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Adios El Capitan
G-Fafif Feb 12 2014 12:05 PM |
Jeter announces 2014 will be it for the Jeterest player who ever lived.
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G-Fafif Feb 12 2014 12:06 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
His papal-style statement here.
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G-Fafif Feb 12 2014 12:09 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Whereas J. Wilpon gave Rivera the pitching rubber from his 500th save, I assume the official Mets gift to Jeter will be our guts he ripped out on repeated occasions.
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Ceetar Feb 12 2014 12:09 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
He's given so much over the years, all that he asks for 2014 is that he get what he's given....Herpes.
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seawolf17 Feb 12 2014 12:14 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
They're going to fucking "honor" him in May, and I'm going to be sick to my stomach. EFF THAT GUY, METS.
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Frayed Knot Feb 12 2014 12:25 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Let the retirement tours, the written odes, and the calls for the repeal of the five-year HoF waiting list begin.
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smg58 Feb 12 2014 12:25 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
So last year was a big lovefest for Rivera, and this year will be an even bigger lovefest for Jeter. Whatever. I tune out the people who fawn over them anyway. And to be fair, both had great careers.
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d'Kong76 Feb 12 2014 12:27 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Feel bad for Stevie Jeets, news gets announced on his birthday.
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Edgy MD Feb 12 2014 12:29 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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So I guess we can officially put Tom Verducci's ridiculous "Sportsman of the Year" writeup in the bullshit file.
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G-Fafif Feb 12 2014 12:30 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 12 2014 12:32 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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ouch. The Puma pounces.
Another MFY legend to ruin another season. Great.
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Edgy MD Feb 12 2014 12:39 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Ceetar Feb 12 2014 12:43 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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"Doesn't he know it's about money? Greenbacks. Moola. The WS shares for winners is bigger. the endorsement deals. You know these guys," Jeter says, nodding to Gillette, "Wouldn't be here if I was a loser. I'm going to build another fuckpad in my house with this paycheck."
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metirish Feb 12 2014 01:00 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Thank fucking whoever that I don't watch AL baseball and I don't buy the NY rags anymore....hoping to avoid the tour......
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d'Kong76 Feb 12 2014 01:06 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Somewhere there is a bright-eyed Yankee blogger scheming to
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Edgy MD Feb 12 2014 01:07 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I might support that rule. No way he breaks Seaver's percentage record under such circumstances.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Feb 12 2014 01:08 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Getting out before he tests positive!
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Frayed Knot Feb 12 2014 01:11 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Please tell me that this is sarcasm, the Onion, National Lampoon come back to life, ANYTHING! ... because I don't want to live in a world where someone who gets paid to write for a living writes something like that for real. And, let's face it, we all the reason behind the timing for all this: Jeter figured out a way where he never has to set foot on a field with Alex Rodriguez again.
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Frayed Knot Feb 12 2014 01:14 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Beat ya to this one too (see 2:25 PM)
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d'Kong76 Feb 12 2014 01:24 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
D'OH!!
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seawolf17 Feb 12 2014 01:50 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
GAH I HATE THIS WHOLE THING. I'm going to have to turn off the internet.
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Lefty Specialist Feb 12 2014 02:13 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
So is it okay to root for a season-ending injury in game 2 of the season?
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Edgy MD Feb 12 2014 02:34 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
You know, if your specialty is intangibles, do you ever really retire?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 12 2014 03:01 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Exactly.
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Zvon Feb 12 2014 03:11 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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This is my only concern. Does he beat Toms record? If he does that'll bug me.
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Mets – Willets Point Feb 12 2014 03:13 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
He should get gift baskets from every team on his farewell tour.
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Lefty Specialist Feb 12 2014 07:09 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
This farewell tour will make the Mariano sideshow look like an afterthought. Jeter may pull a gluteal muscle from all the ass-kissing that'll be going on.
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Fman99 Feb 12 2014 07:37 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I read this and vomited as I fell backwards deep into the SS/3B hole and flung vomit out towards the living room from my back foot.
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Edgy MD Feb 12 2014 07:45 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Dammit! Where's the damn LIKE button?!
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Frayed Knot Feb 12 2014 09:12 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
btw, Jeter's closest career comp? Craig Biggio
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MFS62 Feb 12 2014 09:40 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'd love the see the expression on the faces of Yankee fans if they find out that one of the gifts he gets will be a basket containing an autographed picture from Michael Sam.
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d'Kong76 Feb 13 2014 08:44 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I've gotten like five emails about this, I guess they think the
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MFS62 Feb 13 2014 08:46 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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You know that many MFY fans? And you allow them to know your email addy? Later
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d'Kong76 Feb 13 2014 08:46 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I'll take twenty of those! Then sell 'em on eGay ... Later
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TheOldMole Feb 13 2014 09:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
What's the worst thing we can wish on Jeter? A .143 season batting average? A groin pull on the first day of the season that turns gangrenous? Paternity suits in every city he visits?
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Benjamin Grimm Feb 13 2014 09:30 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
A repeat of 2013 for him would suit me.
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MFS62 Feb 13 2014 10:42 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Sorry. Like Jeter, you have to earn them. Later
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bmfc1 Feb 13 2014 12:27 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
By October, Wallace Matthew will dehydrate because of his constant flow of tears.
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dinosaur jesus Feb 13 2014 01:51 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Only this. That on the last day of the season, when he takes the field alone in the top of the first while his teammates wait in the dugout, their hands over their hearts, and a roar of applause rises above the stadium, and the leaders of the nations of the world, come to pay tribute, wave their colorful home-made banners, saying "WE LOVE YOU DEREK!" in every script known to man, and the press box flows with writers' tears, and the ghosts of the great ballplayers of the past gather in a pale ring around the infield, bringing an even deeper chill to the October night--that Derek, in the midst of all this, feels suddenly an immense hollowness within, a crushing realization that he is not the man they're cheering for, that he is only a blank screen on which humanity projects its dreams, and that the show is almost over. After the game, he has nothing to say to the cameras, nothing to say to anyone. There's nothing left to say. Only a weak smile as he presses through the throng, a last wave as he climbs into his limousine, and he's gone into the darkness. Exuding quiet class to the end, say the stories the next day. Will we ever see his like again? That, or he hits into five double plays on the day the Yankees miss the playoffs.
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Frayed Knot Feb 13 2014 02:36 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
btw, the Yanx final scheduled game/series for this year? ... Fenway Park
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Edgy MD Feb 13 2014 02:44 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Or "I love him, but pretending he's better than he is has just been EXHAUSTING!"
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seawolf17 Feb 13 2014 03:06 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Been arguing with all my Yankee fan friends who are trying to say he's a Top 5 All Time Shortstop all day.
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Mets – Willets Point Feb 13 2014 03:12 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Smoking gun revelations that he was juicing all along.
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TheOldMole Feb 13 2014 03:41 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
There's no point arguing with Yankee fans. Just shoot them.
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seawolf17 Feb 13 2014 03:53 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Highlight: Me: JAWS puts him 12th among SS (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_SS.shtml), which I think is reasonable. Friend: Some of the guys ahead of him played more than half their careers at other positions. Banks, Yount, Ripken, A-Rod. The list needs some fine tuning. Me: Only Ernie Banks on that list played "more than half" of his career at another position, and even then, just barely (120 more games). Yount played 300 more at SS than OF, Ripken only played 3B at the end of his career (and moved because the O's got someone who played the position better). ARod started playing third because the Yankees got someone who played the position better but Cap'n Intangibles, Mr. "Class," couldn't be bothered to make his team better by keeping the better player in his natural position. So let's not get too crazy there. Friend: My mistake on Ripken and Yount (so Yount played almost half his career in the OF), but their time at other positions was significant enough that they accumulated the necessary stats they wouldn't have otherwise had to make the HOF. I also love how you hold A-Rod above Jeter when it suits your arguments. Ask anyone who they would rather have hitting in a clutch situation (regular season or postseason), regardless of fan affiliation. Me: OH COME ON. "When it suits my cause?" Career OPS with RISP (ARod .929, Jeter .816), career OPS with 2 outs, RISP (ARod .862, Jeter .833), career OPS "late and close" (ARod .896, .792), career OPS in the ninth inning (ARod .836, Jeter .673). Friend: Break out the postseason too, please. Me: Postseason: ARod .263/.369/.464, Jeter .308/.374/.465. So they're THE SAME, except Jeter had a few hits where ARod had walks. And Arod had 41 RBI in 326 PA to Jete's 61 in 734 PA, so he's got a higher RBI/PA ratio too in the postseason. All of Jeter's "value" is in "intangibles," which are only a thing because he had great talent around him his whole career. Players with a career OPS+ of 117: Derek Jeter, Jesse Barfield, Carlton Fisk, Steve Garvey, George Hendrick, Matt Stairs, Lou Whitaker. And you know what? That sounds about right too. Friend: They're the same in OBP & OPS. It's not a contest when it comes to BA. Jeter has 128 more hits in slightly more than twice the games A-Rod has played, which shows he has been able to maintain that high level across more pressure situations. .308 over .263 is not due to a few more hits. Me: Actually, mathematically, that's exactly what it is. Did you forget how to calculate batting average? Oi.
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Ceetar Feb 13 2014 03:55 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I think "strong evidence" is better than a smoking gun. Enough that there is little doubt, but just enough that he denies it and throws hissy fits whenever it's mentioned.
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Mets – Willets Point Feb 13 2014 07:06 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
No, I want the whole shebang: receipts, photographs, blood tests results from the 1990s, multiple witnesses, signed affidavits.
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Nymr83 Feb 13 2014 10:30 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'd like the Mets to win the World Series. Short of that, I can't think of anything baseball-related that would give me greater enjoyment than undeniable proof than Jeter Juiced.
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bmfc1 Feb 14 2014 06:53 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Not a blogger, but a columnist from the Poughkeepsie Journal! http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/arti ... ck_check=1
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 07:01 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'm more offended by the "stumbling Willie Mays" comment.
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Benjamin Grimm Feb 14 2014 07:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
That fool in Poughkeepsie wants them to bend the rules so that Jeter and Rivera can go into the Hall together. "It's the right thing to do," he says.
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 07:05 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Even the title doesn't make any logical sense.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Feb 14 2014 07:06 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Best part:
Yes, we are asking the change the rules not because Jeter has a terminal illness, but so he can go in with a teammate, which would make for a nice ceremony.
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MFS62 Feb 14 2014 07:14 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Speaking of special circumstances.
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Frayed Knot Feb 14 2014 07:23 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
No, they waived the five year rule for Clemente too.
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Nymr83 Feb 14 2014 07:55 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Maybe we should induct Smoltz and Jones this summer with Maddux Glavine and Cox too?
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Frayed Knot Feb 14 2014 07:58 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Why even wait for Jeter to retire? Just hold a special election this weekend so we can get them both in by August.
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metirish Feb 14 2014 08:02 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Mother of God, can we just name the HOF after Jeter , and change JKF airport to DJ2 international.....these fucking twats make me sick.....
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Centerfield Feb 14 2014 08:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'm wiling to meet them halfway. If Jeter dies this year, I'm ok to reduce the waiting period to 3 years.
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metirish Feb 14 2014 08:04 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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LOL....yipee ....
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MFS62 Feb 14 2014 08:06 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Depends when during the year. But, as they used to say in my old neighborhood, it can be arranged. Later
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Ceetar Feb 14 2014 08:08 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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oh god no. Besides not wishing ill on people, can you imagine the ridiculous coverage? the Yankees would try to impose a 2 minute long moment of silence for every game and demand that #2 be cut into the outfield grass for every national game, including the playoffs.
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TheOldMole Feb 14 2014 08:11 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I don't want Jeter to die, I just want his reputation to be irrevocably tarnished.
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metirish Feb 14 2014 08:12 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Yes , there is that, they would fly his body around the country like they did with Reagan, it would be insufferable....NBC would draft in Brokaw give us context....
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dinosaur jesus Feb 14 2014 08:17 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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And they'd put him in a glass coffin in a special room in Yankee Stadium. And bring him out, with strings attached, for holiday specials, where he'd reenact his trademark leap through the magic of puppetry. At least if they inducted the two of them together, it would get a lot of gushing over with at once.
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Lefty Specialist Feb 14 2014 08:54 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Wonder how many Yankee fans have already made hotel reservations for the Cooperstown area for 5 years from now?
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SteveJRogers Feb 14 2014 09:02 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Ironically due to WWII travel restrictions, Gehrig never did have a formal induction until this past year!
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 09:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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It's going to be a great year. They'll spin it every way they want to, but unless he gets his hands on a barrel of steroids and somehow doesn't fail a test, the season is going to be disaster for Jeter. They'll end up replacing him with a going-nowhere journeyman, and pretend he's injured and that he's dying to get out there, but he's doing what's best for the team, but the reality will be that he's wasting their money and hurting the team. At the end of the year, like with Willie Randolph, they'll send him out there for two teary innings, and we'll be asked to think on what might of been, and that somehow Jeter made it perfect anyway, that he really worked his ass of to be here, and played in pain. But we'll all know the truth, that it could never have been otherwise, that he was mailing it in, and he was an millstone to his team even for those two innings.
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d'Kong76 Feb 14 2014 09:06 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I read in the Otsego County Enquirer that a motion will
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Vic Sage Feb 14 2014 09:15 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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maybe he can take a swim in Mariano's electrified pool! I'd be ok with Jeter going in with Mariano then, with Rivera at the podium, sobbing, wracked with guilt, and finally needing to be put down with a trank dart and carried off the stage. Now THAT'S a HOF ceremony i'd pay to see.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Feb 14 2014 09:22 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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In the waning moments of his final game, a pinstriped helicopter should set down near second base. The door would open and Reggie, Joe Torre and other living Yankees in the Hall could emerge, roll out a red carpet to the shortstop position. Derek would make a final toss to first base -- hop-skip, followed by three bounces -- then be taken by the hand to the chopper. Together, they would blow kisses to the weeping press box and ascend into the heavens, touching down in Cooperstown where an induction audience would already be assembled and plaque prepared. Actually, there is not one plaque, but two. He's Derek Jeter, and you can't list all those accomplishments on one. Everyone already enshrined in the Hall would get just a little bit better with Derek among them. The Yankees, meanwhile, announce that they've retired the position of shortstop to relieve other players of the burden of replacing Derek Jeter. (And it's not like anything hit to short during the last couple seasons was an out anyway.)
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seawolf17 Feb 14 2014 09:33 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I love that every few weeks, we get a new "my favorite thread of all time." This place is the dog's bollocks.
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 10:24 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I had the wrong article. I clicked the link and it took me to the front page. I searched for Jeter, and it sent me to this squishy piece.
Now, see, you lose me before you're done with the title. It happens whenever somebody is described as playing the game "the right way." This allegedly objective standard is never described beforehand, and then it's demonstrated how the paragon reaches it. It's his way first, the right way second. It's the right way because it's his way. What is this? The mafia?
I like the "written by." Classy. This isn't one of them "as told by" columns.
Or perhaps, when they got wise and stopped wasting their money on him. Like they almost did (and in retrospect, should have done) last contract. Remember all the photographs of Jetes in other uniforms, Bob? They threw Bernie Williams over the side and they would have thrown Jeter over.
Yes, he's not a slave. But the reality that nobody is going to pay him very long to throw up a .542 OPS and field like a statue must've fed into a little, huh? (By the way, how does this guy get away with the one-sentence paragraph thingie?)
OK, let's look at the last few seasons of Mays, Mantle and Jeter in terms of WAR:
Which one of these guys held on for too long? Which one used his stature to keep collecting big paydays and adulation while he was hurting the team? Your insult to Satchell Paige, who waited a lifetime to play big league ball, I won't even get into. But he was a three-war player, pitching out of the bullpen, at the end of his career!
Earthworms knew it was coming. The day of the week is irrelevant. Lots of allegedly HOF-bound dudes announce their retirements in spring training. Rivera did. Guarantees the entire season focuses on you. But it's Wednesday. Oooh... way to get another one-sentence paragraph out of nothing, there.
...which we've been praying for.
If the Yankees had their druthers, Jeter would have cashed his chips in two years ago.
First of all, who edited that paragraph/sentence? He could have made the announcement at. He could have saved the announcement for. Second of all, he has an annual spring training news conference of his own? How sad? What does he have to announce? "Hi, I'm back. I'm going to try real hard, and HEY! here are some words that rhyme with Jeter!"
He called a second press conference? He gave you a gift basket?
This is typical of him, how? Did he pump his fist afterwards?
Note that Nightie's only two-sentence paragraph so far has been an excerpt.
Duh.
This distinguishes him from nobody ever.
Another two-sentence paragraph. Another excerpt.
On top of what? On top of whom? On top of the fawning fawns who don't want to say what's obvious? That he's got nothing left and he's leading his team toward fourth place?
Michael Jordan retired three times! This is nothing like that! I don't have the basketball equivalent of WAR at my disposal, but I feel comfortable in saying that Jordan at these three junctures of his career was four times, three times, and ultimately twice the player Jeter is right now. Unless we're talking about Michael Jordan the baseball player. Then maybe.
Wow, you're really thinking hard about how to turn this into a positive, because there's a couple of sentences in that paragraph. How about this? He already knows how his body is responding, and he knows things aren't going to get any prettier.
Like any human being. So how is this somehow a demonstration of the height of human grace?
Of course it doesn't.
And thus, I've already taken the hemlock.
You forgot Steinbrenner.
Don't you ever do that again EVER!
YOU DID IT AGAIN!
Or, by schedulestance. I love the unspoken acceptance that the Yankees are highly unlikely to play in October.
It's like... Denny Laine and Paul McCartney!
Who?
I should hope not.
Class, like the right way, has no meaning until we retrofit a meaning based on what we can glean from Jeter.
Ripken was a bum. Tony Gwynn was a tool.
Fake homerun.
The shining paragon of Michael Corleone in a family full of Sonnies.
Generations of the gullible.
Class. Always class.
The Yankees can not BE embarrassed. This should be clear.
Never did we WRITE about it.
Let's all whisper REALLY LOUDLY that he's a suspect like any other.
FUN?! I don't want to know about FUN! I don't UNDERSTAND fun! I don't WANT to understand! "He always gave me vapid shit I could spin into a dream of classy nonsense," is more like it.
Except by continuing to play shortstop when he wasn't the best option for the team, insisting on sharing shortstop with Jimmy Rollins in the WBC when Rollins was the MVP, hurting the team and HURTING AMERICA! Except by continuing to play this year, which looks like it has a good chance to be a disaster.
How is this different from doing the right thing? Oh and... Fucking classy!
Awe-inspriing levels of bullshit. Tony, I want to like you. I realize you have a job to do, but...
Try to understate it. For me. Or, you know, just state it. Just don't over-state it. The hyperbole serves nobody, no even Jeter, in the end.
All of whom the media rolled over for.
And prayed it would come soon.
I call BS. They knew about this all winter
Because you would do all the talking.
A gaudy museum piece and an over-celebrated millstone. .
Or, as an also-ran.
If you can call a fourth-place part-time shortstop a champion, then no, no doubt.
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Ceetar Feb 14 2014 10:43 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
That was rough.
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metirish Feb 14 2014 11:19 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Sports journalists are an especially embarrassing group when it comes to fawning over players , it is as if they try to outdo the other in tripe like this.
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 11:38 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
The only really relevant part is the Mantle/Mays/Paige thing. That shit just steams my shorts.
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Frayed Knot Feb 14 2014 12:00 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
"He wants to go out like Michael Jordan"
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Centerfield Feb 14 2014 12:02 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
CLASSY JETER RETIRES ON HIS OWN TERMS
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 12:07 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Mark McGwire. Sammy Sosa. Lance Armstrong. Marion Jones. Pete Rose. Danny Almonte. Tonya Harding. Mike Tyson. Ben Johnson. Dora Ratjen.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 14 2014 12:09 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Good work in this thread. You all say what I'd say if I didn't not care so much.
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 12:15 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Best forgotten footnote in his career is that George Steinbrenner had so little faith in rookies that he not only tried to countermand Watson, Torre, and Zim in installing Jeter at shortstop, he set up a deal to send Rivera to Seattle for Felix Fermin, before Watson stood firm.
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Benjamin Grimm Feb 14 2014 12:40 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Wow. Think of all the gagging that could have been averted if Rivera had been traded to Seattle at that time.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Feb 14 2014 12:59 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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At least Safeco has that retractable roof so that people would have been able to stay dry during the inevitable soft rain showers.
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seawolf17 Feb 14 2014 01:17 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
A Mariners roster with Jeter/ARod/Griffey/Edgar/Unit would have won a crapton of games.
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Edgy MD Feb 14 2014 01:21 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
No, it was Rivera that was going to be sent to the Mariners.
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Nymr83 Feb 14 2014 09:01 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I love that "classy" still gets used for the guy who gave gift bags to his Fuck Buddies and the use isn't even sarcastic.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 14 2014 09:28 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
In all fairness to Mr. Soft Rain, sarcastic gift bags would probably be worse.
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Ceetar Feb 15 2014 06:47 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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"Here's a signed ball from John Flaherty. This is a pencil Tanyon Sturtze used to order a pizza once in Chicago.. It's all in a reusable Trader Joes shopping bag that you need to return to my driver when you get home. He'll wait. Also bring out the numbers of any of your hot friends. no one over 27 though. I've already leafed through your wallet and will bill you $50 if you don't return the bag."
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G-Fafif Feb 15 2014 08:19 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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New York and Jeter got better together, or some such muscle-pulling malarkey, via a member of Newsday's editorial board.
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Edgy MD Feb 15 2014 11:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Can we look at how new wave wouldn't have happened without Doug Flynn?
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d'Kong76 Mar 05 2014 09:45 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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seawolf17 Mar 05 2014 10:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
BARF
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d'Kong76 Mar 05 2014 10:07 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
It's so over the top, I was just speechless.
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dinosaur jesus Mar 05 2014 10:23 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
That's just begging for some Photoshopping.
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themetfairy Mar 05 2014 10:31 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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This
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batmagadanleadoff Mar 05 2014 10:37 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Where's the E. Pluribus Unum?
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Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 05 2014 10:46 AM Re: Adios El Capitan Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 05 2014 11:18 AM |
Since there are no team logos on here, or even Jeter's name, I suspect this is the work of an enterprising businessman looking to part silly MFY fans and their hard-earned dollars. I can almost salute him for taking advantage of their desires for what makes normal people barf.
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d'Kong76 Mar 05 2014 11:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Their company logo is, "Licensed only by the first ammendment!"
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 05 2014 11:09 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Does the First Amendment explicitly protect the right to create hideous expressions of misguided sentiments?
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Vic Sage Mar 05 2014 11:28 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
well, not EXPLICITLY, but i think if you read between the lines, then yeah.
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Lefty Specialist Mar 05 2014 11:47 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
If I ever see someone in one of those shirts I will give them an Atomic Wedgie.
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seawolf17 Mar 05 2014 08:41 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
It's like The 7 Line for stupid people.
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MFS62 Mar 05 2014 09:30 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
"The house that Jeter built"?
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Lefty Specialist Mar 06 2014 06:43 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
If anyone ever hit Jeter with a shaving cream pie, would the world as we know it cease to exist? Or does he have a pie-repellent force field that would deflect it before it arrived at its target? I guess we'll never know.
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dinosaur jesus Mar 06 2014 11:19 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Ceetar Mar 06 2014 11:34 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
change "you'll always be the captain to me" to
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Edgy MD Mar 26 2014 02:03 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Fortune Magazine ranks the world's greatest leaders.
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d'Kong76 Mar 30 2014 03:31 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
One last time, before the season starts this evening. I want
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Frayed Knot Mar 30 2014 06:05 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Even Olbermann made fun of this a few days ago, wondering how captaining a stacked roster backed with a top payroll to one championship in 13 years falls so high on FORTUNE's leadership scale.
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Edgy MD Mar 30 2014 07:25 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Clckbait?
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MFS62 Mar 31 2014 09:46 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
That's a pretty high ranking for a guy who has made 7748 outs in his career.
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seawolf17 Apr 01 2014 08:04 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Bono has a last name?
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Edgy MD Apr 01 2014 08:06 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Hasn't been on his stationary since about 1984, but YES!!
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HahnSolo Apr 01 2014 09:00 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
So you're the Houston Astros. You've been in the AL for about 15 minutes. You've got very little history with the Yankees except for maybe: a) a combined no-hitter at old YS; b) Wang breaking his foot running the bases and Hank Steinbrenner getting ornery about it, and c) hosting Rivera's final series last season.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 01 2014 09:12 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I think they already announced they would do something, before the 2nd game of the series iirc.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 01 2014 09:25 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
The MFY's were the Astros opponents in the first game ever played at The Astrodome. Mickey Mantle hit the Dome's first hit and the first HR ever.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 01 2014 09:30 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Video of Mantle Astrodome HR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCNfSjG3 ... -kKHvZeN5o
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 01 2014 10:19 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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President LBJ and Senator G. Hodges at the 1:20 mark.
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Frayed Knot Apr 01 2014 10:44 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I was wondering the same thing about the whole Jeter/Astros "history" and why that should possibly merit a send-off.
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Frayed Knot Apr 02 2014 07:08 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I never root for injuries, but ya gotta admit that there'd be a certain amount of hilarity to the situation if Jeter's hand had been broken when he got plunked in his first AB last night and had to miss like four months or something.
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Lefty Specialist Apr 02 2014 07:26 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
What would be funnier is him hitting .180 with no power and striking out in every crucial situation, but the Yanks being unwilling to sit him down for the good of the team because he's Derek F'n Jeter, and he's got to get a fruit basket and a Winnebago from every team they visit.
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Ceetar Apr 02 2014 07:30 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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And with 'unnamed team players' saying it's all a distraction.
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Frayed Knot Apr 02 2014 07:39 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Oh sure. But there's also something about THE YEAR OF JETER getting transformed into THE MINUTE OF JETER via the very 1st AB (first pitch?) of the season that's almost too delicious to even contemplate. One wonders how many mediots would immediately declare the entire 2014 baseball season not worth watching once that happened. Of course he might also try to pull a Mariano and change up his retirement plan by a year, but there's a difference here: unlike Rivera, I don't think the Yanx would offer Jeter a contract for 2015. That I think, as much as the stated 'I want to do other things' reason, is why he decided that this will be his final season. Side note: Watching Jose Altuve smack two hits off CC Sabathia--who I think lost the equivalent of Jose Altuve during the off-season--was kind of comical.
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bmfc1 Apr 02 2014 07:56 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Here we go... enjoy "The Jeet Index":
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metirish Apr 02 2014 08:04 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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OMFG...what an embarrassment, and then there is this, TRIPE Shape up, CC, or doom DJ's farewell April, 1, 2014 By Ian O'Connor
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MFS62 Apr 02 2014 08:17 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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At least the Astros had someone smart in their marketing department. They scheduled post game fireworks last night. The season-long fellatiation of El Capitan is scheduled to begin tonight. It would be great if they attracted a small crowd. Later
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Lefty Specialist Apr 02 2014 10:03 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Are you sure that's not an April Fool joke? Because otherwise it's just, well, embarrassing.
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Lefty Specialist Apr 03 2014 07:59 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Let the bizarre gift-giving begin.....
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Ceetar Apr 03 2014 08:00 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'm sure this info is out there somewhere on like Cribz or whatever, but what do these guys do with all this junk?
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 03 2014 08:19 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
They probably have a trophy room in their mansion.
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MFS62 Apr 03 2014 08:22 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Derek probably re-gifts it. The gifts probably all have his name on them, so what greater gift can he give? (SM= 98) Later
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Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 04 2014 09:25 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Edgy MD Apr 04 2014 10:06 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
They left out Panama.
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d'Kong76 Apr 04 2014 10:21 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
We should get in on this action!
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Lefty Specialist Apr 04 2014 10:50 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Boy, it'll really grind my gears if they sell these at Citi.
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d'Kong76 Apr 04 2014 10:57 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
They'll be in The Jeter Pavilion once the circus leaves town
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Frayed Knot Apr 04 2014 11:02 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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If they were selling Mariano retirement tour shirts at Fenway last year (and they were) then Jeter shirts at CitiField is a near certainty.
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Lefty Specialist Apr 04 2014 11:05 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Then consider my gears ground. Can someone buy one, rip it up and put the video on YouTube? kthxbye.
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Ceetar Apr 04 2014 11:10 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I don't recall seeing the shirts at Citi though. But I don't think I looked either.
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SteveJRogers Apr 04 2014 02:48 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Would not shock me if it wasn't at The 7 Line's kiosk, under the auspices of the 7 Line's owner also running a line of non-Met specific crap apparel.
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Ceetar Apr 04 2014 02:53 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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this one maybe?
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d'Kong76 Apr 07 2014 08:33 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
PSA: Today is Jeter's last home opener ever. Ever!
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Frayed Knot Apr 07 2014 10:01 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I have a funny feeling that the media is going to over-do this angle of Jeter's season HIS LAST SHIT EVER IN THE COMERICA CLUBHOUSE TOILET!!! ... film at eleven.
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Ceetar Apr 07 2014 10:09 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
When players like Jeter retire, do they breakup with their ladies in the away cities?
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Lefty Specialist Apr 07 2014 10:43 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
.....or their cabana boys?
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d'Kong76 Apr 07 2014 11:05 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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They're tweetin' and a twattin' #DEREKBM
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Nymr83 Apr 07 2014 01:47 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
a side-show to the season-long-national-jeter-blowjob: the yankees brought out Pettite, Rivera, and Posada to say goodbye today, as the other members of the alleged "core 4" (Andrew Marchland calls them that on ESPN.com today and i've heard it used before)
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Ceetar Apr 07 2014 01:58 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I think it's all because they came up at roughly the same time.
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HahnSolo Apr 07 2014 08:17 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Oh, god how I wish Mr.-does-everything-the-right-way had gotten thrown out at second after jogging and admiring the ball he thought was going out today. They almost had him too.
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Zvon Apr 08 2014 03:20 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I don't read these Skankee threads. It's American League business, so I don't care. But I have to share that todays Daily News had 1/2 a page on the Mets and 6 pages of Jeter. This is going to be one long season in that regard.
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Ceetar Apr 08 2014 03:25 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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newspapers? they still make those?
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SteveJRogers Apr 08 2014 03:28 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Actually he was turned during the 1995 season. There is a great "what if" I think in Buster Onley's book about what if Rivera had been brought in during Game 5 against the Mariners in the 1995 ALDS as he was on the roster as a reliever, not their regular 8th inning guy yet though. And to further that bit with Posada, he doesn't become the full-time catcher until 1999/2000. I want to say Girardi is still the regular guy through 1999.
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Edgy MD Apr 08 2014 03:34 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
My theory is that, when all is said and done, Girardi is going to be the sole reason Posada doesn't make the Hall of Fame. By keeping Posada on the bench as the starting catcher at the start of Jorge's career, and by benching him as manager at the end, the numbers fall short even as the rates do not.
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Edgy MD Apr 09 2014 09:46 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Buck Showalter talking partial nonsense about Jeter, and his copyeditors doing the rest.
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Nymr83 Apr 09 2014 10:11 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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We all owe a debt of gratitude to Girardi!
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MFS62 Apr 10 2014 12:26 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
One of the writers in the Daily News (yesterday early edition) actually said that in the game, two balls got by Jeter (we commented on one here) that (close paraphrase) "an average major league shortstop would have fielded."
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SteveJRogers Apr 10 2014 02:31 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
[url]http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/m/random-thoughts/introducing-the-derek-jeter-retirement-barf-bag/
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 10 2014 02:54 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
If it had actual, DNA-tested Jeter barf in it, you could probably sell it for $2,000 on eBay.
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dinosaur jesus Apr 10 2014 03:23 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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That would suggest that Jeter himself is sickened by the fawning, which somehow I doubt. Remember, Jeter is French for "hurl."
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d'Kong76 Apr 10 2014 03:37 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'd buy one of those, pretty funny.
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Nymr83 Apr 14 2014 07:28 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Yankee fans upset Jeter out of lineup for Sunday home game against Red Sox, great quote from Girardi:
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Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 14 2014 09:37 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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This is going to be a distraction for the team all year. A less-egotistical player would have announced at the end of the season, or even in the last month. When did Willie Mays announce? I know that the Willie Mays night was toward the end of the season.
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Edgy MD Apr 14 2014 09:54 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
September 20, 1973.
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themetfairy Apr 14 2014 10:15 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Every time I see this thread title I wonder where David Wright is going.
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Frayed Knot Apr 14 2014 10:44 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I suspect this early announcement was the result of several factors: - the Yanx get to cash in on the rolling retirement party. Lots of "Last Time Ever" stuff --both actual merchandise and less tangible things as well-- to sell. - that the team made it clear to Jeter that the raise he was getting after a lost year was essentially a good-bye package and that no such contract would be offered for 2015. Retiring in advance so to speak gets rid of a whole ton of questions and speculation based on each AB or missed game (he's already sat of 4 of their first 12) - it closes the window on the idea that Jeter would have to lower himself to the indignity of looking for jobs with other teams at the end of the year. - it closes the possibility that a bad and/or injured season is seen as the reason for this being his last year. By announcing ahead of time that "it's time to do new things" it's easy to say that he would have quit even off a good year By taking all those factors out of play, the pre-season announcement might end as many distractions as it causes.
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d'Kong76 Apr 14 2014 10:46 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'm still pullin' for a failed pee test. By Jeter, not Wright.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 14 2014 10:48 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Good points, all.
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SteveJRogers Apr 14 2014 03:14 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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How many full season retirement "tours" have there been, besides Rivera and Jeter? Off the top of my head; Ripken, Gwynn, Brett, Ryan, Yount, famously the Clemens one that he came back from. Heh, actually the best way to go was Mike Schmidt. Right after a crud fest of a first month just say "that's it, I'm done!" And he was able to be elected as a starter to the All Star Team!
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 14 2014 03:18 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Chipper Jones too, I think.
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SteveJRogers Apr 14 2014 03:34 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Right, forgot Larry. Oddly enough, to counter MGIM's point, I've seen Met fan angst over not having one of our own have a "retirement tour" and specifically why Piazza didn't have one. Obviously I don't recall Piazza saying that 2007 was to be his final season, and it would have been kind of odd seeing him get pre-game gifts from places where he'd only played in interleague games or as an Athletic that very season as that was his last team he played for.
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Ceetar Apr 14 2014 04:53 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Maybe if he did he'd be in the Hall now.
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Edgy MD Apr 15 2014 06:21 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Didn't Biggio get a full season retirement fest?
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MFS62 Apr 15 2014 06:55 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Been thinking that I don't want to know how they got that DNA for comparison purposes. Later
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Frayed Knot Apr 15 2014 07:00 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
"Well you can't actually dust for vomit" -- Nigel Tufnel
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Edgy MD Apr 15 2014 07:12 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Checking out Biggio, he announced his retirement July 24, effective at the end of the season, enough time to get one more circuit through most NL cities, where he could get (if the Mets are any example) a nice video scoreboard farewell montage, but not so much to plan pre-game ceremonies.
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Frayed Knot Apr 26 2014 06:50 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Checked in briefly on the Yanx/FOX game today. In it they were giving the upcoming schedule of Jeterian "lasts" (cuz, you know, it's all about him): last home game, last game in his native state of Michigan, last game at Fenway, etc. In the rundown they included the date of this year's All-Star Game as another Jeter-last.
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Nymr83 Apr 26 2014 07:31 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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We all know Jeter was starting that game at SS even if he is batting .200.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 27 2014 04:33 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I didn't know he was from Michigan! He's just like Madonna!
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MFS62 Apr 27 2014 06:56 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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At least Madonna has married some of the people she fucked. Later
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Ceetar Apr 27 2014 12:57 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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fuck that, it's a ballot. With plenty of concentrated voting against him we can keep him from starting.
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d'Kong76 Apr 27 2014 01:01 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Nothing will keep him from starting.
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Edgy MD Apr 27 2014 02:06 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
A steroid suspension might.
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dinosaur jesus Apr 27 2014 03:00 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Nah. If he got caught, they'd just have to legalize steroids.
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d'Kong76 Apr 27 2014 04:39 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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That's funny, and probably correct. If three guys beat him out in voting he'd still start. If anyone thought the Mariano thing was overblown, just wait until Aug, Sept, and perhaps postseason and it's gonna get unbearable.
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d'Kong76 Apr 27 2014 06:32 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Amusing how ESPN takes time tonight to show all the
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themetfairy Apr 27 2014 06:57 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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OMG! OMG! OMG!
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Nymr83 Apr 27 2014 08:27 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I have a dream... the Yankees missing the playoffs by 1 game, Derek Jeter striking out to end their season and his career.
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MFS62 Apr 28 2014 07:33 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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There. I fixed that for you. Later
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Fman99 Apr 28 2014 07:48 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Straight to the barf bag.
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Nymr83 Apr 28 2014 09:19 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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that really makes me want to puke
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d'Kong76 May 03 2014 08:08 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Jeter went 0 for 7 last night for the first time in his
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seawolf17 May 03 2014 06:18 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I want him to miss the Hall of Fame by three votes his first time.
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d'Kong76 May 03 2014 07:21 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
They're not going to vote, he'll go in after the World
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Frayed Knot May 11 2014 03:53 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I like the present that the Brewers gave Jeets for his last ever visit to Milwaukee - a walk-off loss.
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Mets – Willets Point May 13 2014 12:49 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
This is so fitting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_(baseball)
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d'Kong76 May 15 2014 12:27 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
He was there when it all began, and tonight Captain Derek
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themetfairy May 15 2014 12:33 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
It's easy to refrain from flash photography in this case.
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Edgy MD May 15 2014 03:10 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
And if you guessed "A Framed #2 Made Entirely of Subway Tiles, Trimmed in Both Yankees Navy and Mets Orange and Royal," step right up and collect your prize.
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Mets – Willets Point May 15 2014 03:26 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Amused that the photographer in the foreground is cropping Jeffy out of the picture.
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Benjamin Grimm May 15 2014 03:27 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
They should have just given him a $20 gift certificate to the Olive Garden.
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Mets – Willets Point May 15 2014 03:30 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Jeter does have a monstrously huge house in Florida, I'm sure he'll find a place for it. Or he can put it with Rivera's fire nozzle and make a New York themed shower stall.
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d'Kong76 May 15 2014 04:17 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
It could be a tad smaller, but I kinda like that gift.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 15 2014 04:18 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Going straight to the shower stall in Derek's guest-house's spare bathroom.
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MFS62 May 15 2014 04:21 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'd rather they'd just give him an 0 for 4 collar.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 15 2014 05:11 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Wouldn't something Tampa-themed-- Platinum seashell? Gold-plated Applebee's menu? Pinstriped stripper pole?-- be more appropriate, seeing as, y'know, he's not actually a New Yorker?
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dgwphotography May 15 2014 08:21 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I hoped they would give him a gift basket on the way out the door....
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batmagadanleadoff May 15 2014 08:35 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
[fimg=533:1m1s0dr2]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BntKVK9IEAAqlfE.jpg[/fimg:1m1s0dr2]
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d'Kong76 May 15 2014 08:47 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
You thought they should be less chessy?
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HahnSolo May 16 2014 08:22 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Lol good catch. I guess no Jeff Wilpon on this date in history.
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Mets – Willets Point May 29 2014 09:44 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
The Poison Control Center advises keeping a copy of this handy in case accidental ingestion of poisons requires induced vomiting.
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Ceetar May 29 2014 09:49 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Oh god. Is it too late to cancel my lunch order?
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dinosaur jesus May 29 2014 09:49 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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No comments allowed on the ESPN site? What a shame.
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d'Kong76 May 29 2014 09:52 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
There's some serious c*** s****** going on in that
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 29 2014 09:56 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I'm all puked out after seeing this douche:
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Edgy MD May 29 2014 10:01 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Blocked at work. Hah!
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 14 2014 08:11 AM Re: Adios El Capitan Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2014 08:26 AM |
[youtube:2076vggd]X03_bNuihLU[/youtube:2076vggd]
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Ceetar Jul 14 2014 08:18 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Probably, but I'd have to watch it then and well.. (you just want the stuff after the last = for the youtube tag.)
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 14 2014 08:23 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Thanks!
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G-Fafif Jul 14 2014 11:39 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Excellent kickoff to Nike's "your cap can double as a barf bag" campaign.
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seawolf17 Jul 14 2014 11:42 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Totally agree. Although the Mets part is pretty funny.
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G-Fafif Jul 14 2014 11:51 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Klapisch again?
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 14 2014 11:56 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Aaaannnnddd there goes lunch!
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Mets – Willets Point Jul 14 2014 12:00 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
I invoke Poe's Law.
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seawolf17 Jul 14 2014 12:06 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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themetfairy Jul 14 2014 12:11 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Perfect antacid to the barf-o-rama original.
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Farmer Ted Jul 14 2014 01:08 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
"He's a bi-racial angel!"
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metsmarathon Jul 15 2014 06:21 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
so my takeaway from that awful, awful video is that derek jeter demands so greatly that we all show him the respect he deserves, that he's just gonna stand there in the batters box not doing a damned thing until he's sure we've all paid our due homage.
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Edgy MD Jul 15 2014 06:24 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I have an ongoing argument with my wife, that acting ain't no big thing. That virtually anybody can do it. But not Jeter, apparently.
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Farmer Ted Jul 15 2014 07:00 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Derek Jeter coming out of the dugout wearing a white track suit? Bad acting. Bad wardrobe. Bad everything.
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d'Kong76 Jul 15 2014 01:30 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Word out of Beijing is that China plans to launch five
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 15 2014 02:03 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Marc Carig tweets: The blurred out Mets in the Jeter commercial were just actors except for Mr. Met. That was really him.
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Ashie62 Jul 15 2014 04:21 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
He had a pretty decent career...
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d'Kong76 Jul 15 2014 04:48 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
More than decent, but the unprecedented fanfare over
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Lefty Specialist Jul 15 2014 05:20 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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The best line: "You shoulda shot A-Rod!"
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seawolf17 Jul 16 2014 07:30 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Leitch: http://t.co/kgbt3rb9mw
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Ceetar Jul 16 2014 12:51 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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[url]http://deadspin.com/the-hater-s-guide-to-derek-jeter-1605937020/all
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Edgy MD Jul 16 2014 12:53 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
That "guide" doesn't get the half of it.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2014 01:32 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Yeah, I'm not down with that Deadspin take at all.
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Frayed Knot Jul 16 2014 02:52 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
As I've often said, it's not Jeter I have a problem with, it's the Jeter-ites.
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Ceetar Jul 16 2014 02:58 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Well, it's not that I have a problem with Jeter exactly, it's that I don't think he's any better/nicer/classier/cleaner than any other ballplayer. He's a lot like Shane Victorino really.
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Edgy MD Jul 16 2014 04:29 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
But come on. He TOTALLY plays into it.
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d'Kong76 Jul 16 2014 04:45 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
He probably has a staff that massages it as well.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 16 2014 05:39 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Oh, this. So VERY much this. Far be it from me to condemn a guy for creating/running a charitable foundation. But I'd just like to note that his is ALL about "healthy activities" for teens (instead of, say, disease eradication, hunger, helping people recover from disasters, or-- hell-- actual teen counseling), that all their messaging spends a lot of time carping about the brand, and that the foundation tends to model its activities-- "Jeter's Leaders," baseball clinics teaching "the right way to play," and vague self-esteem promotion, e.g.-- on the planks of the brand platform.
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Ceetar Jul 16 2014 08:19 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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And a different staff for a different sort of massage. But he's so self conscious about his image he says as little to the media as possible and retreats, drops "This is the only time I'm talking about this" ultimatums (AND THEY LISTEN?!) and bans cell phones from his friends when he has parties at his house.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 16 2014 08:59 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Yes, yes. But the success of this bullshittery depends in large part on a medium willing to swallow it -- or unwilling to reject it. And maybe his success at selling it is what they reward in contrast to Arod whom they gleefully shoot down for the crime of desiring to be percieved as Jeterian.
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Edgy MD Jul 17 2014 04:33 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
They shoot down Mets on the same terms. Tejada, Harvey, others. Some who I imagined have expressed Re2pect for Cheter, some who I imagine couldn't give 2 shits.
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Ceetar Jul 17 2014 07:02 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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People are stupid, and they buy what the media sells. Especially before the social media age. It's a lot of chicken/egg stuff, they swallow so the media covers it that way, and the media spews the stuff because they swallow it, etc. And at the time there wasn't a lot of blogs/twitters/etc preaching other lines of though, it was just the mainstream guys. And then he won, which is sorta which Deadspin mentioned, that it reinforced a narrative about how ballplayers are supposed to behave and holds up guys who have won to a different standard. And like Edgy said, they shoot down Mets, in part because the Mets being losers is the narrative right now. But just wait, if the Mets go to the World Series next year with Harvey being a brash out-going Seaveresque asshole, you might as well deify him.
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Nymr83 Jul 17 2014 07:22 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I'll sign up for that storyline please!
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Edgy MD Jul 17 2014 08:42 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Seaver-in-his-prime could probably be better described as a cold fish than an asshole.
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Ceetar Jul 17 2014 08:49 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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well my impressions of Seaver are mostly filtered through his work as a broadcaster. I was thinking of a quote that I can't find that Seaver uttered about acting like winners or not tolerating losing or something like that in 67 or 68. It was portrayed like Seaver willed the Mets to be winners with bravado.
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Edgy MD Jul 17 2014 08:59 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Yeah, but that was spun generally positively, a la Jeter. Certainly a negative spin would have been just as valid, and if Seaver went through a struggle early in his career, those words might have blown up in his face.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 17 2014 09:54 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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Tom could ruffle a feather or two. Check out the quote from Swoboda in the story. [url]http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1906&dat=19710416&id=0NcfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ItkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=664,6476455 Harvey will be fine as long as he is a stud pitcher.
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Mets – Willets Point Jul 17 2014 09:57 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Baseball needs to start again so the Jeter thread is not always at the top.
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Edgy MD Jul 17 2014 10:14 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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I have no doubt that's true. There was an incident where Seaver didn't pitch the last game of the season. The Mets had been eliminated, but it could have made the difference between (I think) second or third place and the standings bonuses that represented, and his teammates were pissed. I just mean to say that GTS had a well polished public image. Middle aged guys like I am now loved the guy. They wanted sons like him --- handsome, athletic, going to college to work instead of to get high, a marine, with a pretty and demure wife, of the hippy generation but apart from them. This recent bio pretty much sums up all that bullshit, and unfortunately buys it and continues to push it all 30 years after we should have all woken up from the dream. But it's pretty clear the Seaver and DiMaggio and others have been savvy antecedents of Jeter long before the social media world arose. Dick Young throwing him under the bus may have been a hatchet job that is to his eternal shame, but it's a dark shadow of what made Young a rebellious hero decades earlier, standing apart from the sportswriters who painted characters onto players rather than capturing what was really there. Nonetheless, I'm totally not ashamed to say that I want Harvey to be less of a douche.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 17 2014 10:22 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Apropos of nothing, it wasn't a full-page ad in the Times but one of those small, bold-bettered messages at the low margin of the front page, that Tom & Nancy bought.
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Edgy MD Jul 17 2014 10:39 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Also worth noting is that it took a Puerto Rican living in Canada and playing for a Canadian team to take the step that Delgado did.
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Farmer Ted Jul 21 2014 12:52 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
A-Rod, not to be outdone...
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HahnSolo Jul 21 2014 01:39 PM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Bad enough teams are falling over themselves to give him gifts on Jeter's last visit to their towns, but the Reds decided (you know, with all that history Jeter has playing against Cincinnati) that they absolutely had to give him a gift on their visit to the Bronx this weekend. Yeesh.
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batmagadanleadoff Aug 30 2014 02:30 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Roger Angell's latest New Yorker piece is also the cover story.
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d'Kong76 Aug 30 2014 07:28 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Not the most flattering caricature.
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Trachsel My Tears Aug 30 2014 07:35 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
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But the butt is there for you to kiss or kick, as you choose.
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Edgy MD Aug 30 2014 07:44 AM Re: Adios El Capitan |
Additionally makes the Yankee Stadium audience look like the shadowy minions of darkness fluttering around the heights of Bald Mountain. Smokey figures of midnight and murk that are incompatible with light.
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