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RIP Derek Jeter

Gwreck Sep 02 2014 07:49 PM

My feelings about Yankees aside, it was saddening to hear of his tragic passing. I was surprised to have missed the news stories about it but then I saw the Yankees were wearing a uniform patch in his memory.

Edgy MD Sep 02 2014 07:57 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

This might slightly affect his range at shortstop. WHoAH!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 02 2014 08:03 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Gwreck wrote: My feelings about Yankees aside, it was saddening to hear of his tragic passing. I was surprised to have missed the news stories about it but then I saw the Yankees were wearing a uniform patch in his memory. LOLOOLLOLOL2

themetfairy Sep 02 2014 08:15 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

You had me for a minute - very well played

Zvon Sep 02 2014 09:03 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

If Jeter was the guy everyone says he is he would step up here and say, "No, you are not going to do this. It is obnoxious." And I'd agree with him.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 02 2014 09:09 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Gwreck wrote: My feelings about Yankees aside, it was saddening to hear of his tragic passing. I was surprised to have missed the news stories about it but then I saw the Yankees were wearing a uniform patch in his memory. Bad ass!

batmagadanleadoff Sep 02 2014 09:10 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/art ... y=news_nyy

MFS62 Sep 02 2014 09:15 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Megdal tells it like it is about Jeter. Really! Be still my heart. http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/9/2/60 ... lou-gehrig If the link doesn't work, its to be found on SB Nation. Later

Edgy MD Sep 02 2014 09:21 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I read that earlier. Meggie doesn't get to the half of it, but yeah.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2014 07:17 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I think the 'never played anywhere other than SS'* label is important to him and to his worshipers, in part because five or fifty years down the road this 'stat' will be trotted out as an extra layer of proof of greatness by those who are either unable or unwilling to remember and/or pass on how things really were that final year (or yearS if you prefer). That, plus the same spot in his batting order edict, will contribute to the 'He went out on top' angle that seems so important to myth building. That the 'go out on top' story (probably) won't include a post-season trip in his final year will, of course, be treated as Cashman's fault, not his. * if we ignore DH - 65 games to date for his career including 9 this season

bmfc1 Sep 03 2014 08:13 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Episode 5 of "BoJack Horseman" (Netflix) has some good stuff involving Jeter.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2014 08:30 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

"And when they're out, they're out" -- So what's to prevent them from making more?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2014 08:51 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I was wondering the same thing.

Lefty Specialist Sep 03 2014 09:01 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

It's just kind of creepy wearing a uniform with a patch celebrating your own retirement. But the possibilities are endless. A vintage 2001-03 Texas A-Rod jersey with a patch that says 'Maxed out on Steroids' A 1998 Todd Hundley jersey with a patch that says 'Playing Horribly Out of Position' A 2014 Curtis Granderson jersey that says 'Don't Throw me Curveballs Low and Away'. A 2003 Tom Glavine jersey that says 'All in All, I'd Rather be in Atlanta' And Giancarlo Stanton could wear one saying, 'Show Me The Money!!!'

Edgy MD Sep 03 2014 09:17 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The Marlins should be wearing a "Stanton Farewell Tour" jersey tonight!

TheOldMole Sep 03 2014 09:22 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I would have guessed that Rabbit Maranville had played 100 games at shortstop at age 40, but he had switched to second base. Tune in next time for more sheer irrelevancy.

Ceetar Sep 03 2014 10:18 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Was it Jeter that leaked all the celeb photos? oh wait, he's the one that's too paranoid to be within 20 feet of a cellphone right?

seawolf17 Sep 03 2014 10:24 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

This stupid patch bothers me a lot more than it should, and Megdal's right (and I hate agreeing with him) that Jeter should come out, publicly, and say this is too much.

Ceetar Sep 03 2014 10:35 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

seawolf17 wrote: This stupid patch bothers me a lot more than it should, and Megdal's right (and I hate agreeing with him) that Jeter should come out, publicly, and say this is too much. Why would he come out and say it's too much in a season that's basically been designed to be all about him?

seawolf17 Sep 03 2014 10:41 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Ceetar wrote: seawolf17 wrote: This stupid patch bothers me a lot more than it should, and Megdal's right (and I hate agreeing with him) that Jeter should come out, publicly, and say this is too much. Why would he come out and say it's too much in a season that's basically been designed to be all about him? I know. It's already gone too far. I'm just saying.

Ceetar Sep 03 2014 10:55 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

seawolf17 wrote: seawolf17 wrote: This stupid patch bothers me a lot more than it should, and Megdal's right (and I hate agreeing with him) that Jeter should come out, publicly, and say this is too much. Why would he come out and say it's too much in a season that's basically been designed to be all about him? I know. It's already gone too far. I'm just saying. He's hoping they erect the (biggest one, and one of the first three you see when walking in) monument before the end of the season so he doesn't have to be bothered to show up again next year.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2014 11:06 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The Post's Joel Sherman dares to tackle the tiger by calling out Girardi for failing to live up to his early season pledge to "run a season not a farewell tour". Of course it's always possible that JG is under orders from up top to NOT do to Jeter was he (and Torre before him) was quite willing to do to ARod, Posada, and others to one degree or another, and that's move him down in the lineup, replace him for defense, or simply sit him more often.

Trachsel My Tears Sep 03 2014 11:18 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: This stupid patch bothers me a lot more than it should, and Megdal's right (and I hate agreeing with him) that Jeter should come out, publicly, and say this is too much. Why would he come out and say it's too much in a season that's basically been designed to be all about him? I know. It's already gone too far. I'm just saying. He's hoping they erect the (biggest one, and one of the first three you see when walking in) monument before the end of the season so he doesn't have to be bothered to show up again next year. They've already erected a statue of Jeter. They put it right between 2nd and 3rd base, and bring it into the dugout every other half-inning. I've seen it--it's very lifelike.

Ashie62 Sep 03 2014 11:32 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Trachsel My Tears wrote: Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: This stupid patch bothers me a lot more than it should, and Megdal's right (and I hate agreeing with him) that Jeter should come out, publicly, and say this is too much. Why would he come out and say it's too much in a season that's basically been designed to be all about him? I know. It's already gone too far. I'm just saying. He's hoping they erect the (biggest one, and one of the first three you see when walking in) monument before the end of the season so he doesn't have to be bothered to show up again next year. They've already erected a statue of Jeter. They put it right between 2nd and 3rd base, and bring it into the dugout every other half-inning. I've seen it--it's very lifelike. BOC

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2014 12:20 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I'm getting sick and tired of how anyone who dares to criticize Derek Jeter acts as if they're also obligated to qualify their objections by first reminding everyone of just how great and awesome Jeter supposedly is.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 03 2014 06:54 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Trachsel My Tears wrote: They've already erected a statue of Jeter. They put it right between 2nd and 3rd base, and bring it into the dugout every other half-inning. I've seen it--it's very lifelike. BAM!!!!! We need the Bullet of Cool again!

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2014 06:57 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm getting sick and tired of how anyone who dares to criticize Derek Jeter acts as if they're also obligated to qualify their objections by first reminding everyone of just how great and awesome Jeter supposedly is. They do it because they're afraid of the size of their mailbag responses if they don't include the disclaimer. Probably are afraid of the responses from certain media-types who won't read the column but will hear second-hand only that some idiot up in New York is trashing Derek Jeter. Girardi, btw, is apparently playing the 'he's clutch' card as to why Mr. 487 OPS in August can't be/won't be benched and/or dropped in the lineup.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2014 07:00 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Yeah, I liked how Girardi said that, the first four months of the season, Jeter was the most (or one of the most) consistent guy(s) in his lineup. Yeah, he was consistently bad. And now he's consistently worse. You know who's consistent? Me. Insanely so. I've had the same number of hits each game this year.

Frayed Knot Sep 03 2014 07:25 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Speaking of delusional, Michael Kay seems surprised that Carlos Beltran no longer runs particularly well. Gee Micky, do you think being 37 y/o with 23 knee operations behind him might have something to do with that?

MFS62 Sep 04 2014 06:10 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm getting sick and tired of how anyone who dares to criticize Derek Jeter acts as if they're also obligated to qualify their objections by first reminding everyone of just how great and awesome Jeter supposedly is. Proud to say that we here in the Pool are not guilty of doing that. We are the purveyors of unqualified criticism. Later

Lefty Specialist Sep 04 2014 06:25 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I love that the Yankees are locked into this death cycle of having to play Jeter at short every day and bat him second even though there are better lineup options. And it would be sweet if they missed the wild card by a game in doing so.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 04 2014 06:30 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Apparently there is some confusion about when and how MFYs are retiring No. 2 -- as if someone would want to wear it after being stained by Jeets!

Frayed Knot Sep 07 2014 06:13 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

A sampling of headlines from the Daily News [u:n3288ndq]just from today[/u:n3288ndq] HE'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST A BASEBALL PLAYER JETER SHINES BRIGHTEST IN THE CONSTELLATION OF NY SPORTS STARS CLASSY YANKEE CAPTAIN WAS OUR OWN JOE DiMAGGIO SPORTS GREATS FROM YESTERDAY AND TODAY SHARE THEIR FAVORITE JETER MOMENTS TEN JETER CAREER MOMENTS THAT WILL LAST A LIFETIME

Trachsel My Tears Sep 07 2014 06:44 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

HE'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST A BASEBALL PLAYER Yes, he's also a gigantic douchebag, and a dessert topping. JETER SHINES BRIGHTEST IN THE CONSTELLATION OF NY SPORTS STARS Certainly, out of all the greatest athletes to have played in NYC, everyone agrees that Jeter was the best by far--why are we even discussing this settled topic, anyway? CLASSY YANKEE CAPTAIN WAS OUR OWN JOE DiMAGGIO--And even those of us who lived during Dimaggio's career prefer Jeter to Joe, it's obvious. Joe couldn't hold his jock. SPORTS GREATS FROM YESTERDAY AND TODAY SHARE THEIR FAVORITE JETER MOMENTS Wait--what about from the future? Surely, everyone born in the future will have Jeter's greatness instilled in them and they will firmly resist forming their own sports heroes because, after all, how could Jeter's greatness ever be topped, or even matched, or even approached, really? Eventually, we'll stop calling this planet "Earth" and simply rename it "Jeter." TEN JETER CAREER MOMENTS THAT WILL LAST A LIFETIME Ten? Are you crazy? Are you TRYING to insult Jeter by implying that only ten of his superhuman achievements, including winning the MVP award every single season he played PLUS winning Gold Gloves at all nine positions simultaneously every year as well, will last a lifetime? Ten? There are a hundred, a million, an infinite number of immortal career moments for Jeter, and anyone who thinks otherwise just isn't being objective about it.

Edgy MD Sep 07 2014 01:15 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

You neglect to mention the arbitrary drop-dead date of a "lifetime." As if the end of all our natural lives will stop this shower of shit that is the Jeter mythology machine.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 07 2014 03:27 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Nice of the Yankees to summon their inner-intangibles on Derek Jeter Day and pull out a win for their walking legend. Oh, wait. The Royals shut them out 2-0. Nevermind.

Trachsel My Tears Sep 07 2014 03:46 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Hmmm, I gave myself an idea for a science-fiction movie. The premise is that in about 1000 years time, we get invaded by a vastly superior species of aliens, who've figured out faster-than-light travel, have weapons up their yin-yangs (and they DO have yin-yangs, btw, BIG ones), but are here on a friendly exploratory mission to bring us benighted Earthlings--sorry, Jeterlings--the secret to immortality and peace, BUT: one of these aliens happens to ask how our planet came to be called "Jeter," and to a man we rise up in fury at their ignorance of Derek the Great, and attempt to murder them for their colossal ignorance. All humans, naturally, are slaughtered by the confused but still vastly superior race of aliens, and the planet Jeter is left a heap of smouldering rubble. The final scene of the movie has the chief alien muttering to his second-in-command, "They seemed so pleasant at first--what do you suppose made them all snap like that?" The door to their space-ship closes, and --credits roll.

G-Fafif Sep 07 2014 04:04 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Appropriate of Royals to RE2PECT the Captain by presenting MFYs with a 2-run loss.

MFS62 Sep 07 2014 04:48 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

G-Fafif wrote: Appropriate of Royals to RE2PECT the Captain by presenting MFYs with a 2-run loss. And, while he wasn't a direct participant, it was also appropriate that the runs were scored as a result of errors. Call it the "Jeter factor". Later

Frayed Knot Sep 07 2014 06:17 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I would have liked to see some of the highlights from the other games today but I know if I turned on the 7:00 BB2N I would be inundated with Jeter-fest as if the other 14 games never occurred, so I boycotted.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 07 2014 06:29 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

G-Fafif wrote: Appropriate of Royals to RE2PECT the Captain by presenting MFYs with a 2-run loss. Bad ass!

d'Kong76 Sep 07 2014 06:59 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I have a couple of fb friends that that are freakishly in love with the fanfare of Jeter retirement.

Trachsel My Tears Sep 08 2014 06:37 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Between innings yesterday on FB, I was stamping out all sorts of trash-fires with Jeter-acolytes, who were all enflamed with rage yesterday that their guy wasn't getting the universal respect that he so obviously deserves. Killed about two hours of my day, but what else can you accomplish during commercials anyway?

Frayed Knot Sep 08 2014 06:51 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Apparently the big news from yesterday's [crossout:3llbr01a]beatification[/crossout:3llbr01a] er, ceremony was that Andy Pettitte was a no-show. How long do you suppose it is until all references to AP's existence on the Yanx is erased and he starts disappearing from old photos like some disgraced ex-Kremlin-ite?

Lefty Specialist Sep 08 2014 07:02 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I heard Jeter visited a sick kid in a hospital yesterday and promised him that he'd hit a weak ground ball to third just for him. And he did. It's a miracle, I tells ya.

Edgy MD Sep 08 2014 07:35 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Did the broadcast go off without commercial interruption?

Frayed Knot Sep 08 2014 07:40 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Did the broadcast go off without commercial interruption? The broadcast WAS a commercial interruption. Every time I clicked over to the game and it was between innings (or, Hell, maybe it was between pitches) the ad running wasn't your normal sponsor's ad but rather one hawking Jeter-related memorabilia. Anything with a #2 stamped on it was being offered--BUT JUST FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY!!!! On a related note: Big article in the Sunday NYTimes sports section on Steiner Sports and his relationship w/the Yanx (which I haven't read yet).

Ceetar Sep 08 2014 07:42 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Packed house over at YSIII..but not sold out.

Edgy MD Sep 08 2014 07:47 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

He took the field alone? HE TOOK THE FIELD ALONE?!! Will the Mets please promise me that they'll never do anything like this with David Wright or any future Met even if he has 3,000 hits, 600 homers, five championships, and saves the president's children? I can't fathom how a fan --- or Jeter himself --- can see these over-manufactured moments as anything but distasteful and embarrassing.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 08 2014 07:50 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Jeter clearly doesn't have an ounce of humility.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 08 2014 07:55 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Take it for what it's worth but according to a MFY-Lovin Douchebag facebook pal of mine, Jeets has been seen at an exclusive gay club and may use his retirement to come out of the closet.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 08 2014 07:57 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

That would be THE BEST THING EVER!

Trachsel My Tears Sep 08 2014 08:00 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Take it for what it's worth but according to a MFY-Lovin Douchebag facebook pal of mine, Jeets has been seen at an exclusive gay club and may use his retirement to come out of the closet. Not there's anything wrong with that, of course.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 08 2014 08:02 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Course not! Jeets has also said he wants kids so I think he'll go "beard" all the way.

Ceetar Sep 08 2014 08:14 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

A reporter dared to forget to silence her cellphone during the Jeter [crossout:12fjzbcg]train[/crossout:12fjzbcg]..press conference so of course he took it and answered it and hung up on her husband.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 08 2014 08:55 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Last night I was watching the Mets 1973 highlight film -- part of that glorious boxed set -- and they got to the Willie Mays retirement ceremony part. I was struck by the contrast, and by how much more dignified Willie's farewell was. I realize times change, and if a player of Willie's abilities -- of which Jeter is NOT -- retired today, there would be lots of hoopla. But I think the whole farewell tour nonsense is out of control. Gifts at every ballpark, All-Star Games focused on one player ... it's becoming increasingly over-the-top to the point of absurdity. And is Jeter super-special, or will we start to see this for every potential Hall-of-Famer? Or, is this a cautionary tale for great -- and classy -- players to not announce their retirement until the end of the season so they don't have to be embarrassed like this? "Willie, say goodbye to America" was so much better. (Steps off soapbox)

Edgy MD Sep 08 2014 10:24 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

First farewell tour I recall was for Dr. J.

Trachsel My Tears Sep 08 2014 10:53 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Or, is this a cautionary tale for great -- and classy -- players to not announce their retirement until the end of the season so they don't have to be embarrassed like this? Don't you get the impression that Jeter is eating this shit up with a spoon? I mean, he could just nip this in the bud by refusing to participate in it at all, or simply "Ix-nay on the -eremony-cay, ok?" I see him all modest and bashful and shit, but when that Yankee-PR door shuts behind him, he's all, "No, no, no!! More! Bigger! Longer!"

d'Kong76 Sep 08 2014 11:08 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jeets has been seen at an exclusive gay club and may use his retirement to come out of the closet. Now that would be a press conference for the ages!

dgwphotography Sep 08 2014 11:12 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Trachsel My Tears wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Or, is this a cautionary tale for great -- and classy -- players to not announce their retirement until the end of the season so they don't have to be embarrassed like this? Don't you get the impression that Jeter is eating this shit up with a spoon? I mean, he could just nip this in the bud by refusing to participate in it at all, or simply "Ix-nay on the -eremony-cay, ok?" I see him all modest and bashful and shit, but when that Yankee-PR door shuts behind him, he's all, "No, no, no!! More! Bigger! Longer!" Jeter is this generation's DiMaggio, and I don't mean that as a complement. 20 years from now, I can see Jetes demanding to be the last introduced at every Yankee Stadium event, and as "The Greatest Living Ballplayer*". *(c) MFY PR Machine.

Edgy MD Sep 08 2014 11:15 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The funny thing is that the narrative of Jeter's retirement decision was that "Unlike Willie Mays, he elected to go out on his own terms" (as if he hasn't now been a bad player for far longer than Willie). But when it's clear that this whole thing is crass and pathetic, it's all "Derek doesn't really want this." Like he's helpless in the matter. The Mets should have a year-long retirement ceremony for Bobby Abreu or Tim Byrdak or somebody.

bmfc1 Sep 08 2014 11:20 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I thought of the title of this thread when I saw this today: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/ ... a-funeral/

Trachsel My Tears Sep 08 2014 11:22 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: "Unlike Willie Mays, he elected to go out on his own terms" (as if he hasn't now been a bad player for far longer than Willie). Unlike Willie Mays, his team did not make the playoffs at all his final season, with his disgracefully inept play being a direct cause of that fact.

Lefty Specialist Sep 08 2014 11:24 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I don't think Jeter's capable of being embarrassed by the pomposity of it all. He saw Mariano get his farewell tour, and he wanted a bigger, better, and more ass-kissing one. He got it. I can't wait for Joe Buck to say at the World Series, "It would have been much better if this could have been Derek Jeter's farewell." And then...wait for it...they'll cut to a long loving shot of St. Jeter in the VIP section in a pinstriped down coat. The DiMaggio comparison is spot-on. Joe was very protective about his image as the Greatest Living Player, and was an SOB to those who didn't play along.

Edgy MD Sep 08 2014 11:25 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Please let not posterity confuse that fragment with an actual quote of mine.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 08 2014 11:52 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Course not! Jeets has also said he wants kids so I think he'll go "beard" all the way. Gay men and gay male couples can and do have kids. I can imagine in Jeter's case there will be a reality tv series featuring adorable orphans from Africa, Asia, and Latin America putting forth their case on why they deserve to be adopted by the Captain.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 08 2014 12:03 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Homophobic baseball commentators suddenly more accepting. "Jeter made all the gay men around him better."

d'Kong76 Sep 08 2014 12:33 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Jeets isn't gay, he's intangibly bi-sexual.

Ceetar Sep 08 2014 12:36 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

[url]http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/david-ortiz-red-sox-retirement-tour-derek-jeter-mlb “What Derek Jeter is doing is fine because he’s Derek Jeter. What Mariano did is fine because it’s Mariano,” he said. “But I don’t know if I’m going to go through all that. I’m not going to wake up and be like, ‘I’m going to play this year and then not anymore.’ To me, it’s going to be how things go through the season and how I feel, and then I’m going to be like, ‘Mama, it’s over.’ I’m going to let her know.”

batmagadanleadoff Sep 08 2014 06:44 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

It's called Jeterating: I Wanna Like Derek Jeter! I do! Published by jposnanski on March 15, 2014 Jeterate. May 2008. People don’t believe me when I say that I really like Derek Jeter. I do! I think Jeter is an excellent player. I think Jeter is a smart player. I love the guy’s tenacity — he’s only missed 15 games in a season once — and I like his .317/.387/.461 lifetime line, and I respect that he will give you some power, some speed, and more often than not really good at-bats. And heck, I like the personality, the charisma, the star quality, the way other players talk about his leadership — I don’t know what all that’s worth but it’s gotta be worth something. So why is it that I’m often writing negative things about Derek Jeter? I realized Friday that it has absolutely nothing to do with Jeter himself. No, what drives me batty is that Jeter — maybe because of his star power, or maybe because he’s a Yankee, or maybe because he’s made some very big plays on the national stage, or maybe because he dated all the supermodels, I honestly don’t know what it is — Jeter brings out this quality in people, this superiority, this … it just drives me insane I don’t know if there’s a word for this quality so, as we do here, I’m going to invent a word. Jeterate (verb) meaning “to praise someone for something of which he or she is entirely unworthy of praise.” Example: “The father could not but jeterate his daughter for coloring on the wall because she looked so cute.” Or: “The employee, knowing his job was on the line, jeterated his boss for almost making a 3-foot putt. ‘That was an incredible putt,“ the employee said. ”With that intense break, I doubt Tiger Woods would have even lipped out like you did.“ Or: “The doctor jeterated his patient for not actually gaining any more weight since the visit four days earlier.” And so on. See, the thing is Derek Jeter is such a good baseball player — I mean, we are talking about a no-doubt, first ballot Hall of Famer here — that people don’t need to jeterate him for his fielding. The guy sucks as a defensive shortstop, OK? He’s brutal out there. Every detailed defensive number shows it. He’s back near the bottom again in zone rating and range factor and, I’m sure, the Dewan plus/minus. Plus every scout who pays attention knows he can’t go two steps to his left and his arm is subpar. It’s OK! Really! He doesn’t have to be Mark Belanger. He’s a great hitter! He plays every day! He’s makes up for some of his flaws with his awareness and mental stamina! I wouldn’t be bothered by his defensive liabilities, I really wouldn’t, except, well, you know, so many people don’t think he HAS defensive liabilities. They give him freaking gold gloves. They knight him Sir Derek of Defensive Wizardry because 238 years ago he tagged Jeremy Giambi and jumped into the crowd on a foul ball. You see what happened there. I completely went overboard again. This is what Derek Jeter does to me. I like Derek Jeter. I do! I wouldn’t even care about Jeter’s deficient defense if certain people would just stop jeterating, stop mythmaking, stop telling me that the numbers are wrong and my eyes are wrong and that Jeter’s defensive brilliance is beyond my understanding, like the size of the universe or the appeal of Drew Barrymore. Of course, this rant wasn’t set off by Jeter’s defense. No. I was driving back to New York from Cooperstown*, where I did more 1975 Reds research (did I mention that I’m writing this book), and I was listening to the Yankees radio network and I heard the worst bit of jeterating I’ve heard in my entire life, and that’s saying something. *Here’s how you will know that I was in Cooperstown — I am at this very moment wearing a 1975 Cleveland Indians Crooked C hat. You know I used to be a big hat guy — loved wearing caps — and as my wife will tell you I have like 75 or 80 baseball caps in the closet. But somewhere along the way, I stopped wearing them. This wasn’t a conscious decision; I didn’t wake up one morning, look in the mirror, and say, “That’s it, pally, you’re a grown up now, it’s time to top wearing caps like you’re one of the Peanuts gang.” No. It just sort of gradually went in that direction. These days, for the most part, I only wear caps when I’m trying to prevent sun stroke. But this Crooked C hat that I got in Cooperstown could change all that. I love this hat. So, here’s the Jeter scenario. He gets hit by a pitch to lead off the fifth inning. Then the MBGPIBH* Bobby Abreu singles Jeter to third. A-Rod is up. You have the situation in your mind now, right? First and third, nobody out. A-Rod at the plate. *Most Boring Good Player In Baseball History. You can change “Good” to “Great” if you feel strongly about it. This is a versatile title. OK, you ready? A-Rod hits a ground ball to third base. Jeter takes off for home. Now, you can argue about whether or not heading home was the right call. I wasn’t watching the game, so I couldn’t tell you if this was a contact play, or if the Mariners were set up for the double play, or if Jeter (gasp) just got caught up. I don’t know, and it doesn’t matter. What matters is this, Mariners’ third baseman Adrian Beltre threw home and got Jeter into a rundown. Because Jeter is a good athlete, it took the Mariners three throws to get him and this gave the MBGPIBH and A-Rod enough time to get to second and third. So … you got the play in your mind, right? Now, do I need to say any more? If that had been David DeJesus getting caught up in the rundown, or Coco Crisp, or Melvin Mora or Placido Polanco or Endy Chavez or Mark Kotsay or just about anyone else you can think of, it would be described pretty plainly. The runner took off, it was unfortunate, but at least he stayed out there in the rundown long enough to allow the runners to move up. The words “at least” would have been used, no doubt about it. You don’t throw roses at players for getting caught in rundowns on third base with nobody out. But … this is Derek Jeter. And so, well, you know what’s coming. The Yankees radio crew — and these are good folk, hard workers, they’re just lost in the Jeter flood like so many — basically sang Hosanas to Derek Jeter for getting caught in a rundown. I’m not kidding here. They went on for five minutes about how the Captain willed those runners to second and third. They kept talking about how not only did Jeter stay in the rundown but he WAVED THOSE OTHER RUNNERS to the bag while he was doing it. Imagine. I was sitting there in the car absolutely stunned. This was Jeterating on a whole new level. He waved the other runners to their bags? Really? Like this: Mind of Derek Jeter: “Oh oh, I’m in a rundown here. I better let those other guys know what to do.” Mind of MBGPIBH: “I like cookies. They are delicious. Especially when they have chocolate chips.” Mind of Jeter: “No, Bobby! No! Dammit. I’ll bet he’s thinking about cookies. No! Run to the next base Bobby! No, that base! Third base! Come on Bobby, I can’t stay in this rundown all day.” Mind of MBGPIBH: “I don’t like oatmeal cookies so much. I wonder if it’s the oatmeal.” Mind of Jeter: “NO! That base! I’m waving here! Hello! I’m waving! Third base!” Mind of A-Rod: “Wow, what’s all the waving about. I think Derek’s trying to tell us something!” Mind of Mencia: “Something utterly not funny.” Mind of MBGPIBH: “Um, now, I also like doughnuts, but not the cake ones so much and … oh, hey, Derek’s waving. I better go to third base.” Mind of Jeter: “Whew. Thank you and, oh no, A-Rod, man, you’ve got to run too. Come on, I’m waving here.” Mind of A-Rod: “Is he waving goodbye? Is he leaving? I wonder if I’ll be the shortstop again. Man, I liked being shortstop, you know, I could tell pitchers what to throw and … oh, wait, he’s waving me to second base. Here I go!” No, seriously, this was what they were saying on the radio. He waved them to the next base! What a leader! What a man! Who else in the world could have gotten caught in a rundown long enough to get runners to move up? Wait, did he save a young child from a burning building during the rundown? I believe he did! What a player! What a humanitarian! And then, when Hideki Matsui singled to score both runners, they took it up another step and canonized Jeter. I suppose posts like this are why people don’t believe me when I tell them that I really like Derek Jeter. I do! I really, really, really do. If only people would just stop. http://joeposnanski.com/joevault/?p=27

Edgy MD Sep 08 2014 06:58 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

"The father could not but Jeterate his daughter..."?

Trachsel My Tears Sep 08 2014 07:21 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

That is some very funny shit right there. I love Posnanski.

Trachsel My Tears Sep 09 2014 05:12 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 09 2014 06:28 AM

they took it up another step and canonized Jeter. Now, HERE is a concept. I'm imagining a great big cannon, like from the Civil War, sitting at home plate, pointing out towards the deepest part of CF, and them lighting this cartoonish fuse, all sparkling and shit, and the stands filled to standing-room, chanting the countdown "10, 9, 8..." concluding with the Captain making a spectacular takeoff, as John Sterling intones in his robotic fashion, "It is high, it is far...." I'd buy a ticket for that.

Lefty Specialist Sep 09 2014 06:22 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

2015 will be the beginning of the Post-Jeter era, and there should be a drinking game where you take a shot for every time Sterling and Waldman mention his name in a season he's not playing in. And don't take Opening Day, take a random game against the White Sox in July. I bet you'll pass out before the sixth inning. Michael Kay will perform this duty on the TV side as well. They'll be bereft without The Captain.

MFS62 Sep 09 2014 06:46 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Trachsel My Tears wrote: they took it up another step and canonized Jeter. Now, HERE is a concept. I'm imagining a great big cannon, like from the Civil War, sitting at home plate, pointing out towards the deepest part of CF, and them lighting this cartoonish fuse, all sparkling and shit, and the stands filled to standing-room, chanting the countdown "10, 9, 8..." concluding with the Captain making a spectacular takeoff, as John Sterling intones in his robotic fashion, "It is high, it is far...." And Suzyn Waldman will shriek, "OH MY GAWD! Derek Jeter is in the bleachers!" Later

Edgy MD Sep 09 2014 07:30 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The funny thing is we've transitioned pretty smoothly over the Steiny years from Guidry to Mattingly to Jeter. Who will take up the banner to represent all that is Yankees about the Yankees? Gardner? Tanaka? I imagine Yankee fans aren't feeling it.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 09 2014 08:01 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

A-Rod, of course, when he slides into the shortstop position next year.

seawolf17 Sep 09 2014 09:10 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

loljeter http://deadspin.com/11-sports-gifs-that ... 1632299104

Ceetar Sep 09 2014 09:21 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

loljeter http://deadspin.com/11-sports-gifs-that ... 1632299104 I almost scrolled past. that's gold. GOLD.

Centerfield Sep 09 2014 09:35 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Classy Things Derek Jeter has done this year: 1. Discretely asked teams to forego the fanfare of a farewell tour, instead, focusing on the games to be played. 2. Seeking out Girardi and telling him he should rightfully be dropped in the batting order. 3. Seeking out Girardi and telling him he should rightfully not start any games at SS. 4. Nipping the rumored "Jeter Patch" in the bud and not letting it see the light of day. A source with knowledge of the discussions has quoted Jeter as saying, "That is over the top. How can I wear a patch to commemorate myself? That takes ego to new heights. Besides, it feels morbid. I may not be the player I once was, but I'm not dead yet. In fact, I'm feeling much better. I think I'll go for a walk."

Trachsel My Tears Sep 09 2014 11:12 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

"Today, I consider myself the schmuckiest man in the world. (man-man-man-in-in-in-the-the-the-world-world-world) I may have been given every conceivable break (able-able-able-break-break-break) but I have built those with my keen PR team (pee-pee-pee are-are-are-team-team-team) into the image of the greatest Yankee who ever put on his pants (on-on-on-his-his-his-pants-pants-pants)...."

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 09 2014 11:40 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

In No. 4, I'm sure he was AIMING for the stands rather than Texiera. Derek doesn't make mistakes.

dgwphotography Sep 09 2014 01:08 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

seawolf17 wrote: loljeter http://deadspin.com/11-sports-gifs-that ... 1632299104 Best comment from that bit of heaven: RESPE6T

Edgy MD Sep 09 2014 02:02 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Derek Jeter is so awesome he made his glove intangible.

Ashie62 Sep 09 2014 06:18 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

If you experience an erection lasting more than four hours start rubbing your Jeter bobblehead.

Frayed Knot Sep 14 2014 08:52 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

So Jeter is now 0 for his last 24 ABs (and 5 for September) How cool would it be if this streak continued for all or most of his remaining games?

G-Fafif Sep 14 2014 11:40 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Andrew Marchand ordered to whip up a humanizing profile of the Captain because they can no longer write about his on-field excellence. He comes up with, "Derek kidded me about not seeing a movie. He's wonderful!" He could not believe I've never seen "American History X." He wanted my review, and he asked me a couple of times if I had seen it yet. I explained that I've got a job, a family, etc. Not everyone can just watch a movie whenever they want to. He joked that he was cutting me off. David Lennon, meanwhile, begs us to look away from Jeter's no longer spinnable performance and simply bask in his gentle goodness. What does it all mean in the final equation? Not much, I guess. Jeter deserves to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer and has been treated like one every step toward his retirement. The fact that he's played more games (132) than anyone else on the Yankees but Jacoby Ellsbury (143) and Brett Gardner (135) is remarkable. And that includes 121 games at shortstop, a high-impact position we didn't think his surgically repaired ankle could handle for an entire season. Girardi has remained loyal, Jeter, but he's also had a built-in alibi: Most of the lineup has been worse. Tinkering with a Yankees legend was pointless. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze. The Yankees didn't fail this season because Jeter didn't have the kind of year we're used to celebrating from him. Maybe we just wanted a better farewell party for him and ran out of suggestions on how to make it happen. Right now, we'll settle for a memorable two weeks. If his first-ballot Hall of Fame career has been so memorable, what difference does it make how his final two weeks unfurl? Gads, how they want him to be interesting and he just isn't and never was. The thing they admired him for -- he was always about winning and blah blah blah -- is no longer in play and they desperately want him to be a person after 20 years of being a robot so they can canonize him on both counts.

Lefty Specialist Sep 15 2014 06:09 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The juice wasn't worth the squeeze. In other words, tinkering to try to win ballgames wasn't worth it if you were going to be perceived as disrespecting The Captain. So the last two weeks isn't about trying to make the playoffs, it's about savoring every little drop of Captainness. Somewhere in hell, George Steinbrenner is firing people.

seawolf17 Sep 15 2014 07:27 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Frayed Knot wrote: So Jeter is now 0 for his last 24 ABs (and 5 for September) How cool would it be if this streak continued for all or most of his remaining games? You know that would never happen, but IF IT DID, I'd bet dollars to donuts that whoever's pitching the last game of the year tells his infield to sit down and lobs one underhand for him.

Edgy MD Sep 15 2014 07:28 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: The funny thing is we've transitioned pretty smoothly over the Steiny years from Guidry to Mattingly to Jeter. Who will take up the banner to represent all that is Yankees about the Yankees? Gardner? Tanaka? I imagine Yankee fans aren't feeling it. There's a feeling out there that MLB has spent so long proclaiming Jeter the one pure lamb in a forest of evil wolves that the whole sport is primed for a post-Jeter letdown. I'm not ready to buy it, but...

seawolf17 Sep 15 2014 07:35 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The funny thing is we've transitioned pretty smoothly over the Steiny years from Guidry to Mattingly to Jeter. Who will take up the banner to represent all that is Yankees about the Yankees? Gardner? Tanaka? I imagine Yankee fans aren't feeling it. There's a feeling out there that MLB has spent so long proclaiming Jeter the one pure lamb in a forest of evil wolves that the whole sport is primed for a post-Jeter letdown. I'm not ready to buy it, but... Yankees missing the postseason two years in row minus Jeter plus a young, exciting Mets team plus Matt Harvey = ??? I am intrigued. Buy us a shortstop (Hanley?) and an outfielder (the Cuban kid?), Sandy, and let's win this city back.

Ceetar Sep 15 2014 07:47 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The funny thing is we've transitioned pretty smoothly over the Steiny years from Guidry to Mattingly to Jeter. Who will take up the banner to represent all that is Yankees about the Yankees? Gardner? Tanaka? I imagine Yankee fans aren't feeling it. There's a feeling out there that MLB has spent so long proclaiming Jeter the one pure lamb in a forest of evil wolves that the whole sport is primed for a post-Jeter letdown. I'm not ready to buy it, but... Yankees missing the postseason two years in row minus Jeter plus a young, exciting Mets team plus Matt Harvey = ??? I am intrigued. Buy us a shortstop (Hanley?) and an outfielder (the Cuban kid?), Sandy, and let's win this city back. Also, better ballpark. Don't worry, I'm sure the Mets and/or Adam Rubin will beat the interesting out of Harvey soon enough.

Frayed Knot Sep 15 2014 07:49 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The funny thing is we've transitioned pretty smoothly over the Steiny years from Guidry to Mattingly to Jeter. Who will take up the banner to represent all that is Yankees about the Yankees? Gardner? Tanaka? I imagine Yankee fans aren't feeling it. There's a feeling out there that MLB has spent so long proclaiming Jeter the one pure lamb in a forest of evil wolves that the whole sport is primed for a post-Jeter letdown. I'm not ready to buy it, but... The national media is certainly buying it. They already think that baseball is virtually dead and that Jeter is its sole remaining attribute. From a strictly MFY POV, the dirty little secret in the Bronx is that they packed the house MUCH more in the ARod years then they ever did before or since. Only those "loser" teams from the first decade this century drew 4+ million (2005-2008 - a span which included ARod's two MVP years) far outdrawing those 'beloved' 1990s squads which averaged in the high-twos (96-98) to low threes beginning in '99. From ARod's arrival until his downfall they never drew under 3.7

Ceetar Sep 15 2014 07:53 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

They averaged 4400 more fans a game the year they signed A-Rod. ~330,000 more fans, which at even $20 a ticket is $7 million not factoring in other ancillary income.

Edgy MD Sep 15 2014 07:55 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Yankee fans like wolves more than they care to admit, I guess.

Centerfield Sep 15 2014 08:04 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Flipping around I saw a stat that he had been 0 for his last 23 (or something like that). Last two weeks? I think they have this wrong. I think he retired two weeks ago...

Ceetar Sep 15 2014 08:06 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Centerfield wrote: Flipping around I saw a stat that he had been 0 for his last 23 (or something like that). Last two weeks? I think they have this wrong. I think he retired two weeks ago... Only has bat.

Edgy MD Sep 15 2014 08:12 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Adam Wainwright has got to get on the league to his AL colleagues and remind them of their obligation to groove Jeter his pitches. Unless they are grooving, and he's still not catching up.

MFS62 Sep 15 2014 09:30 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Centerfield wrote: Flipping around I saw a stat that he had been 0 for his last 23 (or something like that). But during that time, he has continued to make the players around him better. Later

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 16 2014 07:02 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

MFS62 wrote: Centerfield wrote: Flipping around I saw a stat that he had been 0 for his last 23 (or something like that). But during that time, he has continued to make the players around him better. Later Well, the other players certainly LOOK better by comparison.

Trachsel My Tears Sep 16 2014 08:25 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

In yesterday's Times, they ran an article claiming that Jeter, if he returned next year, certainly would be completely unable to play shortstop because of his minuscule range and weak throwing arm, but is doing a fine job through the end of this season. Do these people know how to recognize the sound of their lips kissing Jeter's ass? It's unmistakeable.

Edgy MD Sep 16 2014 08:56 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Early in the year, maybe even during the spring training, a high school classmate posted the following, "Jeter is irreplaceable but thank God he's retiring." OK.

d'Kong76 Sep 16 2014 09:09 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

It's kinda true though, no? Did Captain Intangibles start as a joke making fun of him, or was it a serious thing that fans started calling him because they couldn't quite say why he or how he was so great?

bmfc1 Sep 16 2014 09:41 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Puke: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/ ... -baseball/

Trachsel My Tears Sep 16 2014 10:02 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

d'Kong76 wrote: It's kinda true though, no? Did Captain Intangibles start as a joke making fun of him, or was it a serious thing that fans started calling him because they couldn't quite say why he or how he was so great? No, I'm sure it started as mockery, when you couldn't talk to a Yankee fan without being berated for failing to grasp the "intangible" qualities that Jeter has that can never be quantified, put down on paper, show up in the boxscore, be adequately described, etc. He's just great, whatever the stupid stats show, or your own lying eyes, for that matter. The other fact, that they refer to him as "The Captain," like being the captain of a baseball team is some kind of quasi-military honor, got combined into the derisive nickname "Captain Intangibles." I don't think Yankee fans, other than the most deluded, which is 75% of them, use it seriously.

Edgy MD Sep 17 2014 12:44 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Girardi... what a mook that guy is.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 17 2014 11:31 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

bmfc1 wrote: Puke: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/ ... -baseball/ That's a clown comment, bro.

bmfc1 Sep 18 2014 07:32 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Holy crap, there's a 90 second Gatorade commercial where Jeter, in part, cavorts with regular people, as we hear Frank sing "My Way." At the end, he tips his cap at NMFYS. I didn't watch the whole thing because I couldn't. I won't link to it on principle.

Ceetar Sep 18 2014 09:29 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

bmfc1 wrote: Holy crap, there's a 90 second Gatorade commercial where Jeter, in part, cavorts with regular people, as we hear Frank sing "My Way." At the end, he tips his cap at NMFYS. I didn't watch the whole thing because I couldn't. I won't link to it on principle. Have you noticed how all of the most promoted Jeter moments this year have all been about advertising and selling things?

Frayed Knot Sep 18 2014 09:45 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Holy crap, there's a 90 second Gatorade commercial where Jeter, in part, cavorts with regular people, as we hear Frank sing "My Way." At the end, he tips his cap at NMFYS. I didn't watch the whole thing because I couldn't. I won't link to it on principle. Have you noticed how all of the most promoted Jeter moments this year have all been about advertising and selling things? But all of it is against his will.

d'Kong76 Sep 18 2014 12:23 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

This is pretty funny... [youtube:203zi27b]xfgS1lvqX8I[/youtube:203zi27b]

Frayed Knot Sep 18 2014 02:09 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Considering how much Jetes hates all this publicity and fuss surrounding his farewell tour (I know he does cuz Michael Kay et al keep telling me so) it was really low of Gatorade to stalk him with those cameras like that (do you suppose he saw them?) and at the same time very fortunate for them that Derek just happened to keep walking past their logos at every turn.

d'Kong76 Sep 18 2014 02:30 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I'll yup© that, and raise you one yup©.

d'Kong76 Sep 18 2014 03:12 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

http://deadspin.com/a-more-honest-versi ... 1636414327

Lefty Specialist Sep 19 2014 01:52 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Love the weak ground ball double play. So Captainly.

Ashie62 Sep 19 2014 06:18 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

And SNY's Chris Carlin buries Jeter. [url]http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24716444/tv-shock-jock-on-jeter-this-clowns-a-fraud-and-you-are-all-suckers

d'Kong76 Sep 19 2014 06:36 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

New Era's gift to Cap'n Jeets...

Edgy MD Sep 19 2014 07:22 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Minor accomplishment that I haven't gotten in any online arguments regarding that damn commercial. Marchman don't like it much either.

d'Kong76 Sep 19 2014 07:34 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: Minor accomplishment that I haven't gotten in any online arguments regarding that damn commercial. Me too. Except for the friends I have here, everyone else is a Yankee fan. Some of them are too much, calling it the classiest commercial ever made.

Fman99 Sep 19 2014 07:50 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I loved it. But I don't really know who this "Jeter" guy is. I hope that, like most unlikely visitors to the Bronx, he gets shivved in the heart with a sharpened fast foot utensil.

MFS62 Sep 19 2014 09:23 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

d'Kong76 wrote: New Era's gift to Cap'n Jeets... Wow! That team's hat with a flat brim, like those worn by the guys caught on video when they knock off a convenience store. Later

G-Fafif Sep 20 2014 12:57 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

MFY fans have to be begged to forget The Captain can't play any longer -- otherwise he might not pop in on MFYS III neighbors all spontaneously unannounced ever again. To some extent, of course, this whole Yankee season has been about Derek Jeter’s departure. But with the club’s playoff dreams fading like the last flicker of orange in a sunset, this final home stand of Jeter’s career has morphed into one long Bronx goodbye before the real end in Boston. Which is why we offer some advice for you, the fan: Don’t blow it. The consecutive four-game series against the Blue Jays and the Orioles are your last chance to see the man in person, in town, in pinstripes. Appreciate it. Take your kids. Bring your ma. How about going with the gang to watch Jeter from the bleachers one last time, maybe? [...] But don’t spend your time dwelling on how this is Jeter’s worst non-injury season. Don’t deny it — for some of you, that has gotten in the way lately. You need to forget the bad year. Forget the frustrating groundouts off his bat, the diminished power, the compromised range of a 40-year-old shortstop. Ignore where he hits in the lineup and stop fretting over Joe Girardi keeping him where he belongs, in the two-hole. It’s not a big deal, especially now.

G-Fafif Sep 20 2014 12:59 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The Murray Chassiest paragraph ever written that has nothing to do with bacne or how his blog isn't a blog. Jeter has had his defensive critics, especially in his later years, but when they start using defensive statistics to make their case, they lose their credibility, as far as I am concerned. Jeter has always had intangibles that the statistics cannot measure.

Edgy MD Sep 20 2014 08:57 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

It's a funny world where you lose ALL credibility by citing data. Any data.

bmfc1 Sep 20 2014 09:34 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/ ... s-parents/

HahnSolo Sep 20 2014 10:33 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Ashie62 wrote: And SNY's Chris Carlin buries Jeter. [url]http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24716444/tv-shock-jock-on-jeter-this-clowns-a-fraud-and-you-are-all-suckers Never been a Carlin fan, but thank you, Chris. I'm glad someone said something. Tired of being told by just about everyone that this Gatorade thing is the most bestest, classiest, and most touching thing ever done. Heaven forbid anyone suggest that Jeter is not Babe Ruth, the Pope, and Mandela all rolled into one.

bmfc1 Sep 21 2014 11:21 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

What's more important to MLB Network, fillating Jeter or covering a pennant race? Here's your answer: http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/mlb-net ... -game.html

Mets – Willets Point Sep 21 2014 11:28 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Fawning sports media: "Derek Jeter is so great he's found a way to put the I into Team!"

G-Fafif Sep 22 2014 10:50 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

An exclusive inside look at the Least Interesting Man In The World.

Ceetar Sep 22 2014 11:06 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Tim Marchman: Tim Marchman lambasts the commercial, and the media for promoting it for free

Edgy MD Sep 22 2014 11:10 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The backlash has been tremendous. Even so, folks in my FB feed drooling over the commercial insist there has never been anything bad said or written about the guy. Quel?!

MFS62 Sep 23 2014 07:32 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I'm wondering which broadcast team Jeter will be joining to cover the post season. Later

seawolf17 Sep 23 2014 08:10 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

MFS62 wrote: I'm wondering which broadcast team Jeter will be joining to cover the post season. Later Holy crap, I didn't even think about that. Surefire way to torpedo ratings.

Ceetar Sep 23 2014 08:18 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

seawolf17 wrote: MFS62 wrote: I'm wondering which broadcast team Jeter will be joining to cover the post season. Later Holy crap, I didn't even think about that. Surefire way to torpedo ratings. He doesn't seem like one of those guys that would be interested in that. There's a particularly nasty write-up on him in NYMag that has the usual painting his arrogance as a positive trappings

bmfc1 Sep 23 2014 09:00 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

http://nypost.com/2014/09/22/hypocritic ... ut-on-top/ He always wins. Even when his on-the-field performance hurts his team. Even when he flirts with lines he always made sure not to cross. He is that good at being a public figure.

Ceetar Sep 23 2014 09:04 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

bmfc1 wrote: http://nypost.com/2014/09/22/hypocritical-jeter-always-somehow-comes-out-on-top/ He always wins. Even when his on-the-field performance hurts his team. Even when he flirts with lines he always made sure not to cross. He is that good at being a public figure. It's a fair point but it credits Jeter with it instead of discrediting the media for their partisanship. Once something real bad comes out though, it'll be interesting to see if he gets the Tiger treatment.

Edgy MD Sep 23 2014 09:20 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I thought Jeter jumped the shark with the Gatorade commercial. And I, 18 years earlier. Someday, somebody is going to explain to me how "I did it my way" is, in itself, virtuous.

metirish Sep 23 2014 09:24 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Tim Marchman: Tim Marchman lambasts the commercial, and the media for promoting it for free that was great

SteveJRogers Sep 23 2014 07:22 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

[url]http://deadspin.com/keith-olbermann-takes-a-big-ol-poo-on-derek-jeter-1638319731

metirish Sep 23 2014 07:28 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

DGW posted that on FB, it is gold, every utterance in there is gold

Edgy MD Sep 23 2014 07:36 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

He could be less of a smug tool. I mean, snarking like that will just elevate the myth of Jeter's "classiness."

Frayed Knot Sep 23 2014 08:26 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: He could be less of a smug tool No he can't. Even if he were to try real hard. It;s just not in him. That said, he's been on this topic of the over-the-top Jete-a-thon for a while now. This one was just more extensive than the others.

MFS62 Sep 23 2014 09:24 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: He could be less of a smug tool No he can't. Even if he were to try real hard. It;s just not in him. That said, he's been on this topic of the over-the-top Jete-a-thon for a while now. This one was just more extensive than the others. To expand on a famous W.C. Fields quote, "anyone who hates kids, dogs, and Derek Jeter can't be all bad". Later

Frayed Knot Sep 23 2014 09:40 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

But you see the thing is that Olbemann is a Yanqui fan! Grew up one anyway and his family had prime tickets for years. Famously, back when Chuck Knoblauch was having his throwing problems one of his errant throws which wound up multiple rows behind the 1st base dugout wound up hitting Keith's mother in the face. So it's not Jeter hate, it's just someone who can no longer take the over-the-top send-off. Like I said before, this didn't come out of the blue, he's been building up to this for a while now.

Lefty Specialist Sep 24 2014 06:33 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Ah, that was refreshing. Yeah, Olbermann's over the top. That's his schtick- extreme umbrage. But just fun to watch all the same.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 24 2014 07:13 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I think we'll never see anything this over the top again, and people will actually take pride in saying they "didn't want to do the Derek Jeter thing" when retiring. He will become synonymous with over-the-top, over-commercialized, bloated to the point of embarrassment (if the person had the capacity to be embarrassed by such a thing) departures. Can you really imagine another elite athlete wearing those shoes? I think we're seeing a perfect storm of an athlete with an ego far larger than his self-awareness, a team that thinks arrogance is a virtue, a fan base that buys into elitism and entitlement, a fawning, follow-the-pack media, and shameless sponsors smart enough to tap into all of this and use social media and click-based journalism to its advantage. Seriously, I can't blame Gatorade. It produced that thing and let social media and websites run that ad without even charging the company for it.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2014 08:22 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

If this is a tipping point, and Jeter's act will become seen nationally as a negative thing, well, that would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

Frayed Knot Sep 24 2014 10:02 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I suspect it'll be treated less as a path too crass to follow and more as one that no one else will ever be worthy of. And that, of course, is Olbermann's whole point, not that Jeter hasn't had a terrific career but that this level of adulation has just become so totally out of whack.

d'Kong76 Sep 24 2014 12:41 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Louisville Slugger press release: (unbelieavable) LOUISVILLE SLUGGER® RETIRES P72 BAT MODEL IN HONOR OF DEREK JETER NEW YORK CITY (September 24, 2014) – First times are rare when you’ve been in baseball as long as Louisville Slugger®, the Official Bat of Major League Baseball®. But the storied company did something today that it’s never done in its 130 years in the game. It retired a bat model in honor of a player. In an unprecedented display of respect and admiration from a sporting goods manufacturer, Louisville Slugger announced it is retiring Derek Jeter’s famous P72. “Derek has swung one bat model from one bat company his entire career,” said James Sass, Director of Professional Baseball Sales for the Louisville, Kentucky-based company. “Derek has made over 12,500 plate appearances in his 20 seasons in MLB, and every single one of them has been with a Louisville Slugger P72. With Derek’s impending retirement, we thought it was fitting to retire his bat model in recognition of his brilliant career. We are grateful for his enduring and unwavering loyalty. We won’t be making the P72 anymore – in honor of Derek.” Today in Yankee Stadium, Louisville Slugger officials gave Jeter an award to commemorate the retirement of the bat model. It has “The Last P72” mounted on the base to commemorate the company’s decision. “I signed out of high school and I was looking for a wooden bat,” Jeter said. “Louisville Slugger, it goes without saying, how reputable they are, how long they’ve been around, how much success people have had with it. In terms of the model, I just picked the bat that was shaped like my aluminum bat. It was the P72, and, in my entire career, I’ve never swung another bat.” RENAMING THE P72 FOR DEREK JETER Jeter’s decision to choose and stick with the P72 is one that has certainly worked out well for him. He’s now ranked sixth on the all-time career hits list. The P72 has been one of the more popular models with MLB® players over the decades. In addition to Jeter, it has been swung by Hall of Famers Cal Ripken, Jr., and Robin Yount, among others. The specifications of the P72, with its medium barrel and balanced swing weight, will still exist for players to order, but under a new model name. “Currently, guys like Lyle Overbay and Kelly Johnson in MLB and a few guys in the minor leagues swing the P72,” Sass said. “They’ll still be able to order the specifications of the bat but it will have a new name. We’re going to call it the DJ2 in recognition of Derek and his incredible career.” The DJ stands, obviously, for Jeter’s first and last initials while the number 2 signifies his uniform number. A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE There is one potential exception where Louisville Slugger will use the P72 name on bats again. The company says it will invoke a grandfather clause to use P72 for any descendent of the player for whom the bat was originally made: Les Pinkham “The P72 was created in 1954 for a minor leaguer named Leslie Wayne Pinkham from Elizabethtown, Kentucky,” said Tyler Sibley, Pro Bat Sales Assistant for Louisville Slugger. “Les Pinkham never made it to Major League Baseball, but his bat sure did – and it became one of the greatest models of all time. If any member of the Pinkham family makes it to professional baseball, we’ll be honored to make them bats using the P72 model number if they wish.” While that may sound far-fetched, in reality it isn’t. The Pinkhams are a baseball family. Les, for whom the P72 was created, had a son named Bill who also played professional baseball. Bill Pinkham was in the Reds organization and he swung a P72. Sadly, Bill is deceased, but he had a son Zeke who is a very good prospect. Zeke Pinkham plays for the 17U Evoshield Canes that just won the Perfect Game World Wood Bat Association championship and is expected to play Division I college baseball. “Zeke is playing at a high level in travel ball and he’s going to play at a high level in college, so chances are very good that he could get drafted to play pro ball in a few years and we’ll be making him P72s,” Sibley said. “We hope we have to. And as good as the P72 has been to Derek, we doubt he’ll mind if we pull the model number out for the family the P72 is named for.” RETIRING P72 MODEL WILL BENEFIT JETER’S TURN 2 FOUNDATION, LOUISVILLE SLUGGER BUYS BACK FIRST OF LAST P72s In addition to retiring the P72 model number, Louisville Slugger will also honor Jeter by giving him the final seventy-two P72 bats to be produced to raise funds for his beloved Turn 2 Foundation. The company is recommending that Derek sign and number the bats, 1 through 72, and auction them for his foundation. “We know how much Derek’s Turn 2 Foundation means to him, so we wanted to do something significant to help the organization as it works to positively impact young lives,” Sass said. “So we’re giving Derek the last 72 of his P72s to use for Turn 2. These bats will be amazing collector’s items, and, once they’re signed by Derek, they should help him raise a lot of money for his foundation.” Louisville Slugger Museum & Factory will purchase back the first of the last P72 bats to exhibit in its main gallery in Louisville. The museum provided a check for $5,000 to Jeter’s foundation for the bat, and to set the bar for these rare and collectible Derek Jeter P72s as Louisville Slugger supports the Turn 2 Foundation. ATTENTION MEDIA: For Derek Jeter and P72 bat images and video go to www.thelastP72.com About Louisville Slugger Louisville Slugger® is the Official Bat of Major League Baseball® and the #1 Bat in MLB®. It is synonymous with America’s pastime. Originating in 1884, Louisville Slugger bats have graced the hands of the greatest players in baseball, including stars of today. Known for helping create baseball history, Louisville Slugger continues to innovate and provide players the products and confidence they need to leave their mark and make new history every day.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 24 2014 12:58 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

George Brett used the Marv Throneberry model bat and Brett was a better player than Jeter.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2014 02:09 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The ghost of Derek Jeter grounds out to first in the bottom of the eighth. That's pretty much it, I guess.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2014 02:12 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Two-out Headley single and Teixiera homer and the Yanks are in the game 9-5. Another baserunner or two and this could really set him up to be the last guy at the plate if they leave him in.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2014 02:14 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Drew's up. I hadn't realized, but Shmeter is DHing. Gotta keep those legs healthy for... something.

HahnSolo Sep 24 2014 02:43 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: Drew's up. I hadn't realized, but Shmeter is DHing. Gotta keep those legs healthy for... something. All over now, as ex-Mets great Darren O'Day gets Gardner looking to end it with the Captain on deck. Ryan played short today; I assume Drew was playing second? It's officially Elimination Day!

Mets – Willets Point Sep 24 2014 02:43 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Game ends with Jeter on deck. Unable to hit a clutch home run that will knock the division title out of the Orioles' hands and deliver it to its "rightful place."

Lefty Specialist Sep 24 2014 02:44 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

What's next? Bronzing his used jock straps?

G-Fafif Sep 24 2014 02:45 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Call me sentimental, but I always get verklempt on Elimination Day. It's so beautiful, even if the celebrations aren't as raucous as they used to be.

Edgy MD Sep 24 2014 02:45 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Gardner had the grace to strike out looking and spare Jeter another clutchfail opportunity. Hasta mañana, Señor Eliminado.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 24 2014 02:57 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

G-Fafif wrote: Call me sentimental, but I always get verklempt on Elimination Day. It's so beautiful, even if the celebrations aren't as raucous as they used to be. I think we had a nice VY Day photoshop here a few years back.

themetfairy Sep 24 2014 05:07 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

G-Fafif wrote: Call me sentimental, but I always get verklempt on Elimination Day. It's so beautiful, even if the celebrations aren't as raucous as they used to be. It's a good way to start the new year!

Zvon Sep 24 2014 05:11 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

G-Fafif wrote: Call me sentimental, but I always get verklempt on Elimination Day. It's so beautiful, even if the celebrations aren't as raucous as they used to be. I think they are as raucous as they used to be (esp in the locker room) but there's not a trace of spontaneity in them anymore, imo. They all look like stock vid game celebrations.

SteveJRogers Sep 24 2014 06:16 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Current Weather Channel outlook for Thursday, a now completely meaningless ballgame with the Orioles pretty much locked into the second seed, a lot of cold and windy rain for most of the day and night! [youtube:31fn2gjb]gFhrMiEvwYA[/youtube:31fn2gjb]

d'Kong76 Sep 24 2014 06:28 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Do you have good seats??

MFS62 Sep 24 2014 06:52 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Jeter made everyone around him better today - especially the Orioles. Later

SteveJRogers Sep 24 2014 07:11 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

d'Kong76 wrote: Do you have good seats??

RealityChuck Sep 24 2014 09:05 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Keith Olbermann chimes in [youtube:1xkiup1g]__UJ9VZB508#t=129[/youtube:1xkiup1g]

MFS62 Sep 25 2014 06:40 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Its raining. Who will be the reporter who says the Heavens are crying because its Jeter's last home game? On second thought, they all will. Never mind. Later

d'Kong76 Sep 25 2014 08:03 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

SteveJRogers wrote: You've been a good sport, Jeets!

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 08:39 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Hamill: Even Mets fans can agree, Derek Jeter was a player worthy of admiration — particularly for his taste in women The Daily News' Denis Hamill making his move in the race to the bottom.

SteveJRogers Sep 25 2014 08:46 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

d'Kong76 wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: You've been a good sport, Jeets! I haven't said anything about what you guys do to our place when you guys run it! Don't tempt me *readies to hum Odd Couple theme*! ;) j/k though they should have a Jet Muesem to go with the Giants' one that is in there.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 25 2014 09:34 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

MFS62 wrote: Its raining. Who will be the reporter who says the Heavens are crying because its Jeter's last home game? On second thought, they all will. Never mind. Later It's going to rain because even God is sick of all this Jeterpalooza.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2014 10:08 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 25 2014 10:29 AM

Now THIS is the song that should have accompanied that Gatorade commercial And now, the end is here it’s time for Jetes to just retire His bat has gotten slow his range is gone, he don’t inspire. To the Bronx, he bids farewell. No more O’s, or Rays, or Blue Jays. Just one more trip, but it’s a pip, he goes to Fennnnn-Way Cheap gifts, he got a slew, most of them crap, but in his honor. The tributes were all his due, or so I heard, from Ian O’Connor. He laughed, he gripped and grinned, but c’mon, what else could he say? But then, just check next week, they’ll be on Eeeeee-Bay. But what of the sport? It won’t survive, sans Number 2, or some such jive. Without his clutch, without his leaps. But as ye sow, so shall ye reap. So when you’re gone, the game will go on. Go hit the Higggggh-Waaaaay.

d'Kong76 Sep 25 2014 10:19 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

¡ Bravo !

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 10:29 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

When I was twenty-one It was a very good year It was a very good year for city press Who wrote with great flair They'd see my rear And come undone When I was twenty-one

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 11:13 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

By the way, tonight is the anniversary of Willie Mays Night. As we know, Willie did everything wrong-wrong-wrong, and Jeter is somehow showing us the correct way to do every thing.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 25 2014 12:31 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The tributes were all his due, or so I heard, from Ian O’Connor. BAM! A canon ball of cool right there!

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2014 01:32 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

So do you suppose there's some just-hired flunky from Steiner Sports Collectibles whose job it is tonight to follow Jeter around and bag-up for sale the final dump he takes at the YSIII clubhouse bathroom?

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 01:57 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I have it on good authority that he poos the right way. We could all stand to learn a thing or two from that poo.

d'Kong76 Sep 25 2014 02:07 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I wonder if The Eagle will make a plate appearance tonight. Maybe a fly-by by five F-15's!

Mets – Willets Point Sep 25 2014 02:10 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: I have it on good authority that he poos the right way. We could all stand to learn a thing or two from that poo. #2's #2.

d'Kong76 Sep 25 2014 05:37 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Matt Harvey is at the game according to the booth.

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 05:38 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Is it completely taking leave of my senses to ask, [bigpurple:2ogieyiw]WHAT THE FUCK?![/bigpurple:2ogieyiw]

HahnSolo Sep 25 2014 05:48 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Yup, he supposedly posted a pic on his Instagram. Good thing for Matt that his current employer didn't have any engagements tonight. Oh...

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2014 05:58 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

In fairness to Harvey, he hasn't been making road trips all year (hell, he had to fight them just to attend HOME games) which essentially makes him a baseball fan in NYC with his night free.

d'Kong76 Sep 25 2014 06:01 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

The G's on everything Gatorade at the stadium have been replace by 2's. If that's not classy, I don't know what is.

Lefty Specialist Sep 25 2014 06:04 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Frayed Knot wrote: So do you suppose there's some just-hired flunky from Steiner Sports Collectibles whose job it is tonight to follow Jeter around and bag-up for sale the final dump he takes at the YSIII clubhouse bathroom? They'll find nothing. His poos are intangible. However, he makes everyone around him more regular.

MFS62 Sep 25 2014 06:15 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

d'Kong76 wrote: Matt Harvey is at the game according to the booth. I heartily second Edgy's big WTF. Harvey should have to carry the rookies' bags in spring training next year. Later

d'Kong76 Sep 25 2014 07:05 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Anyone know who is singing God Bless The Captain tonight?

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 07:30 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Poor Ryan Webb being called in to pitch to Mr. Jeter with the bases loaded. How do you tell somebody to groove it?

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 07:32 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Error. Somebody kill the official scorer.

MFS62 Sep 25 2014 07:48 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: Error. Somebody kill the official scorer. Jeter comes up big again. At least, that what will be written. Now, where did I leave that barf bag..... ? Later

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2014 08:11 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Adam Jones (1-out, 2R 9th inning HR) & Steven Pearce (2-out, solo 9th inning game-tying HR) obviously didn't get a copy of the script. ... or maybe they did because tying up the game means who-know-who gets another AB

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 08:15 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Sets Jeter up in the ninth, to succeed or fail.

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 08:18 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Oh, bother.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2014 08:21 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

David Robertson: Accomplice

MFS62 Sep 25 2014 08:24 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Fuck. Later

Ashie62 Sep 25 2014 08:30 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Career walk off RBI lmfao.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 25 2014 08:38 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Lefty Specialist wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: So do you suppose there's some just-hired flunky from Steiner Sports Collectibles whose job it is tonight to follow Jeter around and bag-up for sale the final dump he takes at the YSIII clubhouse bathroom? They'll find nothing. His poos are intangible. However, he makes everyone around him more regular. Derek Jeter doesn't poo. He eliminates food he deems unworthy of being absorbed into his system.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 25 2014 08:47 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Tomorrow morning, Yankees fans wake up and realize that the team's not going to the postseason.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 25 2014 08:55 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I see Verducci penned a "Tribute to the Captain" on SI.com. Part of me wants to read it because I know if will no doubt include "soft rain" types of phrases that will live on in infamy. But I really can't stomach it right now.

Frayed Knot Sep 25 2014 08:59 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Tomorrow morning, Yankees fans wake up and realize that the team's not going to the postseason. I think most of them realized that about 45 mornings ago.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 25 2014 09:21 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Mets’ Matt Harvey spotted at Yankee Stadium for Derek Jeter’s final home game [fimg=755]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1953328.1411694724!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/harvey.jpg[/fimg] Remember that thread JCL started giving odds on the likelihood of each Met eventually signing with the MFY's? Well, I'd bet anything that Harvey's already been fitted for his MFY uniform. He probably poses in it in the privacy of his own home, and it's just a matter of time before Harvey absent-mindedly wears it out in public, or even to a Mets game. Four rows behind the MFY dugout.

SteveJRogers Sep 25 2014 09:27 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Takes a little shine off of Harvey.

Edgy MD Sep 25 2014 09:29 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Yeah, we're on that in the previous page. The problem is the headline. It's not like he was "spotted" like he was laying low. He advertised his presence on social media.

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2014 07:20 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Considering the dog & pony show the Yanx had planned* to put on--Jeter pulled in the middle of the 9th, take laps around the field, all the past teammates meeting him at home plate ... hell, there could have been military fly-overs and phone calls from the President included for all I know--which probably would have delayed Baltimore's arrival in Toronto until about six minutes prior to game time this evening, maybe the way it did end was for the best for everyone, non-DJ fans included. I'd like to think that it serves as a reminder that real sports is better than the manufactured and packaged-for-sale insta-nostalgia shit they've been peddling for the last six months - but I tend to doubt any lessons were learned. (speaking of which, what happened to the ball he hit? I'd like to think the Baltimore catcher kept it). The only surprising part is that they didn't follow through with their plans after Robertson struck out Cruz for the 2nd out, but by then it was down to a one-run lead. * as revealed by Girardi after the game

d'Kong76 Sep 26 2014 07:35 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

This is the only picture I've seen. Is he wearing a Knicks hat?

Edgy MD Sep 26 2014 07:42 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Yeah, Knicks hat.

d'Kong76 Sep 26 2014 07:44 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Well, at least he has a smidgen of sense.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 26 2014 07:53 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

"Couldn't have scripted a better ending..." says MLB Facebook. Except a scriptwriter would have had this happen in the World Series, where the Yankees won't be going this year largely because they've been carrying the deadweight of a shortstop past his prime and his traveling circus all season.

d'Kong76 Sep 26 2014 08:30 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

It was a pretty dramatic ending. Should be in- teresting what the Yank/Sawx fan ratio will be this weekend Seems like everyone is saying they're going to Fenway.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 26 2014 09:25 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Mike and Mike took a few moments out of their non-stop NFL coverage to devote a few minutes to Jeter. Greenie said that if this was a game that counted, the Orioles would have walked Jeter in that situation. I call BS on that. Jeter and his .255 stick and no power or speed is the guy they'd want in the box. The difference is that in a game that counted, A) They wouldn't have grooved him a pitch, or B) there would have been a pinch hitter. Discussion then followed that Jeter should be a unanimous selection to the Hall of Fame. Having recovered from the shock of baseball talk on ESPN radio, I switched stations.

Edgy MD Sep 26 2014 09:33 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

In fairness to His Highness, the guy on deck was hitting .233. Things are tough all over, man.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 26 2014 09:35 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Discussion then followed that Jeter should be a unanimous selection to the Hall of Fame. Having recovered from the shock of baseball talk on ESPN radio, I switched stations. If you hadda bet, would you bet on his unanimous selection? Breaking Seaver's % vote record?

Ceetar Sep 26 2014 09:40 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Evan Meek's average fastball velocity this season was over 90. (91.74 in September) The pitch he threw to Jeter? 86.8.

HahnSolo Sep 26 2014 09:56 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Discussion then followed that Jeter should be a unanimous selection to the Hall of Fame. Having recovered from the shock of baseball talk on ESPN radio, I switched stations. If you hadda bet, would you bet on his unanimous selection? Breaking Seaver's % vote record? Not unanimous. I'd bet on that. He could beat Seaver's percentage, though. I wouldn't take that action. I look at his selection as similar to Cal Ripken's, who got I think 537 of 545 votes; Jeter will probably get all except the "I don't vote for first ballot guys" or 'I don't vote for steroid era guys" votes. Be prepared for months of "Jeter should be the first unanimous HOF selection" articles in about four and a half years.

d'Kong76 Sep 26 2014 10:03 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

There's already 'clamor' for him to be Gretzky'd into the Hall of Fame.

metsmarathon Sep 26 2014 11:48 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

so, why again should i care that a grown ass man spent a free night attending a big event in his home city, which honored a childhood sports idol of his? is he somehow obligated to park his kiester on his couch and tune in to all mets road games on SNY to help boost their ratings? will staying home to watch the game make him a somehow better pitcher next year? i mean, GKR is good, but i don't think they're that good. would it make him a better, stronger person of greater moral character to not be a yankee fan, sure. but that ship has sailed - the damage done.

Edgy MD Sep 26 2014 12:01 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Because.

Mets Guy in Michigan Sep 26 2014 12:14 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Can't figure out why you guys are upset. He was clearly rooting for the Orioles. Plus, he's scouting batters for his return next season.

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2014 01:18 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Mike and Mike took a few moments out of their non-stop NFL coverage to devote a few minutes to Jeter. Greenie said that if this was a game that counted, the Orioles would have walked Jeter in that situation. I call BS on that. Jeter and his .255 stick and no power or speed is the guy they'd want in the box. The difference is that in a game that counted, A) They wouldn't have grooved him a pitch, or B) there would have been a pinch hitter. Discussion then followed that Jeter should be a unanimous selection to the Hall of Fame. Having recovered from the shock of baseball talk on ESPN radio, I switched stations. This is the part about baseball that guys on ESPN (not just Greeny & Golic but virtually everyone empaled there) don't get because they pay so little attention to it unless and until forced to. As a contrast, even as big an MFY fan that Francesa is, the brief ten minutes I caught of him yesterday showed that he gets it. He compared Jeter to Pete Rose. Both a HoF-worthy players who anchored dynastic teams, but neither, he admitted, were the best player on those team most of the time (maybe in a given year they were but not overall) much less in all of baseball. But through a combination of personality, luck, looks, attitude, timing, flash, press adoration, or a host of other factors, they had a 'Star Power' that out-shone their equally talented (or sometimes more) teammates. But since ESPN is built around equating star power with 'Best' it's only natural to them that Jeter is unanimously regarded as the best around and therefore should go into the HoF with the highest pct ever if not unanimously, or even simply by acclaim without bothering with the silly five-year rule that exists for mere mortals. They don't think Jeter's a mere mortal because it doesn't occur to them that the most famous guy ISN'T the best all-around player ever.

Edgy MD Sep 26 2014 01:22 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Frayed Knot wrote: But through a combination of personality, luck, looks, attitude, timing, flash, press adoration, or a host of other factors, they had a 'Star Power' that out-shone their equally talented (or sometimes more) teammates. There's no way Francessa got both those "r's" out.

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2014 05:51 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Edgy MD wrote: There's no way Francessa got both those "r's" out. I was para-spelling what he said. btw, there's a rumor that Harvey left YSII about an hour prior to the end of the game.

Edgy MD Sep 26 2014 06:19 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

And of course, the thing about the Rose angle is that Rose turned out to be an enormous phony. But Rose was a man of brute passion, and Jeter one of careful sophistication, so it's far less likely that he'll be caught with his pants down, as ubiquitous as cameras are now. Can you imagine how soiled Pete Rose's rep might have become had camera phones been around in his time?

d'Kong76 Sep 27 2014 01:20 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Not sure who the FOX announcers are, but they are explaining intangibility NOW!!!

d'Kong76 Sep 27 2014 01:57 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

FOX guy can't decide whether to swallow or spit! OMG!!!

MFS62 Sep 27 2014 08:25 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Jeter left the game after 2 AB, due to "injury" (According to Yahoo sports). So, if he doesn't play tomorrow, that will mean that all those people who paid mucho dinero for tickets for his last series only saw him play part of one game. I'm sad, I tells 'ya, real sad. snicker Later

MFS62 Sep 28 2014 12:09 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

"Jeter's Last" game will be on Turner Broadcasting today. The promo for the game says its "the game everybody has been waiting for". They're right. And some of us have been waiting 20 years. Later

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2014 01:18 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

So Jeter's career ends on an infield single and being pulled for a PR. It was the 507th infield hit for him, some 14.2% of his total (a shade less than 1 in 7) I wonder how that stacks up among those with similar number of hits? Maybe if I get ambitious I might take a stab at researching guys, say with 2,500-plus, although I don't know if that kind of breakdown will exist for some of the old-timers.

MFS62 Sep 28 2014 03:14 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

IIRC, in The Long Season, Brosnan wrote that Rogers Hornsby (his team's hitting coach) told them to "Hit down on the ball. It will scoot through the infield like a scared rabbit". Hornsby hit a lot of homers, but it sounds like if he followed what he taught, he may have had a lot of ground ball hits. BTW - is this hit total official for Jeter? I heard a few weeks ago that the hit with which he set one of his records earlier this year (for shortstops? Moved into sixth place?) was later called an error by the official scorer. But, at least this year is finally over. This must have been what it is like to finally pass a kidney stone. Later

dgwphotography Sep 28 2014 04:27 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

MFS62 wrote: But, at least this year is finally over. This must have been what it is like to finally pass a kidney stone. No. Passing a kidney stone is less painful.

bmfc1 Sep 28 2014 04:48 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

I fear that we will see Jeter throw out the 1st pitch at a WS game. Or at least someone else will see it because I will change the channel.

metirish Sep 28 2014 05:07 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

bmfc1 wrote: I fear that we will see Jeter throw out the 1st pitch at a WS game. Or at least someone else will see it because I will change the channel. ugh, I would not be surprised

Mets – Willets Point Sep 28 2014 05:46 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

metirish wrote: bmfc1 wrote: I fear that we will see Jeter throw out the 1st pitch at a WS game. Or at least someone else will see it because I will change the channel. ugh, I would not be surprised And then he'll spend some time in the booth with the announcers giving him he--, I mean asking him questions about his experience in the postseason.

bmfc1 Sep 28 2014 05:50 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

"Derek, after all the playoff games that you played in, what advice do you have for the players playing in their first post-season?"

MFS62 Sep 28 2014 06:18 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

bmfc1 wrote: "Derek, after all the playoff games that you played in, what advice do you have for the players playing in their first post-season?" Jeter: "Keep the uniform you wear in the game. Think how much you'll be able to sell it for some day. If you want to be a successful whore, let Brandon Steiner be your pimp." Later

d'Kong76 Sep 28 2014 06:21 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Angry fb friends are lashing out. Funny, we don't 'get' it!

Ceetar Sep 28 2014 07:40 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

bmfc1 wrote: I fear that we will see Jeter throw out the 1st pitch at a WS game. Or at least someone else will see it because I will change the channel. Unlikely. I'm sure he's already in St Jetersburg. I read somewhere that he sometimes flies home to Florida on off days. True New Yorker though.

smg58 Sep 29 2014 05:23 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Is anybody else appalled at the complete lack of class in getting a single then taking a curtain call? There was still most of the game to play! I suppose maybe if you had just clinched a betting title or something, but really, who does that shit?

G-Fafif Sep 29 2014 06:08 AM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

smg58 wrote: I suppose maybe if you had just clinched a betting title or something Pete Rose's conduct would be the standard in this particular realm.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 14 2014 09:03 PM Re: RIP Derek Jeter

Hee-hee: http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-sh ... ent-advice