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IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Gwreck Sep 01 2014 08:39 AM

[u:3bbza2jh]Marlins[/u:3bbza2jh] Christian Yelich LF Donovan Solano 2B Giancarlo Stanton RF Casey McGehee 3B Garrett Jones 1B Marcell Ozuna CF Jarrod Saltalamacchia C Adeiny Hechavarria SS Henderson Alvarez P [u:3bbza2jh]Mets[/u:3bbza2jh] Lagares CF Granderson RF Wright 3B Duda 1B d'Arnaud C den Dekker LF Herrera 2B Flores SS Wheeler P

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 08:50 AM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

NY Mets at Miami When: 1:10 PM ET, Monday, September 1, 2014 Where: Marlins Park, Miami, Florida SportsDirect Inc. Zack Wheeler is one of the young arms the New York Mets are counting on to fuel a turnaround next season and the 24-year-old has spent the past two months showing why he is considered one of the team’s top pitching prospects. Wheeler, who is 6-1 with a 2.17 ERA in his past 11 starts, takes the mound Monday as the Mets open a three-game set at the Miami Marlins. The Marlins have seen plenty of good pitching lately, losing six times on a nine-game road trip and scoring a total of five runs in their past four defeats. Miami is 37-31 at home this season but is nine games under .500 on the road. With 14 of their final 27 games away from home, the Marlins need to play well in this week’s home games against the Mets and Atlanta to bolster their chances of finishing with a winning record for the first time since 2009. New York closer Jenrry Mejia recorded two saves against Philadelphia over the weekend and is 21-for-24 in save opportunities since moving to the bullpen in early May. TV: 1:10 p.m. ET, SNY (New York), FSN Florida (Miami) PITCHING MATCHUP: Mets RH Zack Wheeler (9-9, 3.44 ERA) vs. Marlins RH Henderson Alvarez (10-6, 2.75) Wheeler was 3-8 with a 4.45 ERA on June 26, but has allowed two earned runs or less 10 times in his past 11 outings. He won six decisions in a row before losing to Atlanta on Wednesday, allowing two earned runs (three total) with seven strikeouts in seven innings. Wheeler is 2-0 in four starts against the Marlins this season, giving up just two earned runs and striking out 31 in 27 2/3 innings. Like Wheeler, Alvarez also had a winning streak end in his last outing, giving up five runs on eight hits Wednesday to fall to the Los Angeles Angels and end a four-start streak. He gave up just seven earned runs in 28 innings in his four previous starts. Alvarez makes his fifth start of 2014 against New York, going 2-1 with a 2.73 ERA against the Mets. WALK-OFFS: 1. New York rookie 2B Dilson Herrera drove in his first career run Sunday, one day after collecting his first major-league hit. 2. Miami 2B Donovan Solano is 9-for-23 in his past six games, raising his batting average from .231 to .249. 3. New York CF Juan Lagares has at least one hit in seven of his past nine contests.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 08:54 AM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

New York CF Juan Lagares has at least one hit in seven of his past nine contests. I'll take 'Totally Silly Stats' for $600, Alex

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 09:09 AM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

I guess this was too much to cut and past from the media notes: GOLDEN?GLOVE: Juan Lagares leads all major leaguers with a 3.6 defensive WAR this season...Lagares’ range factor (putout and assists/innings) is 2.93 which leads all NL?outfielders...Lagares has 30 defensive runs saved, second among all major leaguers to Atlanta’s Jason Heyward, who has 34, despite playing 331 fewer innings... Defensive Runs Saved (DRS) has been a stat researched over the last 12 years and Lagares is the only player to record back-to-back seasons of 30 or more defensive runs saved.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 01 2014 10:17 AM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

With no more games against the Phillies, the Mets can now resume their inevitable descent into last place. At least they'll get a higher draft pick (whatever that's worth) come next Summer.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 11:03 AM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Six teams have the day off today. Suxxx to be them -- or, more accurately, fans of them ... I'm sure the players don't mind.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 12:04 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Well this game certainly took a turn for the better rather quickly, in part due to some questionable Marlin throwing decisions.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 12:46 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

And due in further part to a Dildong!

Zvon Sep 01 2014 12:50 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Herrera popped one, his first eveh. Nice shot too. Any particular reason that Herrera isn't part of the shortstop discussion? Mets up 4-2 in the 5th.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 01:02 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Zvon wrote: Any particular reason that Herrera isn't part of the shortstop discussion? Generally SS is a position that young players, as they age and progress, move away from rather than towards, so if minor league coaches, scouts, managers thought he could play SS then he most likely would have played SS. And yet he barely ever did, leading us to believe that there's something, probably the arm, that he's lacking.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 01:08 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Herrera played 27 games at short for the minor league Mets this season, his first ever as a pro, so I imagine he's not only part of the discussion among the Mets braintrust, but they've forced him into the discussion. If their observations of the results were positive, I imagine he might elevate in the discussion, but that'll come when it comes. I would guess right now the team will try to avoid using him there for now, under the "We don't want to put too much on him" reasoning that tends to prevail in the Mets' dugout.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 01:11 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: Any particular reason that Herrera isn't part of the shortstop discussion? Generally SS is a position that young players, as they age and progress, move away from rather than towards, so if minor league coaches, scouts, managers thought he could play SS then he most likely would have played SS. And yet he barely ever did, leading us to believe that there's something, probably the arm, that he's lacking. I'll have to see more but so far I've seen no problem with his arm. I wasn't even really thinking of him for short until I saw a few of his throws, both on DPs where he wasn't in the best throwing position. But yea, you would have to think he's lacking something. Errors kill. 5-4 Fish

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 01:12 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Ozuna, you are so nailed. Get in the dugout and find your glove.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 01:15 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Zvon wrote: I'll have to see more but so far I've seen no problem with his arm. I wasn't even really thinking of him for short until I saw a few of his throws, both on DPs where he wasn't in the best throwing position. But yea, you would have to think he's lacking something. HIs turns have been fine, but those are much shorter throws than the 'in the hole' ones that SSs have to make.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 01:20 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

He claims it was an accident of history that took him off short as a pro, that his first manager never looked at him over there. But he was moved from third to second by the Bucs. That could indicate what they thought of his arm. He's in the picture --- and indeed has to be in the same sense that Flores has to be, since the Mets have second and third occupied --- but it's as a dark horse at this point.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 01:21 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Edgy MD wrote: Herrera played 27 games at short for the minor league Mets this season, his first ever as a pro, so I imagine he's not only part of the discussion among the Mets braintrust, but they've forced him into the discussion. If their observations of the results were positive, I imagine he might elevate in the discussion, but that'll come when it comes. I would guess right now the team will try to avoid using him there for now, under the "We don't want to put too much on him" reasoning that tends to prevail in the Mets' dugout. Underlining my concern is that I want the Mets to keep Murphy, and if this kid is any good, better than Tejada at the plate, then maybe he can fit at short (if the Mets want to continue to take the discount route). Herrera looks like he has good hands and good form for an infielder. If he does have the arm he should get some MLB time there from here on out. I hope.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 01:24 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Edgy MD wrote: He claims it was an accident of history that took him off short as a pro, that his first manager never looked at him over there. But he was moved from third to second by the Bucs. That could indicate what they thought of his arm. He's in the picture --- and indeed has to be in the same sense that Flores has to be, since the Mets have second and third occupied --- but it's as a dark horse at this point. Very interesting. I've decided that Flores has lazy feet. He's not lazy, just his feet are.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 01:27 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Wow! Excellent. 2 RBI triple for Herrera! Mets take the lead back! 6-5

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 01:27 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Dilson making a bid to play somewhere today. Also making a bid for a cycle.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 01:29 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

That was schweeet!

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 01:29 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Hah, Dyson sucks (see what I did there?)

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 01:33 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Still trying to see what you did there.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 01:35 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Frayed Knot wrote: Hah, Dyson sucks (see what I did there?) :)

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 01:36 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Vacuum brand

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 01:37 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

James Dyson is the inventor/executive of his eponymously-named vacuum cleaner company. I never said it was a GOOD joke.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 01:41 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Herrera's Superman cape falls off (temporarily).

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 01:45 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

What's that candy commercial that asks: 'Not going anywhere for a while?' -- well that's what this game is like.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 01:49 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Crap. I stepped off. Tied? Herrera muffed a bunt? Gah! I did see the DP to end the inning. That was nice.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 01:54 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

I don't think I've ever seen a guy whiff and the director goes to a camera like it was a shot to the outfield.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 01:58 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

d'Kong76 wrote: I don't think I've ever seen a guy whiff and the director goes to a camera like it was a shot to the outfield. Lol. Saw that. Wacky. Did Dave tip it? Cause I thought I heard wood and the camera work did fool me for an instant. And then the outfielder is just standing there pickin' his ass.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 02:01 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Yeah, I thought he hit it too but not sure. No soup for us, Campbell strands two.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 02:03 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

DW became the first man to strikeout to left field.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:05 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Frayed Knot wrote: DW became the first man to strikeout to left field. K-7

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 02:08 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Good one, for those scoring at home!

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:09 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Torres ate his WHEATIES this morning. Some zip-n-pop on those pitches.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 02:15 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Flores has made some square contact, but he's been swinging with his arms only and getting nothing behind his hits. Don't know if that's him getting fooled but having great hand-eye coordination to still get good wood on it, or it's his lazy feet at it again.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 02:20 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Oh, Campy.

Gwreck Sep 01 2014 02:21 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Maybe I'm projecting. Maybe I'm overreacting. But I am of the opinion that whoever conducted pitcher fielding practice this season is incompetent.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:21 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

UGH! Overplayed by Soupy. Ugh. And Herrera gets muffy at first. 1st & 3rd, no out. This team will not get out of this w/o giving up a run, so......

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:24 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

d', you gotta keep those in front of you. It was an awful pitch tho. Damn. 7-6

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:28 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Gwreck wrote: Maybe I'm projecting. Maybe I'm overreacting. But I am of the opinion that whoever conducted pitcher fielding practice this season is incompetent. Holy schmoly. 6 errors today. 2 by Familia in this inning. wtf is goin on here?

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:33 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Club record for errors in a game is 7. That's nice to know. Erik Goeddel is #62. That's all I know about him. Oh, and he walks people with bases loaded.

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 02:34 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

One hit in this inning (only one ball out of the infield in fact) and that's the one that hit square into a glove.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:40 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

The more I see the wild pitch the more I think Travis should have kept that from going all the way to the backstop. That was the shittiest inning of the season. Spell-chk likes shittiest.

Zvon Sep 01 2014 02:44 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Very disappointing loss. Sweep this one under the books, or the rug,...stick it wherever you want.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 02:59 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Six errors! Six! And not a club record!

Frayed Knot Sep 01 2014 03:28 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

That it ended on consecutive K's by Granderson & Wright is somehow appropriate for the 2nd half of this season.

Ashie62 Sep 01 2014 04:18 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Terry Collins joins Bo Porter soon.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2014 05:30 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

Everybody joins Bo Porter soon. But this is the sort of thing playing the kids yields. It's a tough trade-off, but one they've made nonetheless. Hopefully there's some payoff.... someday.

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2014 05:48 PM Re: IGT #138 - Mets at Marlins - 9/1/14

I've heard/read Bo Porter's name a half-dozen times today. Before today I had no clue who Bo was.