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Pelfrey and Mets (reportedly) agree on deal!
GYC Jan 09 2006 07:46 PM |
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/050109pelfrey.html
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Beenso Jan 09 2006 07:49 PM |
its about time.
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seawolf17 Jan 09 2006 08:00 PM |
Niiiice. Get 'im in the rotation!
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Nymr83 Jan 09 2006 08:32 PM |
college pitchers are generally "ready" pretty fast, i'd suspect that if the Mets wanted he could be in AA by year's end and at Shea in 2007.
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Yancy Street Gang Jan 09 2006 09:20 PM |
2007 sounds good to me. There will be one or two openings by then.
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Edgy DC Jan 09 2006 10:04 PM |
Fantastic.
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Zvon Jan 09 2006 10:10 PM |
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wow. and thats out of the chute. I may have to go back to that other thread and offer Reyes mo money....
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Johnny Dickshot Jan 09 2006 11:31 PM |
He would have to come fairly soon, since the Major League deal means a spot on the 40... NOW!!!! ... and his option clock is ticking (meaning he has 3 option years starting in 06).
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Nymr83 Jan 10 2006 01:06 AM |
its pretty bullshit the contracts that prospects can extort from major league teams. why havent they agreed on "slotted" salaries like the NBA has? it would theoretically benefit the union as much as the owners since minor league players arent union members and it would free up more money for big league players contracts.
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Johnny Dickshot Jan 10 2006 07:31 AM |
It's enough already to limit a player from negotiating with all but one employer. Now telling that potential hire there's a limit on what that single employer can pay him?
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MFS62 Jan 10 2006 07:56 AM |
Voice of caution here.
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vtmet Jan 10 2006 08:41 AM |
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Hopefully they've learned their lesson (imagine that) with Heilman of "fixing what ain't broke"...from what I've seen on Heilman, he was success at NCAA with a similar delivery to what he used in the 2nd half last season...and then they decided to change his delivery to something more generic (which based on his numbers in the minors, worked ok in the minors)...and then after getting beat up a bit in the majors, they allowed him to return to the delivery that made him successful in NCAA...and his effectiveness returned...Imagine Sid Fernandez, David Cone, Luis Tiant, or Al "the mad Hungarian" Hrabosky with a generic, cookie-cutting windup/delivery; would they have been as effective? I really don't think Sid would have been, he had average stuff but IMO, because his delivery hid the ball from the batters, they lost time picking the ball up in it's travel... What I'm saying is, if they liked this guy for his stuff and how he handled batters in NCAA, then they should just let him keep doing what has already brought him success...fixing what ain't broke, is gonna break what didn't need fixing...
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Edgy DC Jan 10 2006 09:30 AM |
It's pretty bullshit and (anti-competitive) the way MLB teams extort talent from ballplayers.
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Nymr83 Jan 10 2006 09:39 AM |
thats a fuckin joke, the players are so overpaid it isnt even funny
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Frayed Knot Jan 10 2006 09:39 AM |
Heilman was imagined to be closer to the majors than most simply on account of being a College Senior in the midst of a bunch of Juniors and HS kids, although I don't recall many claims that he'd be a #2 or #3 starter as early as the middle of the following year. Mark Prior pulled off that kind of timetable (briefly anyway) but he was considered one of the best college pitchers in years.
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Nymr83 Jan 10 2006 09:40 AM |
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nobody brought down the NBA or NFL's systems.
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Edgy DC Jan 10 2006 09:49 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jan 10 2006 10:41 AM |
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No, it's not. In real dollars, most minor league salaries haven't changed from the sixties. Only the bonuses have changed, and after the first two rounds that's relatively negligible. So if the guys from the first two rounds get their payday, more power to them. Sports is a huge racket. It's not a matter of overpaid or underpaid. Somebody's making money. Who should it be? The athletes with the talent and a very short period to exploit it or the suits without the talent but rather a monopoly to leverage talent for their profit, and decades-long careers to exploit it? Pelfrey may never see free agency and the riches it'll bring. Very few players do. He's in a position to leverage his marketablity now, let him. It is not bullshit --- or a joke --- that these players negotiate for the best salary a team is willing to pay. It's bargaining.
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Vic Sage Jan 10 2006 10:13 AM |
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hear hear! well said, brother Ed.
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Yancy Street Gang Jan 10 2006 10:35 AM |
I also agree with the above.
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Elster88 Jan 10 2006 10:36 AM |
Chris Rock:
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Edgy DC Jan 10 2006 12:42 PM |
I imagine the Mets are holding off on an announcement until they clear room on the 40-man.
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Nymr83 Jan 10 2006 03:04 PM |
i dont really even have a problem with the draft picks getting money, i just hate the idea that A) guys get picked lower than they should because the small market teams cant afford their demands and B) they can pull a JD Drew.
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metirish Jan 11 2006 01:12 PM |
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Edgy DC Jan 11 2006 01:26 PM |
I'm not sure what "pulling a JD Drew" means, but I have no problem with him refusing to sign and going to the Northern League. He did so at no small risk.
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TheOldMole Jan 11 2006 01:26 PM |
Ah, yes, faith in Scott Boras.
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ScarletKnight41 Jan 11 2006 05:23 PM |
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metirish Jan 11 2006 05:26 PM |
Umm, not a great shirt Jeff.
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SI Metman Jan 11 2006 06:56 PM |
ok, time to get his Tommy John surgery out of the way...
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