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Farewell Farnsworth

Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 23 2014 12:24 PM

I don't know if spring training guys get "Memories of..." threads, but apparently he exercised his option for free agency after being told he wouldn't make the team out of camp.

Frayed Knot Mar 23 2014 12:37 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2014 12:46 PM

Just as well as far as I'm concerned. I try not to expend too much energy 'hating' players elsewhere in MLB - but, even within the subset of Neanderthal relievers, Farnsworth always struck me as one of the bigger meatheads out there.

MFS62 Mar 23 2014 12:41 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Frayed Knot wrote: Just as well as far as I'm concerned. I try to to expend too much energy 'hating' players elsewhere in MLB - but, even within the subset of Neanderthal relievers, Farnsworth always struck me as one of the bigger meatheads out there. Humorist Will Rogers once said that he never met a man he didn't like. He would have punched Farnsworth in the mouth. Later

themetfairy Mar 23 2014 01:52 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

There's nothing to remember.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2014 04:48 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

I think they're trying to re-do his deal as a minor league thingy.

G-Fafif Mar 24 2014 08:40 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Rubin reports such a deal is done. Farnsworth will be a Vegan of the Las variety.

Ceetar Mar 24 2014 08:50 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

G-Fafif wrote: Rubin reports such a deal is done. Farnsworth will be a Vegan of the Las variety. the follow up now has his agent denying that.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 24 2014 10:11 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Just a guess: Shayla Farnsworth's okay with a temporary move to Vegas.

Edgy MD Mar 24 2014 10:15 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Oh... Shayla was part of the cast of Baseball Wives. How... about that?

G-Fafif Mar 26 2014 08:32 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Farnsworth officially back in whatever fold he was reported coming back to.

MFS62 Mar 27 2014 02:46 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

He pitched the last inning of today's game. He gave up a run on a wild pitch. The camera followed him after the third out and we heard him say "fuck!" LOUD AND CLEAR in a closeup. I hope the kiddies weren't home from school yet. Later

G-Fafif Mar 27 2014 02:52 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

MFS62 wrote: He pitched the last inning of today's game. He gave up a run on a wild pitch. The camera followed him after the third out and we heard him say "fuck!" LOUD AND CLEAR in a closeup. I hope the kiddies weren't home from school yet. Indeed. Imagine how many children would ask in horror, "Mommy, what's that goddamn Kyle Farnsworth still doing on the Mets?"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 27 2014 03:19 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

G-Fafif wrote: MFS62 wrote: He pitched the last inning of today's game. He gave up a run on a wild pitch. The camera followed him after the third out and we heard him say "fuck!" LOUD AND CLEAR in a closeup. I hope the kiddies weren't home from school yet. Indeed. Imagine how many children would ask in horror, "Mommy, what's that goddamn Kyle Farnsworth still doing on the Mets?" "Fuck if I know, dear."

Ceetar Mar 27 2014 03:20 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: G-Fafif wrote: MFS62 wrote: He pitched the last inning of today's game. He gave up a run on a wild pitch. The camera followed him after the third out and we heard him say "fuck!" LOUD AND CLEAR in a closeup. I hope the kiddies weren't home from school yet. Indeed. Imagine how many children would ask in horror, "Mommy, what's that goddamn Kyle Farnsworth still doing on the Mets?" "Fuck if I know, dear." We're all going to be asking this in about 5 years aren't we?

themetfairy Mar 27 2014 04:36 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

G-Fafif wrote: MFS62 wrote: He pitched the last inning of today's game. He gave up a run on a wild pitch. The camera followed him after the third out and we heard him say "fuck!" LOUD AND CLEAR in a closeup. I hope the kiddies weren't home from school yet. Indeed. Imagine how many children would ask in horror, "Mommy, what's that goddamn Kyle Farnsworth still doing on the Mets?" ROFL - It's how I would pose the question, but my kid is more diplomatic than I am

Benjamin Grimm Apr 26 2014 12:58 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

I guess this thread was premature.

Ashie62 May 04 2014 09:58 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Then again... maybe not...

Mets Guy in Michigan May 10 2014 09:45 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

He's awful. I suspect he's here only until de Groom or Montero clear their arbitration milestone?

Frayed Knot May 11 2014 06:25 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

1) There is no "arbitration milestone", not a specific one anyway. At best it's an estimate that hovers around the late May/early June time frame but even that only matters if the player you bring up stays up continually for at least three seasons. 2) I don't think Montero, or even more so with DeGrom, are the type of players you worry about what they may or may not be getting paid three years down the line, particularly if they're going to start out (and maybe continue as) relievers. IOW, I don't think mgmt is sitting around just waiting for the passing of some non-specific date. There's even talk that Montero might bump Mejia as soon as his next start. 3) Even if reinforcements are coming I don't know that Farnie here is automatically the first one getting tossed overboard. He's mis-cast as a closer but so is everyone on the staff right now along with everyone they're likely to bring up.

Mets Guy in Michigan May 11 2014 01:14 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Who do you think would be the first one out?

Frayed Knot May 11 2014 01:26 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Who do you think would be the first one out? Personally, I have less faith in Valverde than Farnsworth. Beyond that a lot depends on what they do with Mejia. - Is he going to be demoted from the rotation to the pen, or to AAA, or not at all? - If so, does his replacement come from Vegas or from Dice-K? - Are they even willing to consider Montero and/or DeGrom as relievers? - At some point I'm sure they'd like to get a second LHP up here - Will Black or Thorton or someone else currently in Vegas get their act in gear? Black's been better lately - which means he's only walking Half the ballpark.

Frayed Knot May 11 2014 02:25 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 11 2014 02:29 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Personally, I have less faith in Valverde than Farnsworth And now Valverde goes matching Farnsworth by allowing 9th inning run(s?) after starting with 2-out/none-on. oe: and if nothing else, I'm reminded while sitting here watching Valverde that he doesn't have any kind of swing and miss stuff. At least Farnsworth can be counted on the occasional K in between hits allowed/ But Valverde's problem is that the hitters keep fouling stuff off all day long off him to where they're almost certain to find something they like eventually or at least run up his pitch count and shorten his outing if they don't.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 11 2014 02:28 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

This whole team is ugly and broken Nobody picks the next guy up, no sins go unpunished. Will be a very long year if these things don't get a lot better.

d'Kong76 May 14 2014 08:58 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

It's official, farewell

Mets Guy in Michigan May 14 2014 09:07 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

And bitter, too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 14 2014 09:17 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Cold Mets released him days ahead of the deadline by which they'd be on the hook to pay him all year.

d'Kong76 May 14 2014 09:48 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

metsguyinmichigan wrote: And bitter, too. I was just reporting what I heard on tv. What was bitter about it? It was expected.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 14 2014 10:19 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

That the release came despite his being one of the more nominally effective Met relievers this year (read: lucky 3.18 ERA).

Lefty Specialist May 15 2014 06:18 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

So are we now in the dreaded 'closer by committee' zone?

Edgy MD May 15 2014 06:21 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Put your faith not in closers and no dread shall you know.

Benjamin Grimm May 15 2014 06:51 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

I like the idea of closer by committee, if it means you have several good choices. I like the idea a lot less if it means you only have a variety of bad choices.

Frayed Knot May 15 2014 06:53 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

[YOUCAN'TDOTHATIT'LLNEVERWORK]I like the idea of closer by committee...[/EVERYBODYEVERCONNECTEDTOBASEBALL]

Ceetar May 15 2014 07:33 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I like the idea of closer by committee, if it means you have several good choices. I like the idea a lot less if it means you only have a variety of bad choices. Well, we cut one of the bad choices. The lack of adherence to one guy though allows a good one to rise from the ashes. There's some talent floating around out there.

TransMonk May 15 2014 07:35 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Metsblog wrote: "I am very bitter right now,” Farnsworth said after being told the news. “Hopefully I’ll find a team where I can play against this one,” he added (Knobler, May 14). Fuck off, Farnsworth. Really.

Ceetar May 15 2014 07:35 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

TransMonk wrote: Metsblog wrote: "I am very bitter right now,” Farnsworth said after being told the news. “Hopefully I’ll find a team where I can play against this one,” he added (Knobler, May 14). Fuck off, Farnsworth. Really. Yes Kyle, we all hope you get to pitch against the Mets too.

Frayed Knot May 15 2014 07:51 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

I wouldn't expect him to be happy about it, but jeez Kyle, you're 38 y/o, in your 16th ML seasons and your 5th team since 2010; you were picked up via a minor league deal, were cut once already then got back in through an injury and pitched up and down in the meantime - so this really couldn't have come as a total shock. I understand that you're probably pissed at the timing/money part of things but the fact that you were in that situation to begin with was due to your lack of options at the outset.

Edgy MD May 15 2014 08:04 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

What and I missing here? Montero and deGrom replace Gee and Germen, so who is replacing Specs?

Nymr83 May 15 2014 08:04 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

I also hope he gets a chance to pitch against the Mets so we can pound the shit out of him

Ceetar May 15 2014 08:05 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Edgy MD wrote: What and I missing here? Montero and deGrom replace Gee and Germen, so who is replacing Specs? Edgin likely. Reported to be on the Taxi Squad.

Edgy MD May 15 2014 08:09 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Ah, the "second lefty." In previous years, it had been Jerry's answer to Jerry's "eighth-inning guy" --- his white whale, his bęte noire. Haven't heard the cry for a second lefty much of late.

Ceetar May 15 2014 08:15 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Edgy MD wrote: Ah, the "second lefty." In previous years, it had been Jerry's answer to Jerry's "eighth-inning guy" --- his white whale, his bęte noire. Haven't heard the cry for a second lefty much of late. I think that's because they've all more or less sucked, but I'd have to look it up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 15 2014 08:51 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

I sort of like the idea of the Mets finding a bullpen by stashing their worst pitcher in the closer role. It's led to a poor rate of conversion (we have more blown saves - 8 - than saves as a team - 7 - but we're not far off the leaguewide mark (64%) and the influx of arms and competition I think will eventually hit upon the combo that can produce that league average. If they don't there's always the trade market.

Edgy MD May 15 2014 08:54 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

What must Valverde be thinking? "How did I wake up this morning with a job? What's that on the back of my neck? Smells uncannily like the breath of Vic Black." Did the Mets really pull a salary dodge on Farnsworth twice?

RealityChuck May 15 2014 09:39 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Since everyone seems to agree that the closer's role is overrated, why do people obsess about closers?

Edgy MD May 15 2014 09:45 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Is it possible that everyone can agree that something is over-rated? Isn't this a paradox?

Edgy MD May 15 2014 10:09 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Josh Edgin is official. Mets bulk up on lefties just in time for... the Nats, who are pretty righthanded-heavy with Harper on the DL.

smg58 May 15 2014 11:39 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Not that I've been particularly impressed with Farnsworth, but I don't see how swapping him out in favor of a guy with a 2.13 WHIP (not ERA, WHIP) in AAA benefits the team.

MFS62 May 15 2014 11:45 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

smg58 wrote: Not that I've been particularly impressed with Farnsworth, but I don't see how swapping him out in favor of a guy with a 2.13 WHIP (not ERA, WHIP) in AAA benefits the team. Because he's a lefty? (Ducking) Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 15 2014 11:54 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Edgy MD wrote: What must Valverde be thinking? "How did I wake up this morning with a job? What's that on the back of my neck? Smells uncannily like the breath of Vic Black." Did the Mets really pull a salary dodge on Farnsworth twice? A nasty little part of me wants them to float him a minor-league contract offer again and record the phone call.

Frayed Knot May 15 2014 01:12 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Edgy MD wrote: What must Valverde be thinking? "How did I wake up this morning with a job? What's that on the back of my neck? Smells uncannily like the breath of Vic Black." Did the Mets really pull a salary dodge on Farnsworth twice? A nasty little part of me wants them to float him a minor-league contract offer again and record the phone call. And then leak the contents to TMZ ... cuz that's just what folks do these days apparently.

d'Kong76 May 15 2014 01:23 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Or Heyman! I can't believe the attention this is getting... national attention. I'm too lazy, but I gotta read the Farnie predictions thread when I get a chance.

Frayed Knot May 15 2014 01:47 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

I never particularly liked the guy, mainly because he just struck me as a big, dumb, jock, meathead. Of course if I were to eliminate guys based solely on that criteria I'd probably have to put half the league on my shit list, but he just seemed like a particularly prime example. I heard Francesa referring to him as "a failed reliever" the other day, "even back when he still could throw 100", but that's obnoxiously harsh. No one last 16 years in the majors as "a failure". His biggest crime in Mikey's eyes was undoubtedly that he wasn't very good during his two years in the Bronx and always seemed better out of the closers role* rather than in it: you can't compare to Rivera and you weren't good for my team therefore you're a failure. But while nobody likes to see he career come towards the end, I'd really have a hard time getting all worked up over a story of a guy originally signed to a minor league deal who gets a ML job due to an injury but then fails to last the entire season even if I didn't pre-dislike him. If this is becoming anything resembling a national story it's because nobody's got anything else to talk about right now -- at least until Michael Sam and Johnny Football are spotted somewhere sharing a milkshake and a rom-com movie together over at Donald Sterling's house. * Only real season as a full-time closer (25 saves) was with Tampa in 2011

Benjamin Grimm May 15 2014 02:01 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Of course, this story won't really be over until the Mets leak nasty comments about him.

Edgy MD May 15 2014 02:51 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Don't quote me by name, but I heard he spit on Duda's burger.

smg58 May 15 2014 04:49 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

MFS62 wrote: smg58 wrote: Not that I've been particularly impressed with Farnsworth, but I don't see how swapping him out in favor of a guy with a 2.13 WHIP (not ERA, WHIP) in AAA benefits the team. Because he's a lefty? (Ducking) Later Lefties are even more overrated than closers. Especially if they have reverse platoon splits and, well, a 2.13 WHIP in AAA.

Mets Guy in Michigan May 16 2014 06:49 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Of course, this story won't really be over until the Mets leak nasty comments about him. Correction: Until reporters quote the mysterious and unaccountable "someone close to the Mets" making nasty comments about him.

Frayed Knot May 17 2014 12:05 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Farnsworth picked up by Houston and will be in uniform for Saturday's game. So it looks like he'll have to wait until the final series of the season to get his revenge.

Edgy MD May 17 2014 05:21 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

White Sox coming back on Houston this afternoon as Farnie gives up two runs on two hits and two walks in two thirds of an inning.

Frayed Knot May 17 2014 06:17 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Farnsworth enters 8th w/3 run lead: Walk Double Sac Fly Pop Out Walk RBI-Single -- Yanked ... relief gets the first guy to foul out w/runners on 1st & 2nd, thus bailing Farnie's stats out of more ugliness

Edgy MD May 17 2014 07:54 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

The Fansworth Flop: I think that was the technique that revolutionized the high jump event.

Lefty Specialist May 18 2014 10:44 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Farnsworth enters 8th w/3 run lead: Walk Double Sac Fly Pop Out Walk RBI-Single -- Yanked ... relief gets the first guy to foul out w/runners on 1st & 2nd, thus bailing Farnie's stats out of more ugliness With numbers like that he may have to latch on to another team besides Houston to get his revenge.

TransMonk May 18 2014 01:05 PM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Farnsworth enters 8th w/3 run lead: Walk Double Sac Fly Pop Out Walk RBI-Single -- Yanked ... relief gets the first guy to foul out w/runners on 1st & 2nd, thus bailing Farnie's stats out of more ugliness Was watching this game with my dad. I flipped off Farnsworth on the TV as he was yanked.

bmfc1 Jun 26 2014 08:46 AM Re: Farewell Farnsworth

Farnsworth was released by the Astros. Did he vow revenge against them, too?