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Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Frayed Knot Apr 18 2014 04:48 PM

So sez Heyman. No word on return.

themetfairy Apr 18 2014 04:53 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

SNY said that Pittsburgh will send us pitching prospect Zack Thornton and a PTBNL.

metirish Apr 18 2014 05:00 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Wow, just saw it now on SNY,,,,,

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2014 05:21 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Those K/9 numbers is tasty. Unlike most guys who start out as minor-league relievers, he seems to have gotten better as he's progressed through the system (peep the dropping walk rate).

Frayed Knot Apr 18 2014 05:24 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Was Thorton the guy the Mets were asking for but Pitt was balking on for a theoretical Ike trade over the winter? We may have to check the archives on this one. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... ornt001zac

Frayed Knot Apr 18 2014 05:34 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Those K/9 numbers is tasty. Unlike most guys who start out as minor-league relievers, he seems to have gotten better as he's progressed through the system (peep the dropping walk rate). K/BB are nice ... ~4.5/1 H/IP is nice ... <1/per HR/G is ridonculous ... ~1 every 20 innings and the worst ERA year was when in the hitting-happy California League (Stockon was his home park)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2014 05:38 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

So much depends upon A green TBNL prospect Glazed with promise Beside the other Zack

Frayed Knot Apr 18 2014 05:46 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Frayed Knot wrote: Was Thorton the guy the Mets were asking for but Pitt was balking on for a theoretical Ike trade over the winter? We may have to check the archives on this one. No, it was Nick Kingham I was thinking of. Gary drops the hint that the PtbNL in this deal is the "more significant" of the two.

Ashie62 Apr 18 2014 05:55 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

A bag of balls thus far...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2014 05:57 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

LWFS prospect-boner status: RAGING

TransMonk Apr 18 2014 06:03 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Any guesses?

d'Kong76 Apr 18 2014 06:11 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I'm guessing once someone says it everyone is saying they're hearing it. The Twitterverse!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2014 06:19 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

It sure as hell isn't Polanco or Taillon, and probably isn't Taillons-in-waiting Kingham or Glasnow. Best we could somewhat-reasonably hope for? Something like this or this, but more likely, it's one of a few of their intriguing SS/low-A outfield prospects. They've got a deep pond of fish, those guys do.

Ashie62 Apr 18 2014 06:21 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Taillon just had Tommy John...

Ashie62 Apr 18 2014 06:22 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It sure as hell isn't Polanco or Taillon, and probably isn't Taillons-in-waiting Kingham or Glasnow. Best we could somewhat-reasonably hope for? Something like this or this, but more likely, it's one of a few of their intriguing SS/low-A outfield prospects. They've got a deep pond of fish, those guys do. You may be very on the money with SS Hanson...

Frayed Knot Apr 18 2014 06:26 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Ashie62 wrote: A bag of balls thus far... Looking forward to your scouting report on him.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2014 06:30 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

The PTBNL designation at this point in the year really lends itself to a you-guys-pick-from-one-of-these-fungible-outfielders kinda situation, doesn't it?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 18 2014 06:31 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

It's always shocking to see Ashie with a negative opinion of a player.

d'Kong76 Apr 18 2014 06:36 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The PTBNL designation at this point in the year really lends itself to a you-guys-pick-from-one-of-these-fungible-outfielders kinda situation, doesn't it? I would think so, thus making the speculation that someone* knows the ptbnl is someone significant. *and then two dozen others who 'follow' someone

Ashie62 Apr 18 2014 06:38 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Interesting that Pittsburgh took a shot on Florida Lefty slugger Gaby Sanchez who had a big year but ended up in the minors a year later and takes on Ike as a similar project..

Benjamin Grimm Apr 18 2014 06:40 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I'd rather see this player named sooner instead of later, if only to sate my curiosity.

Ashie62 Apr 18 2014 06:41 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It's always shocking to see Ashie with a negative opinion of a player. I always look for the positive... In fact.. the Mets have so many young live arms they could go after a HR bashing type guy..

Zvon Apr 18 2014 06:41 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Just found out. Kinda shocked. Don't know if I like it or not. We'll see who this ptbnl is.

RealityChuck Apr 18 2014 06:43 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Who in Pittsburgh is on the DL or has a no-trade clause and plays short?

Ashie62 Apr 18 2014 06:47 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I want to know and I want to know now....

metirish Apr 18 2014 07:00 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Gary just reiterated that the player to be named later is the more significant part in this deal. has that ever been the case?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2014 07:02 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I think it can be when it's a player selected in the prior draft before a year has passed. Another scenario is giving the Mets time to select among several guys etc etc. Really thought we'd have worked a 3-way for a shortstop.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 18 2014 07:16 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I forgot that it isn't yet June. Last season's draft-- top-rated in the majors by many, including BA's Jim Callis-- is right here.

Frayed Knot Apr 18 2014 07:33 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I was thinking draft picks were six months ... but maybe it's a full year. PtbNL can be for any one of a variety of reasons: injury (although that would make it simple for most of the snoops to figure it out), Mets still deciding from a small list of players, Pitt needing to make a move somewhere first.

Edgy MD Apr 18 2014 07:51 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Our Zack facktor is getting noticeably high.

MFS62 Apr 18 2014 08:44 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

That Thornton was eligible for the Rule V draft, and nobody drafted him (when many teams are looking for lefty relievers with good K/BB ratios) doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. But the old baseball adage is that lefties take longer to develop. So maybe he can be good. Time will tell. The PTBNL seems to be the key return. Let's find out who that is. Anyhow, Duda has to step up his game, or Sandy will get roasted until at least one of these guys develop. Later

Mex17 Apr 19 2014 06:14 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I think the PTBNL candidates are: -Jordy Mercer -Nick Kingham -Josh Bell -Alen Hanson Discuss. . .

Mex17 Apr 19 2014 06:21 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

. . .or Glasnow, who is currently on the 7-day DL. Maybe that is the reason why he cannot be named yet.

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2014 06:31 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Kingham is the guy the Mets were supposedly after during ST but were rebuffed by Pitt - so it's probably not him. Jordy Mercer we've seen in the big leagues playing all four IF positions including SS. The drawback here is that he'll turn 28 before this year is out and he's yet to even play a full season in the majors so the ceiling probably isn't too high and there's a decent chance he's already reached it. Not sure how glove-tastic he is. Quickie notes on the other three via John Sickels - Tyler Glasnow, RHP, Grade B+ (#3 prospect Pitt org): Ridiculously good K/IP and H/IP marks in Low-A stand out as big positive and confirm reports of outstanding movement/velocity combination. Walk rate was too high to get an A-grade at this time, but he’s come a long way from being a high school kid throwing 86 MPH to throwing 95 and higher in three years. Further mechanical refinements with 6-7 body will push him into truly elite prospect range and he’s not far off right now. - Josh Bell, OF, Grade B: Borderline B+ (#6) Hit "just" 12 homers in Low-A, but 37 doubles and strong relative rate of production (wRC+132) are reasons for optimism. I think more home run power will come. Upside: Chili Davis after he lost his speed, a switch-hitting slugger with good plate discipline. - Alen Hanson, SS, Grade B: Borderline B+ (#7) Had some plate discipline issues after moving up to Double-A and questions persist about his defense and use of his speed on the bases, but even at second base his combination of youth and offensive ability should give him a good shot at being a productive regular. My guess is that it would be optimistic to plan on any of those three guys being our PtbNL

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2014 06:43 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Matt Cerrone at MetsBlog chimes in with "the buzz from Citi Field is that the player coming from the Pirates is likely a player they drafted with a top pick last June" -- Go nuts folks -- which does make sense in that it would prevent the choice from being named (at least officially) until early June. If true that would likely mean a higher ceiling player than most if not all of the above, but also a longer lag time (first three picks were all from HS) and a bigger swing-and-miss potential.

Vic Sage Apr 19 2014 06:58 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

MFS62 wrote: That Thornton was eligible for the Rule V draft, and nobody drafted him (when many teams are looking for lefty relievers with good K/BB ratios) doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. But the old baseball adage is that lefties take longer to develop. So maybe he can be good. Time will tell. The PTBNL seems to be the key return. Let's find out who that is. Anyhow, Duda has to step up his game, or Sandy will get roasted until at least one of these guys develop. Later thornton is a rightie

Edgy MD Apr 19 2014 08:09 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Stop with the details. I'm sure he could throw with his left arm if he wanted to. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think it can be when it's a player selected in the prior draft before a year has passed. Another scenario is giving the Mets time to select among several guys etc etc. Really thought we'd have worked a 3-way for a shortstop. One of the scenarios I'm juggling is that the PtBNL is a possible shortstop still to come to the Pirates from another deal. Meanwhile, Didi Gregorius hit a walkoff homer last night to give the Reno Aces a 10-7 win over your Las Vegas 51s.

Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 19 2014 08:24 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Do you think this move frees up some money to finally sign Stephen Drew? The Mets can't be thrilled with Tejada.

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2014 08:47 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Do you think this move frees up some money to finally sign Stephen Drew? No. First of all Ike's money wasn't all that much ($3 and change?) to the point where it's going to make or break something like this. Plus I don't believe Drew's non-signing was about not having the money as much as it was about Sandy's feeling that Drew simply isn't worth what he's asking for ($20 mil over 2 at minimum and a draft pick to boot). That every other team seems to feel the same way only strengthens that view.

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2014 11:24 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Gotta like the subtlety of the front page headline in the Snooze: TAKE A HIKE IKE: Mets Dump 1st Base Bust

Mex17 Apr 19 2014 02:33 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Frayed Knot wrote: Matt Cerrone at MetsBlog chimes in with "the buzz from Citi Field is that the player coming from the Pirates is likely a player they drafted with a top pick last June" -- Go nuts folks -- which does make sense in that it would prevent the choice from being named (at least officially) until early June. If true that would likely mean a higher ceiling player than most if not all of the above, but also a longer lag time (first three picks were all from HS) and a bigger swing-and-miss potential. I do not think that "significant player" or "top pick" would describe someone who was picked outside of the first round or who is outside of mlb.com's top 100 prospect list. And, with d'Arnaud and Plawecki already in the fold, I also do not think that Alderson is looking for another catching prospect such as Reese McGuire. I do however think that he would be looking for another outfield prospect, especially one with line drive type power and enough speed to cover a lot of ground in the CitiField outfield (two qualities that seem to describe this Austin Meadows kid based on what I am reading). I think that we have identified our man.

Edgy MD Apr 19 2014 03:14 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Wait, where are we getting "significant player"? The only reference to "significant" I've seen is that he's expected by one or more parties to be "more significant" than Thornton. This could describe any member of a --- sorry, Thorny --- rather vast field of players. Let's not set the Mets up to fail, here.

Mex17 Apr 19 2014 03:25 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Edgy MD wrote: Wait, where are we getting "significant player"? The only reference to "significant" I've seen is that he's expected by one or more parties to be "more significant" than Thornton. This could describe any member of a --- sorry, Thorny --- rather vast field of players. Let's not set the Mets up to fail, here. https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status ... 4485180416

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2014 03:38 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Yeah, I think we're in danger of grasping here. Sandy can ask for whatever he wants but, even if this is a "top pick" (say first three rounds) from 2013, all were HS players which makes them each several years away (like, say, four, and that's only if everything goes right) which pretty much negates any reason to pick for immediate positional need. And even if this 'top pick' thing is true (remember that it's based on nothing more than "Buzz" at the moment -- is that more or less than "rumor"?) it assumes that Pitt is in such a panic over their less than stellar start 20 games in that they've not only upped whatever offer Sandy deemed not good enough from the spring but are now allowing him his specific pick of prospects. Ike may have hit 32 HRs in a season once but that represents nearly half his career total and he's likely to be no better than a platoon player w/the Pirates and essentially was in a position here where he Had to be dealt. Somehow, to me anyway, all that doesn't add up to: relief help PLUS last year's overall #9 pick who's off to a very nice start to his pro career [.294/.399/.524 last year and 9 for his first 17 this season w/2 HRs] Be nice if it did, but don't start hunting for his jersey in Mets shops quite yet.

MFS62 Apr 19 2014 04:17 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Vic Sage wrote: thornton is a rightie Then I'm not as optimistic. Thanks. Later

Ashie62 Apr 19 2014 04:54 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Austin Meadows is toolsy....

Mex17 Apr 19 2014 04:57 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Frayed Knot wrote: ) which pretty much negates any reason to pick for immediate positional need. We can quibble over what a "top pick" means and over what a fair return for Ike will be, but, given the stadium that the Mets play in, I would argue that the need for line drive hitters and outfielders who can cover ground will be pretty persistent going forward.

Ashie62 Apr 19 2014 05:12 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Austin Meadows and hottie girlfriend...

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2014 06:09 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Mex17 wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: ) which pretty much negates any reason to pick for immediate positional need. We can quibble over what a "top pick" means and over what a fair return for Ike will be, but, given the stadium that the Mets play in, I would argue that the need for line drive hitters and outfielders who can cover ground will be pretty persistent going forward. Line drive hitters who can cover ground will ALWAYS be a need. So are catchers. What I'm saying is that your conclusion that it's Meadows based on the idea that Sandy would go after an outfield prospect but not a catcher is flawed on account of it being based on the current roster while ignoring the fact that a HS draft pick from 2013 is unlikely to even see the majors until at least 2017 and who knows what the roster will look like then. It also kind of assumes that Pittsburgh gave Sandy an either/or choice.

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2014 07:32 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Ike, btw, 2-for-3 plus a walk and 2 runs scored tonight in Steeltown.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 19 2014 11:17 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Ike may have hit 32 HRs in a season once but that represents nearly half his career total and he's likely to be no better than a platoon player w/the Pirates and essentially was in a position here where he Had to be dealt. Somehow, to me anyway, all that doesn't add up to: relief help PLUS last year's overall #9 pick who's off to a very nice start to his pro career [.294/.399/.524 last year and 9 for his first 17 this season w/2 HRs] It's certainly not Meadows. But it could be someone like Jacoby Jones (good baseball name, no?) or Barrett Barnes (good '40s reporter name, no?) or someone else with some potential who's a little ways away. I mean, the best counterpoint is... well, look what they gave up last year for a quarter-season of Byrd and Buck, right?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 20 2014 02:47 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

The Ikeman Goeth [fimg=622:31z7wrdw]http://www.post-gazette.com/image/2014/04/19/ca0,0,2210,1473/20140419IkeDavisSports1.jpg[/fimg:31z7wrdw]

batmagadanleadoff Apr 20 2014 02:56 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

41% of respondents in this poll taken after Ike's rookie 2010 season thought that Ike's career would mostly resemble Keith Hernandez's among the choices given: [fimg=444:2uug0bz4]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/476086/ike_mex_medium.gif[/fimg:2uug0bz4] http://www.amazinavenue.com/2010/11/2/1 ... is-ceiling [fimg=544:2uug0bz4]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ApGpJ-2CIAAHr6V.jpg:large[/fimg:2uug0bz4]

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2014 07:30 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

batmagadanleadoff wrote: 41% of respondents in this poll taken after Ike's rookie 2010 season thought that Ike's career would mostly resemble Keith Hernandez's among the choices given 99 percent* of respondents to polls like this one have a tendency to link players based on largely superficial traits (the more similarities the better: in this case white, LHB, 1B, Mets) and therefore reach the conclusion that B is destined to be the next A, whereas a more logical exam wouldn't see all that many similarities between Ike and Mex. It's like in the NBA where white players can only be compared to other white ones and black to black. Or where Domincan short stops are rarely said to resemble a white American one. Which isn't to say that I'm claiming to have foreseen how Ike's career arc would develop, it's just that I wouldn't for a minute have compared him to Hernandez. * unofficial statistic

Zvon Apr 20 2014 03:34 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

batmagadanleadoff wrote: [fimg=444]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/476086/ike_mex_medium.gif[/fimg] Look at that 'lil extra hitch. The bring-back would be the same if not for that 'lil extra hitch which many claim to be Ike main problem.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2014 06:32 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Ike Davis: Grand Slams in April 2014 = 2 Derek Jeter: Grand Slams in Career = 1

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2014 06:18 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

It just occurred to me that Ike got dealt from a team wearing a Ralph Kiner patch to a team wearing a Ralph Kiner patch.

metirish Apr 22 2014 06:19 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Frayed Knot wrote: It just occurred to me that Ike got dealt from a team wearing a Ralph Kiner patch to a team wearing a Ralph Kiner patch. fuck wow...

Edgy MD Apr 22 2014 06:49 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I'd like to build my house in a Kiner patch.

vtmet Apr 22 2014 10:44 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I realize that Ike underachieved...but as a Mets fan, I think that they traded the wrong first baseman... but for Ike, he just got traded into a nice situation with a very good young team that had a glaring hole at first base (Gaby Sanchez is a good RH'd platoon partner, but not really a good choice for every day 1B)...

vtmet Apr 22 2014 10:45 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Frayed Knot wrote: It just occurred to me that Ike got dealt from a team wearing a Ralph Kiner patch to a team wearing a Ralph Kiner patch. and traded from the PNC knockoff, to the real PNC...

Ashie62 Apr 25 2014 11:58 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

What did we get for Ike?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2014 12:02 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

We're still waiting for that other shoe to drop.

Edgy MD Apr 25 2014 12:04 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Patience, paduan.

Ashie62 Apr 25 2014 12:11 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

okie dokie

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2014 03:01 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Since the deal Ike: .185/.290/.333 -- 5 Hits, 1 HR, 1 2B, 7 K Lucas: .235/.308/.382 -- 8 Hits, 1 HR, 2 2B, 10 K Slight edge Mets. Neither is anything to write home about.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2014 07:36 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Well, that ruins THAT letter to Mom.

Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 12:33 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

I'm guessing that the whole PtBNL-will-arrive-after-the-draft is merely unconfirmed speculation, but I'm teeing this thread up now. I'm growing susceptible to the notion that the answer is sluggy shortstop Alen Hanson, who has been at AA for about 90 games now, searching for his lost shaker of ObP, but otherwise looks to be a well-rounded shortstop, if not a leadoff hitter.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2014 12:34 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

He'll have to change the spelling of his first name. I'll accept "Alan" or "Allen" but not "Alen". We already have a "Jenrry". We have to draw the line somewhere!

Ceetar Jun 06 2014 12:55 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Edgy MD wrote: I'm guessing that the whole PtBNL-will-arrive-after-the-draft is merely unconfirmed speculation, but I'm teeing this thread up now. I'm growing susceptible to the notion that the answer is sluggy shortstop Alen Hanson, who has been at AA for about 90 games now, searching for his lost shaker of ObP, but otherwise looks to be a well-rounded shortstop, if not a leadoff hitter. Is it one year after draft, or one year after contract is signed? we might have a few weeks yet.

Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 12:58 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Signed!

Ashie62 Jun 06 2014 04:26 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Oops, thought we got a player.

Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 04:53 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

We [u:16xwvzfm]WILL[/u:16xwvzfm] get a player. His identity just hasn't been revealed yet.

Ashie62 Jun 07 2014 11:41 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Will we get a better player if they take d'Arnaud???

Edgy MD Jun 07 2014 01:40 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Ashie Quits! Film at 11!

Ashie62 Jun 07 2014 07:19 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Since when!!!

Frayed Knot Jul 09 2014 07:15 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Trade Update: Duda (Full season) - 262 ABs; .260/.359/.485; 13 HRs Ike (Pitt portion only) - 201 ABs; .244/.357/.398; 4 HRs Quite similar until you get to the HR part - and if you're going to be Ike Davis and not hit HRs then ... Zach Thorton (since deal) -- 32 G; 39.2 IP; 45 Hits; 15 BB; 43 K; 3 HRs; 3.86 ERA; 1.51 WHiP aka: Welcome to Las Vegas. Mainly what's worse since the deal is his walk rate [3.4/9 after being a bit over 2.0 during his previous 4 minor league seasons] and his HR rate slightly [virtually none to still under 1.0/9] Blake Taylor (GC Mets) -- 3 Games, 1 Start. 10.2 IP, 1 Hit YAAAAY!, 7 BBs Booooo, 10 Ks IOW, welcome to the world of 18 y/o hurlers (turns 19 next month)

Edgy MD Jul 09 2014 07:59 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Lucas Duda since the trade: 66 G, .251 / .349 / .474 // .824, 10 HR. By the way, something's glitching at the UMDB, so as to make everybody's 2014 OBP the same as their batting averages.

Centerfield Jul 09 2014 09:21 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

That's cool. I think that the knight in Indiana Jones would say we chose wisely.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 09 2014 09:23 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Edgy MD wrote: By the way, something's glitching at the UMDB, so as to make everybody's 2014 OBP the same as their batting averages. Thanks for letting me know. I'm guessing it's just 2014 stats? I've recently had to switch to a new source of in-season data, and maybe something went awry there. I'll take a look.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 09 2014 11:53 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Centerfield wrote: That's cool. I think that the knight in Indiana Jones would say we chose wisely. You really can't go wrong choosing the simpler one that looks like it just might give you splinters.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2014 09:25 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Lucas Duda since the trade: 66 G, .251 / .349 / .474 // .824, 10 HR.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 10 2014 06:12 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Edgy MD wrote: By the way, something's glitching at the UMDB, so as to make everybody's 2014 OBP the same as their batting averages. Thanks for letting me know. I'm guessing it's just 2014 stats? I've recently had to switch to a new source of in-season data, and maybe something went awry there. I'll take a look. This has been fixed now. Thanks again for alerting me about it.

Frayed Knot Aug 27 2014 07:24 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Time to re-visit this thread again, especially since both Ike & Lucas have been in the news lately Duda - for his HR spree that's brought him to nearly the league lead Ike - for the good news of winning the game for Pitt last night with an 8th inning PH 3R HR, and the bad that the reason he was PH-ing is that he's lost his starting job. The Pirates last week decided to slide Pedro Alvarez (and his 25 Errors at 3B in < 100 games across the diamond to 1st base knocking Ike to the bench. He already had been starting only vs RHPs in a platoon with Gaby Sanchez but now it looks like Alvarez full time and probably a non-tender for Ike at the end of the season. So anyway, 2014 Y-t-D Davis = 325 PA; .238/.352/.379; 9 HRs Duda = 471 PA; .258/.352/.504; 26 HRs

Edgy MD Aug 27 2014 07:28 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Ike totally will end up as a Yankee next year --- start off pinch-hitting and defensive replacing. Then an injury will force him into the lineup where a run of warm weather and short-porch feasting will give him a solid four-to-six weeks, with Yankee fans a-gloating, before he Overbays back to earth.

HahnSolo Aug 27 2014 08:37 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Edgy MD wrote: Ike totally will end up as a Yankee next year --- start off pinch-hitting and defensive replacing. Then an injury will force him into the lineup where a run of warm weather and short-porch feasting will give him a solid four-to-six weeks, with Yankee fans a-gloating, before he Overbays back to earth. So you're saying that their regular first baseman has a problem staying on the field?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 27 2014 09:10 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Edgy MD wrote: Ike totally will end up as a Yankee next year --- start off pinch-hitting and defensive replacing. Then an injury will force him into the lineup where a run of warm weather and short-porch feasting will give him a solid four-to-six weeks, with Yankee fans a-gloating, before he Overbays back to earth. Future MFYs by % Certainty Matt Harvey 96 Ike Davis 77 Jose Reyes 76 Curtis Granderson 70 Carlos Gomez 68 Daniel Murphy 63 Lucas Duda 60 Jon Niese 57 Carlos Torres 56 Dillon Gee 53 Bartolo Colon 50 Travis dArnaud 48 Zack Wheeler 42 Josh Edgin 40 Juan Lagares 37 Jacob deGrom 36 Ruben Tejada 35 Brandon Nimmo 25 Anthony Recker 22 David Wright 3

Edgy MD Aug 27 2014 09:34 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Andrew Brown sits at about 81, I think.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 27 2014 09:55 AM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

It's a complicated formula. Odds go up as Mets' fortunes improve, so guys like Lagares and Duda could really rocket up the charts if/when the Mets make the playoffs.

sharpie Aug 27 2014 01:11 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Ike started and homered again today.

sharpie Aug 27 2014 01:45 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Shoulda added Chris Young to the MFY list as he signed a minor league deal with them today.

G-Fafif Aug 27 2014 01:49 PM Re: Ike to Pittsburgh!!

Angel Pagan 52 R.A. Dickey 43 Johan Santana 16 (but will probably sign a minor league deal within two Februarys)