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When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft)
John Cougar Lunchbucket May 29 2014 08:36 AM |
Draft 1 week from today.
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MFS62 May 29 2014 08:40 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
The best part of this draft to me is that after it, we could find out who the PTBNL is from the Ike Davis deal. That player might be better than anyone they get in this year's draft. And, they'll be able to sign Kendry Morales without giving up a draft pick.
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Ceetar May 29 2014 08:50 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Except they probably already have a 1Bman better than Morales.
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Edgy MD May 29 2014 08:59 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I think we may be setting ourselves up for disappointment if we're committed to the notion that the compensation is going to be better than any player the team drafts.
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Ceetar May 29 2014 09:09 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Probably on par with a 2nd/3rdish round pick from last year is the better comp.
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MFS62 May 29 2014 09:16 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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That's kinda' what I meant, too. They'd already have a handle on how well he has adapted to the pros, rather than an untested draftee. Later
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 29 2014 09:22 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 29 2014 09:32 AM |
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Which, unless it's great chopped liver, is better than chopped liver. Nola, Newcomb, and Evansville lefty Kyle Freeland do seem like solid, likely possibilities that would move quickly through the system (1-2 years?), which might be especially desirable considering the org's anticipated "window"-opening. Slightly further away, probably, but maybe only slightly? Grant Holmes, a high school righty with "now" stuff, a surprisingly-high floor, and a fantastic white-kid afro.
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Frayed Knot May 29 2014 09:25 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
The most common names I've seen connected to the Mets to date have been the OF Conforto or LHP Newcomb (especially Newcombe) -- although a lot of this type of speculation turns on stuff like; 'well the Mets have taken three straight HS position players so I think they'll go college pitcher this time'
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batmagadanleadoff May 29 2014 11:06 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
The Mets never drafted 10th overall.
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Frayed Knot May 29 2014 12:33 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
10th Overall picks through the years
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 29 2014 12:45 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Really solid track record of late with that 10th... a reflection of better scouting, safer strategy, or just random noise?
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Frayed Knot May 29 2014 12:55 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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I asked the staff of BA during an on-line Q&A about a year ago whether MLB teams were getting better at drafting due to better info, better scouting, or just plain experience through trial and error. Their answer was that they tended to believe things had gotten at least marginally better but at the same time admitted that it was a tough thing to prove. In this case, with such a small sample and a random limit of just #10 overall picks, any trend is probably just noise.
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Ashie62 May 29 2014 04:39 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Please draft a college bat...
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Edgy MD May 29 2014 05:08 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Please draft the player that you think has the best chance of helping you the most. over the long term, without regards to position, except insofar as position can be considered a factor with regards to the bottom line determination of who can help you the most.
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Frayed Knot May 30 2014 09:57 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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I agree ... unless they see something else they like better then draft that guy instead. On the other hand, BA thinks you might get your wish as their current 'Mock' sez: 10. METS: The Mets have been tight-lipped, but the teams around them believe they remain oriented on a bat, with [NC State SS Trea] Turner a top target. That’s even though New York has drafted a hitter in the first round five times in six selections since 2008. Pacific Northwest scout Jim Reeves signed one of them already [Nimmo], and he could get another this year. Oregon State outfielder Michael Conforto was our Mets pick in the first two mock drafts, and we’re going back to him here. Projected Pick: OF Michael Conforto
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 30 2014 10:12 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Keith Law had Conforto going as high as #4 to the Cubs, he said last nite on TV.
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Frayed Knot Jun 03 2014 09:30 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Mock of the Day, from mlb.com's Keith Law this time, links the Mets to LHP Sean Newcomb from U Hartford.
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Frayed Knot Jun 03 2014 02:39 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Thumbnail scouting reports on all the upper ranked choices including (if you believe the draftniks) those most likely to be chosen by the Mets at #10 overall.
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Edgy MD Jun 03 2014 03:37 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
If that's all I knew, I think I'd go Zimmer.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 03 2014 04:09 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Based on that, I do lean ZImmerish. (Or Turnery.)
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 10:39 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
BA's final Mock throws a wild card into the mix in Florida HS 2B Forrest Wall - someone that MLB didn't have slated until the 40s in their recent review
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Vic Sage Jun 05 2014 11:40 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I hope they'd go for college position players. Zimmer sounds alot like Nimmo, so i'd prefer a power bat like Conforto or a true leadoff SS like Turner, over pitchers like Newcombe or HS prospects like Wall.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2014 12:01 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I'm with Vic on this one. I want them to take the best available player, and I hope that player is a college position player. I'm particularly hoping for a power-hitting outfielder.
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seawolf17 Jun 05 2014 12:06 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
And I'm hoping that at some point in the middle rounds, we PICK A FUCKING GUY FROM STONY BROOK THIS YEAR.
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MFS62 Jun 05 2014 12:08 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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When I saw that I remembered the Baseball Digest Rookie Report in which one scout said that Bud Harrelson had "Good power for a shortstop". They also said, when Jose Reyes was at A ball, that "when he fills out, many of those doubles will turn into home runs". Enough projecting/ wishful thinking. Let's just draft the best player available. Later
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Edgy MD Jun 05 2014 12:18 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Gotta disagree. The best player at 21 or 18 or 16 is rarely the best player at 25.
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 12:23 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
EVERY pick involves projection of some sort.
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MFS62 Jun 05 2014 12:36 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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I know. Didn't say the Reyes one wasn't good. But I'd rather they select a player we won't have to wait too long to see develop. Later
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 12:48 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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The problem with that 'strategy' is that it essentially tosses out all HS players - and that's where a lot of the true prodigies are.
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MFS62 Jun 05 2014 01:42 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Yes, but at my age, I'd prefer not to have to wait too long. :) http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/dra ... y=news_mlb Later
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2014 01:49 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Why are all the true prodigies in high school? I don't think I've heard that before. Is it because the better players choose to start their professional careers sooner? I imagine that the lure of a big signing bonus would induce a lot of kids to opt out of going to college.
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batmagadanleadoff Jun 05 2014 02:06 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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A review of the Mets' drafts under Sandy Alderson
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2014/6/5/57 ... son-tanous
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 03:02 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Well, not ALL the true prodigies are in HS and there'll always be your late-bloomers and such. But many of those who are great from the git-go do tend to turn pro earlier so as to get a jump on both their careers and the money. Of course if there are those kind of teenagers available who are without flaws or 'what-ifs' in their resumes then everyone else knows it all along too and those guys tend to be scooped before you ever get pick #10.
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 05:26 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
HS pitchers go 1 & 2
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 05:59 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
1 - Houston - Brady Aiken
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 05 2014 06:08 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
College bat it is, and an uppercut-y one-- Conforto.
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Methead Jun 05 2014 06:09 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Love it.
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MFS62 Jun 05 2014 06:09 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I'm happy.
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 06:12 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
John Sickels sez:
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Zvon Jun 05 2014 06:12 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Looks good :)
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 06:18 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
BA chimes in:
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 05 2014 06:25 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Well, he may have been able to do so before, but he sure as hell won't now.
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Farmer Ted Jun 05 2014 06:31 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Conforto's mom is 3-time olympic gold medalist Tracie Ruiz. Synchronized swimming for the landlocked.
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Frayed Knot Jun 05 2014 07:58 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Turner & Newcomb wound up going 13th (Padres) & 15th (Angels)
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Edgy MD Jun 05 2014 08:22 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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But enough about his mom.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2014 08:39 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Where is Conforto likely to be assigned? (Assuming they sign him, of course.) Brooklyn?
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 06:32 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Yeah, I'd assume Brooklyn. Picking up newly signed draft picks, plus other assorted extended ST holdovers, is essentially why those short-season leagues exist and, as an advanced college player, it's likely for him to skip over the lower ranked GCL & Appy circuits. And then we could be cynical (who ... US?) and bring up the whole Wilpon/Brooklyn connection and about how bringing the hot new name to their mini side-project by the boardwalk could be good for the ol' bottom line. Draft picks up again today just after noon with pick #76 Mets pick next at 80
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 06:53 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Conforto has been wearing #8 at Oregon State
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2014 06:57 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I'm on board with that.
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 07:23 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Olympic Holla Famer, in fact.
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Vic Sage Jun 06 2014 07:40 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Thank you, Sandy.
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seawolf17 Jun 06 2014 08:48 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I'm happy with the pick; I wish him the best. Welcome aboard, Mike.
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MFS62 Jun 06 2014 08:52 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Hey, wait!
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seawolf17 Jun 06 2014 09:02 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
We just (sorta) traded athletic staff with Oregon State. Our Facilities/Operations guy just took a promotion to move there, and their Development guy just became our Athletics Director.
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themetfairy Jun 06 2014 09:57 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Does that mean that you're claiming Conforto as a de facto Seawolf?
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 10:02 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Hopefully it means he gets the first interview.
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 11:23 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Mets take HS shortstop Milton Ramos round two. May be best defender of the class. You want to see him take batting and fielding practice? I guess you might!!
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 11:26 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 11:26 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 11:28 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I like Edgy's scouting report where he's three inches taller than in mine (MLB.com)
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 11:32 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I like his quick release in the video above, and yeah, he does seem to have some creative flair even fielding those dinky practice grounders.
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seawolf17 Jun 06 2014 11:35 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Farmer Ted Jun 06 2014 11:52 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Let's circle back to Conforto...and his momma (article and photo!)
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 06 2014 12:02 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I would hope he's the height FK noted... because, well, 6'2"/165? Ye Gods.
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 12:21 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Eudor Garcia-Pacheco, round four, JuCo thirdbaseman. EUDOR MAN!
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metsmarathon Jun 06 2014 12:24 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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that's almost like me in high school, plus about 10-15 pounds.
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 12:55 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Going local in Round 5
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 01:16 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Mets who were Seton Hall Pirates:
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2014 01:43 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
The Mets pick a catcher named "Tyler Moore" from Louisiana State.
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 01:53 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2014 02:10 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
The only "Tyler Moore" for me is Mary.
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 02:12 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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The Nationals just sent their Tyler Moore (OF/1B) back down to the minors when they activated Ryan Zimmerman from the DL I figure that the parents of these Tyler Moores must have either watched NO television when they were younger and didn't have a clue that their kids were destined to be called 'Mary', or they watched a whole lot of it and think this kind of name is cute.
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 02:27 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Round 7/Pick 205
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seawolf17 Jun 06 2014 02:34 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
6'9", 240? That's some serious beef on Wieck.
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Edgy MD Jun 06 2014 02:36 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Got the size of a power forward, but kept getting his shots blocked.
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 02:43 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Round 5/Pick 150 to the Tigers -- Shane Todd Zeile, Catcher UCLA
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 03:12 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Round 8 / Pick # 235
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Frayed Knot Jun 06 2014 09:52 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Round 9 / Pick 265
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seawolf17 Jun 07 2014 11:11 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Seawolves catcher Kevin Krause to the Pirates in Round 9.
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Edgy MD Jun 07 2014 01:41 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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She's HOT!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2014 05:10 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2014 06:20 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
"But was she a pro?"
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2014 06:26 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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This kid is too much. Apparently hit a few out of Citifield in a workout and is pals with Daniel Muffy. Also, fat. Also, enthusiastic. He's like a big fat excited kid. Loves the Mets. Check his feed @winninghamDash
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2014 07:21 AM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
I like how he's not really fat, but has a frame and a face that says he's gonna get fat as soon as the season ends.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2014 06:52 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Fatter, and tweets about livin the dream like Jack Leathersich tweets about eatin the burritos.
Could be a John Cougar lyric.
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2014 09:21 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
[fimg=500:2880jn7y]http://www.100percentauthentic.com/pics/50768_02_lg.jpg[/fimg:2880jn7y]
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seawolf17 Jun 10 2014 12:39 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 11 2014 12:22 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Meet Josh, who has already disgraced his father's name, bought a used pick-up truck, kept a chip on his shoulder and hired his Mom to look after his $$ while he plans his midseason 2016 MLB debut.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 11 2014 12:29 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Whenever you can hire someone who's emotionally involved and more closely tied to other parties in your immediate sphere to handle some essential business function for you, you've got to do it, right?
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Farmer Ted Jun 11 2014 12:44 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
Yeah, this isn't too shady.
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Edgy MD Jun 11 2014 01:07 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
What's shady is the silly rule that bans players from college once they consult with an agent, expecting 17-year-olds to rely only on their parents to protect their interests as they make the biggest decision of their lives.
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Edgy MD Jul 11 2014 04:08 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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Michael Conforto, ready for her to let him know.
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Frayed Knot Jul 11 2014 04:46 PM Re: When you turn pro she'll let you know (2014 draft) |
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As long as it's not Rosie Ruiz-Conforto, otherwise we'd have to question whether or not it was actually her in the pool the whole time.
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