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Centerfield Apr 01 2014 07:26 AM

Wasn't sure if this belonged in the Victorino Thread, or the Running Thread, or the food thread, so when in doubt start a new one. Along with my running kick, I'm trying to eat healthier. So no more bacon and hash browns in the morning. No more Cuban chicken and rice for lunch. And sadly, cookies are now a sometimes food. But one can only eat so many salads. Share your healthy dishes NOW!!!! For me, breakfast is now a rotation of: Oatmeal (no sugar) with granola, strawberries and bananas. Egg white omelet, turkey, tomato and mushrooms. Two hard boiled eggs, turkey sausage. Drinks are either seltzer (which I drink a ton of), unsweetened tea, and the occasional Coke Zero. Please share any ideas. The only way I'm going to stick with this is if I can mix things up a bit.

Ceetar Apr 01 2014 07:33 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

I'm failing spectacularly right now. For me it's about portions and simply deciding what I'm going to eat and not eating anything else. I could eat a giant 'healthy' salad or veggies and rice and end up gaining weight. So trying to put on my plate only the portion I want, and not getting more. Also important is only putting on my WIFE'S plate what she's going to eat, otherwise I'll finish it, but that's getting tougher. Drinking helps though. Just staying hydrated helps with hunger some, plus if you're drinking something like tea or coffee it takes a while so you're less likely to snack. (provided you take it black) I've been trying to stick to only having a beer on days I work out. trying to tie a reward to the activity, plus beer isn't particularly unhealthy (only a few more calories than say a bag of M&Ms depending on the beer) and takes a lot longer to consume.

metirish Apr 01 2014 07:43 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

It really is amazing, since I started seeing the pounds drop from working out I started eating better.....no more sausage ,egg and cheese for breakfast, damn, wasn't that long ago I would pop down the the deli and get a sausage,egg and cheese on a hero, and get a bacon,egg and cheese.....usually just coffee...sometines with a bagal....salads for lunch.....for dinner not much has changed except the portion sizes....and as I think about it no more chocolate snacks etc.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 01 2014 07:45 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

I don;t risk going hungry at work and so just bring a shitload of fruit and veggies to work every day and leave them on my desk and I graze like a cow. Today I have pineapple, an apple, grapes, a pear, and dry black olives. I brought a salad w/ tuna for lunch. Got into the habit of eating a bowl of special K every morning to manage the sausage-egg-and-cheese alternative (it was low WW points) but I'm also now trying to remove all processed foods and have been experimenting with a hard boiled egg and raw spinach leaves.

metirish Apr 01 2014 07:49 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I don;t risk going hungry at work and so just bring a shitload of fruit and veggies to work every day and leave them on my desk and I graze like a cow. Today I have pineapple, an apple, grapes, a pear, and dry black olives. I brought a salad w/ tuna for lunch. I like this idea.....I bought one of those Nu Wave Oven things(don't laugh) a while back...cooks chicken really amazing and veg....a lot healthier ....plus it does it in half the time.....stopped eating late at night too..

Ceetar Apr 01 2014 07:52 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Got into the habit of eating a bowl of special K every morning to manage the sausage-egg-and-cheese alternative (it was low WW points) but I'm also now trying to remove all processed foods and have been experimenting with a hard boiled egg and raw spinach leaves. That work for you? I briefly tried going all "whole grain cereals, etc" and all I found was myself uncomfortably hungry at like 10am. I tried hard boiled eggs a couple of times, but found I was too lazy to actually prepare them in the morning. maybe if I peeled the night before.. I did find a Lara fruit and nut bar worked pretty well and is probably less than half the calories of a bagel. The trick is I guess is that everyone's different and try to find food and activities that keep you from consuming more calories than you burn off.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 01 2014 08:01 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Only 2 days into the egg thing, so we'll see how it goes. We happened to have a few in the fridge. Seems to me it ought to be easy since you can hard-boil enough for the week in one go. It's just a matter of making time for it. I should say, I also came across some good snacky stuff at that trade show I was at recently and ate through weeks worth of free samples. These are great!

themetfairy Apr 01 2014 08:48 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

For me, I think that virtually giving up fried foods has been the biggest difference in my life. Not completely (deprivation is bound to have a rebellion effect), but for the most part. When I'm eating out I substitute a vegetable or fruit for potatoes, or opt for rice instead of fries, etc. As Lunchbucket said, grazing on safe foods is a good strategy. Sometimes you just need to eat without thinking, so having fruits and vegetables handy as go to snacks is helpful. Grape tomatoes are my best friend when I just need something to munch on, and at yesterday's tailgate party I had a lot of sliced peppers around (in different colors, which psychologically made them seem more satisfying). Just reading nutrition labels is a huge thing. When you see that one item has triple the calories of another, it helps you make better choices. I remember last summer looking up the calories of a Dunkin' Donuts iced hot chocolate and my son commenting how one medium drink had more calories than a Hungry Man dinner - once you realize that, it's harder to splurge on the wasted calories on a regular basis. One of my mainstays is cereal with yogurt and raisins - it's filling, and when you use lowfat yogurt it's not very caloric. For a quick dinner I'll often microwave a potato and fill it with leftovers - that can be done very healthily if you want, and even if you're splurging a little on cheese, etc. at least it's not fried. Also, never eat anything that you don't like. I know that seems instinctual, but how many times do you find yourself finishing something that you don't like out of politeness, etc.; then a short time later you're eating again because the original food just didn't satisfy you. Whether you're splurging or not, make sure that your calories are worth it to you. Best of luck - between this and not smoking you've given your kids much more quality time with you in their lives!

Vic Sage Apr 01 2014 09:21 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

This is all good and wise advice, and i've followed all of it from time to time. The problem is that it doesn't last... at least not for me. When eating like this, I always feel deprived and unsatisfied, because huge quantities of sugar and carbs fill an emotional (not just physical) need that is not being met. So i marshal my resolve for as long as i can, and i lose some weight in the process. But then i either reward my weight loss with an ice-cream sundae, or a week of ice-cream sundaes, or if the weight loss is not coming fast enough, i say "fuck it" and throw in the towel with an ice-cream sundae, or a week of ice-cream sundaes. better luck to youse guys. When I'm eating out I substitute a vegetable or fruit for potatoes, or opt for rice instead of fries, etc. That's like saying "I'm going in for major surgery, but instead of having anesthesia, I'm going to have a beer first." But i'm happy that this has worked for you. More power to you.

themetfairy Apr 01 2014 09:49 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Not really. Eating out is a part of most of our lives, to varying degrees. Having strategies to keep things from getting out of hand is helpful. And seriously - an Egg Beaters omelet with a side of broccoli and some dry toast isn't exactly falling off the wagon. I just had my 61st consecutive monthly weigh-in within two pounds of goal weight, so it does seem to be working for me.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 01 2014 10:43 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

I'm with JCL on the work, fruit/veggies thing. I have a bag in the fridge with grapes, apples, carrots, etc. and snack on that stuff only. If I go out for lunch, I'll walk to the market and make a salad from the bar (only the raw stuff, none of those pre-made mixtures that end up in a salad bar), and I keep apple cider vinegar at the work place for a zero-cal dressing. I got one of those wicker steamers on Amazon for like $20 and I love to use it to steam veggies and fish or chicken at dinner. Olive oil is not bad for you or anything, but it still packs a fair bit of fat and calories in small dose, so it's a good, healthy switch. Keep kicking ass, CF.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 01 2014 11:18 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

themetfairy wrote: Not really. Eating out is a part of most of our lives, to varying degrees. Having strategies to keep things from getting out of hand is helpful. And seriously - an Egg Beaters omelet with a side of broccoli and some dry toast isn't exactly falling off the wagon. I just had my 61st consecutive monthly weigh-in within two pounds of goal weight, so it does seem to be working for me. If I could run as much as you do, I'd be able to eat a whole horse every day and still be underweight. To those doing moderate amounts of exercise, the key is getting your eating under control. Because unless you're engaging in extreme or intense exercising, you won't burn nearly enough calories to ignore your eating habits. Rewarding yourself with a treat after an hour in a gym is totally self-defeating. If you treated yourself to a couple a slices of pizza after running on a treadmill for about an hour -- no small feat -- you wouldn't have accomplished anything calorie-wise.

themetfairy Apr 01 2014 11:49 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

I'm not as active as you think. I do run 2-3 miles most mornings, but aside from that I'm pretty sedentary; the car culture of suburbia keeps me from being as active as I was when I lived in the City and was able to walk to most of my daily destinations. But yes, activity is part of the equation, but making smart food choices is equally important. And caloric splurges after running are about as helpful as smoking after running - taking care of part of the equation doesn't mean that you can ignore the other components. Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in.

Ceetar Apr 01 2014 11:54 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

batmagadanleadoff wrote: themetfairy wrote: Not really. Eating out is a part of most of our lives, to varying degrees. Having strategies to keep things from getting out of hand is helpful. And seriously - an Egg Beaters omelet with a side of broccoli and some dry toast isn't exactly falling off the wagon. I just had my 61st consecutive monthly weigh-in within two pounds of goal weight, so it does seem to be working for me. If I could run as much as you do, I'd be able to eat a whole horse every day and still be underweight. To those doing moderate amounts of exercise, the key is getting your eating under control. Because unless you're engaging in extreme or intense exercising, you won't burn nearly enough calories to ignore your eating habits. Rewarding yourself with a treat after an hour in a gym is totally self-defeating. If you treated yourself to a couple a slices of pizza after running on a treadmill for about an hour -- no small feat -- you wouldn't have accomplished anything calorie-wise. That depends. Is that pizza dinner? boom, now you've negated your dinner calories. If you ate average lunch and breakfast, you're down for the day. Is your treat a 200 calorie beer after a 600 calorie workout? You're still netting 400, and if you're eating sensibly you're still probably down for the day. It's just math. Plus even if you only broke even, you're getting healthier by working out, which is arguably more important than the actual weight number and muscle burns calories faster than fat so you're actually raising the amount of calories you burn tomorrow and in the future.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 01 2014 12:22 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 01 2014 12:32 PM

For me, breakfast is now a rotation of: Oatmeal (no sugar) with granola, strawberries and bananas. Egg white omelet, turkey, tomato and mushrooms. Two hard boiled eggs, turkey sausage. Drinks are either seltzer (which I drink a ton of), unsweetened tea, and the occasional Coke Zero. Please share any ideas. The only way I'm going to stick with this is if I can mix things up a bit. Good breakfast rotation. Some nice, easy change-ups/additions? -- Try some other fruits in the oatmeal-- berries are reliable, as are apples... but stuff like pears and persimmons work surprisingly well. Also, ain't nothing wrong with a little -- High-fiber, supergrain breads are supernutrition-for-the-caloric-buck, and go nicely with the eggs and such. So does a grain English muffin. Make an egg white-and-ham-and-thin-slice-of-good-cheddar sammy for yourself, instead of the hard-boiled business. -- Garlicky, oniony "veggie hash"es of hard veggies (carrots/sweet potatoes/turnips/squash) and greens mixed with/instead of hash browns give you a little stir-fry taste with a lot more nutrition than plain old potato hash. Do the prep work at night, toss it in the pan in the morning, and you've got a quick egg side. -- Rediscover peanut-butter. PB, honey, and banana on some wheat bread, to be exact. Or hell, assuming your allergies let you do so, try some almond butter or cashew butter instead. -- Feeling luxurious on a weekend? Learn how to poach those eggs, and poach 'em well... supercreamy and delicious, and with a fraction of the fat and such of frying. -- Pump up Greek yogurt with more fresh fruit. Like, a LOT of fresh fruit. It's like having dessert for breakfast. -- Edamame for breakfast! $1.99 a bag for the shelled stuff at Trader Joe's. Have it with, like, 5-6 toaster-oven tater tots or some fruit, and you've got a nice nutritional balance for under 400 calories. (YoungerPooper loves it.) -- Give yourself a little something every once in a while. Have some Nutella in the oatmeal every now and again. You like bacon? I mean, like bacon? Get yourself good, nitrate-free bacon (TJ's makes great applewood-smoked, thick-cut bid'ness) and have that instead of the turkey kind... just don't have it more than once a week. Or, hell, have some pancakes, then go light on carbohydrates at lunch. How you eat is as important as what you eat, too. You want to eat healthier? Eat it slower, eat it with water, eat smaller things more frequently (instead of three "big" meals), and eat bigger meals earlier than later (BF>lunch>dinner). Snacking constantly, drinking constantly, and eating sizable breakfasts has lost me 80-or-so pounds and virtually all of my chronic joint aches in a little less than 10 months. And do read up on nutrition-- voraciously, from varied sources-- if you can... the lowest-calorie option is often NOT the healthiest option.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 01 2014 12:26 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Also, rap about your favorite healthy breakfast even if you can't rap. I love her! [youtube:t13145sm]TClQmLacYsg[/youtube:t13145sm]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 01 2014 12:28 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Or, if you're not an cute, twentysomething blond, DO NOT RAP ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE HEALTHY BREAKFAST.

themetfairy Apr 01 2014 12:59 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: -- Give yourself a little something every once in a while. Have some Nutella in the oatmeal every now and again. An alternative to Nutella - toss in a few chocolate chips and swirl it around once right before eating. I will sometimes do that in lieu of other sweeteners.

metsmarathon Apr 01 2014 02:19 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

breakfast for me is three eggs on an english muffin, with two slices of meunster. less than that and i don;t really make it ot lunch. even though i make a big travel mug of coffee with half&half for the drive to work, and stop at dunkin for an XL coffee with extra cream when i'm halfway there to help get me through the rest of the morning. weekends is an indulgent french toast bagel toasted with butter and an XL coffee with half&half, which is much more effective at holding me over. lunch isn't terrible. typically it's hte previous night's leftovers. lunch portions are getting smaller and smaller. the reason for this is that... dinner is my undoing. i cook good, healthy food, in nice round quantities. i mean, i don't cook specifically healthy food, like healthy recipes or low fat foods or low carb stuff or veggie burgers and steamed veggies and egg whites and all that jazz. it's just good food cooked from (generally) whole foods. on the food network spectrum, id say its closest to a rachel ray, or a slightly healthier pioneer woman, as opposed to paula deen or sandra lee. there's a lot of fresh produce, and about the only things that come from cans and boxes are pasta, tomato and bean products, and soup stocks. its all really tasty and really good, and if i didn't enjoy cooking and eating it, i probably wouldn't. but here's the problem. minimm takes fucking forever to eat. if steve trachsel and daisuke matsuzaka had a baby, and that baby grew up into a distractable, happily-stubborn, underly-focused four-year old with a mop of slightly-reddish blonde hair and a penchant for storytelling, that kid would still eat his dinner quicker than minimm. and while i'm sitting htere, waiting for him to finish eating, i eat. and eat. and eat. i find frequently that i need to tell my child that he needn't chew his food so completely. what kind of parent am i, telling my kid to not chew his food sooo much? i mean, he chews mashed potatoes. i think he'd chew pudding,or chichen broth. darned kid. so yeah, while i wait for him to finish his interminable chewing, i keep on shoveling food into my mouth. the alternative is to grow frustrated with his slow-going. and that doesn't remedy the situation at all. the twinsomnia doesn't help, of course, as it's torpedoed my metabolism and leads to more midday snacking. but i think the biggest problem is that i can no longer control my portion sizes effectively.

themetfairy Apr 01 2014 02:44 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

mm - perhaps you can steam up some extra carrots or broccoli or something to munch on during dinner? Something to pass the time without adding a ton of calories? BTW, this made me literally LOL - if steve trachsel and daisuke matsuzaka had a baby, and that baby grew up into a distractable, happily-stubborn, underly-focused four-year old with a mop of slightly-reddish blonde hair and a penchant for storytelling, that kid would still eat his dinner quicker than minimm. MK asked why I was laughing. When I told him, he enjoyed the description.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 01 2014 03:27 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Also, rap about your favorite healthy breakfast even if you can't rap. I love her! [youtube]TClQmLacYsg[/youtube] I knew Backpack Girl would go on and do great things when she finished college.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 01 2014 03:40 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

metsmarathon wrote: but here's the problem. minimm takes fucking forever to eat. if steve trachsel and daisuke matsuzaka had a baby, and that baby grew up into a distractable, happily-stubborn, underly-focused four-year old with a mop of slightly-reddish blonde hair and a penchant for storytelling, that kid would still eat his dinner quicker than minimm. minimm and YoungerPooper eating similarity score: 98.7%

batmagadanleadoff Apr 02 2014 10:44 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Ceetar wrote: Is your treat a 200 calorie beer after a 600 calorie workout? You're still netting 400, and if you're eating sensibly you're still probably down for the day. It's just math. Plus even if you only broke even, you're getting healthier by working out, which is arguably more important than the actual weight number and muscle burns calories faster than fat so you're actually raising the amount of calories you burn tomorrow and in the future. I was working the weight loss angle here, but yeah ... exercise is better than no exercise, even if you're treating yourself to a beer afterwards. Exercise followed by a beer is healthier than just that beer. Are you really burning 600 calories in the gym, because that's pretty good.

Ceetar Apr 02 2014 10:48 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ceetar wrote: Is your treat a 200 calorie beer after a 600 calorie workout? You're still netting 400, and if you're eating sensibly you're still probably down for the day. It's just math. Plus even if you only broke even, you're getting healthier by working out, which is arguably more important than the actual weight number and muscle burns calories faster than fat so you're actually raising the amount of calories you burn tomorrow and in the future. I was working the weight loss angle here, but yeah ... exercise is better than no exercise, even if you're treating yourself to a beer afterwards. Exercise followed by a beer is healthier than just that beer. Are you really burning 600 calories in the gym, because that's pretty good. I've been taking it slower lately after a sorta off period, but yeah. I was generally running 3+ miles and I burn about 185 per mile. Then usually put in some time on the weights. Granted I've got more mass to burn, so..

batmagadanleadoff Apr 02 2014 11:09 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

themetfairy wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in. How can this be? When running, as opposed to walking, your heart beats faster, your body uses up more oxygen and you're generating greater forces.

Ceetar Apr 02 2014 11:41 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

batmagadanleadoff wrote: themetfairy wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in. How can this be? When running, as opposed to walking, your heart beats faster, your body uses up more oxygen and you're generating greater forces. I don't believe it either, and in all practical testings haven't found it to be true. (like the treadmill's calorie counter) There probably is a point where if you're briskly walking with an elevated heart rate it's much the same as running. Energy, which is calories or Joules, is measured by Force * Distance. So if you're exerting more force over the same amount of distance, you're doing more work and therefore more calories are burned.

themetfairy Apr 02 2014 12:25 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

batmagadanleadoff wrote: themetfairy wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in. How can this be? When running, as opposed to walking, your heart beats faster, your body uses up more oxygen and you're generating greater forces. When you're active for a longer time things even out.

d'Kong76 Apr 02 2014 01:10 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

My doctor told me that an hour-long walk of being dragged by the dog is as good for me as running 2 1/2-3 miles. Not sure I completely buy it, but since running aggravates my spine I'm going with it. I eat salad 5-6 times a week and a lot of vegetables. I eat everything that isn't nailed down. Don't have weight issues, so I'm going with that too (and take Lipitor).

batmagadanleadoff Apr 02 2014 01:12 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

themetfairy wrote: themetfairy wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in. How can this be? When running, as opposed to walking, your heart beats faster, your body uses up more oxygen and you're generating greater forces. When you're active for a longer time things even out. That I could believe. I'd probably burn more calories if I walked, say, three miles than if I ran half a mile. But that's not what you said, initially. themetfairy wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in.

themetfairy Apr 02 2014 02:14 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

I believe that is what I said. A mile is a mile, whether you walk it or run it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 02 2014 05:56 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

It doesn't quite work out; you'd probably have to walk a little longer to reach the same caloric expenditure (see: what Ceetar said). OE: Yeah, what he said.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 02 2014 06:59 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

It doesn't quite work out; you'd probably have to walk a little longer to reach the same caloric expenditure (see: what Ceetar said). OE: Yeah, what he said. I googled a couple of these walk/run articles myself and I'd say that overall, the reporting is muddled. But I think it's safe to say that generally, running burns more calories than walking, though there are enough variables at play that depending on your average speed differentials between walking and running, you can burn at least the same number of calories by walking the same distance that you'd normally run. By like, gaming the experiment (i.e., walking faster than you normally walk or running slower than you usually do).

metsmarathon Apr 02 2014 07:30 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in. How can this be? When running, as opposed to walking, your heart beats faster, your body uses up more oxygen and you're generating greater forces. well, for one, its not true. running a mile burns about 50% more calories per mile than walking, until your walking speed starts to approach race-walking speed of 12:30/mile or so. http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss ... l-you-burn

metsmarathon Apr 02 2014 07:32 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 02 2014 07:33 PM

metsmarathon wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in. How can this be? When running, as opposed to walking, your heart beats faster, your body uses up more oxygen and you're generating greater forces. well, for one, its not true. running a mile burns about 50% more calories per mile than walking, until your walking speed starts to approach race-walking speed of 12:30/mile or so. http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss ... l-you-burn i think if i could sum up what i read on the googles, its basically about speed. if you walk faster than you run, you'll burn more calories walking. if, like most people, you run faster than you walk, you'll burn more calories running. but whether you run or walk, you burn a hell of a lot more calories that you would just sitting on your couch.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 02 2014 07:32 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

metsmarathon wrote: Something else to keep in mind is that running one mile and walking one mile burn the same amount of calories; the difference is that you'll finish your mile more quickly by running than by walking. So even if you're not a runner you can get your miles in. How can this be? When running, as opposed to walking, your heart beats faster, your body uses up more oxygen and you're generating greater forces. well, for one, its not true. running a mile burns about 50% more calories per mile than walking, until your walking speed starts to approach race-walking speed of 12:30/mile or so. http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss ... l-you-burn That was rhetorical. I suspected it ain't true.

d'Kong76 Apr 02 2014 07:52 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

I think watching and burning calories is largely over-analyzed. Eat well, get some exercise, works for most people. Gotta get the bike out of the aux-basement the next day or so.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 02 2014 07:54 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

It doesn't quite work out; you'd probably have to walk a little longer to reach the same caloric expenditure (see: what Ceetar said). OE: Yeah, what he said. I don't think it's what Ceetar said. I agree with where Cee ultimately stands on this issue, but I don't think that he explained it properly. Ceetar's post could be used to debunk the idea that walking for five minutes burns as many calories as running for five minutes. But that wasn't the premise. The premise was whether running for a mile burns as many calories as walking that same mile. See the difference? We can agree that, all other things being equal, running burns more calories than walking. So a person running an eight minute mile should burn more calories in eight minutes than he would walking for eight minutes at a 12 minute mile pace. But the issue raised by TMF is whether the extra four minutes of exercise needed to walk the mile compensates for the fact that calories are burned at a faster rate by running. The literature seems to say not really, though it could.

d'Kong76 Apr 02 2014 07:59 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Be active, or be fat! Rinse, repeat.

themetfairy Apr 02 2014 08:00 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Walking five minutes does not burn the same calories as running five minutes. My understanding is that walking five miles burns the same calories as running five miles. But as mm said, it's all better than just sitting on your couch.

metsmarathon Apr 02 2014 08:53 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

themetfairy wrote: My understanding is that walking five miles burns the same calories as running five miles. the literature suggests its generally not true. it may be true, however, to say that briskly walking can burn almost as much calories as slowly running. the difference may be 10-25% for brisk walking and slow running. from the standpoint of encouraging a more active lifestyle, teh difference might not be terribly meaningful, but it's there nonetheless. comparing slow walking to fast running, the gap increases to become more significant. but then, you're fairly unlikely to find yourself trying to encourage someone into a more active lifestyle, and their only available choices of activity are either to walk slowly or run fastly. faster burns more calories than slower, although the return appear to diminish somewhat, from a strict calorie burn standpoint, as you compare fast with faster and faster still. presumably until you hit lactate threshold level of effort.

Centerfield Apr 03 2014 07:28 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Let's do the math. According to google, average walking speed is 3 MPH, which translates to a 20 minute mile. I looked this up, and for a 150 lb. person, this translates to 99 calories burned. Average jogging speed is 6 MPH, which is a 10 minute mile. Jogging at that pace for 10 min. (same 150 lb. person) burns 114. So it seems it's not exact, but closer than I would have suspected.

metirish Apr 03 2014 07:41 AM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

d'Kong76 wrote: My doctor told me that an hour-long walk of being dragged by the dog is as good for me as running 2 1/2-3 miles. Not sure I completely buy it, but since running aggravates my spine I'm going with it. I eat salad 5-6 times a week and a lot of vegetables. I eat everything that isn't nailed down. Don't have weight issues, so I'm going with that too (and take Lipitor). Hi Kase

Fman99 Apr 03 2014 06:50 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

Wasn't sure if this belonged in the Victorino Thread, or the Running Thread, or the food thread, so when in doubt start a new one. Along with my running kick, I'm trying to eat healthier. So no more bacon and hash browns in the morning. No more Cuban chicken and rice for lunch. And sadly, cookies are now a sometimes food. But one can only eat so many salads. Share your healthy dishes NOW!!!! For me, breakfast is now a rotation of: Oatmeal (no sugar) with granola, strawberries and bananas. Egg white omelet, turkey, tomato and mushrooms. Two hard boiled eggs, turkey sausage. Drinks are either seltzer (which I drink a ton of), unsweetened tea, and the occasional Coke Zero. Please share any ideas. The only way I'm going to stick with this is if I can mix things up a bit. I start every day with a bowl of cereal -- usually cold cereal with milk but occasionally a bowl of instant oatmeal and a glass of milk on the side. Lunches are healthy - sandwiches on whole wheat bread with lean meats and cheeses, side salads. Snack all day - raisins, fruit, Greek yogurt, etc. I do still eat some processed snacks also but those of the lower fat variety -- fruit bars, graham crackers and such. Snack on dry roast peanuts as well. For dinner I cook using lean meats when the recipes don't suffer as a result. I've found 90% lean beef to work well for burgers and meatballs. I cook with skinless, boneless chicken - though I mix it up between thighs and breast meat. Marinades! Teriyaki, etc. serve over brown rice. Cook everything in small amounts of oil or non stick spray. I drink water and diet sodas and limit alcohol to a few nights a week, usually only on weekends. Snacks at home are also healthy -- reduced fat crackers with cheese and hummus, a few corn chips with salsa, things like that. I can afford to be a little less careful in my diet due to the high mileage I'm running these days. It jacks up my metabolism - so I'm hungry all day - but it's all being burned off. I've lost about 7 lbs since the start of 2014, largely due to cutting booze out on weeknights and some additional cross training (take a spin class, you'll be drenched in sweat).

d'Kong76 Apr 03 2014 07:01 PM Re: Cookies are Sometimes Food

metirish wrote: Hi Kase Hah, my doctor is a woman because of guys that look like that.