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IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

G-Fafif Aug 29 2014 04:50 AM

Probable Starting Second Basemen in this battle to avoid the basement, which Philadelphia holds by a half-game...though the Mets have been charging downward: PHI: Chase Utley (born 12.17.1978) NYM: Dilson Herrera (born 3.3.1994) Mets have the advantage on youth. Phillies retain an edge in sucking in general. Also, David Buchanan takes on Jacob deGrom in the pitching department.

Lefty Specialist Aug 29 2014 07:20 AM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

The best part of this is that Herrera will be eligible for the postseason roster.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 29 2014 07:38 AM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

We accidentally scored Fred Wilpon type tix to this one. Nice that we'll catch Dilson and deGrom before it's all over since I almost always draw Niese or Gee.

smg58 Aug 29 2014 09:25 AM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

It still might be a good idea to see what Flores can do with an uninterrupted run of starts. I was thinking Herrera is a better bet for 2016 than next year (much less now), but I wouldn't mind being wrong.

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 09:27 AM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Great thread title! Again! Philadelphia at NY Mets When: 7:10 PM ET, Friday, August 29, 2014 Where: Citi Field, New York City, New York SportsDirect Inc. The Philadelphia Phillies have long since dropped from postseason contention, but they have done their part to impact the playoff race by winning seven of their past nine – all against October contenders. Philadelphia arrives in New York to open a three-game series Friday against the Mets on a four-game winning streak, fresh off a sweep of National League East leader Washington after winning two of three against St. Louis and Seattle. The Mets are also well outside the playoff picture and have lost seven of their last 10 after a 6-1 defeat againstt Atlanta on Thursday. Both teams send rookies to the mound for the opener, as David Buchanan starts for the Phillies and Jacob deGrom goes for the Mets. Veteran outfielder Grady Sizemore has sparked Philadelphia since joining the Phillies, hitting .307 in 38 games with a pinch-hit two-run homer in Wednesday’s 8-4 triumph over the Nationals. New York saw third baseman David Wright return to action Thursday after missing two games with a stiff neck, but second baseman Daniel Murphy was placed on the disabled list after Thursday’s game due to a calf injury and the team promoted Dilson Herrera from Double-A Binghamton. TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, NBC 10 (Philadelphia), SNY (New York) PITCHING MATCHUP: Phillies RH David Buchanan (6-7, 4.21 ERA) vs. Mets RH Jacob deGrom (6-6. 3.13) Buchanan makes the 15th start of his rookie season, having gone 1-2 in four starts since being recalled from Triple-A Lehigh Valley on Aug. 6. He got a no-decision against the Cardinals on Saturday, allowing two runs on eight hits in five innings, and has not allowed more than three earned runs in his past 10 big-league outings. Buchanan lost to the Mets on Aug. 11, giving up three runs on four hits in six innings, and is 0-2 with a 4.26 ERA in two starts against New York. One of several young arms the Mets hope will lead them back to contention in 2015, deGrom suffered his first loss in his past seven starts Saturday at the Los Angeles Dodgers while giving up five runs in six innings. He lost five of his first six decisions, but is 5-1 with a 2.31 ERA and 48 strikeouts in 46 2/3 innings in his past seven outings. The 26-year-old deGrom gave up three runs on three hits in 6 1/3 innings in a no-decision against Philadelphia on May 31. WALK-OFFS: 1. Phillies RHP Jonathan Papelbon earned his 100th career save with Philadelphia on Tuesday and is the first player to accumulate 200 saves with a team in one league (Boston, 219) and 100 with a team in the other league. 2. The Mets hit .169 with six runs scored in the three-game series against Atlanta. 3. Phillies CF Ben Revere is one stolen base from 40, which would make him the 12th Philadelphia player to steal 40 or more bases in one season.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 09:55 AM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

BA chimes in with a piece on what to expect when you're expecting Dilson Herrera excerpts: When the Pirates signed Herrera out of Colombia in 2010, they used him at third base in the Venezuelan Summer League but shifted him to second when he reached the States in 2012. A high-energy player, Herrera is working through the kinks of a still-new-to-him position, as some managers who saw him in 2013 in the South Atlantic League felt his actions were stiff. ... where Herrera really makes his bones is at bat. A line drive, gap-to-gap hitter, the righthanded Herrera slashed .323/.379/.479 at high Class A St. Lucie and Double-A Binghamton before his call up. Evaluators tagged him for average power and he has 51 extra-base hits this season among his 169 knocks, including 33 doubles. Just 5-foot-10, 150 pounds, Herrera generates his extra-base pop with super-quick hands and above-average bat speed, combined with an aggressive swing. Herrera uses his core and strong lower half to gain leverage and make hard contact.

G-Fafif Aug 29 2014 01:15 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

The future is now-ish: Lagares, cf Granderson, rf Wright, 3B Duda, 1b D'Arnaud, c Den Dekker, lf Herrera, 2b Flores, ss deGrom, p Dilson Herrera will wear No. 2.

Ceetar Aug 29 2014 01:29 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

I'm not positive deGromination shouldn't hit 6th.

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 01:38 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

G-Fafif wrote: Dilson Herrera will wear No. 2. Justin Turner: not expected back.

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 01:45 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

For a half-second I thought I read: D'Arnaud, lf

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 02:00 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Revere, CF Rollins, SS Utley, 2B Howard, 1B Byrd, RF Sizemore, LF Ruiz, C Asche, 3B Buchanan, P

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 02:51 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Ceetar wrote: I'm not positive deGromination shouldn't hit 6th. I'd hit him lead off.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 29 2014 03:22 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

The best part of expecting Herrera is that, going by his age, if I hadn't been more careful with my first girlfriend junior year, I could have feasibly been expecting Herrera. He's my kid AND could be my kid.

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 03:26 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

How about Wilmer Flores? You've got 704 plate appearances at AAA and about 90% of your alleged value is in your bat, and you're batting eighth behind a 20-year-old who's never taken a breath above AA.

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 05:26 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Captain lackin'intangibles is a whiffer.

TransMonk Aug 29 2014 05:26 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

d'Kong76 wrote: For a half-second I thought I read: D'Arnaud, lf LOL!

Zvon Aug 29 2014 05:37 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Welcome to the majors, Herrera. DP in 1st ever at bat. Dilson? Is that a typo?

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 05:43 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Nope, that's his name

Carnac the Metnificent Aug 29 2014 05:49 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Zvon wrote: Dilson? Is that a typo? [fimg=250]http://www.screeninsults.com/images/the-tonight-show-starring-johnny-carson-carnac-the-magnificent.jpg[/fimg] A: Ulf, Woodrow, and Herrera Q: Name me a Nilsson, a Wilson, and a Dilson [fimg=250]http://alienationmentale.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/hi.jpg[/fimg]

Zvon Aug 29 2014 05:53 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Ha. Excellent^. Imagine if we kept Byrd and didn't get Grandy. Very nice catch there.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 05:55 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

G-Fafif wrote: Dilson Herrera will wear No. 2. They seem to be trying to stuff as many of their young players into single and other low digit numbers as possible: Herrera, Flores, MdD, Td'A Not sure how conscious a decision that's is but it does seem to be too common to be just coincidence.

Zvon Aug 29 2014 06:03 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

d' drives in Wright, who got a hit. Things are happening. 1-0 Mets

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 06:34 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

deGrom looking pretty damn sharp!

themetfairy Aug 29 2014 06:48 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

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Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 06:49 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Flores not convincing me as a shortstop. If only he hit enough to pick up his glove.

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 06:49 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Tied 1-1, but nice 1-6-3 to end the 7th

Trachsel My Tears Aug 29 2014 06:51 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

very smooth, deGrom to Flores to Duda.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 29 2014 06:51 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Pretty weak throw to home by denDekker.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 06:53 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

After that hitting outburst in the last game of the Dodger series, we're on a 6, 5, 4, and, so far tonight, 4 hit streak again.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 06:54 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Pretty weak throw to home by denDekker. He rushed it and pretty much spiked it into the ground. But, yeah, considering how shallow he was when he let the thing go it wasn't impressive at all. Then again, very few of our OF throws are.

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 06:59 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

I like Dilson's swing.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 07:00 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Gary mentioned Herrera being the first Met from Columbia but forgot about Frank Seminara. I wouldn't think that Gary, a Columbia man himself, would miss that.

Trachsel My Tears Aug 29 2014 07:01 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Dekman is throwing so far outside, it looks like it's going to get away.

Trachsel My Tears Aug 29 2014 07:06 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

AAAAaand he walks him. Bases loaded. It's up to Lagares to get deGrom a W.

themetfairy Aug 29 2014 07:08 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

When did the Phillies sign Luis Castillo?

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 07:08 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Ooopsie!

themetfairy Aug 29 2014 07:09 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

And Soup steals home!!!

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 07:10 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Geeez, with two outs all the Phils had to do was tag out Lagares there!!

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 07:11 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Raise your hands if you were pissed the Mets didn't get Sizemo'.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 07:11 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Nice to see a three-run [u:29eog36j]no hit[/u:29eog36j] inning go in our favor instead of the other way -- 2 walks, a HBP, an error, and a double-steal

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 07:18 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Holy crap. First steal of home since Jason F. Pridie.

Trachsel My Tears Aug 29 2014 07:21 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Frayed Knot wrote: Nice to see a three-run no hit inning go in our favor instead of the other way -- 2 walks, a HBP, an error, and a double-steal It's like that wisecrack about a Dodger rally in the early 60s: a walk, a sac, an infield out, and a WP.

Trachsel My Tears Aug 29 2014 07:24 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Wright looks positively sick tonight, and not in a good way.

Mets Guy in Michigan Aug 29 2014 07:24 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Trying to follow along on GameDay. Was it a straight steal of home? Or a botched bunt or something?

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 07:26 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Double steal. Runner broke for second, catcher threw down, and Campbell broke for home.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 07:31 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

HOLLANDS - DOZIER - HOLLAND (Mario, D.J., Al) OK, clearly I need help.

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 07:35 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Dilson gets his first career boot before his first career knock.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 07:39 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

How 'bout we NOT bring the tying run up to bat?

Trachsel My Tears Aug 29 2014 07:40 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Am I the only who hears "Asche for the Phillies" and thinks "Richie Ashburn is playing for the Phils again"?

themetfairy Aug 29 2014 07:42 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Trachsel My Tears Aug 29 2014 07:42 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

"And foul ball, Asche stays alive" NO--he Ks and the Wets min!

themetfairy Aug 29 2014 07:42 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Trachsel My Tears wrote: Am I the only who hears "Asche for the Phillies" and thinks "Richie Ashburn is playing for the Phils again"? When I hear it I think we've traded Ashie for a poster to be named later.

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 07:43 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2014 07:45 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Cody Asche Kobayashi [fimg=250]http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9633/boyohboyok1.jpg[/fimg]

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 07:48 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Hey, kids... GUESS WHO'S NOT IN LAST PLACE!

d'Kong76 Aug 29 2014 07:53 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

For a day or so

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 08:10 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

A day, nothin'! That's the bonus. It will last AT LEAST TWO DAYS!

MFS62 Aug 29 2014 08:19 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Back to the 4 hit game, but who cares? Out of last place. Later

Edgy MD Aug 29 2014 08:31 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Hey, wait, let's be clear here. They're not "out of" last place because they weren't in it. Not much, but it counts.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 29 2014 09:49 PM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Thoughts on the Game!!!!1 1. d'Arnaud probably had the two most impressive strikes of the game, in his first two trips, but I don't recall now if he reached on either. Super, solid, ringing contact. THWACK. 2. Doodoo didn't hit anything squarely. 3. Sketchy work contact of Wifey secured luxury deck just to the third base side of home, and we wound up there. Great view and nice night to be there. Shake Shack delivered. Kinda gross. 4. Dilson looked OK. Results weren't there, but fast hands, nice build on a little guy. 5. Thought for sure inning was over on first throw of steal. Have to see replay but seemed like a dumb idea to throw home then. 6. Also thought denDekker had a relatively easy peg at home if wanted it but just a bad throw. 7. OTOH, his walk was key to the rally, not that the pitches were difficult not hack at, but he hasn't really impressed me yet. Good steal of 2nd I suppose, very safe. 8. First time seeing deGrom throw and good views of it. Really pops the mitt. Phils helped him out of course, Ruiz in particular. 9. Something!! No glove no love!! 10. Something!!

Frayed Knot Aug 30 2014 06:16 AM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

Mets won because Phils lacked DEFENSE!!!! John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: 5. Thought for sure inning was over on first throw of steal. Have to see replay but seemed like a dumb idea to throw home then. Lagares was most likely going to be out at 2nd if Rollins had let the throw come to him, a move which naturally would have negated the steal of home seeing how there were already two outs. But that's a tough call for Rollins to make on the fly and I think the throw being slightly to the SS side of the base is what triggered him to go for the out at home instead. And he might have gotten it if not for a nice slide by Soupy.

Edgy MD Aug 30 2014 07:36 AM Re: IGT 8/29/14 PHI @ NYM: Right Herrera, Right Now

This was great, it proved we can win if (1) we're playing a last-place team, (2) we totally have the pitching matchup fall on our side, (3) the opponent gifts us a bunch of runs in making one of the most disastrous errors in the book. If that happens, and we totally hang in there... WINS, BABY!