new things" it's easy to say that he would have quit even off a good year

By taking all those factors out of play, the pre-season announcement might end as many distractions as it causes.

d'Kong76
Apr 14 2014 10:46 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I'm still pullin' for a failed pee test. By Jeter, not Wright.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 14 2014 10:48 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Frayed Knot wrote:
This is going to be a distraction for the team all year. A less-egotistical player would have announced at the end of the season, or even in the last month.


I suspect this early announcement was the result of several factors:
- the Yanx get to cash in on the rolling retirement party. Lots of "Last Time Ever" stuff --both actual merchandise and less tangible things as well-- to sell.
- that the team made it clear to Jeter that the raise he was getting after a lost year was essentially a good-bye package and that no such contract would be offered for 2015. Retiring in advance so to speak gets rid of a whole ton of questions and speculation based on each AB or missed game (he's already sat of 4 of their first 12)
- it closes the window on the idea that Jeter would have to lower himself to the indignity of looking for jobs with other teams at the end of the year.
- it closes the possibility that a bad and/or injured season is seen as the reason for this being his last year. By announcing ahead of time that "it's time to do new things" it's easy to say that he would have quit even off a good year

By taking all those factors out of play, the pre-season announcement might end as many distractions as it causes.


Good points, all.

SteveJRogers
Apr 14 2014 03:14 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Yankee fans upset Jeter out of lineup for Sunday home game against Red Sox, great quote from Girardi:

Joe Girardi wrote:
“I understand the fans want to see [Jeter] play and I get that, … [but] I’m sure they would be a little more upset if he was out two weeks or a month,” Girardi said before adding, “I wasn’t hired to put on a farewell tour.



This is going to be a distraction for the team all year. A less-egotistical player would have announced at the end of the season, or even in the last month.

When did Willie Mays announce? I know that the Willie Mays night was toward the end of the season.


How many full season retirement "tours" have there been, besides Rivera and Jeter?

Off the top of my head;

Ripken, Gwynn, Brett, Ryan, Yount, famously the Clemens one that he came back from.

Heh, actually the best way to go was Mike Schmidt. Right after a crud fest of a first month just say "that's it, I'm done!" And he was able to be elected as a starter to the All Star Team!

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 14 2014 03:18 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Chipper Jones too, I think.

SteveJRogers
Apr 14 2014 03:34 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Chipper Jones too, I think.


Right, forgot Larry.

Oddly enough, to counter MGIM's point, I've seen Met fan angst over not having one of our own have a "retirement tour" and specifically why Piazza didn't have one.

Obviously I don't recall Piazza saying that 2007 was to be his final season, and it would have been kind of odd seeing him get pre-game gifts from places where he'd only played in interleague games or as an Athletic that very season as that was his last team he played for.

Ceetar
Apr 14 2014 04:53 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

SteveJRogers wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Chipper Jones too, I think.


Right, forgot Larry.

Oddly enough, to counter MGIM's point, I've seen Met fan angst over not having one of our own have a "retirement tour" and specifically why Piazza didn't have one.

Obviously I don't recall Piazza saying that 2007 was to be his final season, and it would have been kind of odd seeing him get pre-game gifts from places where he'd only played in interleague games or as an Athletic that very season as that was his last team he played for.


Maybe if he did he'd be in the Hall now.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2014 06:21 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Didn't Biggio get a full season retirement fest?

MFS62
Apr 15 2014 06:55 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
If it had actual, DNA-tested Jeter barf in it, you could probably sell it for $2,000 on eBay.

Been thinking that I don't want to know how they got that DNA for comparison purposes.

Later

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2014 07:00 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

"Well you can't actually dust for vomit" -- Nigel Tufnel

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2014 07:12 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Checking out Biggio, he announced his retirement July 24, effective at the end of the season, enough time to get one more circuit through most NL cities, where he could get (if the Mets are any example) a nice video scoreboard farewell montage, but not so much to plan pre-game ceremonies.

And the Mets were the nominal home team of his Long Island childhood, so on second thought, I'm guessing he didn't spark much of a grand tour at all.

Frayed Knot
Apr 26 2014 06:50 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Checked in briefly on the Yanx/FOX game today. In it they were giving the upcoming schedule of Jeterian "lasts" (cuz, you know, it's all about him): last home game, last game in his native state of Michigan, last game at Fenway, etc. In the rundown they included the date of this year's All-Star Game as another Jeter-last.
I wasn't aware that the rosters had been set for that game yet.

Nymr83
Apr 26 2014 07:31 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Frayed Knot wrote:
Checked in briefly on the Yanx/FOX game today. In it they were giving the upcoming schedule of Jeterian "lasts" (cuz, you know, it's all about him): last home game, last game in his native state of Michigan, last game at Fenway, etc. In the rundown they included the date of this year's All-Star Game as another Jeter-last.
I wasn't aware that the rosters had been set for that game yet.



We all know Jeter was starting that game at SS even if he is batting .200.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2014 04:33 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I didn't know he was from Michigan! He's just like Madonna!

MFS62
Apr 27 2014 06:56 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I didn't know he was from Michigan! He's just like Madonna!

At least Madonna has married some of the people she fucked.

Later

Ceetar
Apr 27 2014 12:57 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Nymr83 wrote:
Checked in briefly on the Yanx/FOX game today. In it they were giving the upcoming schedule of Jeterian "lasts" (cuz, you know, it's all about him): last home game, last game in his native state of Michigan, last game at Fenway, etc. In the rundown they included the date of this year's All-Star Game as another Jeter-last.
I wasn't aware that the rosters had been set for that game yet.



We all know Jeter was starting that game at SS even if he is batting .200.


fuck that, it's a ballot. With plenty of concentrated voting against him we can keep him from starting.

d'Kong76
Apr 27 2014 01:01 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Nothing will keep him from starting.

Edgy MD
Apr 27 2014 02:06 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

A steroid suspension might.

dinosaur jesus
Apr 27 2014 03:00 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Edgy MD wrote:
A steroid suspension might.


Nah. If he got caught, they'd just have to legalize steroids.

d'Kong76
Apr 27 2014 04:39 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

dinosaur jesus wrote:
Nah. If he got caught, they'd just have to legalize steroids.

That's funny, and probably correct.
If three guys beat him out in voting he'd still start.
If anyone thought the Mariano thing was overblown,
just wait until Aug, Sept, and perhaps postseason and
it's gonna get unbearable.

d'Kong76
Apr 27 2014 06:32 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Amusing how ESPN takes time tonight to show all the
touristy types taking pictures in wonderment as Jeter is
at the plate. It's his last Sunday night game in April!!

themetfairy
Apr 27 2014 06:57 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

d'Kong76 wrote:
It's his last Sunday night game in April!!


OMG! OMG! OMG!

Nymr83
Apr 27 2014 08:27 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

d'Kong76 wrote:
dinosaur jesus wrote:
Nah. If he got caught, they'd just have to legalize steroids.

That's funny, and probably correct.
If three guys beat him out in voting he'd still start.
If anyone thought the Mariano thing was overblown,
just wait until Aug, Sept, and perhaps postseason and
it's gonna get unbearable.


I have a dream... the Yankees missing the playoffs by 1 game, Derek Jeter striking out to end their season and his career.

MFS62
Apr 28 2014 07:33 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Nymr83 wrote:
I have a dream... the Yankees missing the playoffs by 1 game, Derek Jeter striking out to end their season and his career. Then, Earth will be attacked by Aliens. One Hundred Years later, men will be huddled in their post-apocalyptic caves, teaching their children that the vision of Jeter making the last out of major league baseball has kept their hopes alive. They tell their children, "We must survive, because he made all mankind better."


There. I fixed that for you.

Later

Fman99
Apr 28 2014 07:48 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Straight to the barf bag.

Nymr83
Apr 28 2014 09:19 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Fman99 wrote:
Straight to the barf bag.


that really makes me want to puke

d'Kong76
May 03 2014 08:08 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Jeter went 0 for 7 last night for the first time in his
illustrious career. The milestones continue to pile up
as Captain Intangibles rides into the sunset.

seawolf17
May 03 2014 06:18 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I want him to miss the Hall of Fame by three votes his first time.

Well, I want that to happen every time. But at least the first time.

d'Kong76
May 03 2014 07:21 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

They're not going to vote, he'll go in after the World
Series. As he should.

Frayed Knot
May 11 2014 03:53 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I like the present that the Brewers gave Jeets for his last ever visit to Milwaukee - a walk-off loss.

Mets – Willets Point
May 13 2014 12:49 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

This is so fitting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_(baseball)

d'Kong76
May 15 2014 12:27 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

He was there when it all began, and tonight Captain Derek
Jeter leads his Yankees into battle in his final regular-season
Subway Series ever against the Mets at Citi Field!


Join us at 7:00 ET in the CPF IGT for this historic occasion.
Please refrain using flash photography. Thank you.

themetfairy
May 15 2014 12:33 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

It's easy to refrain from flash photography in this case.

It'll be harder to refrain from puking.

Edgy MD
May 15 2014 03:10 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

And if you guessed "A Framed #2 Made Entirely of Subway Tiles, Trimmed in Both Yankees Navy and Mets Orange and Royal," step right up and collect your prize.

I'll go ahead and hand it to the Mets, for the second straight year, they went for something tasteful, thoughtful, drawn from the fabric of the city both the Yankees and Mets represent, with a huge what-the-fuck-am-I-going-to-do-with-that? factor that the player just has to smile through and humbly respect because, you know, the city.

Good play, Mets!!

Mets – Willets Point
May 15 2014 03:26 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Amused that the photographer in the foreground is cropping Jeffy out of the picture.

Benjamin Grimm
May 15 2014 03:27 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

They should have just given him a $20 gift certificate to the Olive Garden.

Mets – Willets Point
May 15 2014 03:30 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Jeter does have a monstrously huge house in Florida, I'm sure he'll find a place for it. Or he can put it with Rivera's fire nozzle and make a New York themed shower stall.

d'Kong76
May 15 2014 04:17 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

It could be a tad smaller, but I kinda like that gift.
It's not over the top, and well-themed.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 15 2014 04:18 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Going straight to the shower stall in Derek's guest-house's spare bathroom.

Nah, it is nice.

MFS62
May 15 2014 04:21 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I'd rather they'd just give him an 0 for 4 collar.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2014 05:11 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Wouldn't something Tampa-themed-- Platinum seashell? Gold-plated Applebee's menu? Pinstriped stripper pole?-- be more appropriate, seeing as, y'know, he's not actually a New Yorker?

dgwphotography
May 15 2014 08:21 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I hoped they would give him a gift basket on the way out the door....

batmagadanleadoff
May 15 2014 08:35 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

[fimg=533:1m1s0dr2]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BntKVK9IEAAqlfE.jpg[/fimg:1m1s0dr2]

Never thought I'd see the day when I'd be applauding the Mets cheesiness.

d'Kong76
May 15 2014 08:47 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

You thought they should be less chessy?

HahnSolo
May 16 2014 08:22 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Amused that the photographer in the foreground is cropping Jeffy out of the picture.


Lol good catch. I guess no Jeff Wilpon on this date in history.

Mets – Willets Point
May 29 2014 09:44 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

The Poison Control Center advises keeping a copy of this handy in case accidental ingestion of poisons requires induced vomiting.

Actually, reading this I'm wondering if Poe's Law needs to be invoked.

Ceetar
May 29 2014 09:49 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
The Poison Control Center advises keeping a copy of this handy in case accidental ingestion of poisons requires induced vomiting.

Actually, reading this I'm wondering if Poe's Law needs to be invoked.



Oh god.

Is it too late to cancel my lunch order?

dinosaur jesus
May 29 2014 09:49 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
The Poison Control Center advises keeping a copy of this handy in case accidental ingestion of poisons requires induced vomiting.

Actually, reading this I'm wondering if Poe's Law needs to be invoked.


No comments allowed on the ESPN site? What a shame.

d'Kong76
May 29 2014 09:52 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

There's some serious c*** s****** going on in that
piece. Rooster's crow, too funny.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 29 2014 09:56 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I'm all puked out after seeing this douche:

Edgy MD
May 29 2014 10:01 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
The Poison Control Center advises keeping a copy of this handy in case accidental ingestion of poisons requires induced vomiting.

Blocked at work. Hah!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 14 2014 08:11 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2014 08:26 AM

[youtube:2076vggd]X03_bNuihLU[/youtube:2076vggd]



Still having trouble inserting YouTube videos here. (Help! Edgy!)

But note the Mets in this gaggy Jordan Jeter Farewell video -- and how the faces and uniform numbers are pixelated out?

Can we figure out which Mets got roped into this?

Ceetar
Jul 14 2014 08:18 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03_bNuihLU

[youtube]X03_bNuihLU[/youtube]

Still having trouble inserting YouTube videos here. (Help! Edgy!)

But note the Mets in this gaggy Jordan Jeter Farewell video -- and how the faces and uniform numbers are pixelated out?

Can we figure out which Mets got roped into this?


Probably, but I'd have to watch it then and well..

(you just want the stuff after the last = for the youtube tag.)

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 14 2014 08:23 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Thanks!

I think Gee is on the end.

G-Fafif
Jul 14 2014 11:39 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Excellent kickoff to Nike's "your cap can double as a barf bag" campaign.

seawolf17
Jul 14 2014 11:42 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Totally agree. Although the Mets part is pretty funny.

G-Fafif
Jul 14 2014 11:51 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Klapisch again?

Behind pixelation looms the truth. Nike suggests the Mets are afraid to be seen paying proper homage to The Captain. The truth is Derek Jeter has been obscuring the other team in town for two decades. Long gone is the shadow the mighty Mets of the '80s cast. It was replaced by a state-of-the-art New Millennium icon who wears a "2" but established himself as the "1" prior to the turn of the century. If we can't quite make out who the Mets are anymore, it's not technology. It's Jeter. In the wake of his eternally glowing presence, all teams who aren't the Yankees but dare to play in his geographic proximity are destined to tip their caps silently and blurrily.

The Captain's soft rain has left the Mets soaked in futility.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 14 2014 11:56 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

G-Fafif wrote:
Klapisch again?

Behind pixelation looms the truth. Nike suggests the Mets are afraid to be seen paying proper homage to The Captain. The truth is Derek Jeter has been obscuring the other team in town for two decades. Long gone is the shadow the mighty Mets of the '80s cast. It was replaced by a state-of-the-art New Millennium icon who wears a "2" but established himself as the "1" prior to the turn of the century. If we can't quite make out who the Mets are anymore, it's not technology. It's Jeter. In the wake of his eternally glowing presence, all teams who aren't the Yankees but dare to play in his geographic proximity are destined to tip their caps silently and blurrily.

The Captain's soft rain has left the Mets soaked in futility.



Aaaannnnddd there goes lunch!

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 14 2014 12:00 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

I invoke Poe's Law.

seawolf17
Jul 14 2014 12:06 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-origi ... 1604706926

themetfairy
Jul 14 2014 12:11 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

seawolf17 wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-origi ... 1604706926


Perfect antacid to the barf-o-rama original.

Farmer Ted
Jul 14 2014 01:08 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

"He's a bi-racial angel!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWsUxkpv2_k

metsmarathon
Jul 15 2014 06:21 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

so my takeaway from that awful, awful video is that derek jeter demands so greatly that we all show him the respect he deserves, that he's just gonna stand there in the batters box not doing a damned thing until he's sure we've all paid our due homage.

jerk.

Edgy MD
Jul 15 2014 06:24 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Farmer Ted wrote:
"He's a bi-racial angel!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWsUxkpv2_k

I have an ongoing argument with my wife, that acting ain't no big thing. That virtually anybody can do it.

But not Jeter, apparently.

Farmer Ted
Jul 15 2014 07:00 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Derek Jeter coming out of the dugout wearing a white track suit? Bad acting. Bad wardrobe. Bad everything.

Using the word "tip" with Derek Jeter is more than appropriate, though.

d'Kong76
Jul 15 2014 01:30 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Word out of Beijing is that China plans to launch five
nuclear missiles on San Diego, LA, SanFran, Portland,
and Seattle sometime in the very near future.

But first, more on tonight's Nike commercial...

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 15 2014 02:03 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Marc Carig tweets: The blurred out Mets in the Jeter commercial were just actors except for Mr. Met. That was really him.

Hey, those weren't really Mets!!! Was it really Jon Lester?

So, like everything else about Jeter, it's all marketing and hype, smoke and mirrors!

Ashie62
Jul 15 2014 04:21 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

He had a pretty decent career...

d'Kong76
Jul 15 2014 04:48 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

More than decent, but the unprecedented fanfare over
his retirement is getting worse and worse. It's only July.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 15 2014 05:20 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Farmer Ted wrote:
"He's a bi-racial angel!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWsUxkpv2_k


The best line: "You shoulda shot A-Rod!"

seawolf17
Jul 16 2014 07:30 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Leitch: http://t.co/kgbt3rb9mw

"And why did people want Wainwright to lie? Because now Jeter's night -- Jeter's perfect night -- was somehow sullied. Everybody had their stories written in the first inning. This was Jeter's last great moment, and of course he went 2-for-2 because he was special. Wainwright telling the truth meant that the Jeter's Great Night story had to have an asterisk. And Derek Jeter is never, ever supposed to have an asterisk."

Ceetar
Jul 16 2014 12:51 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

[url]http://deadspin.com/the-hater-s-guide-to-derek-jeter-1605937020/all

I'm surprised you can't buy pieces of him at the 9/11 museum.

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2014 12:53 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

That "guide" doesn't get the half of it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 16 2014 01:32 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Yeah, I'm not down with that Deadspin take at all.

Honestly, I don't even hate Jeter as much as most blue and orange people probably do, or even so much what he represents. I mean, I'm sure he's a weenie, and probably an asshole, but what I cannot abide is the bullshit way the media and other large institutions break their backs carrying water for the guy and furiously banging out a narrative as though they'd been ordered to by the Great Bill Madden In The Sky. It's awful. It's insulting. If Jeter weren't an asshole relying on these folks for cover, I'm sure he'd be embarrassed and resent it.

Frayed Knot
Jul 16 2014 02:52 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

As I've often said, it's not Jeter I have a problem with, it's the Jeter-ites.

The only thing that Deadpan thing gets right is the last part about ESPN, but that's just because the folks at Bristol:
a) are so star-driven that they reduce everything to just a handful of teams and players and shove those down your throats (Kobe, Kobe ... LeBron, LeBron ... Manning, Manning ... Brady, Brady ... etc)
and
b) aren't baseball fans so Jeter is one of the few players they actually know

Ceetar
Jul 16 2014 02:58 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Well, it's not that I have a problem with Jeter exactly, it's that I don't think he's any better/nicer/classier/cleaner than any other ballplayer. He's a lot like Shane Victorino really.

But yeah, most of it's the double-standard from the media and from fans. But here's a thought, what's the latest year that you won't be able to find a random Yankee-hat wearing "fan" that won't answer "Derek Jeter" when you ask him who the Yankees Shortstop is? 2017? Or is this retirement thing that widespread that even the fans that only like Yankee posts on facebook and never watch games will be aware of it?

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2014 04:29 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

But come on. He TOTALLY plays into it.

Cashes in that stupid CLASSY brand for all it's worth, giving more time, effort, and thought to massaging the image than actually living up to it.

d'Kong76
Jul 16 2014 04:45 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

He probably has a staff that massages it as well.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 16 2014 05:39 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Edgy MD wrote:
But come on. He TOTALLY plays into it.

Cashes in that stupid CLASSY brand for all it's worth, giving more time, effort, and thought to massaging the image than actually living up to it.


Oh, this. So VERY much this.

Far be it from me to condemn a guy for creating/running a charitable foundation. But I'd just like to note that his is ALL about "healthy activities" for teens (instead of, say, disease eradication, hunger, helping people recover from disasters, or-- hell-- actual teen counseling), that all their messaging spends a lot of time carping about the brand, and that the foundation tends to model its activities-- "Jeter's Leaders," baseball clinics teaching "the right way to play," and vague self-esteem promotion, e.g.-- on the planks of the brand platform.

Ceetar
Jul 16 2014 08:19 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

d'Kong76 wrote:
He probably has a staff that massages it as well.


And a different staff for a different sort of massage.



But he's so self conscious about his image he says as little to the media as possible and retreats, drops "This is the only time I'm talking about this" ultimatums (AND THEY LISTEN?!) and bans cell phones from his friends when he has parties at his house.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 16 2014 08:59 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
But come on. He TOTALLY plays into it.

Cashes in that stupid CLASSY brand for all it's worth, giving more time, effort, and thought to massaging the image than actually living up to it.


Oh, this. So VERY much this.
.


Yes, yes. But the success of this bullshittery depends in large part on a medium willing to swallow it -- or unwilling to reject it. And maybe his success at selling it is what they reward in contrast to Arod whom they gleefully shoot down for the crime of desiring to be percieved as Jeterian.

Edgy MD
Jul 17 2014 04:33 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

They shoot down Mets on the same terms. Tejada, Harvey, others. Some who I imagined have expressed Re2pect for Cheter, some who I imagine couldn't give 2 shits.

By the way, wtf is Re2pect? An S doesn't look like a 2 and a 2 doesn't look like an S and when I read it, I mentally say "Retwopect," and I sound like a drunk Castillian.

There's brand advancement, there's brand management, and there's brand massaging, but that's like... brand enforcement, or something. Something... far more coercive.

Ceetar
Jul 17 2014 07:02 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
But come on. He TOTALLY plays into it.

Cashes in that stupid CLASSY brand for all it's worth, giving more time, effort, and thought to massaging the image than actually living up to it.


Oh, this. So VERY much this.
.


Yes, yes. But the success of this bullshittery depends in large part on a medium willing to swallow it -- or unwilling to reject it. And maybe his success at selling it is what they reward in contrast to Arod whom they gleefully shoot down for the crime of desiring to be percieved as Jeterian.



People are stupid, and they buy what the media sells. Especially before the social media age. It's a lot of chicken/egg stuff, they swallow so the media covers it that way, and the media spews the stuff because they swallow it, etc. And at the time there wasn't a lot of blogs/twitters/etc preaching other lines of though, it was just the mainstream guys. And then he won, which is sorta which Deadspin mentioned, that it reinforced a narrative about how ballplayers are supposed to behave and holds up guys who have won to a different standard.

And like Edgy said, they shoot down Mets, in part because the Mets being losers is the narrative right now. But just wait, if the Mets go to the World Series next year with Harvey being a brash out-going Seaveresque asshole, you might as well deify him.

Nymr83
Jul 17 2014 07:22 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Ceetar wrote:

And like Edgy said, they shoot down Mets, in part because the Mets being losers is the narrative right now. But just wait, if the Mets go to the World Series next year with Harvey being a brash out-going Seaveresque asshole, you might as well deify him.


I'll sign up for that storyline please!

Edgy MD
Jul 17 2014 08:42 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Seaver-in-his-prime could probably be better described as a cold fish than an asshole.

But he sure was ahead of his time with regard to carefully planned image management.

Ceetar
Jul 17 2014 08:49 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Edgy MD wrote:
Seaver-in-his-prime could probably be better described as a cold fish than an asshole.

But he sure was ahead of his time with regard to carefully planned image management.


well my impressions of Seaver are mostly filtered through his work as a broadcaster.

I was thinking of a quote that I can't find that Seaver uttered about acting like winners or not tolerating losing or something like that in 67 or 68. It was portrayed like Seaver willed the Mets to be winners with bravado.

Edgy MD
Jul 17 2014 08:59 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Yeah, but that was spun generally positively, a la Jeter. Certainly a negative spin would have been just as valid, and if Seaver went through a struggle early in his career, those words might have blown up in his face.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Jul 17 2014 09:54 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Edgy MD wrote:
Seaver-in-his-prime could probably be better described as a cold fish than an asshole.

But he sure was ahead of his time with regard to carefully planned image management.


Tom could ruffle a feather or two. Check out the quote from Swoboda in the story.

[url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1906&dat=19710416&id=0NcfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ItkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=664,6476455

Harvey will be fine as long as he is a stud pitcher.

Mets – Willets Point
Jul 17 2014 09:57 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Baseball needs to start again so the Jeter thread is not always at the top.

Edgy MD
Jul 17 2014 10:14 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Seaver-in-his-prime could probably be better described as a cold fish than an asshole.

But he sure was ahead of his time with regard to carefully planned image management.


Tom could ruffle a feather or two. Check out the quote from Swoboda in the story.

[url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1906&dat=19710416&id=0NcfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ItkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=664,6476455

Harvey will be fine as long as he is a stud pitcher.


I have no doubt that's true. There was an incident where Seaver didn't pitch the last game of the season. The Mets had been eliminated, but it could have made the difference between (I think) second or third place and the standings bonuses that represented, and his teammates were pissed.

I just mean to say that GTS had a well polished public image. Middle aged guys like I am now loved the guy. They wanted sons like him --- handsome, athletic, going to college to work instead of to get high, a marine, with a pretty and demure wife, of the hippy generation but apart from them.

This recent bio pretty much sums up all that bullshit, and unfortunately buys it and continues to push it all 30 years after we should have all woken up from the dream. But it's pretty clear the Seaver and DiMaggio and others have been savvy antecedents of Jeter long before the social media world arose.



Dick Young throwing him under the bus may have been a hatchet job that is to his eternal shame, but it's a dark shadow of what made Young a rebellious hero decades earlier, standing apart from the sportswriters who painted characters onto players rather than capturing what was really there.

Nonetheless, I'm totally not ashamed to say that I want Harvey to be less of a douche.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 17 2014 10:22 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Apropos of nothing, it wasn't a full-page ad in the Times but one of those small, bold-bettered messages at the low margin of the front page, that Tom & Nancy bought.

By the way,a player standing up against the war today is almost unimaginable with the camo unis and everything. The last such "controversy" we may ever hear of this was Castillo being grossed out by blown-off limbs, or Delgado's anthem thing. I thought it was not one of Jeff Wilpon's better moments to unilaterally announce to the press that Delgado would not be doing that as a Met.

Edgy MD
Jul 17 2014 10:39 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Also worth noting is that it took a Puerto Rican living in Canada and playing for a Canadian team to take the step that Delgado did.

That story also gets Seaver's service wrong, identifying him as a soldier instead of as a marine. A serious faux pas with some. Freakin' Fort Scott Tribune.

Farmer Ted
Jul 21 2014 12:52 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

A-Rod, not to be outdone...

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e7a2de ... ect-parody

HahnSolo
Jul 21 2014 01:39 PM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Bad enough teams are falling over themselves to give him gifts on Jeter's last visit to their towns, but the Reds decided (you know, with all that history Jeter has playing against Cincinnati) that they absolutely had to give him a gift on their visit to the Bronx this weekend. Yeesh.
[url]http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article/cin/gm-walt-jocketty-todd-frazier-present-derek-jeter-gift-from-reds?ymd=20140719&content_id=85259860&vkey=news_cin

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 30 2014 02:30 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Roger Angell's latest New Yorker piece is also the cover story.

[fimg=444]http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/140908_r254591-320-426.jpg[/fimg]

d'Kong76
Aug 30 2014 07:28 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Not the most flattering caricature.

Trachsel My Tears
Aug 30 2014 07:35 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

d'Kong76 wrote:
Not the most flattering caricature.

But the butt is there for you to kiss or kick, as you choose.

Edgy MD
Aug 30 2014 07:44 AM
Re: Adios El Capitan

Additionally makes the Yankee Stadium audience look like the shadowy minions of darkness fluttering around the heights of Bald Mountain. Smokey figures of midnight and murk that are incompatible with light.