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The Future is Here

batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2014 09:47 AM

Last night's airing of The Graduate on TCM reminded me of this old thread about a month after Santana's no-hitter, when the Mets were battling the Nats for 1st place. http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/1820 ... 8239.shtml

d'Kong76 Mar 02 2014 10:58 AM Re: The Future is Here

Tied for first on 03/31/2014! Suck it, Megdal.

Ceetar Mar 02 2014 12:29 PM Re: The Future is Here

Last night's airing of The Graduate on TCM reminded me of this old thread about a month after Santana's no-hitter, when the Mets were battling the Nats for 1st place. http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/1820 ... 8239.shtml They should've been GAMES in front at that point, they really let too many get away when they were doing so well in June. *mutters*

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 03 2014 08:04 AM Re: The Future is Here

Last night's airing of The Graduate on TCM reminded me of this old thread about a month after Santana's no-hitter, when the Mets were battling the Nats for 1st place. http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/1820 ... 8239.shtml Not for nothing, but that's one of the greatest no-bullshit, talkin'-baseball posts in CPF History. And very much influenced by an image of the Mets on a Ben Braddock drift to nowhere. But really, what are we getting then? Let's say it all works out and we can slide Harvey and Wheeler into the Gee and Santana slots, or whatever. Let's say Pelfrey comes back and Niese and Dickey hang around and looks to be a decent bet we'll continue to field a decent starting 'ro. Let's be even more optimistic and figure that Mejia, Parnell, Ramirez, Edgin etc. combine for an actual decent bullpen. I can imagine that much. Well, the actors weren't all there, and the results neither, but generally, the rotation has been adequate and the bullpen... well, the Mets had and have bigger worries. Now the question is: Where's the offense coming from? How committed can we be to Duda? Optimists like me had him at 30 home runs but he's looking like a 20-HR guy. That's a big difference, especially for a right fielder who can't play right field. He's not the worst bet to improve but, geez. I dunno yet. 2 years on and still left to wonder on Doodoo. This thread later gives birth to the first Davis-v-Duda polls. I was a Doodoo Man then, and I'm a Doodoo man now, only more so. I think Davis is traded before camp breaks. Left field and center field are even bigger questions. It's plainly obvious Bay won't be part of the next great Mets team and Nieuwy has shown some ability but also looks like he'll whiff too much as an everyday player. Does he improve? Den Dekker appears as though he'll have similar profile if he even gets as far as Nieuwy. We could use an outfielder or two who can hit, that's for sure, but where are they coming from? Nobody saw Lagares coming. But kudos to Sandy for cutting Bay loose. Eric Young Jr. and Byrd appear to have been get-by guys, while Niuewy looks like he's on his way out. I think if it came to choosing one to stay of he and denDekker, they go with den Dekker now. In my mind, Niuewenhuis is a throw-in in a Tejada-Davis-Pitching Prospect blockbuster bringing us a real shortstop. Davis? I guess at his best he's something between the ghastly slumper we saw early his year and the masher he's been for brief periods of hotness. I think he is what the is, a kind of Adam LaRoche type, not the kind of guy to build an offense around. He's also on pace for closer to 20 HRs than 30. I've had it with Davis. Tejada is a keeper. Good player! Whoops. REally, the worst thing to happen to Sandy's "plan" has been the failures of Davis and Tejada. A lot of shit that seemed quite crazier then (Byrd, Hawkins, Young, etc) actually went right. I'd do what it takes to re-sign Wright in any scenario, worst case he moves over to first base after 3 more years. And it was done. I don't believe Muffy is a longterm solution at second base, and there are plenty of good questions about Valdespin, and even a healthy Reese Havens isn't knocking on the door anymore. Happily I was wrong about Muffy here. Still don't think he should be bulletproof, especially with EYJ and Flores hanging around. I think the time is running out on Thole being a real net positive behind the dish, only OK on D and a decent LH singles hitter, he really looks like a backup/platoon guy. Boom. That Sandy got anything for Thole is one of the miracles of his reign. What I'm trying to say here is Alderson's no dummy, he knows this as well as we should at this point, and if he's really building toward 2013 and '14 he's still several pieces shy. Up to 3 outfielders, a second baseman and a catcher shy, and it's not like they're stacked up at AAA right now. I think he's going to have to try and find some more offensive prospects in the trade market is what he have to do. Beltran for Wheeler was only a good start. Right? Where do we go from here? The answer appears to have been the Dickey trade, some stealth prospect ascension (Lagares), low-risk gambles on vets (enough of them so that we got more Hawkins than Lyons took away, etc).

Edgy MD Mar 03 2014 08:09 AM Re: The Future is Here

I admire your faith that the pre-season blockbuster centered around Ike Davis for a shortstop is still coming.