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Edgy MD Mar 15 2014 07:53 AM

Flight 370 --- what's your theory?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 15 2014 09:16 AM Re: What happened?

Sabotage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 15 2014 10:03 AM Re: What happened?

Hijack gone wrong, looks like.

Ceetar Mar 15 2014 11:33 AM Re: What happened?

Edgy MD wrote: Flight 370 --- what's your theory? life imitating art. they're on an island with polar bears somewhere.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 15 2014 12:15 PM Re: What happened?

It's got to be a hijack-gone-wrong, or some other attempted diversion. I've got a totally unbacked hunch about the younger copilot.

Edgy MD Mar 15 2014 12:20 PM Re: What happened?

I'm thinking it was like the Payne Stewart situation, where compromised air or pressure in the cabin killed or knocked out everyone and it just flew on like a ghost plane until the fuel wore out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 15 2014 12:35 PM Re: What happened?

Ghost plane! Like, the Flying Malaysian? According to the Malaysian military*, radar signals supposedly show a few steered-looking direction changes after contact was lost. Maybe they were possessed by the spirits of the sky? *All due eyebrow-raising implied

Fman99 Mar 15 2014 03:00 PM Re: What happened?

They're definitely on an island somewhere trying to open a mysterious hatch and wondering about "the others."

Rockin' Doc Mar 15 2014 03:13 PM Re: What happened?

Klingon abduction.

d'Kong76 Mar 15 2014 03:16 PM Re: What happened?

They flew that thing into the sea, as martyrs, and praised their god.

d'Kong76 Mar 15 2014 03:16 PM Re: What happened?

They flew that thing into the sea, as martyrs, and praised their god.

Frayed Knot Mar 15 2014 04:55 PM Re: What happened?

Twice apparently. I think the biggest remaining question is whether it was a hi-jacking which ended with the plane going into the sea or if it's been stolen, in effect, (maybe to Iran) for future purposes.

Edgy MD Mar 15 2014 05:25 PM Re: What happened?

Indeed, but I think where in the world the thing is might be a mighty big question, too.

Lefty Specialist Mar 15 2014 08:24 PM Re: What happened?

I suspect the Port Authority's involved somehow.

Gwreck Mar 15 2014 09:03 PM Re: What happened?

Combination homicide/suicide by one of the two pilots.

d'Kong76 Mar 16 2014 08:11 AM Re: What happened?

Frayed Knot wrote: ... or if it's been stolen, in effect, (maybe to Iran) for future purposes. That would be an incredible feat. Lefty Specialist wrote: I suspect the Port Authority's involved somehow. Or that Giuliani guy. I hope they find something, but it's not looking like they will.

MFS62 Mar 16 2014 08:22 AM Re: What happened?

Some aliens got hungry and wanted some Chinese. Later

Edgy MD Mar 16 2014 08:09 PM Re: What happened?

Oh, dear. What "future purpose" could Iran want with a jumbo jet? What's so hard about acquiring one the usual way? Whatever someone would want with the plane, crew, or passengers, I would think the purpose is/was current. But the internet is on the job.

metsmarathon Mar 16 2014 11:13 PM Re: What happened?

the plane was hijacked, almost certainly by a member of the flight crew. to what intended nefarious end, i don't know. more than just simple murder/suicide. if you're going to fly the plane into the sea, why go through the cloak and dagger bullshit of flying the different flight vectors between navigational waypoints? just put it into the ocean. the plan for the plan may have been to eventually fly it onto something important. more important than just the ocean. if it did ultimately end up in the ocean, it was only as a result of a failure of the hijacker to adequately judge the range remaining in the fuel tanks. what about the passengers?? well, i have no idea. i don't know what type of doctor evil shenanigans would be necessary to off a plane-ful of people. it seems to me that the passengers must have been killed early on, awful a thing as it is to speculate on, or else when the plane was back over land, somebody on it would certainly have been connecting to a cell tower. is it possible to cut off the oxygen to the plane and still fly it? could the plane have been gassed (that's gotta be it, right?)? were there possibly enough co-conspirators aboard to quell any surreptitious phone calls and passenger uprising in this post-9/11 world? is it possible all the cell phones aboard the plane could have been jammed, but not in such a fashion as to attract attention?

Edgy MD Mar 17 2014 04:01 AM Re: What happened?

There could be something like the United 93 flight o September 11, where the hijackers either lost control of the plane or prematurely crashed it amid a passenger revolt. Why cell contact was lost? The hijackers may have successfully seized communication devices or kept folks from reaching for their pockets via terror. ("Touch your phone, this one dies.") A third theory could be that they had some tech that could block/jam/disable communications. Heck, that same tech might have interfered with control of the plane, too. Just guessin'.

themetfairy Mar 17 2014 05:32 AM Re: What happened?

metsmarathon wrote: what about the passengers?? well, i have no idea. i don't know what type of doctor evil shenanigans would be necessary to off a plane-ful of people. Perhaps a gas?

MFS62 Mar 17 2014 08:54 AM Re: What happened?

My Canadian frield is vacationing in Cuba. he says the airliner isn't there. Later

HahnSolo Mar 17 2014 02:06 PM Re: What happened?

Lost through a seam in time; down a ridiculously long waterfall. Passengers are now chillin with Will, Holly, and Chaka; fighting off T-Rexs and Sleestaks.

Ceetar Mar 17 2014 02:08 PM Re: What happened?

HahnSolo wrote: Lost through a seam in time; down a ridiculously long waterfall. Passengers are now chillin with Will, Holly, and Chaka; fighting off T-Rexs and Sleestaks. or the Odyssey of Flight 33.

metirish Mar 17 2014 05:54 PM Re: What happened?

CNN are all in on this eh?, wall to speculating wall coverage, from sea to shining sea....and it is working, read today they are having some of their best ratings in years......I was watching it Saturday and got sucked in for a few hours, I swear they were just making shit up.

cooby Mar 17 2014 06:17 PM Re: What happened?

bombs.

Zvon Mar 17 2014 09:22 PM Re: What happened?

Saw this on fb:

Lefty Specialist Mar 18 2014 06:55 AM Re: What happened?

Wow, that's in bad taste. Therefore, I forwarded it to a bunch of my friends.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 18 2014 07:44 PM Re: What happened?

Huh. Well.

metirish Mar 18 2014 07:49 PM Re: What happened?

Huh. Well. Makes sense , maybe too much sense Anderson May I present you with some Love? http://www.theguardian.com/music/shortc ... ines-plane

metsmarathon Mar 19 2014 07:31 AM Re: What happened?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Huh. Well. overly simpled and doesn't really synch up with other things we (think we) know about the flight after its disapperance. namely this does not account at all for the subsequent turns, nor does it account for the ping recorded hours later, with the two arcs, that you may have already seen. this theory puts hte plane in the wrong direction from those arcs. i think the (pilot?) takeover theory is the strongest, as it really could only take one determined, intelligent, knowledgeable, and experienced man to pull it off. he's already in the cockpit and doesn't need to force entry (although the recent video from the one 9-11 widow showing how vulnerable the cockpit still is - 2 well-timed seconds to forced entry). he just has to wait for the co-pilot to leave the cabin, or to be alone with the co-pilot and kill him. he's a highly trained, skilled, and experienced pilot of that specific airframe he would know when he leaves radar coverage, and would likely know hte timing of hte transponder signals he would have access to all the electrical systems necessary to disable the plane's external communications from the cockpit, he could readily kill the passengers by flying up to 45,000' as has been indicated by some radar information, and lowering hte cabin pressure to match the external pressure. oxygen masks would deploy for the passengers, but those would run out in 15 minutes. is it certainly the pilot, and not the co-pilot, another member of the flight crew, or some passenger-cum-hijacker? no. everything i've speculated about the pilot being in the best position is also true of the co-pilot, only perhaps slightly less so. the only thing that's missing is motivation, which is not always necessarily discernable in the aftermath.

Ashie62 Mar 19 2014 08:48 AM Re: What happened?

Files missing from the pilots home flight simulator....

Ashie62 Mar 19 2014 08:54 AM Re: What happened?

You never know...

Edgy MD Mar 19 2014 09:38 AM Re: What happened?

metsmarathon wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Huh. Well. overly simpled and doesn't really synch up with other things we (think we) know about the flight after its disapperance. namely this does not account at all for the subsequent turns, nor does it account for the ping recorded hours later, with the two arcs, that you may have already seen. this theory puts hte plane in the wrong direction from those arcs. i think the (pilot?) takeover theory is the strongest, as it really could only take one determined, intelligent, knowledgeable, and experienced man to pull it off. he's already in the cockpit and doesn't need to force entry (although the recent video from the one 9-11 widow showing how vulnerable the cockpit still is - 2 well-timed seconds to forced entry). he just has to wait for the co-pilot to leave the cabin, or to be alone with the co-pilot and kill him. he's a highly trained, skilled, and experienced pilot of that specific airframe he would know when he leaves radar coverage, and would likely know hte timing of hte transponder signals he would have access to all the electrical systems necessary to disable the plane's external communications from the cockpit, he could readily kill the passengers by flying up to 45,000' as has been indicated by some radar information, and lowering hte cabin pressure to match the external pressure. oxygen masks would deploy for the passengers, but those would run out in 15 minutes. is it certainly the pilot, and not the co-pilot, another member of the flight crew, or some passenger-cum-hijacker? no. everything i've speculated about the pilot being in the best position is also true of the co-pilot, only perhaps slightly less so. the only thing that's missing is motivation, which is not always necessarily discernable in the aftermath. The main problem with your theory is accepting the notion that this veteran pilot with thousands and thousands of hours of flight experience was secretly harboring this desire to become a one-man mass-murdering machine, effectively became one, and then discreetly topped himself by burying the flight in the ocean. All for no known motive. I'm more inclined toward some variation of this guy's mechanical-failure theory, and that many of the changes in the trajectory and altitude can be attributed to a compromised crew wrestling with the controls of a compromised aircraft.

metsmarathon Mar 19 2014 09:52 AM Re: What happened?

no, i don't htink he ended up in the ocean. at least not on purpose. i think he ended up on land. at a runway long enough to accomodate him. or at least that was his intent.

Edgy MD Mar 19 2014 10:03 AM Re: What happened?

An airstrip within range of his fuel? That they still haven't found yet? With little enough traffic that his presumed organization doesn't have to worry about witnesses? Without reflecting on any neighboring radars? Could be. But that certainly doesn't sound like the simplest theory. Criminal mastermind stuff, that.

metsmarathon Mar 19 2014 10:21 AM Re: What happened?

yeah, that's where it starts to fall apart, sure. nothing else would seem to explain the multiple waypoints or the satellite pings four hours following hte disappearance. unless of course those data points are wrong. and i don't know how reliable the data products from those systems are. could the satellite ping have come from a different plane? seems unlikely. could the ping have come from a plane already in the water? seems unlikely.

metirish Mar 19 2014 09:29 PM Re: What happened?

BREAKING NEWS Australian PM saying they have found debris that is possibly from the plane....PM to hold presser in the next hour Australian time.....there does seem to be some confidence in this finding of two possible objects. BREAKING NEWS MSNBC is reporting on Chris Christie

Zvon Mar 19 2014 10:36 PM Re: What happened?

metirish wrote: BREAKING NEWS Australian PM saying they have found debris that is possibly from the plane....PM to hold presser in the next hour Australian time.....there does seem to be some confidence in this finding of two possible objects. BREAKING NEWS MSNBC is reporting on Chris Christie Watching this news conference now. Basically the same stuff they were reporting. So no definitive answer, but it sounds like this very well could be it. I figured they'd have pics to show by now.

Zvon Mar 19 2014 10:48 PM Re: What happened?

Now this newsguy is going to repeat the same stuff over and over for hours. Ha.

Edgy MD Mar 20 2014 07:27 AM Re: What happened?

You figure they'd get some confirmation before throwing a press conference. Why would the Australian prime minister want to break the story? Does he think that wreckage found in his country's territorial waters means they won the lottery or landed the World Cup or something?

metirish Mar 20 2014 07:33 AM Re: What happened?

I was thinking the same thing, perhaps he is bound by law to report to parliament?

Nymr83 Mar 20 2014 08:07 AM Re: What happened?

Putin did it. Why? Because we have 2 pages of nonsense speculation on this while we have 2 posts on his invasion of a neighboring country. Talk about taking our eyes off the ball.

Edgy MD Mar 20 2014 08:25 AM Re: What happened?

I like to think my contributions weren't nonsense, Nymr. Ignorant speculative meanderings, perhaps. But impressively articulated ignorant speculative meanderings. Want to start a thread on Russia's military adventures, please do!

cooby Apr 04 2014 05:34 AM Re: What happened?

What was the announcement last night? I had to go to bed and didn't hear it