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cooby
Jan 07 2006 10:15 AM

For those of us who do care


As long as the Steelers are in it, I'm for them all the way!

Will Jerome Bettis retire? Much as we love him, I gotta say I hope so.
But the Steelers won't be the same without him.



Who are you pulling for?

metirish
Jan 07 2006 10:25 AM

I'm pulling for good games and the Giants.

holychicken
Jan 07 2006 10:50 AM

Giants, damnit! Although, my confidence in them isn't all that high. . . but I will still be pulling for them.

KC
Jan 07 2006 11:24 AM

I guess I don't care who wins - but I'll root for Santana Moss just to have
something to root for.

Yancy Street Gang
Jan 07 2006 12:13 PM

I don't plan on watching (although you never know) but I hope the Giants win.

Frayed Knot
Jan 07 2006 12:27 PM

I'll generally watch a good chunk of the playoffs and, while I'll pull for the Gints to do well, it's not like I have a ton of edge-of-seat rooting interest. If a game's good I'll hang with it, if not ...

Mostly I look at it this way: only 11 football games left until baseball season.

ABG
Jan 07 2006 12:48 PM

Edge of my seat, no more fingernails, high blood-pressure rooting for the Giants.

soupcan
Jan 07 2006 01:04 PM

Had a ticket to the Giant game but can't make it.

Double birthday party weekend fot the family soupcan (No. 2 son turns 7, daughter turns 5).

I will be rooting for Big Blue however.

cooby
Jan 07 2006 01:16 PM

Oh yeah, have fun at that!


I'm trying to figure out exactly which outfit I've been wearing that have made the Steelers win the past few weeks.

The Steelers long sleeve tee, velvet pants and all black underwear was a bust that week.

TheOldMole
Jan 07 2006 01:17 PM

GIants all the way.

And Herm Edwards all the way to Kansas City.

PatchyFogg
Jan 07 2006 02:10 PM

Here's the interview/Giants Playoff Preview that we did with Beat Writer Ralph Vacchiano on Thursday night:

http://hosted.filefront.com/patchyfogg

Elster88
Jan 07 2006 03:04 PM

I'm on the Giants bandwagon for the playoffs. I kind of don't want the Colts to win it all.

metirish
Jan 07 2006 04:45 PM

I hate this TV crew that are doing the Redskins game....

cooby
Jan 07 2006 05:05 PM

At least you can hear them. The sound on our TV is out

OlerudOwned
Jan 07 2006 05:15 PM

cooby wrote:
At least you can hear them. The sound on our TV is out
Same with mine for a while. I was disappointed when it came back on.

Theisman: [The crowd] knows it's the first round of the playoffs!

Where the hell would they have heard that?

KC
Jan 07 2006 05:38 PM

Oh, I forgot ... I will always root for Peyton Manning and his calling plays
at the line (whether he really is or isn't) to lose and never see any victory
of substance in the post season.

Nymr83
Jan 07 2006 06:49 PM

i guess i'm rooting for the Seahawks (my preseason pick to win it all) just to be right. I'd like to see the Bears win though as i love good D.

Willets Point
Jan 07 2006 11:55 PM

Go Patriots.

metirish
Jan 07 2006 11:57 PM

It's a pleasure to listen to two pros like Michales and Madden do a game, especially after enduring the BS from the other crew.

KC
Jan 08 2006 11:03 AM

Saw four guys at the Mobil Mart this morning gassing up a fully tailgate
loaded Silverado with Giants jerseys on - they talked Jauquim into selling
them two cases of beer - I was hoping Juaquim had better sense than to
help out tailgaters who don't plan properly.

Nah, I ain't bitter. Nope, not one bit.

TheOldMole
Jan 08 2006 01:26 PM

Lawrence Taylor on the sidelines. The way the Giants' linebacker corps is going (already lost one today) we may be seeing him before the game is over.

TheOldMole
Jan 08 2006 01:30 PM

Giants are gonna have to establish the passing game.

KC
Jan 08 2006 02:34 PM

That was ugly half a football game for the Giants. They're lucky to only be down 10.

KC
Jan 08 2006 03:00 PM

Funny how two blown non-fumble calls cancel each other out. As good as
the replay rule is most times, there's nothing worse than waiting for a booth
review when the football gods can make things work out even in the end most
times it seems.

TheOldMole
Jan 08 2006 03:19 PM

How many of Eli's passes have been tipped today?

metirish
Jan 08 2006 03:31 PM

Terrible performence by the Giants, what happened the defence today?..horrible.

metirish
Jan 08 2006 04:52 PM

Bad news for the Bengals, Palmer taken out after a big hit on his second snap..

KC
Jan 08 2006 06:33 PM

Palmer needs surgery, they hope he can make camp in July - Bonnie Hottie

Johnny Dickshot
Jan 08 2006 06:59 PM

NICE razzle-dazzle by the Steelers.

That's all I ever wanna see in a football game.

cooby
Jan 08 2006 07:25 PM

KC wrote:
Palmer needs surgery, they hope he can make camp in July - Bonnie Hottie



Don't you just love her? I do too...

Edgy DC
Jan 08 2006 08:10 PM

That Giant game was supposedly the last for Bob Sheppard.

cooby
Jan 08 2006 08:47 PM

The Steelers game was fun to watch. We were eating supper for the first quarter, but once we arrived in the TV room, they put on a show for us.

KC
Jan 08 2006 09:07 PM

>>>Don't you just love her? I do too...<<<

It's the hats.

I feel bad for the Bengal faithful - to lose your guy on the 2nd play of the game
just plain sucks. And Kitna or whatever the heck is name is brought some serious
game for awhile.

Anyone but Peyton ... that's what I'm preachin'.

Iubitul
Jan 08 2006 09:29 PM

Anyone but the Steelers is what I'm preachin'

cooby
Jan 08 2006 09:34 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 08 2006 09:35 PM

KC wrote:
>>>Don't you just love her? I do too...<<<

It's the hats.

I feel bad for the Bengal faithful - to lose your guy on the 2nd play of the game
just plain sucks. And Kitna or whatever the heck is name is brought some serious
game for awhile.

Anyone but Peyton ... that's what I'm preachin'.



I always check to see what scarf she's wearing. When they said it was 62 in Cincinnati today, I was disappointed, but she was still wearing one!
:)


I'm not a Peyton Manning fan either, but I still laugh everytime I see that ad he's in

Elster88
Jan 08 2006 09:35 PM

KC wrote:
Anyone but Peyton ... that's what I'm preachin'.


I'm down with that.

Elster88
Jan 08 2006 09:35 PM

]7 football games 'til baseball season


Nice. Some admin must really not like football, American style.

KC
Jan 08 2006 09:43 PM

The red bar is me ... I watched all four games this weekend.

cooby
Jan 08 2006 09:44 PM

So did I...but guess what, I didn't watch a minute of the Rose Bowl

Frayed Knot
Jan 08 2006 11:19 PM

"Funny how two blown non-fumble calls cancel each other out. As good as the replay rule is most times, there's nothing worse than waiting for a booth review when the football gods can make things work out even in the end most times it seems."

Football's got some weird rules concerning possession in the endzone.
When you're running into the EZ all you have to do is get the ball above the zone's airspace for a split second and is all good. You yourself never have to set foot in there. Or at the sideline only your toenail needs to touch the pylon while the ball can be 6 feet out of bounds so long as it crosses the imaginary extension of the goal line.
But on these pass plays you seemingly have to not only catch the ball and still have it when you land, but also hold onto it until you've bounced off the turf at least 3 times and skidded to a stop. I saw several of those this weekend including the one where Tampa c/should have tied the game.
I don't like the replay nonsense anyway but it's really bad when the announcers (and presumably the refs) are looking at this stuff in slow motion saying; 'look, I think I see the ball wiggling in his arms'!! At that point you're pretty much into nit-picking beyond belief. There was one (not in the endzone) in the Pitt/Cincy game today too where they overturned a catch based on the guy not making enough "football moves" -- even after he landed with both feet on the ground and the ball in his damn hands!! -- on far too little evidence IMO.





You know it was a bad day for the Giants when the punter was your team MVP for the day




Palmer's injury could throw a wrench into the J-E-T-S plan just as the Brees one in SD did since now Rivers & Kitna might be needed by their present teams instead of being available to squads looking for a temp (or semi-permanent) QB next year.
Even when it's over it doesn't end for Gang Green

Elster88
Jan 09 2006 12:06 AM

KC wrote:
The red bar is me ... I watched all four games this weekend.


Incorrect conclusion on my part then.

Also didn't mean to imply that I don't like the football-style countdown.

MFS62
Jan 09 2006 07:49 AM

For the fans who don't root for Big Blew, their loss will result in us now having to suffer through more of "All Tiki, All the Time".

Now that he won't be spending his time practicing for the next game, I predict we'll be subjected to his being interviewed on every sports show between now and the Super Bowl.

TV, radio, and we'll soon learn that he is the guy wearing the Burger KIng costume in all those dreadful peeping Tom ads.

Later

metirish
Jan 09 2006 02:59 PM



Best pic of the week.

Elster88
Jan 09 2006 04:42 PM

MFS62 wrote:
For the fans who don't root for Big Blew, their loss will result in us now having to suffer through more of "All Tiki, All the Time".

Now that he won't be spending his time practicing for the next game, I predict we'll be subjected to his being interviewed on every sports show between now and the Super Bowl.


I must be watching all the wrong channels. I haven't seen him interviewed once this year.

Elster88
Jan 10 2006 11:03 AM

There are only 3 games left that I care about. With the Giants out of it, I don't give a crap who wins the NFC because that team is going to get obliterated in the Super Bowl.

And I think the Indy-Pittsburgh game is going to be a blowout.

Sucks.

cooby
Jan 10 2006 11:18 AM

Yeah, sucks for the Colts

Willets Point
Jan 10 2006 11:21 AM

Ha ha. Cooby said sucks.

Elster88
Jan 13 2006 09:02 AM

Reason #4,589,046 why sportswriters are scum.

Headline on ESPN.com reads "Doctor: Palmer knee injury 'potentially career-ending'". Of course within the article it goes on to say Palmer will probably be back for the start of next season.

Can you imagine being a huge Bengal fan and reading that? I hope the extra hits that the links get are worth the increased number of strokes and heart attacks in Cinncinati and the surrounding area.

I'm also shocked that a writer would risk his career and reputation leading with a line like that purely for the sake of drawing readers.

Edgy DC
Jan 13 2006 09:13 AM

The writers don't typically write the headlines. And the editors that do are typically comfortably anonymous.

Elster88
Jan 13 2006 09:34 AM

Grrr. I'm trying to take a totally unwarranted shot at writers, can't you tell? Thanks for ruining it for me. j/k

It was also the first line in the article, so I can still blame the writer. Reader from Cincy reads the first paragraph and passes out. Comes to, reads the rest, feels better.

Willets Point
Jan 15 2006 12:23 AM

Let the unending bitching and whining throughout New England commence at once. We're loserville again!

I'll be pulling for the Steelers for my buddy's sake from here on out.

cooby
Jan 15 2006 09:29 AM

Why, thank you, Willets!

metirish
Jan 15 2006 04:23 PM

Now this is a game of football, amazing , Cooby were you celabrtating when Bettis had the ball but then got whacked and then wondering if they had fumbled the game away?, that was a great game, what a miss by the kicker though.

Congrats to Cooby and the Steelers.

ScarletKnight41
Jan 15 2006 04:37 PM

Congrats cooby - what an exciting finish!

MFS62
Jan 15 2006 04:44 PM

I wondered if Indy had come back and won they were going to call Bettis' funble the Immaculate Rejection.
But it was a great game.
Whichever AFC team wins, I'll be rooting for them in the SB. But I sure will have more confidence in the Steelers.
Congrats, Cooby.

Later

cooby
Jan 15 2006 05:22 PM

Thanks all!

Cooby were you celabrtating when Bettis had the ball but then got whacked and then wondering if they had fumbled the game away?,

lol, no we weren't celebrating yet, we know better!


I'm telling you guys, the Steelers have got it this year!




Polamalu is just frigging amazing, I think we're going to set up a shrine to him


Now we are watching the Bears game; we have known their kicker (Gould)since he was in second grade...

Frayed Knot
Jan 15 2006 05:34 PM

The biggest play of the day turns out to be Roethlethberger's tackle


As soon as Bettis coughed up that ball I was thinking that it might wind up being the last time he ever touches a football in competition. Man that woulda been a sukky way to end a HoF career!


That they overturned the call on the interception play by that long-haired Samoan dude for Pitts is fargin ridiculous even though I was pretty darn sure they were going to do just that simply based on a few of the calls last week. It's like they're going out of their way to look for microscopic evidence that some one did NOT make a catch even though common sense wisdom tells you otherwise during live action. After all, all the guy did was roll over 4 times with the ball firmly in his grasp and not lose the handle on it until he started to get up and run. So here's a case where if he had stayed down it would have stayed legal, but since he tried to do something after the point where it would have legally been ruled a catch it gets - in effect - retroactively ruled a non-catch (as opposed to a catch then a fumble) because his knee was (supposedly) still in contract with the blades of (fake) grass when it came loose.
The replay rule - and it's application mind-set - is just one of many things that bugs me about this sport.

cooby
Jan 15 2006 05:53 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:

...That they overturned the call on the interception play by that long-haired Samoan dude for Pitts is fargin ridiculous ... .



Between that, and Bettis' fumble, I was beginning to think that God doesn't love the Steelers after all.

Now I know he does!

Elster88
Jan 15 2006 09:19 PM

I'm so glad that Vanderjagt missed that kick. He talks too much.

Willets Point
Jan 16 2006 12:49 AM

cooby wrote:
Why, thank you, Willets!


I was actually refering to one of my best friends who is a Steelers fan, but you're my buddy too.

Frayed Knot
Jan 16 2006 09:26 AM

Elster88 wrote:
I'm so glad that Vanderjagt missed that kick. He talks too much.


I wonder if he was "all liquored up"?

Elster88
Jan 16 2006 02:16 PM

M&MD made the same point I made yesterday. Manning looked terrified of getting hit all day yesterday, right from the first pass play.

HahnSolo
Jan 16 2006 02:23 PM

What's with FG kickers in the divisional round against Pittsburgh? Last year, Doug Brien missed two game-winners, and now Vanderjerk.

I was happy for Cowher, though. He's lost a lot of tough games at home. Nice of him to win one on the road.

Elster88
Jan 16 2006 02:25 PM

For all of Vanderjagt's skill, his streak, and the indoor stadium, a 46-yarder to tie the game is no chip shot. Neither was Brien's second kick last year. Kickers miss big kicks all the time, except Vinatieri. It's not limited to the teams facing Pittsburgh.
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HahnSolo
Jan 16 2006 02:53 PM

I know. I just thought it was interesting that the Steelers have basically survived three late kicks in the same divisional round the last two years.

Elster88
Jan 16 2006 02:56 PM

True. It's even weirder because people look at the Steelers as an unlucky franchise because of all the AFC Championship games they lost.

Pittsburgh fans don't like to think that they actually lost all those games because the other team was better, and they don't like to think that Pittsburgh was lucky to get to that AFC title game in the first place.

cooby
Jan 16 2006 08:12 PM

My only regret is that Tony Dungy had to go home to such a sad situation.

A heartbreaking crash ending to a wonderful Colts season, up until a few weeks ago.

Rockin' Doc
Jan 16 2006 08:46 PM

Congratulations to the Steelers on their win against the Colts. Their were few outside of the Pittsburgh metropolitan area that gave the Steelers much of a chance of winning in Indianapolis. A great win for Pittsburgh, their defense was amazing. Bettis made it exciting in the end.

The Carolina Panthers beat the Bears in Chicago to avenge an earlier defeat during the regular season. The Panthers advance to take on the Seahawks in Seattle for the NFC championship game. After losing DeShaun Foster to a broken ankle, the big question for the Panthers will be whether third string running back Nick Goings can offer enough of a rushing threat to offer some balance to the offense. If the Panthers are unable to rush the ball with some success, it will likely be a long afternoon for them in Seattle.

PatchyFogg
Jan 16 2006 10:03 PM

So, we had “The Fight Doctor” Ferdie Pacheco on with us the other night on my totally commercial-free, absolutely no one makes a dime from it, Long Island Sports Talk radio show.

He’s had a fascinating life—from pharmacist to doctor to Ali’s cornerman to Emmy-winning boxing analyst. But, we did not expect him to get onto the topic of football. Well, he did.

He’s written 17 books and hundreds of short stories. His latest short story apparently involves Vince Young, using gambling in the NFL as its plot device.

Dr. Pacheco alleges that a lot of NFL games are fixed, both by the players and the refs themselves. Among other things, he claims that George Blanda would openly brag about all the games that he was throwing, when he was an active player.

And, most importantly for our purposes here, he claims that several of the Baltimore Colts were his patients and told him that he could take the game "flat, no points" in Super Bowl III and that the biggest bookmaker in Vegas told them to “leave the game alone...because it’s rotten.” He then discusses that game (at which he was in attendance) in detail to make his point.

You can listen to the football-specific stuff (11 minutes) or the whole interview (49 minutes) at http://hosted.filefront.com/patchyfogg

Frayed Knot
Jan 16 2006 10:25 PM

Pacheco's an interesting guy for sure but I didn't believe a word of what he was saying about NFL fixes. Once upon a time maybe when the league was smaller and money was scarce. But the money's too high these days to the point where there's no logical way to make it happen and still be able to turn a betting profit on it which, of course, is the only reason to fix something.

The NFL may be hiding a bunch of unsavory things beneath their glitzy exterior but I don't think outright corruption is one of them.

seawolf17
Jan 17 2006 09:38 AM

I agree, but boyohboy did that whole INT/not INT thing look shady in the Colts-Steelers game.

Elster88
Jan 17 2006 09:57 AM

]Their were few outside of the Pittsburgh metropolitan area that gave the Steelers much of a chance of winning in Indianapolis.


Few enough rational minds inside the Pittsburgh metropolitan area gave them a chance. No one, myself included, expected Peyton Manning to take a huge dump all over himself in the playoffs again.

All due respect to the Pittsburgh defense, they fooled the hell out of Manning with their different looks (More than enough evidence in my mind that no QB should be in charge of play calling. It's not Peyton's fault, each team has twenty different guys with binoculars studying the field. It looked like Pittsburgh had one guy who's only job was to pull the pictures out of the printer as they were developed.) But Manning was playing like a scared rabbit all game.

cooby
Jan 17 2006 09:59 AM

Gotta admit, going for it on fourth down was the right call though. Even I thought so, and I'm a Steelers fan

Elster88
Jan 17 2006 10:00 AM

That wasn't Peyton's choice, they called that in from the sideline. Heard Dungy on the radio yesterday.

cooby
Jan 17 2006 10:01 AM

Aaahhh, a fakeout then. I wondered at the time. Makes for good drama

Elster88
Jan 17 2006 10:02 AM

I was surprised to hear it too. Manning is often seen waving the punter off the field and I just always figured he was doing it in an attempt to be a stud.

Johnny Dickshot
Jan 17 2006 10:04 AM

IMO, going for it on 4th down is almost always the right play, it's just that NFL coaches are too wussy to try it. At least, if you're at your own, say, 40 or closer.

Strap 'em on, trust your D, be creative. They will stop the opposition from scoring *some* of the time, and *some* of the time, the O be successful. I suspect the latter some could be greater than the former some, if only coaches had balls.

cooby
Jan 17 2006 10:06 AM

Well that's just it, it's not like the Colts offense is pathetic. In a playoff game, you've gotta go for it, especially when you've got time left.

Elster88
Jan 17 2006 10:06 AM

I have to disagree (in general, not with this particular play). Field positioning can be a huge part of the game. Stick the other team on the five yard line.

Johnny Dickshot
Jan 17 2006 10:24 AM

BORRRR-ING!
BORRRR-ING!
BORRRR-ING!

Nymr83
Jan 17 2006 11:37 AM

i think when you're losing by more than 8 in the 4th quarter you'd be crazy NOT to go for 4th and short anywhere on the field and 4th and anything past the 40 or so.

there were some BS calls this weekend starting with Polamalu's INT being overturned, the non-call when the Indy defense jumped offsides pointing, the PI call on Samuel, etc. I definetaly got the distinct impression that the fix was on and the refs were trying to first help the Colts and then keep the game from ending...as i said to my friend when the INT was overturned, they did it because if thats a pick then half the TVs go off.

cooby
Jan 17 2006 11:43 AM

Nymr83 wrote:
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, the non-call when the Indy defense jumped offsides pointing



I forgot about that...it was weird that there was no penalty for either side on that.

Elster88
Jan 17 2006 11:52 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jan 17 2006 11:55 AM

]the fix was on


*sigh*

Who shot Kennedy? My favorite idiot conspiracy theory is that the driver turned around and shot Kennedy in the face.

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Anyway.

I think the Polamalu play is very interesting. The interception being overturned was actually the correct call as stated in the rule book. His knee was still down when he lost the ball so it was an incomplete pass. Even though it looked like an interception, and by common sense should have been an interception, the officials have to go by the book.

I know the NFL has issued a statement saying the call was wrong. Smells of damage control to me, as they're just trying to end the discussion now that the outcome wasn't affected. I imagine the rule on the books will be changed in the offseason. I reiterate: If the Colts had won there is not one chance in a million that the NFL would have issued that statement that the call was wrong. They would've defended the refs to the death with the (correct) reasoning above. But instead, the NFL front office is throwing the refs to the wolves instead of admitting that they have a faulty rule on the books.

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Elster88
Jan 17 2006 11:52 AM

This is another reason to thank the almighty football gods that Pittsburgh won, becuase otherwise for the rest of eternity thousands of bandwagon-jumpers would be crying about this. (Think the way Oakland fans cry about the Tuck Rule----another rule interpereted correctly according to the rule book at the time----times 1,000 to account for the "die-hard" Steeler "fans" across the country.*)



* Before anyone gets offended, please realize that I am generalizing here. The Steeler fan base includes a huge population of bandwagoners. I am not talking about anyone specifically. I realize that there are true Steeler fans out there. Thank you for your time and patience.**

** I hate having to add this disclaimer, but it's easier than doing so after the fact.

cooby
Jan 17 2006 12:00 PM

No offense taken :)

Elster88
Jan 17 2006 12:07 PM

]Next week will be the first time in five years that the conference championship round will be Eagles- and Patriots-free. Which is a shame, really. I never felt that we got to hear enough about those two teams. They kind of flew under the radar a bit on us, didn't they? But as disastrous as Philadelphia's season was this year, it must be nice for the Eagles to experience the month of January without being weighed down with an overwhelming sense of impending doom.

MFS62
Jan 17 2006 12:11 PM

Last Saturday night, wifey, daughter and I were in a Mexican restaurant in Brookfield, CT and the family at the table next to us was all wearing Steelers' jerseys.
(Whatever that contributes to the bandwagon-jumping-on discussion)

Later

cooby
Jan 17 2006 12:14 PM

Now, THAT might be bandwaggoning.


We probably have as much or more Steelers stuff around our house as we do Mets and Indians, so I guess you could say we are true blue (black and gold?) fans. My husband in particular, who could probably name every player that ever played for them, and maybe what school they went to

Frayed Knot
Jan 17 2006 01:07 PM

"I know the NFL has issued a statement saying the call was wrong. Smells of damage control to me, as they're just trying to end the discussion now that the outcome wasn't affected."

AB-so-Fuckin-lutely!
The league protects the refs to the nth degree ususally. This way they get to "address" the controvery while changing nothing. No way do they do this if the game went the other way.



"I imagine the rule on the books will be changed in the offseason."

I dunno, they reviewed and KEPT the "tuck rule" after a post-season review. They also didn't say (or maybe I just didn't hear) whether the call was wrong because the ref misinterpretted the replay (ie. his knee WAS off the ground when he kicked the ball out of his own grasp) or whether the rule was mis-applied.


"I reiterate: If the Colts had won there is not one chance in a million that the NFL would have issued that statement that the call was wrong. They would've defended the refs to the death with the (correct) reasoning above. But instead, the NFL front office is throwing the refs to the wolves instead of admitting that they have a faulty rule on the books."

Y'know, all these complaints - from both fans & media - about the officiating over the last few weeks and what "the league should do about it" crack me up. It's the league, along with it's sometimes goofy rules and policies (like deciding whether they want to increase or supress scoring), that are the real source. Seeing the league as the solution to the problems is tough when they're actually the cause of many of them.

Willets Point
Jan 17 2006 01:26 PM

Elster88 wrote:


*sigh*

Who shot Kennedy? My favorite idiot conspiracy theory is that the driver turned around and shot Kennedy in the face.


My favorite is the "Aristotle Onassis killed Kennedy to get Jackie" theory.

Centerfield
Jan 17 2006 04:53 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2005/01/17/bc.fbn.heart.stoppingst.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

Elster88
Jan 17 2006 04:58 PM

So at what point should you let someone know they take sports too seriously?

cooby
Jan 17 2006 05:00 PM

I think we can safely say that he's not a bandwagoner...

HahnSolo
Jan 18 2006 12:34 PM

"The Steelers won the game and I'm still alive, so I guess I'm doing pretty good."

Nice to see how he places his priorities.

Elster88
Jan 19 2006 11:36 PM

Mike Vanderjagt is on Letterman tonight.

cooby
Jan 20 2006 10:57 AM

What did he have to say?

Elster88
Jan 20 2006 11:02 AM

Not much. They talked over the game a little bit. They reenacted the 46 yarder on 53rd(?) street. Letterman took the snap from the long snapper. Pretty mundane.

cooby
Jan 22 2006 01:38 PM

Today's halftime menu:

(Roethlis)bergers and peorogies. Yeah, we're pretty weird.
Cripes, I bet I haven't had perogies in 25 years. You will note, I am not even sure how to spell them.

Velvet pants are in place.

KC
Jan 22 2006 01:41 PM

Perogies ... mmmmmm

metirish
Jan 22 2006 04:28 PM

Cooby it's halftime, I bet you'll enjoy them even more with this score, Steelers are killing Denver...

KC
Jan 22 2006 04:36 PM

Steelers up by three touchdowns at the half on the road are looking like
a team of destiny. That last touchdown turned away and then on the next
play the ball goes through the defenders arms? R'berger takes an awful lot
of awkward looking chances ... but it's working.

And how cool is The Bus?

Iubitul
Jan 22 2006 05:28 PM

KC wrote:
And how cool is The Bus?

not at all - he's a freaking Steeler. Steelers are one figure to the right of Yankees on the evolutionary scale.

KC
Jan 22 2006 05:47 PM

>>>Steelers are one figure to the right of Yankees on the evolutionary scale<<<

And the Cowboys are 3/4 of one figure to the right - ouch. You floated one,
I had to take a cut lol.

cooby
Jan 22 2006 06:17 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 22 2006 08:36 PM

lubitol's the guy who likes girls basketball, right? heheh

cooby
Jan 22 2006 06:20 PM

KC wrote:
And how cool is The Bus?



Cool indeed, KC!

I wish he were a Met...

Iubitul
Jan 22 2006 06:46 PM

KC wrote:
>>>Steelers are one figure to the right of Yankees on the evolutionary scale<<<

And the Cowboys are 3/4 of one figure to the right - ouch. You floated one,
I had to take a cut lol.


You forgot about the Roger Staubach factor, which pulls the rest of the dreck up...

ScarletKnight41
Jan 22 2006 07:13 PM

Carolina is looking pretty bad in the first quarter in Seattle.

Rockin' Doc
Jan 22 2006 08:35 PM

They didn't look much better in the second quarter, either.

metirish
Jan 22 2006 08:38 PM

Cooby if the Steelers win the Super Bowl you might have to put those velvet pants for sale on EBAY, them being the lucky ones and all...

cooby
Jan 22 2006 08:39 PM

lol...that's a good idea!


Maybe I oughta send them down south really really quickly for Hottie to wear for the rest of this game tonight

Rockin' Doc
Jan 22 2006 08:47 PM

I'm sure they wouldn't fit me.

The Panthers aren't looking any good in the third quarter either.

TheOldMole
Jan 22 2006 09:48 PM

What kind of a name is Randle El?

MFS62
Jan 23 2006 08:31 AM

Its the answer to the question by an ex-Met infielder named Lenny, who asked "What subway line do I take to Yankee Stadium?"

Later

metirish
Jan 23 2006 09:15 AM

Kobe scored 81 points for Lakers yesterday....and very few people care.

Elster88
Jan 23 2006 09:29 AM

Especially in the NFL thread. [/threadcop]

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2006 09:50 AM

metirish wrote:
Kobe scored 81 points for Lakers yesterday....and very few people care.


Actually, ESPN led off it's morning 'SportsCenter' with Kobe, pushing those two football game things back 5 minutes or so.

Of course if I were a cynic I might think that had something to do with ESPN having rights to NBA hoops and their desire to hype Kobe as the star of their programming for the next 4 months ... but far be it from me to accuse the ESPN/ABC/Disney crowd of slipping into crass self-promotion.

MFS62
Jan 23 2006 11:05 AM

Weird stuff I was thinking about driving to work today:
The Steelers are an original NFL team that was moved to the AFC after the merger.
The Seahowks were an AFL (AFC) expansion team that was moved to the NFC a few years ago.

For those of us who were AFL fans, this is a puzzler about who to root for.
But my tiebreaker is the fact that Cowher is the only coach of the final four teams who ever has a smile on his face, even when things are going badly during a game. By contrast, that Seahawks guy looks like he would have a scowl on his face if he won the Lottery.

Go Steelers.

Later

sharpie
Jan 23 2006 11:47 AM

MFS, earlier you wrote that you went for teams nearer to NY. This makes the Steelers the don't-think-about-it favorite.

I latched onto them during the Bengal game. Go Steelers.

MFS62
Jan 23 2006 11:56 AM

sharpie wrote:
MFS, earlier you wrote that you went for teams nearer to NY. This makes the Steelers the don't-think-about-it favorite.

I latched onto them during the Bengal game. Go Steelers.


I believe that was in a college sports thread (basketball or football). But it makes sense here, too.
Thanks.
Good memory.

Later

cooby
Jan 23 2006 12:53 PM

MFS62 wrote:
Weird stuff I was thinking about driving to work today:
The Steelers are an original NFL team that was moved to the AFC after the merger.
The Seahowks were an AFL (AFC) expansion team that was moved to the NFC a few years ago.

For those of us who were AFL fans, this is a puzzler about who to root for.
But my tiebreaker is the fact that Cowher is the only coach of the final four teams who ever has a smile on his face, even when things are going badly during a game. By contrast, that Seahawks guy looks like he would have a scowl on his face if he won the Lottery.

Go Steelers.

Later


Yeah, but when Cowher is mad, he sticks that ol' jaw out there and it is very funny.
But you're right, he really seems to enjoy his job and his players

Elster88
Jan 23 2006 12:56 PM

The AFC 6 seed beating the NFC 1 seed in the Super Bowl would probably drive home the disparity between the two conferences.


I'm rooting for Pittsburgh just for that. And I can't stand most* of their fan base.

*DISCLAIMER: Usage of the word "most".

Willets Point
Jan 23 2006 01:04 PM

Wasn't it just a few years ago when people were saying that the NFC championship game decided the Super Bowl winner? I guess the change came with the Broncos back in '98.

cooby
Jan 23 2006 01:07 PM

The other day when I was dusting, I came across a little book of pictures that my son took at Heinz Field a couple of years ago when he and his dad went out to a game for his birthday present.

One of them was Maddox! I had managed to forget all about that loser. The point is, Rothlesberger is the difference-maker on the Steelers.

Elster88
Jan 23 2006 01:57 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 23 2006 02:21 PM

Willets Point wrote:
Wasn't it just a few years ago when people were saying that the NFC championship game decided the Super Bowl winner? I guess the change came with the Broncos back in '98.


I think the NFC had won 14 in a row prior to that game. (Raiders in '84?)

Edit: grammar

Centerfield
Jan 23 2006 02:15 PM

I think Mike Shanahan kinda looks like a smart version of George Bush.

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2006 02:24 PM

Yeah and the AL has won 6 of the last 8 WS too (4 times by sweeps) but I don't think that alone makes them the better league.

Even when the NFC was dominating Soup Bowls in those years it was mostly because they always seemed to have the best TOP teams (Dallas, Giants, Niners) while not neccessarily having the best conference. So much of the time the NFC game was being dubbed "The Real" SB, the AFC was winning a majority of the inter-conference games would often have something like 7 of the best overall 10 teams in the league, just rarely the cream of the crop.
Not sure how the inter-division games have been going the past few years but I'd be surprised if the AFC is winning more often now then they did even as they were losing all those SBs.

I think baseball been in a similar state over the last half-decade or so;
the AL has recently tended to have MLB's best 1 or 2 teams but also the bigger share of it's bottom-feeders - something which :stretches" their standings out a bit creating even a larger gap betweent eh haves and have-nots. The NL, meanwhile, has been finding it's team more squashed towards the center of the pack even as it usually (although not this past year) comes out better in interleague play.

Elster88
Jan 23 2006 02:27 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Yeah and the AL has won 6 of the last 8 WS too (4 times by sweeps) but I don't think that alone makes them the better league.


I wasn't making the analogous conclusion about the NFL conferences either.

My conclusion is: The AFC is better in 2005-2006 because the six teams that made the playoffs are all better than any team in the NFC.

cooby
Jan 28 2006 09:13 AM






One more week to wait, Jerome.


(those have got to be some big jeans)

cooby
Feb 02 2006 09:51 PM

And the final week winds down in Pennsylvania with daily reports on Jerome Bettis and his parents' activities in Detroit.

I love it!


Did you know Punxatawney Phil was wearing a Terrible Towel?

Elster88
Feb 02 2006 11:16 PM

Bettis is a fat pig.

But he is a very nice man, I'll admit.

cooby
Feb 02 2006 11:19 PM

Mr. Perfect was very large, too. Ahem.


Elster, the article tonight was about this HUGE feed the Bettises put on for the team in their home last night, and one of the lines alluded to Jerome's...er...girth, and how he got that way.

Elster88
Feb 02 2006 11:24 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 02 2006 11:35 PM

Perfect is all muscle, baby. You know why? Because he's perfect.

cooby
Feb 02 2006 11:31 PM

That's MISTER Perfect, punk

Frayed Knot
Feb 02 2006 11:32 PM

I'm sorry but I don't even see how football fans can listen to all the nonsense surrounding this game. There's just simply not that much to talk about but no one it seems can resist trying. I mean these shows have a parade of guests on to "breakdown" a game that hasn't happened yet and there's only so many ways you can ask different people the same things:
- so, who do ya like in the big game?
- so how do you see this game turning out?
- so what do you see happening this Sunday?

Even the media seems bored with it all while desperately trying not to say so.
It's gotten so bad that when a couple of players started with the inevitable smack talking in the last day or so the collective media wet themselves trying to build it into something.

Elster88
Feb 02 2006 11:33 PM

I don't imagine I'll ever read another football article in the two weeks prior to the Super Bowl unless the Jets are in it. Then I'll be reading everything and cursing the name of anyone with the audacity to talk trash to the Jets.

Elster88
Feb 02 2006 11:34 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 02 2006 11:35 PM

cooby wrote:
That's MISTER Perfect, punk


Yes!!

cooby's posting-approval rating: 100%.

cooby
Feb 02 2006 11:35 PM

It's good natured as it gets this year. But my lucky pants are ready for the action

Elster88
Feb 02 2006 11:37 PM

It's all good, my post calling Bettis fat was merely a completely unjustified swipe at all of the hype around Bettis. But it is a better story than you usually get in the sporting world.

Like I said, if this was the Jets right now I'd be posting about 50 pics a day.

cooby
Feb 02 2006 11:39 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 02 2006 11:39 PM

No hard feelings, if you lived in PA, you would adore him too. We all do. There is nothing but Jerome in our paper, and we live 125 miles from Pittsburgh


Edit: It's a nice change from Alan Iverson

Frayed Knot
Feb 02 2006 11:39 PM

Oh, and I heard somewhere that Jerome Bettis is from Detroit and he likes to bring his parents to his games.
Can anyone confirm this?

cooby
Feb 02 2006 11:41 PM

lol, yeah, I think I"ve heard that

MFS62
Feb 03 2006 09:27 AM

I wonder if Aretha Franklin will have a clothing malfunction.
I also wonder if the viewing audience could withstand an Aretha Franklin clothing malfunction.

Later

cooby
Feb 06 2006 08:30 PM



CHAMPS!!

ScarletKnight41
Feb 06 2006 08:32 PM

Congrats cooby!

cooby
Feb 06 2006 08:39 PM



"Thanks, Scarlet! Wanna hold this a minute?"

GYC
Feb 06 2006 08:41 PM

Any word on the size of the check that went to Leavy?

cooby
Feb 06 2006 08:43 PM



Your Super Bowl 40 MVP




This guy is just fricking beautiful





Who says Bill Cowher has a grumpy face? :)




Ha Ha you can't catch him, ya buncha grapes

cooby
Feb 06 2006 08:44 PM

GYC wrote:
Any word on the size of the check that went to Leavy?



Hmmm a Seahawks fan

ScarletKnight41
Feb 06 2006 08:52 PM

cooby wrote:


"Thanks, Scarlet! Wanna hold this a minute?"



LOL - I'd have some 'splaining to do if I'm holding that when my in-laws fly in from Washington later this week.

Oh what the heck - send it over!

;)

cooby
Feb 06 2006 08:55 PM

Oops, forgot about them heheh

GYC
Feb 06 2006 08:57 PM

cooby wrote:
="GYC"]Any word on the size of the check that went to Leavy?



Hmmm a Seahawks fan

Nah, just playing with you. As much as the refs called a one-sided game, the Hawks killed themselves and would have lost regardless.

cooby
Feb 06 2006 09:12 PM

You know, for the life of me I do not remember that play and I only remember leaving the room once, to go clean my glasses.

My husband swears I was sitting there

metirish
Feb 06 2006 09:20 PM

Cooby do you know anything about this item I found on EBAY? :)

cooby
Feb 06 2006 09:21 PM

Those pants looks like they'd fit Jerome...

TheOldMole
Feb 06 2006 09:24 PM

Did this Super Bowl set the all-time record for most letters in the names of the two starting quarterbacks?

GYC
Feb 06 2006 09:24 PM

cooby wrote:
You know, for the life of me I do not remember that play and I only remember leaving the room once, to go clean my glasses.

My husband swears I was sitting there

Which play?

cooby
Feb 06 2006 09:26 PM

Some Seahawk touchdown that got called back And then they got a field goal. Missed it all.

metirish
Feb 06 2006 10:12 PM

Great pic here....Willie Parker makes his great run

Frayed Knot
Feb 06 2006 10:17 PM

Mediocre game at best.
Poor QBing (particularly by Pitts), poorly officiated (mostly in favor of Pitts), bad time mgmt (Sea), mediocre commercials.

Best thing about the SB is that I usually watch it w/my softball playing buds and we spend the game talking baseball.

cooby
Feb 06 2006 10:51 PM

Whatever, dude

Elster88
Feb 07 2006 09:54 AM

It's a good thing for the Steelers that the Bus is retiring.

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 07 2006 10:12 AM

I told you guys it was all about the razzle-dazzle.

Randle-El's pass was awesome -- thrown on the run, perfect spiral, hit the guy in stride.

Hopefully the NFL learns that exciting complicated gadget plays pay off big-time.

Edgy DC
Feb 07 2006 11:01 AM

As risky as such plays are, in a league where many coaches have more job security than their players, why not try high-risk-high-reward plays?

Seattle lost on turnovers, yeah, but they also lost because they threw forty wiimpy passes into the flat.

metirish
Feb 07 2006 11:44 AM

Elster88
Feb 07 2006 12:38 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
As risky as such plays are, in a league where many coaches have more job security than their players, why not try high-risk-high-reward plays?


Because very few of them have a wide receiver or running back who can throw even half as well as Randle-El.

Edgy DC
Feb 07 2006 12:40 PM

Well, other types of risky plays then. Dickshot is right.

If I'm a coach, I'm routinely going for it on fouth and three or less if I'm past my own 40.

PifL.

seawolf17
Feb 07 2006 12:43 PM

Maybe it's just the old-skool-Madden-99 player in me, but I love going for it on fourth and short, fake punts, flea-flickers... keeps the other team on their toes.

HahnSolo
Feb 07 2006 01:05 PM

Tom Landry ran trick plays all the time. It worked out pretty well for him.

seawolf17
Feb 07 2006 01:10 PM

Nuts. Hahn discovered my real identity.

Elster88
Feb 07 2006 01:44 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Well, other types of risky plays then. Dickshot is right.

If I'm a coach, I'm routinely going for it on fouth and three or less if I'm past my own 40.

PifL.


I think history has shown that going for it on fourth and short as opposed to punting it does not work out.

And a defensive struggle in football is just as interesting as a high scoring game. I equate being able to appreciate a field position game in football with appreciating a pitcher's duel.

The reason that field position battles SEEM so boring is because every punt is used as an excuse for a ten minute TV-timeout. Remove that and the game has the same flow whether there are 20 punts or 2 punts in the game.

As for Madden, it's much more fun to go for it on fourth down because playing defense sucks on Madden. Even when you don't make it, that means your opponent is going to score quicker and you'll get the ball back faster.

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 07 2006 01:50 PM

Elster88 wrote:
I think history has shown that going for it on fourth and short as opposed to punting it does not work out.


Really? I'd guess NFL coaches are such wusses that there's not nearly enough data to confirm it one way or the other.

Elster88
Feb 07 2006 02:19 PM

I have only anecdotal evidence to supply. I'd be interested in a full study.

I'd be interested in reading a full study at least, not in writing one.

Nymr83
Feb 07 2006 02:31 PM

Elster88 wrote:

And a defensive struggle in football is just as interesting as a high scoring game. I equate being able to appreciate a field position game in football with appreciating a pitcher's duel.

The reason that field position battles SEEM so boring is because every punt is used as an excuse for a ten minute TV-timeout. Remove that and the game has the same flow whether there are 20 punts or 2 punts in the game.

As for Madden, it's much more fun to go for it on fourth down because playing defense sucks on Madden. Even when you don't make it, that means your opponent is going to score quicker and you'll get the ball back faster.




agreed that the TV-timeouts are what ruin punting-centric games.
As for madden, your % chance of getting the first on 4th and under 2 seems to be about 80%, if it was that high in real life they'd go for it too.
also, try changing the camera angle so that you can see everything past the line of scrimmage and then take control of the MLB or FS in a zone... trying to pick passes off is alot more fun than playing the boring D-line.

metirish
Feb 07 2006 02:47 PM

What made the gadget play great apart from the throw and all that was that we knew it was coming at some point, Madden told us so, and if he knew and we knew it had to be frustrating for Seattle who probably knew too but couldn't stop it.

Elster88
Feb 07 2006 02:54 PM

To be fair to the Seahawks, it was going to be hard to stop that play. IIRC, they ran the reverse and it got stuffed by the corner. So he came flying up again when he saw the reverse, but instead the pass was thrown. And obviously, the safety was beaten, but enough so that it took an almost perfect ball to make the play. I've seen plenty of quarterbacks who haven't made as good a throw: on the run, hitting Ward in stride over the sideline shoulder.

If a regular (regular being non-Randle-El) wideout makes that throw, the throw is probably short or more of an airball, so the d-back was probably in good enough position to break it up.

Frayed Knot
Feb 07 2006 03:28 PM

]I think history has shown that going for it on fourth and short as opposed to punting it does not work out


There was a piece a month or two back in that NYTimes "Keeping Score" column, their stats-oriented column that appears each Sunday in the sports section. Their claim was that the number crunching indicates NFL coaches are far too conservative in 4th-&-short situations and would benefit in the long run by "going for it" more often ... though obviously not every time.

Personally I've always had a big problem with the ultra-conservative mindset that seems to inhabit most NFL coaches. It's not just that gadget plays are 'fun to watch', or even a case of low vs high scoring, it's just that it represents the "play not to lose" attitude that I find boring in just about any sport and much of it, I fear, stems from not wanting to be second-guessed if/when these slightly exotic plays fail. Coaches kept the 2-pt conversion out of the NFL for decades for that very reason.
Seattle running ridiculously conservative plays (and taking their sweet-ass time doing so) while down in a final game with time running out in both halves is just the primo example of it all.

Elster88
Feb 07 2006 03:40 PM

I think the last was due to stupidity more than to a deliberate adherence to a conservative mindset.

Frayed Knot
Feb 07 2006 04:32 PM

Agreed, but they were also throwing 5-yd outs (and often failing to get out-of-bounds but that's a seperate problem) during the last drive as if ball control were the way to go there rather than risk something out of the ordinary even as they were down at least 2 scores in the closing minutes of the championship game.

Coaches of the NFL open up your playbooks, you have nothing to lose but your obsession with moving chains!!

Elster88
Feb 07 2006 05:33 PM

I guess, but I thought the 5 yard outs were the safety valve in case the play broke down. That's why I blame those on the QB. If nothing's open, don't throw it to the last option at the end of the game; throw it into the stands.

Rockin' Doc
Feb 07 2006 11:51 PM

I believe it was reported during the game that Shaun Alexander had been 16 of 16 on third and one or fourth and one conversions on the season. Yet, when Seattle had an opportunity to go for such a play, Holmgren opted to punt it away to the Steelers. I know the Steelers have a tremendous defense, but you have to be willing to take some chances. With the Seahawks history in such situations, it actually doesn't seem like it would have been too big of a gamble.

Both at the end of the half and the end of the game, Seattle's offense seemed confused and clueless in their play calling. I believe Holmgren calls the plays himself, so he has no one to balme for the poor clock management in crucial situations.

There were some very questionable calls in the game. The NFL needs to improve the overall quality of their officiating crews. I believe the NFL needs to explore developing officials that do this for a living rather than as a sideline. The shorter season (in number of games) probably does make the expense harder to justify than for baseball, but the officiating in the playoffs wasn't of the standard that the league should aspire to in my opinion.

Elster88
Feb 08 2006 07:51 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Feb 08 2006 03:42 PM

I don't see how making them full-time refs helps. When no games are going on, how are they supposed to get better?

Edit: Why the f--- do I always put "know" when I should put "no"? Am I American or just retarded?

Edgy DC
Feb 08 2006 07:57 AM

Holmgren is coming off rather pissy still contesting the officiating. What particular calls are still being contested? The pushoff in the endzone was the right call from my eyes. They were also given an over-rule on a dubious call on the fumble from the ground.

Is there anybody in America who appreciates the intended nuance of the "He has to make a football move" rule? Whoever wrote that (probably with the best of intentions) must have egg on his face from sunup to sundown every damn day. I'm betting that rule is gone by game one next season.

cooby
Feb 08 2006 08:12 AM

Edgy DC wrote:
Holmgren is coming off rather pissy still contesting the officiating. .



He is, isn't he? I'd be embarrassed to be a Seattle fan.

Elster88
Feb 08 2006 08:37 AM

This was the first Super Bowl that I actually believe that if two of four calls go the other way the losing team wins. One of those four (the holding penalty on Locklear) was definitely a mistake. The others were at least fifty-fifty.

Not, the losing team could have won....that's every game in football. The losing team [u:a19b19d86a]would[/u:a19b19d86a] have won.

But Holmgren should STFU already. He fucked the game up six ways from Sunday.

MFS62
Feb 08 2006 12:54 PM

During the victory parade in Pittsburgh yesterday, three penalties were called on Seattle.

Later

HahnSolo
Feb 08 2006 01:09 PM

]One of those four (the holding penalty on Locklear) was definitely a mistake. The others were at least fifty-fifty.

Not, the losing team could have won....that's every game in football. The losing team would have won.


Not sure you can make that leap. The Jackson PI call, which as Edgy points out was correct, only cost them four points, as they kicked a FG anyway. The Big Ben TD was impossible to overturn anyway you look at it. And they still would have had a fourth down to try to punch it in. The Locklear call was bad, however it would have set them up first and goal. There's no guarantee of a touchdown there, though, and even if they did get a TD, they would only have had a 17-14 lead with a lot of time left.

Nymr83
Feb 08 2006 01:44 PM

the penalty on Hasselbeck was clearly the biggest mistake, you are ALLOWED to hit the ball carrier low, just not the blocker. he didnt touch the blocker and got flagged for doing so.

Frayed Knot
Feb 08 2006 03:04 PM

MFS62 wrote:
During the victory parade in Pittsburgh yesterday, three penalties were called on Seattle.


I also think giving the refs their own float in the parade was a bit too much.




Count me in the camp where the full-time refs idea is all wet.
There are those who'll claim that the reason the NFL doesn't want full-timers is that the refs will go all union on them and they'll have to pay them more than they are now. But just what are these guys going to do for the other 6 days in the week and the other 7 months of the year? It's not like watching film ad infinitum is going to change things.
Besides, the sometimes goofy NFL rules are as big a culprit here as is bad judgement. The "tuck rule" call, the Palomalomalomalo non-interception call, the "football move" calls, these "break the plane" or "hit the pylon" calls, and so on are all examples of where the refs are interpreting correctly (at least potentially) the rules as they're written. That the public doesn't like the results of these calls is only sometimes the fault of the zebras.

And don't get me started on the effects or the replay ...

Edgy DC
Feb 08 2006 03:06 PM

If the Stones had asked me, I'd have advised them to reference the 1981 tour, and put Mick back in the Wilbert Montgomery getup he appeared in the concert film (Let's Spend the Night Together) in for the portions of the film shot at the Vet. The other thing from that tour/film they could have reprised was Keith Richards tomahawking the trespassing fan. That's always good for entertainment.

Other costumes Mick donned for that show were Paolo Rossi's (I think) soccer jersey, and this getup:

metirish
Feb 14 2006 12:59 PM

]

African Child Loves His ‘World Champion Seahawks’ T-Shirt
February 9, 2006 | Onion Sports

KAMPALA, UGANDA—10-year-old Akello Semesseke, wearing the new "World Champion Seattle Seahawks" T-shirt given to him Tuesday by an anonymous NFL-licensed promotions manufacturer, expressed his gratitude for the gift while admitting he was not familiar with the sport of American football. "The Seahawks must be as generous of heart as they are victorious on the field of whatever sport they play to share their clothing with us," said Semesseke, whose entire village was given one each of the teal and gray shirts, with one exception. "My father refused his new shirt," Semesseke explained, "because although he did need one, he felt it would be disrespectful to the World Champion Eagles, who kindly gave him both a shirt and cap last year." Semesseke added that if the Seahawks had included 80 cents a day along with the shirt, he could eat.




http://www.theonion.com/content/node/45304

cooby
Mar 02 2006 01:51 PM

I blame Scarlett's inlaws:

]Steelers Players Evacuated From Theater After Bomb Threat




Mar 1, 11:44 PM (ET)

HOMESTEAD, Pa. (AP) - Members of the Pittsburgh Steelers were evacuated from a movie theater Wednesday night after of a bomb threat interrupted a private screening of a new DVD of last month's Super Bowl victory, police said.
Authorities evacuated the Loews Cineplex at The Waterfront in Homestead after the threat was received from an anonymous caller to 911, Homestead Police Chief Chris Deasy said.

"It said there was a bomb that was going to go off at a Loews theater," Deasy said.

The caller had a male voice and made no reference to the Steelers, Deasy added.

Minutes after the call at 8:03 p.m, police escorted the players out of the theater and spent about an hour-and-a-half searching the premises using at least one bomb-sniffing dog. They found no evidence of a bomb.


An estimated 1,000 moviegoers were also told to leave the cineplex.

The players included Ben Roethlisberger, Antwaan Randle El, Jerome Bettis and Hines Ward. Hall of Fame running back Franco Harris also attended the event. Steelers spokesman Dave Lockett said they all went home after the evacuation.

ScarletKnight41
Mar 02 2006 03:16 PM

Like my in-laws would pay for a long distance call <rolling my eyes>