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Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 01:57 PM

Player Origins NL 4 - 1st round draft picks 1 - 1S pick 4 - 2nd round 6 - 3rd thru 10th round 2 - later than 10th round (Matt Carpenter - 13th 2009; Daniel Murphy - 13th round 2006) 5 - Int'l FAs: 3 DR, 1 Venz, 1 Cuba AL 4 - 1st round picks 2 - 1S picks 1 - 2nd round 5 - 3rd thru 10th 2 - later than 10th round (Jose Bautista, 20th round 2000 Pirates; Ian Kinsler, 17th round 2003 Texas) 11 - Int'l FAs: 4 DR, 4 Venz, 3 Cuba

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 04:59 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

btw, do we KNOW FOR SURE that this is Jeter's last ASG? I mean, what's to prevent the fans and media from voting him in next year and demanding that he play ... and then the year after that ... and the year after that ... and ... ?

Zvon Jul 15 2014 05:44 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Good thing I've avoided everything Jeter for the last 4 months. I should be able to handle watching the game.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 15 2014 05:45 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

This is already the most barfable ASG ever. I suppose they're gonna pitch him underhand style so he can hit a HR. Or maybe he'll get to hit off a tee.

Zvon Jul 15 2014 05:47 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

OOO, that .gif's a keeper.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 06:18 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Mcutcheon fails to heed the script.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 06:30 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

MVP vote is over.

Gwreck Jul 15 2014 06:36 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

I blame Matheny for not starting Clayton Kershaw.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 06:46 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Gotta like Joe Buck and his intentionally misleading 'stat' about how the team with the home field in the WS has won the last five times -- while failing to mention that only once in those five did the series go to a seventh game.

Fman99 Jul 15 2014 06:47 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

You know, John, if they're going to gush about the Captain for the whole night, they should have called the professionals. I haven't been this emotional about a Tuesday night since my "Hide the Prosciutto" fantasy camp with Randy Velarde. In tribute to Jeter, he also went "deep in the hole," John. Oh my! It's drool from the ghoul! It's cum cum from the dum dum!

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 06:51 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Buck: "He [Carlos Gomez] started in the big leagues right here in Minnesota" Ummm no, Joe, no he didn't.

Gwreck Jul 15 2014 06:57 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Frayed Knot wrote: Gotta like Joe Buck and his intentionally misleading 'stat' about how the team with the home field in the WS has won the last five times -- while failing to mention that only once in those five did the series go to a seventh game. Is it, though? I would expect there is also an advantage to having games one and two at home. I note that the home team won Game 1 of the World Series each of the last four years, and that team went on to win the WS.

d'Kong76 Jul 15 2014 07:14 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

He's getting up one more (last) time!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2014 07:15 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Derek Jeter's retiring?

Ashie62 Jul 15 2014 07:18 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 15 2014 07:49 PM

barf

d'Kong76 Jul 15 2014 07:19 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Simon has something to tell his grandchildren. He had Jeter 0-2 in his final all-star at bat and then he battled to work the count to full and then he willed one to right.

Farmer Ted Jul 15 2014 07:20 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Jeter with 2 hits to right field. HE CAN'T EVEN GET AROUND ON THE BALL!

d'Kong76 Jul 15 2014 07:34 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Jay Horowitz! I've seen enough.

Zvon Jul 15 2014 07:44 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 15 2014 07:53 PM

Buck: "He [Carlos Gomez] started in the big leagues right here in Minnesota" Ummm no, Joe, no he didn't. I'm watching the game with my dad and I had just told him that Gomez started with the Mets, and then the trade for Johan and the no-hitter and allAthat, and then Joe says that^. My dad thinks I'm a delusional Met fan and that certainly didn't help. ;) 3-3 [crossout]Mets[/crossout] N.L.

Zvon Jul 15 2014 07:46 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Ashie62 wrote: I actually think Cutch was out there. They didn't make much of it, only showing the replay @ 1st once.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 07:53 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Gwreck wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Gotta like Joe Buck and his intentionally misleading 'stat' about how the team with the home field in the WS has won the last five times -- while failing to mention that only once in those five did the series go to a seventh game. Is it, though? I would expect there is also an advantage to having games one and two at home. I note that the home team won Game 1 of the World Series each of the last four years, and that team went on to win the WS. Home team is 16-12 over the five WS Buck was talking about and virtually all that edge came in 2011, the one year it did go seven, when the home side went 5-2 The other four years went 3-3, 2-2, 3-3, and 3-2 The larger point being being that the whole HF advantage was created for the benefit of FOX and the only reason Buck is bringing it up is that the 'this time it counts' thing has become part of their marketing campaign for the game. So if Joe can fudge the facts so as to make it seem more important than it is he's not going to pass on the opportunity.

Gwreck Jul 15 2014 08:09 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Since 2003, the team that won Game 1 of the World Series went on to win the entire series. 10 of the last 11 World Series. Winning Game 1 is a huge advantage. Having that game at home is a clear advantage.

d'Kong76 Jul 15 2014 08:14 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Having an exhibition game decide who gets home field advantage is still silly.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 08:15 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

I know it's been a couple of years now, but I see Altuve out there with his Astros uni on hanging with the ALers and I still think: what's he doing out there

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 08:27 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Gwreck wrote: Since 2003, the team that won Game 1 of the World Series went on to win the entire series. 10 of the last 11 World Series. But not all of them where the Game 1/WS winner was the home team. Winning Game 1 is a huge advantage. Of course it is. Any win in a short series is. Having that game at home is a clear advantage. It's a slight advantage, same as Game 2, Game 3, or in any game where being at home in baseball is a slight advantage. Home teams win <55% of the time in this sport. Look, would I rather have 4 home games than 3? ... Of Course. But you still need to win the games no matter where they are, and pointing (as Buck did) to 4-game sweeps or 4-2 wins where there's an exact 3-3 split in home/away and citing the home field "advantage" as a major reason as to who won is more than stretching the truth.

Gwreck Jul 15 2014 08:29 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Game 1 was won at home by the series winning team in 2004, 2005, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013. 7 of the past 11.

Zvon Jul 15 2014 08:47 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

I know it's been a couple of years now, but I see Altuve out there with his Astros uni on hanging with the ALers and I still think: what's he doing out there Haha, ditto.

Gwreck Jul 15 2014 09:08 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Fuck you Matheny. You can leave Stanton in as the potential tying run against Doolittle. Instead, you pinch hit Anthony Rizzo (a lefty) against Doolittle (also a lefty).

Ceetar Jul 15 2014 09:08 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

omg it's Joe Buck. It's Joe Buck talking about Jeter. The only thing that could make me want to watch this less is if it was soccer.

MFS62 Jul 15 2014 09:10 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Wainwright says he grooved the pitch to Jeter. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adam-wainw ... 34864.html If that cheapens the memory in any way, I'm all for it. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2014 09:14 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Let's Go MUFFY

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 09:27 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

MFS62 wrote: Wainwright says he grooved the pitch to Jeter. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adam-wainw ... 34864.html If that cheapens the memory in any way, I'm all for it. Later And then just as quickly denies it. What utter silliness.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2014 09:32 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Good lord Altuve looks like a munchkin out there!

MFS62 Jul 15 2014 09:32 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Frayed Knot wrote: Wainwright says he grooved the pitch to Jeter. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adam-wainw ... 34864.html If that cheapens the memory in any way, I'm all for it. Later And then just as quickly denies it. What utter silliness. Crap! For one brief shining moment he set fire to Camelot. Later

Zvon Jul 15 2014 09:33 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Boooooooooo. A.L. wins 5-3 Murphy was in a position to do damage. Shame. Dat'sAbaseball folks.

MFS62 Jul 15 2014 09:38 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Zvon wrote: Boooooooooo. A.L. wins 5-3 Murphy was in a position to do damage. Shame. Dat'sAbaseball folks. Did they give Jeets the MVP or a group BJ? Or both? Later

Nymr83 Jul 15 2014 10:35 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

i didnt watch tonight solely to avoid another stop on the Jeter retirement tour.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2014 07:00 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Nymr83 wrote: i didnt watch tonight solely to avoid another stop on the Jeter retirement tour. I went out to get my karaoke on last night. Every time I turned to the TV, they were shooting Jeter. Clapping, sitting, breathing --- doing absolutely nuttin'.

MFS62 Jul 16 2014 07:16 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

At least they gave the MVP to Trout. There is still some semblance of logic in the baseball world. Later

Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 16 2014 07:27 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

MFS62 wrote: At least they gave the MVP to Trout. There is still some semblance of logic in the baseball world. Later I missed most of the game due to my deciding that the bedroom needed painting -- but caught the last couple innings on the MLB At Bat app. Fernando Rodney is another Tiger bullpen castoff whom I was surprised to see still on a roster, much less in an important part of an All-Star Game. I was convinced Jeter was going to get the MVP, like Mariano got it last year for his one inning. Radio team repeated over and over that Jeter was the oldest All-Star ever to play more than one inning...

Ceetar Jul 16 2014 07:28 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: MFS62 wrote: At least they gave the MVP to Trout. There is still some semblance of logic in the baseball world. Later I missed most of the game due to my deciding that the bedroom needed painting -- but caught the last couple innings on the MLB At Bat app. Fernando Rodney is another Tiger bullpen castoff whom I was surprised to see still on a roster, much less in an important part of an All-Star Game. I was convinced Jeter was going to get the MVP, like Mariano got it last year for his one inning. Radio team repeated over and over that Jeter was the oldest All-Star ever to play more than one inning... What color?

Edgy MD Jul 16 2014 07:36 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

The "oldest All-Star to ever play more than one inning"? "Ever"? Really? Where do they get this stuff. Checking a comprehensive list of ... one player, I note that Willie Mays started the 1972 All-Star Game and played five innings at 41. I'm going to guess he's not the only guy who can put the lie to that claim. Let's try, I dunno, Pete Fuckin' Rose. Started the 1982 game at 41 and played five innings. Both older at the time than Jeter is now. Both better at the time than Jeter is now. And I have few charitable thoughts for Pete F. Rose. Wainwright is my MVP.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 16 2014 07:54 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Ceetar wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: MFS62 wrote: At least they gave the MVP to Trout. There is still some semblance of logic in the baseball world. Later I missed most of the game due to my deciding that the bedroom needed painting -- but caught the last couple innings on the MLB At Bat app. Fernando Rodney is another Tiger bullpen castoff whom I was surprised to see still on a roster, much less in an important part of an All-Star Game. I was convinced Jeter was going to get the MVP, like Mariano got it last year for his one inning. Radio team repeated over and over that Jeter was the oldest All-Star ever to play more than one inning... What color? White ceiling, and sort of an off-white leaning toward tan for the walls. Stripping off wallpaper in the bathroom was the worst. Wallpaper evil > Yankee evil. But it's close.

HahnSolo Jul 16 2014 07:55 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Among all other things to get nauseated about, I don't know why the fact that they used Bob Shephard's recording to announce him is the one that really grinded my gears. [Non-Jeter tangent, if MLB will allow it] Did anybody catch Verducci's Keys to the Game? It was in the top of the second, and the NL was already trailing 3-0. So Verducci decided that the key for the NL--in an ALL-STAR GAME!--were "Productive Outs".

MFS62 Jul 16 2014 08:03 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Edgy MD wrote: The "oldest All-Star to ever play more than one inning"? "Ever"? Really? Where do they get this stuff. Checking a comprehensive list of ... one player, I note that Willie Mays started the 1972 All-Star Game and played five innings at 41. I'm going to guess he's not the only guy who can put the lie to that claim. Let's try, I dunno, Pete Fuckin' Rose. Started the 1982 game at 41 and played five innings. Both older at the time than Jeter is now. Both better at the time than Jeter is now. And I have few charitable thoughts for Pete F. Rose. Wainwright is my MVP. Also important is what they didn't say - no mention of Tony Gwynn or Don Zimmer. Later

metsmarathon Jul 16 2014 08:08 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

maybe oldest all star shortstop to play more htan one inning at the position, though not necessarily in the game. because cal ripken was 41 when he played shortstop in his final all star game, having switched with arod for the first inning. he played more htan one inning of course, though from the 2nd inning through the 5th, he played third.

Vic Sage Jul 16 2014 08:23 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

knowing it was going to be Jetermania (not a real human being, but an incredible simulation!), i just passed on the game.

Ceetar Jul 16 2014 08:50 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: MFS62 wrote: At least they gave the MVP to Trout. There is still some semblance of logic in the baseball world. Later I missed most of the game due to my deciding that the bedroom needed painting -- but caught the last couple innings on the MLB At Bat app. Fernando Rodney is another Tiger bullpen castoff whom I was surprised to see still on a roster, much less in an important part of an All-Star Game. I was convinced Jeter was going to get the MVP, like Mariano got it last year for his one inning. Radio team repeated over and over that Jeter was the oldest All-Star ever to play more than one inning... What color? White ceiling, and sort of an off-white leaning toward tan for the walls. Stripping off wallpaper in the bathroom was the worst. Wallpaper evil > Yankee evil. But it's close. previous owners had a strip of "chair-railing" wallpaper that I had to strip off. But that's just one strip around the center (the two portions were different colors) so it wasn't quite as bad as Yankee Evil in my case. The ugly way they slapped the lilac/brownish color on the floor moldings/floor knowing they were going to put in carpeting after though...

Farmer Ted Jul 16 2014 11:11 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Tony Gwynn is trending folks! Apparently MLB, FOX, et al gave a Monk-sized all-star snub to the man. This was Jeter's day, bitches!

Mets – Willets Point Jul 16 2014 11:42 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Frayed Knot wrote: Wainwright says he grooved the pitch to Jeter. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adam-wainw ... 34864.html If that cheapens the memory in any way, I'm all for it. Later And then just as quickly denies it. What utter silliness. Adam Wainwright, please report to the Commissioner's Office for reprogramming.

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2014 12:28 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

Farmer Ted wrote: Tony Gwynn is trending folks! Apparently MLB, FOX, et al gave a Monk-sized all-star snub to the man. This was Jeter's day, bitches! If only MLB had some kind of yearly gathering that honored the past as much as the present & future where most baseball people & writers are around along with a large video screen and a TV network to cover it all and a captive baseball-centric audience watching/attending, then they could maybe take two minutes out to do some sort of Oscars-style tribute to those no longer around since the previous time: Gwynn, Zimmer, Brosnan, Kiner, Jerry Coleman, etc. Or maybe that would cut into whatever 'Up With People' tribute to school teacher/Army Rangers they had planned, or the part where the network-connected singer stretches the Star Spangled Banner into a 3-1/2 minute vanity project opus.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2014 12:37 PM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

I'm telling you, my post-season baseball awards ceremony is gonna knock your sox off. It's just gonna be called Baseball Night, and it will be spectacular. I've got a producer, a writer, a host, a venue, and an iPhone camera. All I need is scads of money and Bob Mackie.

MFS62 Jul 17 2014 05:30 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

FOX reacts: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-l ... 40507.html Later

Edgy MD Jul 17 2014 05:55 AM Re: 2014 ASG Thread

As tweeted by Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal: [list]"We are deeply saddened by the loss of Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn, an extraordinary individual whose memory we have honored in numerous ways in recent weeks. The Baseball family has sadly lost a number of people this year - including Hall of Famer Ralph Kiner, Frank Cashen, and former All-Stars Jerry Coleman, Jim Fregosi and Don Zimmer - and did not want to slight anyone by singling out one individual."[/list:u] You can almost see where they're coming from, but it's awfully difficult sell considering the game was basically a three-hour tribute to Derek Jeter, while 69 other All-Stars all shared supporting roles. You could perhaps see where they are coming from, if they weren't so obviously and absolutely lying. The truth is that they had their story. And alternative stories did not occur to anybody involved in the broadcast. Not even once. But, you know, get set for next year's game to be turned into a three-hour version of "People Who Died." Because if there's anything MLB knows how to do, it's over-correct for a minor PR snafu, at least when it comes to minority issues. They'll completely miss (or ignore) that their real failure was not the snub to Gwynn (and really, did anybody here feel miffed that Kiner wasn't mentioned?), but rather the three-hour planned Jetergasm that precipitated it, and the 20-year fake, forced lovefest that led up to it.