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Edgy MD May 30 2014 07:23 AM

In "Men of Letters," Uni Watch's Paul Lukas, at ESPN, looks at the Mets approach to the lower-casing issue. [list]Three primary schools of thought have emerged from these discussions: one that believes player names on jerseys should always be all caps, period; one that loves the lowercase letters; and a compromise position that advocates for the use of small caps instead of lowercase letters.[/list:u] I've said so before, but you can put me firmly in the small caps camp. That's probably a prejudice left over from my days setting headlines, but there are so few opportunities to break out a small caps typeface set, and coming up with the equivalent of a lower-case letter when you're already committed to all-caps style is exactly what those sets were made for.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 07:30 AM Re: Little d's

Reading through, it becomes clear that there is a fourth school, one characterized by Cardinal tradition, to go with all caps, but to put a space after any letter or group of letters that would be lower-cased if set in standard type: "MC GWIRE," "LA RUSSA."

Benjamin Grimm May 30 2014 07:31 AM Re: Little d's

I was just reading the article and trying to remember what the Mets did for Kevin McReynolds. Did they use a little C? Or a space? Somehow I can't picture an all upper-case MCREYNOLDS, but maybe they did...

Benjamin Grimm May 30 2014 07:32 AM Re: Little d's

Looks like a raised little C.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 07:38 AM Re: Little d's

Here's a jacket of his with the small caps "c" set in superscript. These Padre retro jerseys appear to use a lower-case "c," although a lower-case c"" and a small caps "C" have little difference in most fonts. This applies to the jacket as well. And it would hardly be surprising to find out the setting on the retro jersey doesn't match the setting the team used in 1984.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 07:40 AM Re: Little d's

Cool you beat me to the punch. I'm going to come out and say that's a superscript small cap, and not a lower-cased "c." The hard left side of the letter seems characteristic of the rendering of a capital.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 07:43 AM Re: Little d's

Small cap here: And on this sexy-assed game-used Mike DeJeannie. Black with the orange drop-shadow. batmagadanleadoff will explode if he sees that shit.

Frayed Knot May 30 2014 07:45 AM Re: Little d's

btw, how would one [u:3s2ljkwy]alphabetize[/u:3s2ljkwy] these guys? Is d'Arnaud treated strictly as starting with DAR which would put him before deGrom at DEG who slots in prior to den Dekker at DEN, or do the various apostrophes, spaces, and non spaces used here somehow throw an editorial wrench into the works.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 07:48 AM Re: Little d's

Check this out. We get the superscript small cap, but also an anomolous space in there. Mixing styles are we, Charlie Samuels? [fimg=500:17d6jtxr]http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000064/64947b_lg.jpeg[/fimg:17d6jtxr] That's on the back of a jersey with "Mets" rendered with an underswoosh on the front, so we can just assume that everybody was on drugs, and McKnight is lucky his jersey didn't say "McNIGHT" or "macKNIGHT" or "NAVARRO" on the back.

seawolf17 May 30 2014 07:57 AM Re: Little d's

They made McReynolds retro jerseys? I NEED ONE.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 08:06 AM Re: Little d's

btw, how would one alphabetize these guys? Is d'Arnaud treated strictly as starting with DAR which would put him before deGrom at DEG who slots in prior to den Dekker at DEN, or do the various apostrophes, spaces, and non spaces used here somehow throw an editorial wrench into the works. There are multiple-assed schools of thought, on this, as well, most of them valid. But The Chicago Manual of Style says to treat all punctuation in names like it isn't there, which I think is horseshit. In my bookstore shelving days, with a lot of names beginning with "O' ..." and not a few with "St. ..." I alphabetized [list=1][*]Inter-letter spaces[/*:m] [*]All inter-letter punctuation marks (period, apostrophe, hyphen)[/*:m] [*]A[/*:m] [*]B[/*:m] [*]C[/*:m] [*]...[/*:m][/list:o] My customers found what they were looking for. Foreign countries were the pre-fixes are more common certainly have different conventions, including ignoring the prefix entirely when alphabetizing. Different schools of thought, none incorrect, save the Chicago school.

Mets Guy in Michigan May 30 2014 08:12 AM Re: Little d's

So, Edgy. When you got to the St. people, did you alphabetize as if the St. was spelled out -- Saint Holmes -- so they were with the Sa... people, or the shortened version, so they'd be with the St... This was a huge fight on the 1982 Berner High School yearbook staff. I argued they should be with the Sa... people, which is what the phone books did. I lost.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 30 2014 08:13 AM Re: Little d's

Small cap here: I don't know if you can produce a photo of 2 Mets I hate more than these douchebags.

seawolf17 May 30 2014 08:18 AM Re: Little d's

Really? Why do we hate Mike DeFelice? APOSTROPHES ARE NOT LETTERS. O'Brien, Olson, O'Schwartz is alphabetical order.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 08:19 AM Re: Little d's

metsguyinmichigan wrote: So, Edgy. When you got to the St. people, did you alphabetize as if the St. was spelled out -- Saint Holmes -- so they were with the Sa... people, or the shortened version, so they'd be with the St... This was a huge fight on the 1982 Berner High School yearbook staff. I argued they should be with the Sa... people, which is what the phone books did. I lost. Treated it as it was rendered: "S-T-.-(BLANK)-etc. ..." Would be tempted to mentally spell out "SAINT" an alphabetize accordingly, but I'm just too much of a literalist. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I don't know if you can produce a photo of 2 Mets I hate more than these douchebags. I am up to this challenge.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 30 2014 08:21 AM Re: Little d's

He did something dickish once, though I can't remember what. I can only remember being surprised when they brought him back the following season, considering what a dick he'd been. The fact that he's pictured with Billy Wagner increases the Dick Factor too.

Benjamin Grimm May 30 2014 08:24 AM Re: Little d's

I had completely forgotten Billy Wagner. I was going to have to look up what pitchers wore 13 for the Mets in order to identify him.

Mets Guy in Michigan May 30 2014 08:25 AM Re: Little d's

Did Mike DeFelice, as a rook, know his place? Wagner does look approving in the photo.

seawolf17 May 30 2014 08:28 AM Re: Little d's

I don't remember hating Billy Wagner that much either, for what it's worth.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 08:29 AM Re: Little d's

Pre-Mets here, but a very high deek factor. I run the whole thing here but he's got three strikes right there in the lede. Big Purpling is my own. Arizona catcher arrested in assaults Wednesday, August 22, 2001 By Michael A. Fuoco, Post-Gazette Staff Writer Arizona Diamondbacks catcher Mike DiFelice, who has a stormy history with Pittsburgh on the baseball diamond, was arrested early yesterday outside a Strip District nightclub on charges he 1[/bigpurple] punched a female patron in the face, 2[/bigpurple] attacked another woman with a lighter and 3[/bigpurple] slugged a male parking valet. DiFelice, 32, was arrested about 1:30 a.m. outside the Area 51 club by uniformed city officers working an off-duty security detail there. He and the Diamondbacks had arrived in town Monday for a three-game series with the Pirates that began last night. A backup catcher acquired from Tampa Bay last month, DiFelice yesterday morning was lodged in the Allegheny County Jail on two counts of simple assault and single counts of indecent assault, reckless endangerment and disorderly conduct. He was arraigned later in the morning by City Magistrate Moira Harrington, who set bail at $6,000 and scheduled a preliminary hearing for Aug. 31. She also ordered DiFelice, a Philadelphia native and Florida resident, to undergo an examination by the Allegheny County Behavior Clinic at the jail. That is routine for anyone charged with a crime with a sexual component, like indecent assault. After his examination, DiFelice was released on bail about 1:30 p.m. and was in uniform at PNC Park last night with the rest of the team. He did not play. Before the game, DiFelice declined to talk about his arrest. But he issued a statement through the team: "Because this situation is currently pending in the court system, I cannot comment at this time on the advice of my attorneys." The Diamondbacks also issued a statement, saying the organization was "aware of the off-field incident" but, consistent with Major League Baseball and club policies, would not comment "until local authorities have completed a full investigation." Coincidentally yesterday, Major League Baseball suspended DiFelice and the Pirates' Kevin Young for two games each and levied undisclosed fines for an on-field fight in Phoenix last week that led to a bench-clearing brawl and the ejection of both players. The brawl occurred in the second inning after Young was thrown out at the plate and became entangled with DiFelice. Both players appealed, meaning their penalties won't start until after a hearing before Paul Beeston, baseball's chief operating officer. In his report on yesterday's incident, Officer Robert Thomas, who was working an off-duty detail outside Area 51, 2106 Penn Ave., said he was called inside the club about 1:25 a.m. to help remove a "very disorderly person." Inside, Thomas said, he saw security personnel trying to remove a "wild and unruly" man, later identified as DiFelice. He said he helped security by grabbing DiFelice's legs and pulling him outside. Once outside, DiFelice got to his feet and punched parking valet James Tramonte, 24, in the face "for no apparent reason," Thomas reported. Yesterday afternoon, Tramonte was at his North Braddock home, holding ice to his swollen lip when he learned from a reporter that the person who attacked him was a ballplayer, the same one who a week earlier had made national video highlights for fighting with Young. "All I knew was that it was somebody from Florida[/bigpurple]," Tramonte said. "He didn't say a word. He got to his feet and I was the first person he saw, I guess, and he hit me ... He stepped out of line but what happens from here is up to the judge and the police." Thomas said that after DiFelice hit Tramonte, he and fellow off-duty officer Steve Crisanti restrained him and told him he was under arrest. The officers attempted to get information from DiFelice but he swore at club security and threatened them. According to Thomas, the trouble began when DiFelice began rubbing the arms of a stranger, a 28-year-old Tarentum woman who is a body-builder. Her name is being withheld because the Post-Gazette does not identify accusers or victims in sex-related cases. DiFelice told the woman he liked her arms but the woman told him to stop. DiFelice then reached down and grabbed the woman's buttocks, police were told. A 35-year-old woman, also from Tarentum, told DiFelice to stop bothering her friend but he responded by putting a lighter to her buttocks, police reported. The first woman then pushed DiFelice away and he punched her in the face, knocking her to the ground. Security personnel grabbed DiFelice but he broke loose and ran back to the woman, who was still on the floor, and started beating her again. That's when Thomas was summoned. The woman whom DiFelice is accused of punching was treated by medics for a large cut above her eye and head pain. The other two victims declined treatment. DiFelice's antipathy with Pittsburgh dates to 1997 when he was at the center of a Pirates-Cardinals brawl after putting a hard tag on Mark Johnson, who was trying to score. That prompted both benches to empty and earned an ejection for Young for coming off the bench. Later that season, DiFelice was plunked by a Jason Schmidt pitch, and in a September game, he required stitches when he was accidentally hit in the mouth by Young's bat in his follow-through. Sports writer Robert Dvorchak contributed to this report.

Vic Sage May 30 2014 08:33 AM Re: Little d's

seawolf17 wrote: They made McReynolds retro jerseys? I NEED ONE. I hear they make good kindling for a BBQ. And useful if you run out of toilet paper.

seawolf17 May 30 2014 08:33 AM Re: Little d's

(I've always thought of "bigpurpling" as one word.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 30 2014 08:48 AM Re: Little d's

See I was right about that scuzzbag. And yet, the Mets gave him a job managing one of their low-level clubs.

Edgy MD May 30 2014 08:55 AM Re: Little d's

August 27, 2003: Mike DiFelice went Lou Pinella after he was run from a recent game against the twins. Umpire Jerry Layne called Torii Hunter safe on a play at the plate and DiFelice snapped. He got run from the game and started lobbing coolers and trash cans on the field. Look, I like a good baseball meltdown as much as the next guy, but he does know he’s mike DiFelice, right? He does know he got cut from the Diamondbacks for trying to light a woman on fire, right. Almost as surprising as a back up catcher acting like that was the fact that benches nearly cleared later in the game when AJ Pryzinski was thrown at. (What, people don’t like AJ Pryzinkski?) That Arizona arrest also cost him a World Series ring and share, apparently.

seawolf17 Jun 23 2014 09:55 AM Re: Little d's

Update: finally bought one of these on eBay after being outbid a half-dozen times.

Centerfield Jun 23 2014 02:11 PM Re: Little d's

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I don't know if you can produce a photo of 2 Mets I hate more than these douchebags. Challenge accepted!

Centerfield Jun 23 2014 02:17 PM Re: Little d's

It's easy to think of douchebag Mets. I like the challenge that we have to find a pic of two of them together. I also looked for a picture of Shane Spencer and Karim Garcia together but couldn't find one. I also considered Mike Stanton and, well, anyone else, but figured it would be mean to the other Met.