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IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Ashie62 Jun 29 2014 05:02 PM

Will the real Wheeler please step up...

batmagadanleadoff Jun 29 2014 06:32 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Can't say I've been watching these games much more than to catch a random at bat or two while whizzing by channel surfing. But thumbs up to Pittsburgh for the retro Crawfords unis and early 70's Stargell/Clemente polyester pullover tops. Same goes for the Royal Giants retros the Mets were wearing, even though Pittsburgh, as the host team, paid for those. Don't expect that from the Mets for their home fans. The seven thousand bucks the Mets'd hafta spend might break their budget for acquiring a key mid-season piece for the stretch run.

d'Kong76 Jun 29 2014 07:29 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Sound pretty tuned in for someone who wants to sound tuned out.

Ashie62 Jun 29 2014 08:57 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Ed Zachary!

Zvon Jun 29 2014 09:33 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Can't say I've been watching these games much more than to catch a random at bat or two while whizzing by channel surfing. But thumbs up to Pittsburgh for the retro Crawfords unis and early 70's Stargell/Clemente polyester pullover tops. Same goes for the Royal Giants retros the Mets were wearing, even though Pittsburgh, as the host team, paid for those. Don't expect that from the Mets for their home fans. The seven thousand bucks the Mets'd hafta spend might break their budget for acquiring a key mid-season piece for the stretch run. I have one question. Were the original Royal Giants unis really that blue? Or do modern materials make it look different?

d'Kong76 Jun 30 2014 10:19 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

It would be hard to imagine a wool uniform quite that vibrant! NY Mets at Atlanta When: 7:10 PM ET, Monday, June 30, 2014 Where: Turner Field, Atlanta, Georgia SportsDirect Inc. After a strong road trip, the Atlanta Braves attempt to bring the success home with them as they open a three-game series against the New York Mets on Monday. Atlanta completed a four-game road sweep of Philadelphia – a first for the Braves since 1964 – to polish off an 8-3 trek and now plays six consecutive home games against the struggling Mets and Arizona Diamondbacks. New York has lost four of its last five contests. Mets star David Wright has missed three consecutive games with a bruised rotator cuff and will be re-examined on Monday. New York manager Terry Collins is mildly concerned, but he doesn’t expect Wright to land on the disabled list after discussing the situation with team trainers. “He could walk in (Monday), still have discomfort and need to rest if longer – that could lead it in a different direction,” Collins told reporters. “I’m not planning on that, for sure.” TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, SNY (New York), SportSouth (Atlanta) PITCHING MATCHUP: Mets RH Zack Wheeler (3-8, 4.45 ERA) vs. Braves LH Alex Wood (6-6, 3.07) Wheeler’s up-and-down nature is personified by his last two outings. He looked splendid while tossing a three-hit shutout against Miami on June 19 before being torched for six runs and six hits in two innings against Oakland on Wednesday. Wheeler is 3-1 with a 3.94 ERA in five career starts against Atlanta, with both the loss and no-decision occurring in April. Wood returned to the majors and scattered three hits over seven scoreless innings against Houston on Wednesday. The 23-year-old began the season in the rotation and allowed six runs or fewer in six of his seven outings before being sent to the bullpen - and then down to the minors for two-plus weeks. Wood is 0-1 with a 4.05 ERA in three career starts against the Mets. WALK-OFFS: 1. Braves C Evan Gattis (back) will be re-evaluated on Monday after missing the last three games. 2. Philadelphia OF Marlon Byrd, who homered twice on Sunday, is 4-for-10 against Wood, while SS Jimmy Rollins is hitless in 11 at-bats versus the left-hander. 3. Atlanta 1B Freddie Freeman is 6-for-11 with a homer against Wheeler and RF Jason Heyward is 5-for-12 with a blast.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2014 10:42 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

d'Kong76 wrote: It would be hard to imagine a wool uniform quite that vibrant! Why? You think that wool can't be brightly colored? I know which way you must swing. Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. (NTTAWT)

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2014 10:45 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Zvon wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Can't say I've been watching these games much more than to catch a random at bat or two while whizzing by channel surfing. But thumbs up to Pittsburgh for the retro Crawfords unis and early 70's Stargell/Clemente polyester pullover tops. Same goes for the Royal Giants retros the Mets were wearing, even though Pittsburgh, as the host team, paid for those. Don't expect that from the Mets for their home fans. The seven thousand bucks the Mets'd hafta spend might break their budget for acquiring a key mid-season piece for the stretch run. I have one question. Were the original Royal Giants unis really that blue? Or do modern materials make it look different? I dunno. But some negro league uniforms were quite colorful, or garish, depending on your tastes, for the times. Those Royal Giants retros the Mets wore wouldn't look so out of place today, though. Well, maybe the top and bottom mono combo might be a bit harsh, but I'd say that every team except the Yankees wears brightly colored tops nowadays.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2014 10:50 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

d'Kong76 wrote: Sound pretty tuned in for someone who wants to sound tuned out. Does it? I don't need more than two seconds to identify an early 70's Pirate uniform, or a Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform. How much time do you need? An entire game?

d'Kong76 Jun 30 2014 10:52 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

batmagadanleadoff wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: It would be hard to imagine a wool uniform quite that vibrant! Why? You think that wool can't be brightly colored? I know which way you must swing. Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. (NTTAWT) I guess I think that polyester is shinier and vibrant than the old wool unis. I think Zvon meant the same?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2014 11:01 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

d'Kong76 wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: It would be hard to imagine a wool uniform quite that vibrant! Why? You think that wool can't be brightly colored? I know which way you must swing. Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. (NTTAWT) I guess I think that polyester is shinier and vibrant than the old wool unis. I think Zvon meant the same? Now I know for sure which way you must swing. Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. (NTTAWT)

d'Kong76 Jun 30 2014 11:27 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

On the radio broadcast yesterday they were talking about the Pirates being the first to abandon wool and go to the polyester and I think it's more vibrant than wool. I could be wrong, but that blue was pretty bright.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 30 2014 11:52 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Can't say I've been watching these games much more than to catch a random at bat or two while whizzing by channel surfing. But thumbs up to Pittsburgh for the retro Crawfords unis and early 70's Stargell/Clemente polyester pullover tops. Same goes for the Royal Giants retros the Mets were wearing, even though Pittsburgh, as the host team, paid for those. Don't expect that from the Mets for their home fans. The seven thousand bucks the Mets'd hafta spend might break their budget for acquiring a key mid-season piece for the stretch run. I have one question. Were the original Royal Giants unis really that blue? Or do modern materials make it look different? I dunno. But some negro league uniforms were quite colorful, or garish, depending on your tastes, for the times. Those Royal Giants retros the Mets wore wouldn't look so out of place today, though. Well, maybe the top and bottom mono combo might be a bit harsh, but I'd say that every team except the Yankees wears brightly colored tops nowadays. The Tigers, too. They wore a solid blue top only once or twice and it was years ago, while still at the old stadium.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 12:35 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I like the blue uni's. I hope there's not anything wrong with that.

G-Fafif Jun 30 2014 02:00 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Wrightless again: Granderson-9 Tejada-6 Murphy-4 Campbell-5 Duda-3 CYoung-7 Lagares-8 d’Arnaud-2 Wheeler-1

G-Fafif Jun 30 2014 02:03 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

David not with team in Atlanta. He decided he's tired of the lot of them and is taking a little R & R, screw you and your towels. (Actually: prescribed rest by club; will rejoin in NY on Friday to hopefully be the healthy firecracker the Mets need.)

Ashie62 Jun 30 2014 04:37 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Curtis Granderson, rf Ruben Tejada, ss Daniel Murphy, 2b Eric Campbell, 3b Lucas Duda, 1b Chris Young, lf Juan Lagares, cf Travis d'Arnaud, c Zack Wheeler, rhp B.J. Upton, cf Andrelton Simmons, ss Freddie Freeman, 1b Justin Upton, lf Jason Heyward, rf Chris Johnson, 3b Tommy La Stella, 2b Christian Bethancourt c, Alex Wood, lhp

Zvon Jun 30 2014 05:09 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

CURBOOM! That's a nice start.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 05:31 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Wheeler all dancy, but he gets through the fuhst.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 05:44 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

d'Arnaud tried to keep our streak of dumb base-running moves alive, but Simmons at SS wouldn't let him.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 06:18 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I thought it was 10 seconds. And this can be reviewed? Hmm. Yep, Murph got his heel off the bag.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 06:20 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I think Shorty caught a break there. I thought they would say he took too long to come out. Nice.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 07:09 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

It's inning #6 and 'Operation Shutdown' is well underway.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 07:11 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Well, lets give Wood a little credit. Although I have no idea how Lagares just swung through that slider. Looked fat to me.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 07:12 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Zvon wrote: I think Shorty caught a break there. I thought they would say he took too long to come out. Nice. I think that kind of reversal is freakin' ridiculous regardless of when he challenged it. Whenever replay rules are proposed the selling point is always that it'll only be used to correct the obviously blown calls. But, inevitably, it winds up getting used for micro-dissecting plays that nobody thinks were wrong in the first place.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 07:28 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: I think Shorty caught a break there. I thought they would say he took too long to come out. Nice. I think that kind of reversal is freakin' ridiculous regardless of when he challenged it. Whenever replay rules are proposed the selling point is always that it'll only be used to correct the obviously blown calls. But, inevitably, it winds up getting used for micro-dissecting plays that nobody thinks were wrong in the first place. I would prefer that umps saw these things with the eyes in their heads. Now that one, that was tough to catch at real speed. And he was off the bag. This is no surprise to me in that they have been watching and talking about how review could effect the "after" slide. Not sure if it was during a steal or an extra base hit. Course I'm okay with it here because it went for us. If the runner was a Met I would be bitchin'. I tip my cap to Collins.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 30 2014 07:42 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Are the Mets wearing anything to memorialize Frank Cashen?

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 07:44 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Are the Mets wearing anything to memorialize Frank Cashen? They're adding bow ties to their uniforms for tomorrow night's game.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 07:51 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Frayed Knot wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Are the Mets wearing anything to memorialize Frank Cashen? They're adding bow ties to their uniforms for tomorrow night's game. That is pretty damn kool. Or is that a joke? Cause they should.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:01 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

shit

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:01 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Just INVENTING ways to lose games!!

Fman99 Jun 30 2014 08:02 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Ugh. The defense is offensive.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 30 2014 08:03 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I've got a really bad feeling about this.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 30 2014 08:03 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Dammit, Hyoo-Rees.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Has anyone in NYM colors caught a ball cleanly tonight?

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Ugh, and it had to come up on Lags. Jeeze Loueeze.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

If you offered me the option of only being down by Five runs after this inning is done, I'd take it.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 30 2014 08:05 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Incredible.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:06 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Now let's see if we can walk the guy who is TRYING TO MAKE AN OUT!!!!!

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:06 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

This is the kind of game that drives me crazy.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:08 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

No big deal, it's not like they have some unhittable guy in their pen or anything.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:09 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Zvon wrote: This is the kind of game that drives me crazy. This is the kind of game that shows why we're seven games behind the Braves despite having the same run differential as they do.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:11 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I think we've discovered the cause of death for Frank Cashen.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 08:13 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Bloody...

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:13 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

The Braves should tell Upton to hit a hard one-hopper right at an infielder - it's a guaranteed two runs minimum!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 30 2014 08:17 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 30 2014 08:18 PM

Soup. Soup. Familia did make his pitches there against the last couple of guys.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 08:17 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

A lot of weird.

themetfairy Jun 30 2014 08:17 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I hat baseball.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 30 2014 08:17 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

They were asking for this kind of finish for 4 innings now.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:17 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Ooooo, that was a pretty slider. Pretty fat. Come on Familia. Work your way out of this mess you've made. WTF!?? He gets a grounder.......oh my.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 30 2014 08:18 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Absolutely incredible.

Fman99 Jun 30 2014 08:18 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

This inning sucks a million billion ethnic penises all lined up in a row.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 08:22 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Fartspace.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 30 2014 08:23 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Aw hell. That's it. We completely handed this game to the Braves on a platter.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:26 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Looks like it. I have faith in Duda on grounders and whatnot but his footwork around the bag, like on that one, is atrocious. Get Keith down there to work with him.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:27 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

The only remaining go-to Met move, now that they muffed themselves into a two-run deficit, is to score one, [u:wuu0dhip]but only one[/u:wuu0dhip], run off of Kimbrel,

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:28 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Frayed Knot wrote: The only remaining go-to Met move, now that they muffed themselves into a two-run deficit, is to score one, but only one, run off of Kimbrel, That would be the Mets I know and love, yes.

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:29 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

What's Duda got to do with things? He's the only guy in that inning who DIDN'T make an error!

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 08:31 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Abreu swung at ball four.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:33 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Frayed Knot wrote: What's Duda got to do with things? He's the only guy in that inning who DIDN'T make an error! IMO it would help if he knew the proper way to stretch. He actually made that play look worse. And played correctly he could have gotten that call.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:33 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Gah.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 08:34 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I didn't see this game on the Mets' giveaway schedule.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 30 2014 08:35 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Frayed Knot Jun 30 2014 08:37 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 30 2014 08:40 PM

What's Duda got to do with things? He's the only guy in that inning who DIDN'T make an error! IMO it would help if he knew the proper way to stretch. He actually made that play look worse. And played correctly he could have gotten that call. Except he never even touched the ball in that whole inning. There were five ground balls hit but none of them were thrown to him. Hell, most of them weren't thrown to anyone on edit: yeah there was that pointless relay throw - but the runner was about nine feet past the bag by the time the ball got there.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 08:40 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

I think they're talking about the ball Campbell muffed. That was thrown to him. The DP ball was thrown to him also.

Zvon Jun 30 2014 08:51 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

What's Duda got to do with things? He's the only guy in that inning who DIDN'T make an error! IMO it would help if he knew the proper way to stretch. He actually made that play look worse. And played correctly he could have gotten that call. Except he never even touched the ball in that whole inning. There were five ground balls hit but none of them were thrown to him. Hell, most of them weren't thrown to anyone on edit: yeah there was that pointless relay throw - but the runner was about nine feet past the bag by the time the ball got there. Yea it was the Campbell play. I consider that crucial, but I should probably look at a replay before I say things like that. I looked. It wasn't as apparent. But I'll stand by the observation. And I know there were 3 errors in the inning, thankyouverymuch.

Edgy MD Jun 30 2014 09:17 PM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

It has been said that the difference between the AAAA-ers and MLB-ers is that the former do things right 90% of the time and the latter 99% of the time. That eighth inning was a AAAA inning.

Frayed Knot Jul 01 2014 06:01 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

AAAA? That 8th inning would have needed six fewer screw-ups just to get it up to the level of Single-A

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 01 2014 07:43 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

It's just always something with these guys. The offense isn;t good enough to support crappy baserunning, bad hands, shaky relief pitching, poor managerial decisions, any amount of bad luck etc etc etc

Edgy MD Jul 01 2014 08:01 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

Frayed Knot wrote: AAAA? That 8th inning would have needed six fewer screw-ups just to get it up to the level of Single-A Well, I didn't mean to suggest that that inning, and the concentration of errors, is characteristic of high minor league play, only that those errors weren't characteristic of major leaguers --- who one would espect to show more grace under pressure. Maybe they need another vet or two. Some dick like Jayson Werth or somebody. Someone who comes in like Keith Hernandez or Donn Clendenon who sets a higher standard, so that when the bouncer comes back to Familia, he calmly knows what to do with it rather than panicking and spiking it, because he's practiced the play a thousand times before. Maybe it's just the coaching. Maybe a guy with more of a history as a disciplined and skilled fielder than Tim Teufel should be working with them. Maybe I have no clue.

Ashie62 Jul 01 2014 08:07 AM Re: IGT 6/30 Mets v. Braves Wood v, Wheeler

10 under and taking on water...