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Standing for something

Edgy MD Jun 15 2014 08:07 PM

Strange to realize after all the team has been through (and put themselves and yourselves through) in recent weeks --- [list][*]the slogfest at Philly, [/*:m] [*]the double sweeps, including one to the Cubs, [/*:m] [*]the bigshot catching prospect playing himself back to the farm, [/*:m] [*]the bigshot pitching prospect being wilder than a jungle movie, [/*:m] [*]the star thirdbaseman enjoying the mother of all slumps, [/*:m] [*]two leadoff hitters in a row getting disabled, and[/*:m] [*]two old and overweight Venezuelans who you thought a year ago were out of baseball emerging as, for now, the team's two most reliable players ---[/*:m][/list:u] the Mets could still find themselves four and a half games out of first tonight if the Angels do their angelic duty and hang on for the win over Atlanta (Anaheim currently up 3-0). Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 35 32 .522 — — Miami 35 33 .515 0.5 0.5 Washington 35 33 .515 0.5 0.5 YOUR New York Mets 31 38 .449 5.0 14.0 Philadelphia 29 38 .433 6.0 18.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB St. Louis 37 32 .536 -1.0 -1.0 Los Angeles 37 34 .521 — — Miami 35 33 .515 0.5 0.5 Washington 35 33 .515 0.5 0.5 Colorado 34 35 .493 2.0 5.0 Pittsburgh 34 35 .493 2.0 5.0 Cincinnati 33 35 .485 2.5 7.5 YOUR New York Mets 31 38 .449 5.0 22.5 Philadelphia 29 38 .433 6.0 29.5 San Diego 29 40 .420 7.0 37.5 Chicago 28 39 .418 7.0 37.5 Arizona 30 42 .417 7.5 42.5

metirish Jun 15 2014 08:12 PM Re: Standing for somethign.

Wow, I would never have thought that, as bad as they have been, a run of sorts is what is needed

Frayed Knot Jun 15 2014 08:17 PM Re: Standing for somethign.

Will be a three-way tie for the top of the division if LAA holds on to their current lead (although it's slipping away as I type).

Edgy MD Jun 16 2014 07:19 AM Re: Standings for something

Stupid Angels.

Edgy MD Jun 22 2014 10:26 PM Re: Standings for something

Squeezing one or both those Ozuna runners home would have certainly meant something. Nonethless, the team remains in a position to make a move. It's just that (1) it's increasingly hard to picture what that run would look like, and (2) they remain closer to the dog on their tails than to to the gate out of the yard. Enjoy your days off, men. Oakland will be a new test, as little impact as the games may have on the standings. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 39 35 .527 — — Atlanta 38 37 .507 1.5 1.5 Miami 37 38 .493 2.5 3.5 YOUR New York Mets 35 41 .461 5.0 11.0 Philadelphia 34 40 .459 5.0 11.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB Los Angeles 42 35 .545 -0.5 -0.5 St. Louis 41 35 .539 — — Atlanta 38 37 .507 2.5 2.5 Cincinnati 37 37 .500 3.0 3.5 Miami 37 38 .493 3.5 5.0 Pittsburgh 37 38 .493 3.5 5.0 YOUR New York Mets 35 41 .461 6.0 17.5 Philadelphia 34 40 .459 6.0 17.5 Colorado 34 41 .453 6.5 21.0 Chicago 31 42 .425 8.5 37.0 San Diego 32 44 .421 9.0 41.5 Arizona 32 47 .405 10.5 56.5

Frayed Knot Jun 23 2014 05:44 AM Re: Standings for something

A look at the NL East standings through Run Differential - with actual records and projected (pythagorean) records based on RS/RA TEAM RS/RA ACTUAL PROJ WASH +40 39 - 35 42 - 32 (1st) ATL -14 38 - 37 36 - 39 (4th) MIA +1 37 - 38 38 - 37 (2nd) PHIL -26 34 - 40 34 - 40 (5th) NYM -2 35 - 41 38 - 38 (3rd)

Edgy MD Jun 26 2014 03:44 AM Re: Standings for something

A split with a very tough team and they lose a hair in the division and wild card standings. At least they squeak ahead of Philadelphia. Pack seems to be hovering about three wins ahead of them right now. That would be a nice place to get to. The neext team immediately ahead of them is Ike Davis' Buccos, who they now go and visit. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 41 36 .532 — — Atlanta 40 37 .519 1.0 1.0 Miami 39 39 .500 2.5 4.0 YOUR New York Mets 36 42 .462 5.5 13.0 Philadelphia 35 42 .455 6.0 15.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB Los Angeles 44 36 .550 -0.5 -0.5 St. Louis 43 36 .544 — — Atlanta 40 37 .519 2.0 2.0 Cincinnati 39 38 .506 3.0 4.0 Miami 39 39 .500 3.5 5.5 Pittsburgh 39 39 .500 3.5 5.5 YOUR New York Mets 36 42 .462 6.5 20.5 Philadelphia 35 42 .455 7.0 23.5 Colorado 35 43 .449 7.5 27.0 San Diego 34 45 .430 9.0 39.0 Chicago 32 44 .421 9.5 43.5 Arizona 33 48 .407 11.0 58.5

batmagadanleadoff Jun 26 2014 10:13 PM Re: Standings for something

So the Mets are in last place, but only 5 and a half games out in a division that no one apparently wants to win and is starting to look more and more like the 1973 NL East. You could say the Mets are in it. Or you can say that even at only 5.5 games out, they're still on pace to finish close to 15 games out by season's end. My vote for most interesting 2014 Met to watch goes to Bartolo Colon. He might pitch a no-hitter, or just as likely, explode like an over-inflated balloon.

Frayed Knot Jul 11 2014 07:07 AM Re: Standings for something

By all rights--and especially by the sacred word of both Pythagoras of Samos and Bill Jamesoras of Kansas--the NY East should be a division more spread out than it is, with a clear leader, a clear bottom-feeder, and a three-way scrum for the best of the middle that'll have trouble producing a Wild Card candidate. I suspect it'll eventually wind up that way: Washington is now (mostly) healthy and has such a clear runs lead that I think they'll pull away and make this not very close by September; I'm not impressed at all with Atlanta as I don't see where an increase in their runs scored are going to come from; Miami is supposedly in a 'Go For It' mode but I'm not sure what that means realistically; and the Phils are more likely to shed parts than take new ones on. Below show each team's up to date RS/RA, their current spot and GB in the standings, and where they would be if everyone were obedient to Greeks and geeks. TEAM RS/RA POS PROJ WASH +56 T1 -- 1st --- ATL +5 T1 -- 2nd -6 MIA -4 3rd -5.5 4th -7.5 NYM +4 4th -8.0 3rd -7.0 PHI -42 5th -9.0 5th -12.0

Edgy MD Jul 11 2014 08:06 AM Re: Standings for something

Atlanta has a bullpen that can shorten games. That's got to frustrate Pythagoras at least a little.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2014 12:48 PM Re: Standing for something

It's not just the division that's tight, but the whole league, with basement dwellers like Philly and San Diego getting hot, things just tightened up a little more, with everybody within 13-ish games of each other. Thanks to Philly's run, the Mets success against Atlanta has been as much about staying out of last as it has been about closing ground on the division leaders. Anyjuice, they skidded out after my last update in this thread, and even taking three of four from Atlanta, they still haven't recovered. Within long-range striking distance of Miami, though. Let's have a big weekend. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 49 41 .544 — — Atlanta 50 42 .543 0.0 0.0 Miami 44 47 .484 5.5 11.0 YOUR New York Mets 42 50 .457 8.0 18.5 Philadelphia 41 51 .446 9.0 22.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 50 42 .543 — — San Francisco 50 42 .543 — — St. Louis 50 43 .538 0.5 0.5 Cincinnati 49 43 .533 1.0 1.5 Pittsburgh 48 44 .522 2.0 4.5 Miami 44 47 .484 5.5 18.5 YOUR New York Mets 42 50 .457 8.0 31.0 Philadelphia 41 51 .446 9.0 37.0 San Diego 40 52 .435 10.0 44.0 Chicago 39 52 .429 10.5 48.0 Colorado 39 53 .424 11.0 52.5 Arizona 39 54 .419 11.5 57.5

Centerfield Jul 11 2014 12:59 PM Re: Standing for something

I can't believe how bad Colorado is. They looked unbeatable when we saw them.

Frayed Knot Jul 11 2014 01:46 PM Re: Standing for something

Centerfield wrote: I can't believe how bad Colorado is. They looked unbeatable when we saw them. Lots of teams look unbeatable against the Mets ... and then suddenly, they're not. Funny how that happens. But, yeah, there is seemingly a huge disconnect between the Rox early and now, as posed to say the Cubs who, despite sweeping us, looked barely competent while doing so. And even with Atlanta, who the Mets have effectively played to a standstill (6-7; dead even in RS/RA) this season no matter how much the reputation continues that we're their beyotches, seem lucky to be as close to the top as they are.

Frayed Knot Jul 11 2014 02:01 PM Re: Standings for something

Edgy MD wrote: Atlanta has a bullpen that can shorten games. That's got to frustrate Pythagoras at least a little. Yeah, but no better than Washington who are busy frustrating Pythagaras in the other direction. ATL Relievers-Against: .237/.312/.328; ERA = 3.17; WHiP = 1.28 WAS Relievers-Against: .229/.300/.332; ERA = 2.68; WHiP = 1.19 And Soriano is having every bit the season Kimbrel is - shade better statistically in fact. Wonder if the differences in rep there (amongst fans, media, ASG votes) is another example of the surly (or at least the impression of being so), black, non-English speaker vs white guy gap. The bullpen angle is one that folks usually first look to when finding variations from Pythagorean predictions, but I wonder how often that argument actually holds up.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2014 02:22 PM Re: Standing for something

It's one thing. And there's the bullpen and the bullpen. I don't know if it matters in this case, but a bullpen can have a middling ERA because the back end has coughed up runs in blowouts, while the best two or three are still impenetrable with leads. Obviously, the extent is speculative. Another thing I guess (and yeah, I'm speculating) can help a team outperform Pythagorean projections is a solid defense, which Atlanta has most of the way around the diamond.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2014 11:13 PM Re: Standing for something

Pretty glorious night. Not only did the Mets win, but every team ahead of them in the division standings lost, knocking a game off their deficit and three off their net deficit. In the Wild Card race, three of six teams ahead of them lost, knocking three games off their 31-game net deficit.

Edgy MD Jul 13 2014 07:31 PM Re: Standing for something

Unfortunately, Philadelphia hasn't been cooperating with the Mets recent surge, losing the last two to Washington, so while the Mets have knocked four and a half games off their deficit in the Net column since our update before this series, they've only gained a single game in the Games Back Column. Next team to set your sights on is Pittsburgh, four games ahead in the Wild Card. They, like the Mets, open after the break against a bottom-feeder --- the Rockies. Hope that Colorado finds themselves. The Marlins, now a hair behind the Mets, open against the Giants, current Wild Card co-leaders, on Friday. Root Miami! Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 51 42 .548 — — Atlanta 52 43 .547 0.0 0.0 YOUR New York Mets 45 50 .474 7.0 14.0 Miami 44 50 .468 7.5 15.5 Philadelphia 42 53 .442 10.0 25.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 52 43 .547 0.0 0.0 San Francisco 52 43 .547 — — St. Louis 52 44 .542 0.5 0.5 Cincinnati 51 44 .537 1.0 1.5 Pittsburgh 49 46 .516 3.0 7.5 YOUR New York Mets 45 50 .474 7.0 23.5 Miami 44 50 .468 7.5 26.0 Philadelphia 42 53 .442 10.0 41.0 San Diego 41 54 .432 11.0 48.0 Chicago 40 54 .426 11.5 52.0 Colorado 40 55 .421 12.0 56.5 Arizona 40 56 .417 12.5 61.5

Edgy MD Jul 24 2014 10:12 AM Re: Standing for something

Notes on standings: [list][*]Los Angeles has ceded first place in the West to the San Franciscos, who don't look so hot on paper and deserve a lot of credit, so they are now your Wild Card co-leaders along with the Braves. [/*:m] [*]The Pirates, who were directly in front of the Mets when we last updated, have come out of the break swinging their cutlasses, leapfrogging a lot of red seas in the last week, passing St. Louis and Cincinnati. [/*:m] [*]The Reds are now what the Mets and their supporters need to fix their gaze on. Those very same Redlegs have lost six in a row, including three to these division-leading Brewers we're about to up against. They take their scarlet hosery back home next to host the Nats. So if we TCB against the Brewers (no small task), we'll gain in one race or the other. [/*:m] [*]The Roxx, who we could do almost nothing against when we visited them earlier in the season, opened the second half by dropping five straight, allowing Philadelphia, Chicago, and Arizona to all pass them. They now have the worst record in the league, and you can hardly blame rival GMs hoping to pick some meat off of their corpse. Rumors speak of bitter philosophical differences between manager Walt Weiss and the suits over him. Something's likely to give soon in the leadership, and one wonders if playing personnel could follow any leadership change. [/*:m] [*]Mets have lost one game (but only one game net) in the Eastern Division standings since the new season started. Tough time to be going up against a hot division leader like Milwaukee as they fight for their continued existence, but it's a competitive business. The good news is that they've treaded water in the GB column and gained an invisible but very real game and a half in the NGB column in Wild Card standings. Hopefully Sandy notes that.[/*:m][/list:u] Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 55 44 .556 — — Atlanta 55 46 .545 1.0 1.0 YOUR New York Mets 48 53 .475 8.0 15.0 Miami 47 53 .470 8.5 16.5 Philadelphia 43 58 .426 13.0 34.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 55 46 .545 — — Los Angeles 56 47 .544 — — Pittsburgh 54 47 .535 1.0 1.0 St. Louis 54 47 .535 1.0 1.0 Cincinnati 51 50 .505 4.0 10.0 YOUR New York Mets 48 53 .475 7.0 22.0 Miami 47 53 .470 7.5 24.5 San Diego 44 56 .440 10.5 42.5 Arizona 44 58 .431 11.5 49.5 Philadelphia 43 58 .426 12.0 53.5 Chicago 41 58 .414 13.0 62.5 Colorado 41 60 .406 14.0 72.5

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2014 10:23 AM Re: Standing for something

Tulowitzski onto the DL for the Rockies too. Smell them later. To my way of thinking, Mets (and SHaMs) have twice been on the brink of completely falling out of it -- when they began that last series vs. Bravos at home, and just yesterday where they were staring at 2-4 vs. so-so competition out of the ASB and they've come through both times. No question they can't afford fewer than 2 wins this weekend.

Frayed Knot Jul 24 2014 10:39 AM Re: Standing for something

The Reds have been sub-.500 in each month this year except for June when they somehow turned in an 18-10. Now they find themselves missing both Votto & Brandon Phillips which obviously blows a big whole in their lineup. But even beyond that, they just plain look awful all around. I saw maybe 4 innings of them in the last week or so but it was enough to witness Chapman blow a game and their D drop at least three pop-ups.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2014 11:36 AM Re: Standing for something

6 in a row dropped for the Chili-Scarfers-- including the last three to a not-so-hot-of-late Brew Crew-- and, yeah, they haven't looked at all competitive in doing so.

TransMonk Jul 24 2014 11:48 AM Re: Standing for something

I think the Reds have the best pitching in the NL Central, but they have to find a way to get all the pieces in their lineup active at the same time in order to make a run.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2014 11:49 AM Re: Standing for something

Eff the Reds, by the way. They're becoming to me like some half-assed version of the Cardinals.

Frayed Knot Jul 24 2014 02:10 PM Re: Standing for something

Nothing to do with the NL, but do you know who else suxx? ... the Rangers! They just scored a whopping total of EIGHT runs vs the Yanx while losing three times in a four-game series. Yeah they were shorted four innings there by Wednesday's rain-out (which inconveniently came during a Darvish start) but they still suck and are now in last place three games behind Houston (who would have called THAT prior to the season?)

Edgy MD Jul 27 2014 09:37 PM Re: Standing for something

First the bad news: While we may be happy to get away with a split against the top team that is Milwaukee, the Marlins were beating the snot out of the Astros, so they took this happy time to pull a game and a half ahead of the Mets. Even Philadelphia, who I fully expect to struggle for the next several years, has been closing ground. Time to put a stop to that. Then the not-so-bad news: The Mets have held steady in the Wild Card race, maintaining their seven-game defecit, while losing only one game of ground in the NGB column. Still not heading in the right direction, though. A glorious time to be free right now. Let's express that joyous freedom with a romp over Philadelphia. Miami heads to Washington, so if the Mets TCB, they'll gain on somebody. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 57 45 .559 — — Atlanta 57 48 .543 1.5 1.5 Miami 51 53 .490 7.0 12.5 YOUR New York Mets 50 55 .476 8.5 17.0 Philadelphia 46 59 .438 12.5 33.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB San Francisco 57 48 .543 0.0 0.0 Atlanta 57 48 .543 — — St. Louis 56 48 .538 0.5 0.5 Pittsburgh 55 49 .529 1.5 2.5 Cincinnati 52 52 .500 4.5 11.5 Miami 51 53 .490 5.5 15.5 YOUR New York Mets 50 55 .476 7.0 23.0 San Diego 46 58 .442 10.5 44.0 Philadelphia 46 59 .438 11.0 47.5 Arizona 45 60 .429 12.0 55.5 Colorado 53 61 .465 8.5 24.0 Chicago 52 61 .460 9.0 29.0

Edgy MD Jul 31 2014 08:14 AM Re: Standing for something

Marlins keep pace with the Mets as both win their series, but they both gain a game on Washington and Atlanta. Two games shaved off in the net column. On the Wild side, the Mets move up one in the GB column and a giddy 3.5 in the NGB column. Hard to see if this a more realistic dream than the division. But Pittsburgh, who was just within striking distance of the Mets coming out the break, is now within a half a game of WC leaders San Francisco and Atlanta. If they can do it, so can the Mets, who, you may have heard, have the current advantage at first base. Jockeying among the pack behind Mets, but nobody gains on them. We should basically be root-root-rooting for the Padres/Diamondbacks/Phillies/Cubs/Rockies at this point, because if any of them were to actually challenge the Mets in the standings, the jig would be up. So consider them allies in picking off frontrunners. As the Mets follow an off-day with a three game tilt against Wild Card leaders San Fran, the Marlins lock up starting today for four games against the Reds. As both sit a game and a half in front of the Mets, at least one will be available for the picking. Again, that's IF the Mets TCB. I find myself forced to tell you to suck it up and root for the Reds here, as Miami sits in front of us in two races. And the Marlins are young and talented, but green. Can't let a team like that keep building up cahnfidence. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 58 47 .552 — — Atlanta 58 50 .537 1.5 1.5 Miami 53 54 .495 6.0 10.5 YOUR New York Mets 52 56 .481 7.5 15.0 Philadelphia 47 61 .435 12.5 35.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB San Francisco 58 50 .537 0.0 0.0 Atlanta 58 50 .537 — — Pittsburgh 57 50 .533 0.5 0.5 St. Louis 56 50 .528 1.0 1.5 Cincinnati 53 54 .495 4.5 12.0 Miami 53 54 .495 4.5 12.0 YOUR New York Mets 52 56 .481 6.0 19.5 San Diego 48 59 .449 9.5 40.5 Arizona 47 61 .435 11.0 51.0 Philadelphia 47 61 .435 11.0 51.0 Chicago 44 62 .415 13.0 69.0 Colorado 44 63 .411 13.5 74.0

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2014 07:15 PM Re: Standing for something

Lost weekend, hell, lost WEEK, for the Braves out in SoCal as they first got themselves swept out of LA and then got swept out of SD, scoring a total of just 13 runs in the process. Three of the six losses came via extra-inning walk-offs (like there's any other way to lose an extra-inning game on the road). Marlins lost 3 of 4 to Cincy. Nats and Phils split their four-game series. Rest of the division gets the day off tomorrow while we finish things off w/San Fran, with the exception of the Nats hosting a one-game make-up with the Orioles.

Edgy MD Aug 05 2014 06:56 PM Re: Standing for something

Hesitant to post a standings update after a lousy series, but it's modestly heartening to find the team still in control of their fates --- just with, you know, four fewer games to control it. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 60 50 .545 — — Atlanta 58 54 .518 3.0 3.0 Miami 54 57 .486 6.5 10.0 YOUR New York Mets 53 59 .473 8.0 14.5 Philadelphia 49 63 .438 12.0 30.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB San Francisco 61 51 .545 -1.0 -1.0 St. Louis 59 51 .536 — — Pittsburgh 59 52 .532 0.5 0.5 Atlanta 58 54 .518 2.0 3.5 Cincinnati 56 56 .500 4.0 9.5 Miami 54 57 .486 5.5 15.5 YOUR New York Mets 53 59 .473 7.0 23.0 San Diego 51 60 .459 8.5 32.0 Arizona 49 63 .438 11.0 49.5 Philadelphia 49 63 .438 11.0 49.5 Chicago 47 63 .427 12.0 58.5 Colorado 44 67 .396 15.5 93.5

batmagadanleadoff Aug 05 2014 07:07 PM Re: Standing for something

Edgy MD wrote: Hesitant to post a standings update after a lousy series, but it's modestly heartening to find the team still in control of their fates It's only August 5th. Why wouldn't the Mets still control their destiny? Even the '62 Mets were still alive mathematically on August 5th.

Edgy MD Aug 05 2014 07:17 PM Re: Standing for something

Because I wasn't speaking merely literally, Seρor Literal.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 05 2014 07:55 PM Re: Standing for something

OK. Then we're good.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 05 2014 09:36 PM Re: Standing for something

I wouldn't go so far as to say we're good. "Intermittently decent," maybe.

Edgy MD Aug 06 2014 06:34 AM Re: Standing for something

But a game closer to first place this August morning.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 11:43 PM Re: Standing for something

Youse wanna wave the white flag, at least do when and if the team collapses before the Nats this week. The Flushings beat the Naminals, they make a big splash in the division, especially if the Braves continue to flounder. If they don't, there's a good chance the surging Padres catch 'em from behind. Big ol' week o' baseball. You look at that NGB column and you see, the team is actually gaining incrementally while seeming to stand still. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 63 53 .543 — — Atlanta 60 58 .508 4.0 4.0 Miami 58 60 .492 6.0 8.0 YOUR New York Mets 57 62 .479 7.5 12.5 Philadelphia 53 66 .445 11.5 28.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB Pittsburgh 63 55 .534 -0.5 -0.5 St. Louis 62 55 .530 — — San Francisco 62 56 .525 0.5 0.5 Atlanta 60 58 .508 2.5 4.5 Cincinnati 60 58 .508 2.5 4.5 Miami 58 60 .492 4.5 12.5 YOUR New York Mets 57 62 .479 6.0 20.0 San Diego 55 62 .470 7.0 26.0 Philadelphia 53 66 .445 10.0 47.0 Arizona 51 67 .432 11.5 59.0 Chicago 50 67 .427 12.0 63.5 Colorado 46 72 .390 16.5 108.5

Ceetar Aug 12 2014 08:15 AM Re: Standing for something

it appears the Mets have played 3 more games than the Nats as well. So couple a big series here with a less hectic schedule.

Edgy MD Aug 27 2014 06:30 AM Re: Standing for something

I haven't posted an update in a bit --- I've switched computers, and don't have my template on the new one --- but you know which direction your team has been going. But not last night. Last night, almost every good thing that could happen, happened, with the Mets winning, and every team in front of them in the division losing, as well as four of the teams in front of them in the wild card. Keep winning, Philly! Get with the program, Colorado! Madison Bumgarner totally garnered your bums last night and handed them to you. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 75 56 .573 — — Atlanta 68 64 .515 7.5 7.5 Miami 65 66 .496 10.0 12.5 YOUR New York Mets 62 70 .470 13.5 23.0 Philadelphia 60 72 .455 15.5 31.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB St. Louis 71 60 .542 -2.0 -2.0 San Francisco 69 62 .527 — — Atlanta 68 64 .515 1.5 1.5 Pittsburgh 68 64 .515 1.5 1.5 Miami 65 66 .496 4.0 9.0 Cincinnati 63 69 .477 6.5 19.0 YOUR New York Mets 62 70 .470 7.5 24.0 San Diego 61 70 .466 8.0 27.0 Philadelphia 60 72 .455 9.5 37.5 Chicago 59 72 .450 10.0 41.5 Arizona 55 77 .417 14.5 82.0 Colorado 53 78 .405 16.0 97.0 Jacob Turner, acquired from the Marlins a few weeks ago, makes his first start on the hill for the Cubs today. More eyes will be on rookie outfielder Jorge Soler, Cuban signee who has torn it up in the minors and is debuting for the Northside today. Beat them Reds, Cubbies.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 01:03 PM Re: Standing for something

Hey, did you know we dipped behind San Diego? Well, we did. Would be nice to undo that. This SHaMarlin team we're playing now is where the SHaMets should be, if the hitting didn't fold, edgin' into the periphery of the Wild Card race. We can un-make that and hopefully get some traction against them that, if it means little up front, could carry over into 2015 when both teams get an ace pitcher back from surgery. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 77 58 .570 — — Atlanta 72 65 .526 6.0 6.0 Miami 66 69 .489 11.0 16.0 YOUR New York Mets 64 73 .467 14.0 25.0 Philadelphia 62 74 .456 15.5 31.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB San Francisco 74 62 .544 -1.0 -1.0 St. Louis/Milwaukee 73 63 .537 — — Atlanta 72 65 .526 1.5 1.5 Pittsburgh 71 65 .522 2.0 2.5 Miami 66 69 .489 6.5 16.0 Cincinnati 66 71 .482 7.5 20.0 San Diego 64 71 .474 8.5 25.0 YOUR New York Mets 64 73 .467 9.5 31.0 Philadelphia 62 74 .456 11.0 41.5 Chicago 61 76 .445 12.5 53.5 Arizona 57 79 .419 16.0 85.0 Colorado 54 82 .397 19.0 115.0

Edgy MD Sep 03 2014 07:47 AM Re: Standing for something

Don't look now, but Milwaukee is totally tanking, looking a lot like the team we maybe thought they'd look like at the beginning of the season. They've lost seven in a row and all of what seemed to be a healthy lead in the NL Central. They're now two games behind the Cards (winners of four straight) and only 1.5 ahead of the Braves for the second Wild Cardy spot. A lot of hot potato going on with that second Wild Card spot. Anybody who approaches it immediately falls back. San Diego, winners of seven of their last 10 and enjoying a visit from Arizona, are hoping to make the next run, but time runs short.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2014 01:37 PM Re: Standing for something

* Braves finally get some runs this afternoon and take the final game of their series w/Philly after getting just 0 and 3 [u:37vv1cqp]hits[/u:37vv1cqp] in the first two. * Brewers and their 7 game losing streak has not only knocked them out of 1st place in the NLC for the first time since April is also exposes them as a sub-.500 team since the end of April They're also just a game from being dropped from the 2nd WC slot at this point. * Pirates & Cards scoreless in the 7th in St Loo IN NYM-related news, Pitt mgr Clint Hurdle sent the just-recalled Chase d'Arnaud in to pinch-run for Ike Davis

Edgy MD Sep 03 2014 01:58 PM Re: Standing for something

The Brewers might join the Brewers and become the second playoff-bound-but-floundering team ever to can their manager with two weeks to go in the season, entering the playoffs with a dude with "interim" in front of this name.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 03 2014 02:00 PM Re: Standing for something

That the SHaMs went halvesies in a home 4-game series with them was not a good sign for the Brewcrew.

Ashie62 Sep 03 2014 02:05 PM Re: Standing for something

The Cardinals seem to usually edge others out in these tight spots and annoyingly so.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2014 02:54 PM Re: Standing for something

And they did again today, beating Pitt via a 2-out/9th inning/walk-off single that somehow scored Yadier Molina from 2nd (it usually takes a triple to score him). Pirates seem to be running into a ton of bad luck lately. Their last six losses have been via five one-run losses and one two-run defeat. Looked at another way, they're 6-6 over their last 12 games even though they're +13 in runs scored during that time.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2014 08:58 PM Re: Standing for something

St. Louis cockpunches Pittsburgh with a 1-0 victory off a Peter Bourjous walkoff hit in the ninth. Milwaukee continuing to swoon, down 6-2 to the Cubs in the ninth.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2014 11:02 PM Re: Standing for something

Tonight's win enables the Mets to tie the Padres and the Reds in the win column. Hopefully they both stay within striking distance during the game off. Framazingly, by taking this series the team gains two in the Wild Card race. Too bad they had to go and give away a win during it, or it might have sparked an imagination or two. Division play would suggest the Mets ought to be in third, beating up on the Phils, handling the Marlins more or less, getting handled by the Braves more or less, and getting beat up on by the Nats. It usually doesn't work out so... semetrically. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 79 59 .572 — — Atlanta 73 67 .521 7.0 7.0 Miami 67 71 .486 12.0 17.0 YOUR New York Mets 66 74 .471 14.0 23.0 Philadelphia 64 75 .460 15.5 29.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB San Francisco 76 64 .543 -2.5 -2.5 Milwaukee 73 66 .525 — — Atlanta 73 67 .521 0.5 0.5 Pittsburgh 71 68 .511 2.0 3.5 Miami 67 71 .486 5.5 14.0 San Diego 66 72 .478 6.5 18.0 Cincinnati 66 73 .475 7.0 20.5 YOUR New York Mets 66 74 .471 7.5 23.5 Philadelphia 64 75 .460 9.0 34.0 Chicago 64 76 .457 9.5 38.0 Arizona 58 81 .417 15.0 87.5 Colorado 55 84 .396 18.0 117.5

Frayed Knot Sep 04 2014 10:26 AM Re: Standing for something

What a ridiculous game in LA yesterday as a 2-0 Dodgers lead after 8 winds up 8-5 Nationals win - LA closer Kenley Jansen is unable to hold the 2-run lead, giving up 2 on a PH/2R HR by Adam LaRoche and later a go-ahead single by Denard Span - Nats closer Soriano returns the favor as Justin Turner's 2-out, game-ending fly ball is dropped by Jayson Werth allowing the tying run to score - Dodgers load the bases w/one out in the bottom of the 10th but can't score (consecutive Ks by A Gonzalez & J Uribe) - Nats leave runners on 2nd & 3rd in top 11 - Dodgers again load the bases w/1 out in bottom 11 but again fail (Butera & Gordon this time) - LaRoche with a 2-run single in the 12th gives the Nats a 5-3 lead - Nats bring in Tyler Clippard to close it out which works right up until Carl Crawford's 2-out/2R HR - Dodgers leave the winning run on 3rd in the 13th - Nats score three times in top 14, triggered by a Justin Turner error, and then close out LA in the bottom half Various oddities - 18 pitchers were use (Wash = 10, LA = 8) Welcome to September baseball - and that doesn't even include the pitcher that Washington used as a PH - The Nats used 15 players in the 9th slot of the lineup: 10 pitchers + 5 PHs - The original Dodgers 2-0 lead was courtesy of a 7th inning Justin Turner 2R HR. This was only after Mattingly had challenged a non-call on a HBP. they lost the challenge so Justin's AB continued. The red-head was in the middle of a lot of this game. - Adam LaRoche went 2-3 w/5 RBIs even though he didn't enter the game until the 9th inning. He didn't start because he was injured. 5:34

Gwreck Sep 04 2014 11:24 AM Re: Standing for something

It still baffles me that MLB won't require teams, in the age of expanded rosters, to elect a set 25 players to be eligible for any one game.

Ceetar Sep 04 2014 11:31 AM Re: Standing for something

Gwreck wrote: It still baffles me that MLB won't require teams, in the age of expanded rosters, to elect a set 25 players to be eligible for any one game. I assume it's part of the CBA? If they did this, teams probably wouldn't call up prospects on 9/1, leaving them in the minors through end of season/playoffs (if at all) and then they wouldn't get the major league pay day, plus there would be a ton of end of the season manipulation of service time.

Edgy MD Sep 04 2014 11:36 AM Re: Standing for something

There would still be teams burning through long benches and deep bullpens. If teams could scratch a player from the eligibility roster on a daily basis, the first four guys they'd put on the taxi squad would be the four starting pitchers not going that day.

Ceetar Sep 04 2014 11:47 AM Re: Standing for something

Edgy MD wrote: There would still be teams burning through long benches and deep bullpens. If teams could scratch a player from the eligibility roster on a daily basis, the first four guys they'd put on the taxi squad would be the four starting pitchers not going that day. Also, the relievers they burned out yesterday. Always have 7 -10 fresh arms. it's basically more hassle to try to put in a rule like that than it's worth probably. Unless you just didn't expand at all.

Gwreck Sep 04 2014 11:55 AM Re: Standing for something

Edgy MD wrote: There would still be teams burning through long benches and deep bullpens. If teams could scratch a player from the eligibility roster on a daily basis, the first four guys they'd put on the taxi squad would be the four starting pitchers not going that day. Yes, I realize this. This would still be a step in the right direction.

Vic Sage Sep 04 2014 12:46 PM Re: Standing for something

Start with 30 players in April, while guys are still trying to win jobs and get over post-season surgeries, and pitchers aren't really able to go deep, and the weather is bad. Then, cut the roster to 25 on May 1, and keep it there through the end of the year. This way, guys still get major-league service time, and a greater shot at winning a job, but teams don't start screwing around with their rosters just as pennant races heat up in September, when the playing field should be as level as possible and teams that are out of it don't just play their kids to see what they've got for next year without much concern for Ws and Ls down the stretch.

Frayed Knot Sep 04 2014 12:53 PM Re: Standing for something

They should at least start by capping the call-ups. I'd argue for no more than 5, but 3, 5, 7, I don't care, I'm open to compromise but put some limit on it. And if it takes a compromise with the players by expanding the roster by a few spots in early April [oe: see Vic's post above] then it's a win-win as far as I'm concerned. As far as designating--NHL style--a certain amount of not-eligible for that day's game, a rule dictating that only post-Sept 1 call-ups are eligible for that one day in/one day out shuffle would solve most if not all of the shenanigans mentioned here. Anyone else who was on the roster as of Aug 31 can still only be removed via normal DL or DFA channels.

Ceetar Sep 04 2014 01:00 PM Re: Standing for something

of course, the other question is, why limit rosters? who cares? Why is having the 9th guy on the relief depth chart in the game something we need to avoid?

Edgy MD Sep 04 2014 01:03 PM Re: Standing for something

Because when somebody with a life to get back to has waited over five hours for the outcome of a game, only to see a guy he never heard of fumble the game away by playing like the minor leaguer he really is, the league is asking more from her fans than she is giving.

Ceetar Sep 04 2014 01:30 PM Re: Standing for something

Edgy MD wrote: Because when somebody with a life to get back to has waited over five hours for the outcome of a game, only to see a guy he never heard of fumble the game away by playing like the minor leaguer he really is, the league is asking more from her fans than she is giving. I disagree.

Frayed Knot Sep 04 2014 01:54 PM Re: Standing for something

Ceetar wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Because when somebody with a life to get back to has waited over five hours for the outcome of a game, only to see a guy he never heard of fumble the game away by playing like the minor leaguer he really is, the league is asking more from her fans than she is giving. I disagree. I see, so you want longer games AND lesser quality!

Ceetar Sep 04 2014 02:39 PM Re: Standing for something

Frayed Knot wrote: Ceetar wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Because when somebody with a life to get back to has waited over five hours for the outcome of a game, only to see a guy he never heard of fumble the game away by playing like the minor leaguer he really is, the league is asking more from her fans than she is giving. I disagree. I see, so you want longer games AND lesser quality! No, but those are the extreme cases, and it's sorta like the exception that proves the rule. Baseball dominates life and part of that sometimes is those drawn out long games that go on for ever. That 2010 20 inning game against the Cardinals is burned into everyone's memory in an otherwise worthless season for example. It's sorta like a purple heart. a badge of honor. And the intense debate that rages over these things is part of the strength of baseball fandom. "That guy shouldn't even be in the majors!" "He throws 95! He could figure it out!" "Well he ain't figuring it out now. Throw a strike already!" I'd wager there are more people that will look back fondly on that LA/Was game last night then will grumble about it. Engaged fans don't grumble about the game still going on, they turn it off or leave. If you want a quick nip of sports entertainment in a pre-defined block at a convenient time with not too many games up against each other to steal you away from 'real life', try the NFL.

Edgy MD Sep 04 2014 02:52 PM Re: Standing for something

The 2010 20-inning game was a horror. The Mets won and Jerry Manuel still should have been fired the next day.

Edgy MD Sep 04 2014 10:30 PM Re: Standing for something

The Mets had the night off --- in fact the whole NL East did --- but it's worth posting the standings again before the Cincinnati series anyhow, because the Mets, by doing nothing, had a very successful night. The Brewers lost --- again --- pulling Atlanta into a tie for the second Wild Card spot and the Mets within 7 games; and the Padres and Reds lost as well, pulling the Mets into a tie for sixth place, and within a game of fifth. Team W L PCT GB NGB Washington 79 59 .572 — — Atlanta 73 67 .521 7.0 7.0 Miami 67 71 .486 12.0 17.0 YOUR New York Mets 66 74 .471 14.0 23.0 Philadelphia 64 75 .460 15.5 29.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB San Francisco 76 64 .543 -3.0 -3.0 Milwaukee 73 67 .521 — — Atlanta 73 67 .521 0.0 0.0 Pittsburgh 71 68 .511 1.5 3.0 Miami 67 71 .486 5.0 13.5 San Diego 66 73 .475 6.5 19.5 Cincinnati 66 74 .471 7.0 22.0 YOUR New York Mets 66 74 .471 7.0 22.0 Philadelphia 64 75 .460 8.5 32.5 Chicago 64 76 .457 9.0 36.5 Arizona 59 81 .421 14.0 81.5 Colorado 56 84 .400 17.0 111.5 Hoping for the good Bartolo tomorrow.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2014 09:13 PM Re: Standing for something

Francisco Rodriguez on for the ninth for the Brews with a four-run lead. Yadi starts off with a single.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2014 09:14 PM Re: Standing for something

Wong follows with a base hit of his own, and the tying run is on deck.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2014 09:17 PM Re: Standing for something

Bourjos goes down hacking at ball four.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2014 09:19 PM Re: Standing for something

Descalso grounds to first for the fielders choice at second. Two away.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2014 09:21 PM Re: Standing for something

And AJ lines a soft one to left. Brewers end the losing streak. K-Rod gets pissed at somebody, benches clearing to get his stupid hot head back to the dugout.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2014 09:25 PM Re: Standing for something

Atlanta clubbed, 11-3, by the Marlins and lose their share of the last Wild Card spot. Philly goes up 8-7 in the eleventh over Washington. We're finished in Colorado. The Pads fall to the Rox, 3-0. Mets pass both the Redlegs and the Friars in one evening.

Edgy MD Sep 06 2014 05:37 AM Re: Standing for something

Pretty durn good night. Woulda been better if Milwaukee kept losing. Right now, that's the key to the whole shebang, and it's out of the Mets' power. But catching two teams in one night is pretty excellent. It's been weeks and weeks since they did that. And it's high time they reached out and caught some Fish. If they merely do that, it's a meaningful step forward. I've added two new columns in the Wild Card standings, allowing us to view team's games back and net games back behind the first Wild Card Team and the same behind the second Wild Card team. I've also added the two "heat" columns on the right of both sets of standings, demonstrating the teams' records in their last 10 games and their current streak. Amazing how most teams, no matter how dire or rosy things look in the moment, tend to be 4-6, 5-5, or 6-4 in their last 10. Anyhow, adding the current streak to the number of wins in the last 10, the Mets join the hard-charging Giants as the two hottest teams in the league, with heat factors of 9. GO METS! Team W L PCT GB NGB L10 STRK Washington 79 60 .568 — — 4-6 L1 Atlanta 73 68 .518 7.0 7.0 5-5 L1 Miami 68 71 .489 11.0 15.0 4-6 W1 YOUR New York Mets 67 74 .475 13.0 21.0 6-4 W3 Philadelphia 65 75 .464 14.5 27.0 7-3 W1 Team W L PCT GB1 NGB1 GB2 NGB2 L10 STRK San Francisco 77 64 .546 — — +3.0 +3.0 8-2 W1 Milwaukee 74 67 .525 3.0 3.0 — — 1-9 W1 Atlanta 73 68 .518 4.0 5.0 1.0 1.0 5-5 L1 Pittsburgh 71 68 .511 5.0 6.0 2.0 3.0 4-6 L4 Miami 68 71 .489 8.0 15.0 5.0 12.0 4-6 W1 YOUR New York Mets 67 74 .475 10.0 23.0 7.0 20.0 6-4 W3 San Diego 66 74 .471 10.5 25.5 7.5 22.5 6-4 L3 Cincinnati 66 75 .468 11.0 28.5 8.0 25.5 3-7 L4 Philadelphia 65 75 .464 11.5 32.0 8.5 29.0 7-3 W1 Chicago 64 76 .457 12.5 40.0 9.5 37.0 6-4 W3 Arizona 59 82 .418 18.0 89.5 15.0 86.5 4-6 L1 Colorado 57 84 .404 20.0 109.5 17.0 106.5 4-6 W2

Frayed Knot Sep 06 2014 06:48 AM Re: Standing for something

Edgy MD wrote: Philly goes up 8-7 in the eleventh over Washington. They've got enough of a lead to where it almost certainly won't matter in the long run (esp w/Atlanta reeling) but what a brutal loss for the Nats. - Up 5-0 against the last place club w/Strasberg on the mound, Matt Williams pulled him after 6 IP/95 pitches only to see the Phils chip away against four relievers to get things to 7-4 in the 9th - closer Soriano then blows the 3-run save via a 2R HR by Ruiz on an 0-2 count, then a 2-out, game-tying HR by Ben (1 HR in my entire 2,000 AB career) Revere - then Philly's game-winning rally in the 11th starts when Harper runs into Denard Span on a routine fly ball putting the leadoff batter on 2nd. Span did not look happy with young Bryce. Phils go on to score twice with both runs unearned thanks to the OF gaff, before Papelbon does the 1 walk + 2 hits save act, finally getting Harper for the final out w/2 on Between the blown leads, the game-losing error, the Eight relievers who couldn't close out what was looking like an easy cruise, and the 4-1/2 hour game time on a hot night, that could not have been a happy clubhouse afterward, even with the comfortable lead and Braves loss.

Edgy MD Sep 07 2014 03:19 PM Re: Standing for something

Milwaukee back to their strategy of getting punched in the face repeadely, losing 9-1 to the Cardinals this afternoon. If the Pirates can hold on to their 10-4 lead over the Cubs (currently in the eighth), then they leapfrog the losing Braves and the Brews for the lead in the second wild card.

Edgy MD Sep 07 2014 10:13 PM Re: Standing for something

OK, San Francisco finishes the evening with a loss to Detroit, knocking all the Wild Card wannabes a half game closer to the lead. The Mets finish the weekend with the Redlegs and the (now plummeting) Padres behind them, leaving you free to root for both teams, although they both play division leaders this week, rather than anybody who sits ahead of the Mets. I added a Games Remaining column, and you see that one advantage the Marlins have over the Mets as they try to stay ahead is that they've played two fewer games. Essentially, the Mets have lost two games the Marlins haven't played yet. One thing I haven't added is a Playoff Pct. column, because no matter who calculates it --- MLB, Baseball Prospectus, whoever --- they all seem to be a day behind with their numbers, but checking today, and the Mets suddenly had a 0.1% chance at the Wild Card. That might have been there for a few days, but... YES! All they have to do is win like wild animals. Team W L PCT GB NGB L10 STRK Games Washington 80 61 .567 — — 5-5 W1 21 Atlanta 74 69 .517 7.0 7.0 5-5 L1 19 Miami 69 72 .489 11.0 15.0 4-6 W1 21 YOUR New York Mets 68 75 .476 13.0 21.0 6-4 W1 19 Philadelphia 66 76 .465 14.5 27.0 6-4 L1 20 Team W L PCT GB1 NGB1 GB2 NGB2 L10 STRK Games San Francisco 78 65 .545 — — +3.5 +3.5 8-2 W2 19 Pittsburgh 74 68 .521 3.5 3.5 — — 6-4 W3 20 Milwaukee 74 69 .517 4.0 4.5 0.5 0.5 5-5 L1 19 Atlanta 74 69 .517 4.0 4.0 0.5 0.5 1-9 L2 19 Miami 69 72 .489 8.0 16.0 4.5 12.5 4-6 W1 21 YOUR New York Mets 68 75 .476 10.0 24.0 6.5 20.5 6-4 W1 19 Cincinnati 67 76 .469 11.0 29.0 7.5 25.5 3-7 L1 19 Philadelphia 66 76 .465 11.5 32.0 8.0 28.5 6-4 L1 20 San Diego 66 76 .465 11.5 32.0 8.0 28.5 4-6 L5 20 Chicago 64 79 .448 14.0 52.0 10.5 48.5 5-5 L3 19 Arizona 59 84 .413 19.0 97.0 15.5 93.5 4-6 L3 19 Colorado 59 84 .413 19.0 97.0 15.5 93.5 6-4 W4 19 Marlins play the Brewers next, putting us in the awkward position of having to root for the Marlins, even though they're still ahead of the Mets. Mets get one more chance at the Fish in a three-game series next week.

Edgy MD Sep 08 2014 09:18 PM Re: Standing for something

Mets gain on Milwaukee and Atlanta. Philadelphia rally falls short and Pittsburgh hangs in there as the second Wild Card holder. David Buchanan, who has been pouring in nothing but quality starts through the second half the season, goes tomorrow against Endison Volquez. GO PHILLY!

bmfc1 Sep 09 2014 07:12 AM Re: Standing for something

http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/lad/video/topi ... _pk=382688 All 4 calls are worth hearing.

Ceetar Sep 09 2014 09:26 AM Re: Standing for something

bmfc1 wrote: http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/lad/video/topic/11493214/v36082859/must-c-curious-padres-score-on-three-errors/?game_pk=382688 All 4 calls are worth hearing. Awesome. Didn't like the 4th one too much, seemed to have a anti-Puig bias. but the "That was pathetic" soundbyte is worthwhile. Wish I was home. That disgusted Kershaw ball-flip is gif worthy (I bet it's out there) I need to listen to Scully more.

Edgy MD Sep 09 2014 10:07 PM Re: Standing for something

And Miami takes another chunk out of Milwaukee. Waiting on the late games to do an update, but pretty much the best of all outcomes tonight, with every team in front of the Mets in the race for the second Wild Card slot losing, except Miami, who are perfectly welcome to help the Mets pick teams off until they meet head-to-head next week.

Frayed Knot Sep 10 2014 06:08 AM Re: Standing for something

btw, Mets now = 5.5 games out of playoffs -- Yanx = 5.5 games out of playoffs This comes two days after there was no obvious article on the Met game in the Daily News on-line edition. Only after clicking on to general purpose article about speculation for next year was there an 'oh yeah, and they won last night' link to a game summary. Today they at least slipped deGrom's performance last night into a shared headline with the Wright news. I mean I know they've essentially marketed themselves as the MFY pr house organ but maybe keeping the ratio of articles down below about 6-1 might not be a bad idea with the two local teams about even in their chances these days.

Edgy MD Sep 10 2014 06:21 AM Re: Standing for something

Sort of why I'm agitating for Wright to keep wiping on the eyeblack. If the Mets are acting like the season is over, how can they expect the media and fans to do otherwise. They're playing some very good ball!

Frayed Knot Sep 10 2014 06:45 AM Re: Standing for something

Edgy MD wrote: And Miami takes another chunk out of Milwaukee. That game was tied heading into the 9th when Frankie Rodriguez came in and, after getting the first two outs (Yelich and Solano), went: Walk, SB, HR, HR (Stanton, McGehee & Ozuna). Bad, Frankie, bad. Brews got two on in the bottom half off Cishek but couldn't cash any in. That's now 1-13 over the last two weeks for the Brews and just 3 games over .500

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 10 2014 08:03 AM Re: Standing for something

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Mets now = 5.5 games out of playoffs -- Yanx = 5.5 games out of playoffs This comes two days after there was no obvious article on the Met game in the Daily News on-line edition. Only after clicking on to general purpose article about speculation for next year was there an 'oh yeah, and they won last night' link to a game summary. Today they at least slipped deGrom's performance last night into a shared headline with the Wright news. I mean I know they've essentially marketed themselves as the MFY pr house organ but maybe keeping the ratio of articles down below about 6-1 might not be a bad idea with the two local teams about even in their chances these days. Actually, the Snooze has been steadfastly in the Wilpon's corner while the Times and Post have delighted in skewering them. Every rag is on the MFY Bandwagon, there's just too much lucrative special sections in the Jeter thing not to go for it. And it's not unusual for the tabs to cut back on game-story stuff in September though I agree if we do make some hay this weekend it will look too early. The Snooze's problem IMO is their staffing. Tracky Martino has become a sort of a Jeff Pearlman type -- means well, but liable to go half-assed after vague populist trend of advocacy journalism; and beatwriter Ackert just hasn't brought a whole lot of engaging writing or scoops, plus is a sloppy twitterer.

MFS62 Sep 10 2014 08:11 AM Re: Standing for something

That said, I noted that there was no Mets article in the print edition, either. Later

Edgy MD Sep 10 2014 08:19 AM Re: Standing for something

You couldn't have asked for more breaks around the league last night for a Mets team that sorely needed them. Miami taking down Milwaukee, Washington nicking Atlanta, and most considerately, the Phils closing out their win over Pittsburgh. Look at the swollen NGB column shrink. It's beauteous, I tells ya. Go, Phillies! Team W L PCT GB NGB L10 STRK Games E# DIV% Washington 82 61 .573 — — 6-4 W3 19 — 99.5 Atlanta 74 71 .510 9.0 9.0 3-7 L3 17 10 0.5 Miami 71 72 .497 11.0 13.0 6-4 W3 19 9 0.0 YOUR New York Mets 70 75 .483 13.0 19.0 7-3 W3 17 6 0.0 Philadelphia 67 77 .465 15.5 29.0 6-4 W1 18 4 0.0 Team W L PCT GB1 NGB1 GB2 NGB2 L10 STRK Games E#1 E#2 WC% San Francisco 79 65 .549 — — +4.0 +4.0 7-3 W1 18 — — 79.7 Pittsburgh 75 69 .521 4.0 4.0 — — 5-5 L1 18 15 — 52.8 Atlanta 74 71 .510 5.5 7.0 1.5 1.5 3-7 L3 17 13 17 24.8 Milwaukee 74 71 .510 5.5 5.5 1.5 1.5 1-9 L4 17 13 17 20.6 Miami 71 72 .497 7.5 11.5 3.5 7.5 6-4 W3 19 12 16 0.8 YOUR New York Mets 70 75 .483 9.5 19.5 5.5 15.5 7-3 W3 17 9 13 0.1 Cincinnati 68 77 .469 11.5 29.5 7.5 25.5 3-7 W1 17 7 11 0.0 Philadelphia 67 77 .465 12.0 32.5 8.0 28.5 6-4 W1 18 7 11 0.0 San Diego 67 77 .465 12.0 32.5 8.0 28.5 3-7 W1 18 7 11 0.0 Chicago 64 81 .441 15.5 60.5 11.5 56.5 3-7 L5 17 3 7 0.0 Arizona 59 85 .410 20.0 101.0 16.0 97.0 3-7 L4 18 E 3 0.0 Colorado 59 86 .407 20.5 106.0 16.5 102.0 6-4 L2 17 E 2 0.0 I'm not sure I even want to include that %WC and %DIV. Han Solo had the right idea with regard to odds. But at least we have odds. Hottest team in the league.

Ceetar Sep 10 2014 08:23 AM Re: Standing for something

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, Mets now = 5.5 games out of playoffs -- Yanx = 5.5 games out of playoffs . Yankees E# is 14 and the Mets 13 though, fwiw.

Edgy MD Sep 11 2014 07:45 AM Re: Standing for something

So how did baseball's hottest team do last night, while enjoying their first evening without their marquee player and learning of their COO and executive VP's possible doom? Well, not as good as the day before. They won, and that's crucial, as they lose a quart of blood at this point with every loss, but every team in front of them in the race for the second wild card won also, with the exception of the Marlins. But the Marlins' role in this was to keep battering down the Brewers, until the Mets get them next week. On the bright side, they gain a game in the division, for what that's worth, and pull within a game of the Fishies, and double their post-season probability from one in a thousand to one in five hundred, so, you know, PAR-TAY! But most of that gain comes at the expense of the Marlins, and it's the Pirates we want to be stealing glory from. And in that spirit, ou know who's your best friend tonight who's not on the Mets? A.J.F. Burnett, trying to steal a series win for the Phils going up against the Bucs' red-hot Francisco Liriano. Also notable: Did you know we eliminated the Rockies from any mathematical hope last night? Well, we did! See what you get, Warriors? See what you get when you go up against the Orphans?! Team W L PCT GB NGB L10 STRK Games E# DIV% Washington 82 62 .569 — — 5-5 L1 18 — 99.7 Atlanta 75 71 .514 8.0 8.0 4-6 W1 16 10 0.2 Miami 71 73 .493 11.0 14.0 5-5 L1 18 8 0.1 YOUR New York Mets 71 75 .486 12.0 17.0 8-2 W4 16 6 0.0 Philadelphia 67 78 .462 15.5 31.0 5-5 L1 17 3 0.0 Team W L PCT GB1 NGB1 GB2 NGB2 L10 STRK Games E#1 E#2 WC% San Francisco 80 65 .552 — — +4.0 +4.0 7-3 W2 17 — — 74.4 Pittsburgh 76 69 .524 4.0 4.0 — — 5-5 W1 17 14 — 51.1 Atlanta 75 71 .514 5.5 7.0 1.5 1.5 4-6 W1 16 12 16 25.0 Milwaukee 75 71 .514 5.5 5.5 1.5 1.5 2-8 W1 16 12 16 18.2 Miami 71 73 .493 8.5 14.5 4.5 10.5 5-5 L1 18 10 14 1.9 YOUR New York Mets 71 75 .486 9.5 18.5 5.5 14.5 8-2 W4 16 8 12 0.2 Cincinnati 69 77 .473 11.5 28.5 7.5 24.5 4-6 W2 16 6 10 0.0 Philadelphia 67 78 .462 13.0 37.5 9.0 33.5 5-5 L1 17 5 9 0.0 San Diego 67 78 .462 13.0 37.5 9.0 33.5 3-7 L1 17 5 9 0.0 Chicago 64 82 .438 16.5 65.5 12.5 61.5 3-7 L6 16 1 5 0.0 Arizona 59 86 .407 21.0 106.0 17.0 102.0 3-7 L5 17 =#FF0000]E 1 0.0 Colorado 59 87 .404 21.5 111.0 17.5 107.0 5-5 L3 16 =#FF0000]E =#FF0000]E 0.0

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 11 2014 07:49 AM Re: Standing for something

See what you get, Warriors? See what you get when you go up against the Orphans?! There's no situation for which this quote isn't completely appropriate to whip out.

Vic Sage Sep 11 2014 11:27 AM Re: Standing for something

Washingtonnn, come out to play-ay... Washingtonnn, come out to play-ay... Washingtonnn, come out to play-ay!

Lefty Specialist Sep 11 2014 11:47 AM Re: Standing for something

Well, this is where this temporary blip of competence comes to a screeching halt. Nats aren't screwing around these days, and the Mets couldn't beat them even when they WERE screwing around earlier this year.

Edgy MD Sep 11 2014 12:02 PM Re: Standing for something

That's the HOTTEST-TEAM-IN-THE-LEAGUE Mets, Lefty Skepticist.

Lefty Specialist Sep 11 2014 12:36 PM Re: Standing for something

If they sweep the Nats I'll dare to believe.

Edgy MD Sep 11 2014 12:43 PM Re: Standing for something

I think the DA has agreed to refrain from indicting fans under the McGraw Act until then.

Edgy MD Sep 12 2014 08:56 PM Re: Standing for something

Miami loses! Mets in third place for the first time since July 23! Texas beating Atlanta in the eighth. Milwaukee tied with the Reds.

Edgy MD Sep 13 2014 09:48 AM Re: Standing for something

Times are dire. You see, not only are the teams at the top of the standings doing what they're supposed to do (winning), the teams at the bottom are, alternately, losing. Not only did Wild Card leaders San Francisco and Pittsburgh won four and three in a row, respectively, but the race's top trailer, Milwaukee, is suddenly finding a way to rebound and has won three in a row themselves. Last nights Mets victory helped them gain on fourth place Atlanta and catch fifth place Miami. The division may be beyond even reckoning, but the Mets gained on all three teams there. Worth noting also is that, while the Mets now technically lead the Marlins by a few decimals in the ten thousandths place, they have a lower elimination number (in both races), based on having played more games. Go Mets! And go other teams! Mets in particularly need the Cubs to slow down the Pirates. Chicago goes with Boston washout Felix Doubront. Pirates counter with Jeff Locke, who's been good when healthy, but not always healthy. He's also escaped the taint of a weird gambling scandal. Team W L PCT GB NGB DIV E# DIV% L10 STRK GMS Washington 83 63 .568 - - +9 99.7 5-5 L1 16 Atlanta 75 71 .514 8.0 8.0 9 0.3 4-6 W1 16 YOUR New York Mets 72 76 .4865 12.0 16.0 4 0.0 8-2 W1 14 Miami 71 75 .4863 12.0 16.0 5 0.0 4-6 L3 16 Philadelphia 68 79 .463 15.5 30.0 1 0.0 5-5 W1 15 Team W L PCT GB1 NGB1 WC E#1 GB2 NGB2 DIV E#2 WC% L10 STRK GMS San Francisco 82 65 .558 - - +12 +4.0 +4.0 +9 60.7 7-3 W4 15 Pittsburgh 78 69 .531 4.0 4.0 12 - - +14 56.4 7-3 W3 15 Milwaukee 77 71 .520 5.5 7.0 10 1.5 1.5 14 21.0 6-6 W3 14 Atlanta 75 72 .510 7.0 11.5 9 3.5 5.5 13 12.0 3-7 L1 15 YOUR New York Mets 72 76 .4865 10.5 25.5 5 6.5 14.5 9 0.1 8-2 W1 14 Miami 71 75 .4863 10.5 25.5 6 6.5 14.5 10 0.0 4-6 L3 16 Cincinnati 70 78 .473 12.5 37.5 3 8.5 24.5 7 0.0 4-6 L1 14 San Diego 68 78 .466 13.5 44.5 3 9.5 30.5 7 0.0 3-7 W1 16 Philadelphia 68 79 .463 14.0 48.5 2 10.0 34.0 6 0.0 5-5 W1 15 Chicago 64 83 .435 18.0 84.5 =#FF0000]E 14.0 66.0 2 0.0 3-7 L7 15 Arizona 59 88 .401 23.0 134.5 =#FF0000]E 19.0 111.0 =#FF0000]E 0.0 2-8 L7 15 Colorado 59 88 .401 23.0 134.5 =#FF0000]E 19.0 111.0 =#FF0000]E 0.0 5-5 L4 15

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2014 08:40 PM Re: Standing for something

Nats beat Braves reducing their magic number to 2 - which considering they play each other for the next two games, the number is essentially one. That's 7 losses in 8 games for Atlanta - which especially isn't good when a 3-game series w/Texas is included in that stretch. Only down note for the Nats is that Rafael Soriano still ain't right. Brought in to protect a 4 run lead he gave up 2 doubles and a walk before being pulled w/2 outs in favor of Storen who gave up a 2nd run but closed out the game with the tying runs on.

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2014 07:03 PM Re: Standing for something

Milwaukee's Matt Garza gets tossed in the 5th inning of a scoreless game for hitting Andrew McCutcheon twice. Neither seemed intentional but there were warnings issued after the first time and I think there's some recent history here. Brews need every game they can get so this isn't going to help.

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2014 08:43 PM Re: Standing for something

Brewers win it 1-0 via a run in the 9th. StL whipped up on the Reds again and are pretty much sailing to the NLC title (after I wrote them off like two months ago) as they gain no matter what happens in the Pit/Mil series. Dodgers lost in the late innings this afternoon but the Giants are in the process of losing to SD so they've got no one to blame but themselves.

Frayed Knot Sep 23 2014 08:44 PM Re: Standing for something

Pitt clinches a spot in the tourney - and still have a shot at catching StL Brewers can do no better than run the table and hope to tie the Giants for WC #2. Any SF win obviously, including their just-started game w/LA tonight, kills off the Beermakers for good. Angel Pagan shut down for the season & post-season - to have back surgery.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2014 05:59 AM Re: Standing for something

What a run for Pitt.

Frayed Knot Sep 24 2014 10:38 AM Re: Standing for something

Yup. 12-2 to clinch this WC spot and they've worked their way into still having a shot at catching Saint Looie (1.5 back) and avoiding the game of death (probably vs SFG and Mr. Bumgarner). This hardly looked like a done deal there for a while as this run comes on the heels of a mediocre August (14-14) which included a seven-game losing streak.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2014 02:28 PM Re: Standing for something

Brewers lose to Cincy this afternoon eliminating themselves and guaranteeing the Giants a spot in the post-season. The only question remaining in the NL now is whether the Pirates can catch the Cards. StL has 3 more in Arizona starting Friday. Pitt with one more vs Atlanta then 3 in Cincy

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 03:09 PM Re: Standing for something

Back in second, man. San Francisco clinches and Milwaukee falls. So the main drama left is whether the Buckminsters can catch St. Louis. I guess they consolation is prize would be staying ahead of the Giants and so hosting the Wild Card showdown. But Mets in second. That's cool.

Zvon Sep 26 2014 12:09 AM Re: Standing for something

SF clinches! During post game celebrations CSN reporter trying to get an interview is forced to wait as Hunter Pence "does a speech". Hunters gives a ra-ra speech that includes around 24 F-bombs, all aired live. Classic.

Frayed Knot Sep 27 2014 07:43 AM Re: Standing for something

Pitt wins, but StL pulls one out in extras in Arizona so the Cards remain one game up in the NLC with two to go. And, unlike in the days of just one WC, a tie here would require a one-game play-off to determine division winner vs Wild Card Nationals clinch best NL record. Will host the WC survivor and have the HF-edge in Round 2 The Cubs have a shot at tying Cincy for 4th place in the Central. Think of where those two teams were (both in the standings and in perception) in relation to each other early in the season.

Lefty Specialist Sep 27 2014 09:33 AM Re: Standing for something

Also, Mets are in a 3-way tie for 2nd with the Braves and Fish with two to go.