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IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

themetfairy Apr 21 2014 05:42 PM

So far we're making their rookie pitcher look like Cy Young....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 05:44 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Who the hell bats Granderson-- nevermind struggling Granderson-- second against a lefty? White Jerry, that's who.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 05:57 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Nah. The notion is that number two guys get strikes to swing at. Or get hit by pitches. That too. Anywutz, Broken-bat RBI by Dabid! YAY!

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 05:58 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Edgy MD wrote: Nah. The notion is that number two guys get strikes to swing at. Actually, that was the same notion that had Jerry-Jerry batting Duda second, so... .

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:04 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

"Hi, I am the glove of Ruben Tejada. And I will be taking things from you. First, I will take your base hits. Then, I will take your joy. Lastly, I will take your dignity. Good day to you."

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 06:05 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

I was afraid he was going to rush that throw and heave it into the stands even though, with Yadier running, he still had like fifteen minutes to spare.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

"I am Daniel Murphy's bat. I will be hitting balls to left against lefthanded breaking pitches. It is what I do."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 06:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Well, sure, Peralta can turn double plays fine when you hit it right at him, Eyebrows.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:08 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Hard to imagine a MORE tailor-made double play ball than that what was just hit by Satin, huh?

Zvon Apr 21 2014 06:10 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Satin was running slower than Harper there on that DP.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:13 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Slow or fast. That grounder would have doubled up a 20-year-old Mickey Mantle. Didn't notice that he dogged it, though. Meanwitz, that drive by d'Arnie would have been 12 rows deep at YSIII.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 06:17 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Considering how many hits we tagged offa Joe Anonymous over here the second time around the order, you'd think we'd have brought home more than a run.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 06:18 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Wowsers. Reyish. Vizquelian, even.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:18 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Holy spats! That's what other double plays HOPE to be.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 06:19 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Wow. Mr T with the fantazamazin' stop & DP.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:20 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

He looks pretty much the same.

d'Kong76 Apr 21 2014 06:21 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

That was sumpthin' else!

Zvon Apr 21 2014 06:22 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

I missed the earlier T play, heard it on the radio. Couldn't have been as good as that one, huh?

d'Kong76 Apr 21 2014 06:25 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

No, but also pretty slick.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:34 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Jenrry Jiudinni.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 06:40 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Satin!? Satin hesitates with the wave over and C Young hesitates and GAH.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 06:42 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Zvon wrote: Satin!? Satin hesitates with the wave over and C Young hesitates and GAH. Chris Young waits for Satin never reaching the base ...

Zvon Apr 21 2014 06:43 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

No relief? Lets break this thing open. Now.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:43 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Murphy was safe. Stupid, but safe.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 06:44 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Whoa. WTF is goin on here? Why steal? You're freakin' lucky Muff.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 06:45 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Woulda scored on that from 2nd Danny boy. d' with a ripped RBI single.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:46 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Nice to see how hard d'Arnie is hitting it. Didn't see if Terry got in Murphy's face after he scored.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 06:49 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

An inning with two walks, two singles, an error, and two fly balls should result in more than one run.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2014 06:55 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

I like how Keef says "periphial." Is Murph going to suck his finger all game? Is that from the DP or sliding into third?

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:02 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

I'll stand and clap. Great job Mejia. *clap,clap,clap,clap..

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:02 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: An inning with two walks, two singles, an error, and two fly balls should result in more than one run. Only our Mets can do that kinda stuff.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 07:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Satin looked like he was surprised he picked that one successfully. Jeck of a hob, Jank.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:08 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

After yesterdays sac fly don't we give Grandy a BOOO free game here? Oy, fans today.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 07:10 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Effectiveness against Metly bats aside, I like that he's in our league now, because that means I get to see Pat Neshek do his thing a little more often. He's fun to look'it.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2014 07:21 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

We need more runs...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 07:23 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Hard to do when you're pitching and playing the field, but yes. After getting a hanger tattooed by Allen Craig, Quotidian Carlos (10th appearance in 19 games) bounced back nicely against Holliday there. If he can negotiate lumberjack-y Matt Adams, we're into Farnsworth territory.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:25 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Yesterday MLB.TV was getting to me faster than WPIX, maybe by 30 seconds. Tonight WPIX is at least a minute, more like 2, ahead of MLB.TV. That's wacky stuff.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 07:26 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

El Torrez!!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 07:26 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

And of course The Consistently Competent Mets Reliever does the damn thing. Onward to Farnsworthia.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 07:27 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

In Atlanta tonight, Freddie Freeman just popped out with the bases loaded and one out in the 7th inning of a one run game. I didn't think he even had that move in his repertoire.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 07:29 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

[Shawshank Prisoners]NEW MEAT. NEW MEAT. NEW MEAT[Shawshank]

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:35 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Bobby Abreu sighting.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:36 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Who went down for Bobby?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 07:40 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Browntown. Farnsworth's location looks fairly solid tonight, actually. (Molina's single came on a pretty good pitch.)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 07:41 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 21 2014 07:42 PM

Sweet Irish hands on the DP turn there. Who are these middle infielders we're running out there tonight, and can we keep them?

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 07:41 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

No justice for Jon Jay

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:42 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Browntown. Farnsworth's location looks fairly solid tonight, actually. (Molina's single came on a pretty good pitch.) Who went down for Bobby? Thanks, and I peeked: To make room on the roster, the Mets have optioned outfielder Andrew Brown to Triple-A Las Vegas. The 29-year-old has gone 5 for 27 (.185) with one homer in 10 games this season. Yea, Brown needs at bats. 2 out. Fast game.

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:43 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Haha, nice catch by that Cardfan.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2014 07:44 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

[bigpurple:17zpd3dn]b00kZ!!![/bigpurple:17zpd3dn]

Lefty Specialist Apr 21 2014 07:44 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2014 07:45 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Long live Farnsworthia!

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:46 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Shhhh. It hasn't ended on MLB.TV yet. I kid. GG!!!

Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 21 2014 07:47 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Nice! Jenrry is a bad ass!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2014 07:48 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Black Jenrry + White Jerry 4Eva

metirish Apr 21 2014 07:50 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Nice win, everyone is just having fun says d"Arnaud

Zvon Apr 21 2014 07:54 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Mejia 3-0. Very nice.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2014 07:28 AM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Farnsworth looked completely normal wearing the camo. Pretty much everyone else looked awful.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2014 07:51 AM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Yeah, he was probably wearing camo under his jersey too. There was a bit story today that he was shaking out his arm in obvious discomfort in the tunnel shot after the game. Anybody catch that?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2014 07:57 AM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

I saw Roobie tweeting about it. All the stars are aligned for the Dice-Kloser vision.

Vic Sage Apr 22 2014 08:11 AM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

yes, by all means, lets cycle through retreads while we're up to our armpits in talented minor league arms. After all, its not as if using young starters out of the pen ever works, either in bolstering the pen or in developing the arms as eventual major league pitchers. Surely no lesson can be drawn in this regard from our current opponents in St.L, who've seemed to have done this expertly.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 22 2014 08:59 AM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

John Harper made that same argument in the Daily News this morning.

Vic Sage Apr 22 2014 12:07 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

well it's true anyway.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 22 2014 12:14 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Vic Sage wrote: yes, by all means, lets cycle through retreads while we're up to our armpits in talented minor league arms. After all, its not as if using young starters out of the pen ever works, either in bolstering the pen or in developing the arms as eventual major league pitchers. Surely no lesson can be drawn in this regard from our current opponents in St.L, who've seemed to have done this expertly. This was standard operating procedure for any Earl Weaver team. His rookie pitchers generally worked their way into the starting rotation through the bullpen. If it was good enough for Earl ....

Edgy MD Apr 22 2014 12:27 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Who is being advocated for here? deGrom? Montero? Syndergaard?

Ceetar Apr 22 2014 12:32 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

The Cardinals brought up Michael Wacha last year, he made a few starts, they transitioned him to the bullpen a little, and then they put him back in the rotation. Haven't we been down on that in-out type stuff? Wainwright's really the guy everyone's talking about. He was a September call-up in 2005 and made the team as a reliever in 2006. They then jumped his innings 127 and he started in 2007 and was pretty good, but not great. His ERA dropped a half point from 07-08, though his FIP only slightly, and it wasn't until 2009 that he started garnering Cy Young awards. Who's to say the year in the bullpen didn't delay his development? Lance Lynn did the reliever thing in 2011 and then in 2012 was a starter except for a month near the end of the season and then they stretched him back out near the end of the season to use him in the playoffs and he got bombed. I wonder if that end of season stretching out was bad for him? Shelby Miller got a 2012 September call up as a reliever and started in 2013. Joe Kelly has done half and half in 2012 and 2013. They stretched him out last June for the rotation. It's certainly one way to do it, but It's probably not the best way. Nor the only way. And was at least partially born of necessity. And isn't Mejia an example of it too, and one that is almost universally criticized? Aren't Germen and Familia both examples? They transitioned Germen to the bullpen last year. They also transitioned Familia to the bullpen last year as well, after he got a September callup in 2012 as a reliever. The Cardinals prospects worked out better in terms of ceiling, but the process looks very similar. And there's been plenty of talk of guys like deGrom getting called up, and maybe even Montero, but for the sake of those guys development, they're starting where they can start, but that's a lot more valuable. It's not like those guys are locks to be lock-down relievers at this point in their development either. Their growing pains could very well be worse than Kyle Farnsworth. I'm all for molding the development plan of our young arms to those players, not to the whims of the major league roster.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 22 2014 05:23 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Ceetar wrote: And isn't Mejia an example of it too, and one that is almost universally criticized? Aren't Germen and Familia both examples? They transitioned Germen to the bullpen last year. They also transitioned Familia to the bullpen last year as well, after he got a September callup in 2012 as a reliever. The Cardinals prospects worked out better in terms of ceiling, but the process looks very similar. The issue with Mejia-to-the-pen, IIRC, was that he was a superyoung, still-developing arm... and that he was being asked to pitch differently than he would as a starter. According to public statements, Jerry specifically asked him to deemphasize the secondary pitches which would make him a workable starting pitcher in order to help the Mets here-and-now. Mejia was being steered into the pen as an end, not as a let's-try-this-for-now-while-we-work-on-the-other-thing experiment. Germen and Familia, in the Mets' mind (and the minds of most who watch 'em, honestly), have their futures out beyond the fence in right-center; I don't think anyone's got an issue with their usage.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2014 05:28 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

I never had the idea that it was an end.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 22 2014 06:24 PM Re: IGT 4/21/14 - St. Louis Cardinals vs. Military Mets

Well, assuming you're right... asking him to "just throw the fastball" when he needs to develop the other pitches and pitch sequencing if he's to become anything other than a short reliever was/is about the most short-sighted way possible to employ the bullpen-as-on-the-job-learning-environment, isn't it?