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Sep 23 2014 12:51 PM

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batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 01:04 PM
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Of course the Mets didn't see this coming. Ownership is just as clueless about social media as it is about their fans and the depressing Mets zeitgeist. They can't get out of their own way.

Ceetar
Sep 23 2014 01:05 PM
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Sara Daly Roter
?@sdrotes
#ImAMetsFanBecause of my mother @bjn477

sean T lamb ?@stlamb4 1h
#ImAMetsFanBecause if you're a #NYJets fan it just makes sense.

metsgirl82 ?@metsgirl82 3h
#imametsfanbecause my family goes back to Brooklyn & Queens and the Yankees were NOT an option when the Dodgers left. And we love Mr. Met!

Abigail Gullo ?@NYCBaby 3h
“@MacCocktail @Broethius: #ImAMetsFanBecause I can't help it. Just born with a better soul, I guess.

Simon Harrow ?@simonjh 5h
#ImAMetsFanBecause Some kid at school came back to UK from holiday in NYC with a Mets cap.



what, you're saying Social Media is all a bunch of noise and you can generally find whatever confirmation you want?

1. Mets engaged fans. That's good.
2. Mets promoting Mets pride, which is good.
3. There's the "all press is good press" thing too, which the trolls are only feeding here.

So what's the results?
-bitter mets fans get sarcastic on Twitter, but do that anyway.
-Writers pushing narrative get to play the #lolMets card. fine. they were going to do that anyway.
-a few fans feel genuinely pleased to be engaged by the team they love.

Yup, think this worked out just fine for the Mets.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 23 2014 01:09 PM
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There are nice ones too when, you know, you don't just select the ones that confirm your bias.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 23 2014 01:11 PM
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Or, what Ceetar said.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 01:22 PM
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Most of the bad ones weren't as bad as all that.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 01:23 PM
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I didn't cherry-pick those tweets. I got them from these news articles.


http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/mvt-mos ... s-horribly

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ ... -1.9384020

Okay, maybe the media orgs cherry-picked those tweets. But they're newsworthy. Because the Mets are in a depression. Because the team is bankrupt, financially, and apparently, morally. And because other fan-bases probably wouldn't have generated those snarky tweets in response to a hypothetically similar social media campaign.

d'Kong76
Sep 23 2014 01:23 PM
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Been one since elementary school when the 1973 season cemented
it for me... no bandwagoner in my blood, even when everyone in class
jumped over to the late 70's Yankees.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 23 2014 01:26 PM
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I suspect a fair share of the snarky tweets are from Yankees fans.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 01:27 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Okay, maybe the media orgs cherry-picked those tweets.

Maybe. Or maybe a little past maybe. Definitely, I think.

Probably definitely.

metirish
Sep 23 2014 01:34 PM
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@Vacarro

while #Jeter was idling up 162nd street meeting and greeting and pontificating his flock the @Mets were busy shooting themselves in the foot with a worthless #IMAMetsfanbecause campaign

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 23 2014 01:34 PM
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I added some nice ones because I'm all about sunshine and light.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 01:44 PM
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I just clicked on the hashtag and read through some of the tweets. They were about 100% disparaging. There were three positive tweets, however, and upon further review, I noticed that they were all from the same person.




And there was this, too:

d'Kong76
Sep 23 2014 01:46 PM
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My Mom only gave me blue or orange kool-aid as a
kid ... #true2orgblu

Ceetar
Sep 23 2014 01:49 PM
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metirish wrote:
@Vacarro

while #Jeter was idling up 162nd street meeting and greeting and pontificating his flock the @Mets were busy shooting themselves in the foot with a worthless #IMAMetsfanbecause campaign


is he fucking serious? what a hack. I mean, wow.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 01:55 PM
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batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 01:57 PM
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Ceetar
Sep 23 2014 01:59 PM
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keep cherry picking, doesn't change the point.

seawolf17
Sep 23 2014 02:01 PM
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I just clicked on the hashtag and read through some of the tweets. They were about 100% disparaging. There were three positive tweets, however, and upon further review, I noticed that they were all from the same person.




And there was this, too:


Hey. We know both of those guys.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 02:03 PM
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At this point the campaign itself is the subject of many of the tweets.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 02:04 PM
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batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 02:05 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
At this point the campaign itself is the subject of many of the tweets.


Predictably.

Mets – Willets Point
Sep 23 2014 02:06 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I added some nice ones because I'm all about sunshine and light.


batmagadanleadoff wrote:
There were three positive tweets, however, and upon further review, I noticed that they were all from the same person.


Hmm...I wonder if someone just told you that they were adding positive tweets? Could it be? Nah!

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 02:07 PM
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#IAmAMetsFanBecause CaseyGroteMookieMikey

seawolf17
Sep 23 2014 02:09 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
#IAmAMetsFanBecause CaseyGroteMookieMikey

Speaking of shirts -- wore that one the other day. Whichever of us designed that one should submit that to Darren too.

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 02:10 PM
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I find this to be hilarious. The Mets media cannot be as clueless as we think. It's a button pushing question for a Mets fan. How could they not know that? It's gotta be any PR is good PR thinking. If not,...that would be amazin'.
Amazingly bad.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 02:11 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Mets – Willets Point wrote:
I added some nice ones because I'm all about sunshine and light.


batmagadanleadoff wrote:
There were three positive tweets, however, and upon further review, I noticed that they were all from the same person.


Hmm...I wonder if someone just told you that they were adding positive tweets? Could it be? Nah!


I went to Twitter to see for myself, instead of relying on the cherry-picking done in the tabloids. And I noticed that the tweets were all negative. Except for three from some "LS" tweeter.

I then figured out from seawolf's post that you're LS. Didn't know that until today.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 02:12 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I find this to be hilarious. The Mets media cannot be as clueless as we think. It's a button pushing question for a Mets fan. How could they not know that? It's gotta be any PR is good PR thinking. If not,...that would be amazin'.
Amazingly bad.


It is hilarious and it's getting worse. Apparently, Mike Francesca is reading out loud -- live -- some of the snarkier tweets on his show. Poetry in motion.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 02:14 PM
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I'm reading. I'm not seeing them all negative. Added some myself. Most are a little of both.

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 02:17 PM
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zvon ?@zvon
#imametsfanbecause they provide comedy gold!

Vic Sage
Sep 23 2014 02:17 PM
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"i enjoy the abiding sense of tragedy, which sustains me through temporary periods of joy."

I didn't write this... but i could have.

Ceetar
Sep 23 2014 02:23 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm reading. I'm not seeing them all negative. Added some myself. Most are a little of both.


There are plenty of casual Mets fans that follow @mets but aren't part of "#MetsTwitter" so to speak. So they'll respond genuinely and not troll.

But those articles tabulating and over-representing the snarky tweets has encouraged others to make snarky and negative comments. That's precisely how hashtags generally work.

But that's just noise. Almost all of social media is just noise and a poor representative of anything really. (This goes for the Mets, or for hashtags about fraking, or climate change, or popular domestic violence (both NFL and non-NFL edition) cases..)

It's a cacophony of squeaky wheels and the normal wheels just rolling along thinking "Oh, yeah, I like the Mets. Why? Oh, because my first memories are of watching the '86 series with my family and missing Danger Mouse cause the Astro's game went way long" and not noticing the squeaks.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 02:25 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
I'm reading. I'm not seeing them all negative. Added some myself. Most are a little of both.


There are plenty of casual Mets fans that follow @mets but aren't part of "#MetsTwitter" so to speak. So they'll respond genuinely and not troll.

But those articles tabulating and over-representing the snarky tweets has encouraged others to make snarky and negative comments. That's precisely how hashtags generally work.

But that's just noise. Almost all of social media is just noise and a poor representative of anything really. (This goes for the Mets, or for hashtags about fraking, or climate change, or popular domestic violence (both NFL and non-NFL edition) cases..)

It's a cacophony of squeaky wheels and the normal wheels just rolling along thinking "Oh, yeah, I like the Mets. Why? Oh, because my first memories are of watching the '86 series with my family and missing Danger Mouse cause the Astro's game went way long" and not noticing the squeaks.


You take this so seriously. We know that there are real true blue Mets fans out there. Why, they even show up at Mets games. All 2,500 of them.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 02:28 PM
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You sure seem to be taking it seriously enough.

The unfunny and cowardly and the impotent use the internet to pile on. What else is new?

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 02:31 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
You sure seem to be taking it seriously enough.

The unfunny and cowardly and the impotent use the internet to pile on. What else is new?


Pile on to what .... snarky humor directed at a corporate entity? Are you equating this with the cyber bullying and abuse of a specific individual ... a person?

Vic Sage
Sep 23 2014 02:35 PM
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Well according to the Supreme Court, corporate entities ARE people.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 02:36 PM
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Equating?

It is what it is and I'm saying what I'm saying.

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 02:37 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
Well according to the Supreme Court, corporate entities ARE people.

Ha. Boom!

Ceetar
Sep 23 2014 02:39 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
I'm reading. I'm not seeing them all negative. Added some myself. Most are a little of both.


There are plenty of casual Mets fans that follow @mets but aren't part of "#MetsTwitter" so to speak. So they'll respond genuinely and not troll.

But those articles tabulating and over-representing the snarky tweets has encouraged others to make snarky and negative comments. That's precisely how hashtags generally work.

But that's just noise. Almost all of social media is just noise and a poor representative of anything really. (This goes for the Mets, or for hashtags about fraking, or climate change, or popular domestic violence (both NFL and non-NFL edition) cases..)

It's a cacophony of squeaky wheels and the normal wheels just rolling along thinking "Oh, yeah, I like the Mets. Why? Oh, because my first memories are of watching the '86 series with my family and missing Danger Mouse cause the Astro's game went way long" and not noticing the squeaks.


You take this so seriously. We know that there are real true blue Mets fans out there. Why, they even show up at Mets games. All 2,500 of them.


no. I take very little seriously. But I like the Mets and don't need people unnecessarily piling on just because they want to vent their own personal anger.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 02:41 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
Well according to the Supreme Court, corporate entities ARE people.


I'm waiting for the Supreme Court to rule that people are corporations so I can deduct everything under the sun.

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 02:53 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
Well according to the Supreme Court, corporate entities ARE people.


I'm waiting for the Supreme Court to rule that people are corporations so I can deduct everything under the sun.


He returns the BOOM with a BAM!

Vic Sage
Sep 23 2014 02:54 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
Well according to the Supreme Court, corporate entities ARE people.


I'm waiting for the Supreme Court to rule that people are corporations so I can deduct everything under the sun.


"Incorporation - To cause to merge or combine together into a united whole."


Since people are a merger of various organs, chemicals and biological processes combined together into a united whole, it could be easily argued that people are the result of incorporation and, thus, are themselves corporations. So deduct away! I'll send you a cake with a file in it, when i find out what prison you'll be serving time in.

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 03:04 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
Vic Sage wrote:
Well according to the Supreme Court, corporate entities ARE people.


I'm waiting for the Supreme Court to rule that people are corporations so I can deduct everything under the sun.


"Incorporation - To cause to merge or combine together into a united whole."


Since people are a merger of various organs, chemicals and biological processes combined together into a united whole, it could be easily argued that people are the result of incorporation and, thus, are themselves corporations. So deduct away! I'll send you a cake with a file in it, when i find out what prison you'll be serving time in.

BoomBamBing!

I think that door should swing both ways. I'll defend ya in a court'Olaw, Bats.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 03:11 PM
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batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 03:13 PM
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http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/ ... 69HJ_3.MP3

Pick it up at about the 1:50 mark.

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 03:49 PM
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Oh boy. I just went to Twitter for the 3rd time in my life. This can't be good...

But some of these responses are classic funny. A few nice ones but everyone's trying to be funny now since it got a spotlight.

I don't even know how to enter one. Do I type the backslash bit and then add my comment? Wait....maybe not knowing how to tweet is good. I don't think the world is ready for me.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 04:22 PM
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http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/d6/d9/dH/dJ/169HJ_3.MP3

Pick it up at about the 1:50 mark.

OK, I'll just click right h... wait a minute! Are... you trying to get me to listen to Mike Fucking Francesa?!

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 04:35 PM
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http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d1/d6/d9/dH/dJ/169HJ_3.MP3

Pick it up at about the 1:50 mark.

OK, I'll just click right h... wait a minute! Are... you trying to get me to listen to Mike Fucking Francesa?!


He's actually on some TV channel all afternoon over here in SJ. So you can also see him. Isn't that special?

Ashie62
Sep 23 2014 04:36 PM
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I find it all amusing. Some of these tweets are pretty funny really.

d'Kong76
Sep 23 2014 04:40 PM
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"These are real. I did not concoct these."
Thanks for clearing that up!

I'm a mets fan because rooting for the Yankees is like
rooting for a utility company. #true2orgblu

metirish
Sep 23 2014 05:55 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
metirish wrote:
@Vacarro

while #Jeter was idling up 162nd street meeting and greeting and pontificating his flock the @Mets were busy shooting themselves in the foot with a worthless #IMAMetsfanbecause campaign


is he fucking serious? what a hack. I mean, wow.



I made this up but you could imagine he wrote similar

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2014 06:37 PM
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How do you pontificate a flock?

metirish
Sep 23 2014 06:53 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
How do you pontificate a flock?


It's Jeter, he can do anything

Fman99
Sep 23 2014 07:48 PM
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#ImaMetsfanbecause Yankee fans have tiny dicks

Zvon
Sep 23 2014 08:38 PM
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See, I don't understand this twitter business. How can Twitter hijack a hashtag, and why would they? What does "twitter hijacks it" even mean. They pulled the plug on it?

[url]http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/mets-start-imametsfanbecause-hashtag-twitter-hijacks-it-1.9384020

I wonder who won the tickets. That's the story I wanna hear.

batmagadanleadoff
Sep 23 2014 09:22 PM
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Zvon wrote:
See, I don't understand this twitter business. How can Twitter hijack a hashtag, and why would they? What does "twitter hijacks it" even mean. They pulled the plug on it?

[url]http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/mets-start-imametsfanbecause-hashtag-twitter-hijacks-it-1.9384020

I wonder who won the tickets. That's the story I wanna hear.


I'm no twitter hound, but I think that "hijacking a hashtag" is similar to "hijacking a thread", i.e., to take it in a different direction than originally intended.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Sep 24 2014 09:05 AM
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"Twitter" in "Twitter hijacks it" is more like a metonym (if not EXACTLY like it) than an actual thing, standing for something like "the users of Twitter and the waves of tweets they've sent." Y'know, like in "Twitter is pretty funny on stuff like this, if you don't take it too seriously and/or read-and-digest for too long."

#ImAMetsFanBecause of Doc, skyscraper-tall before they stuck him on a mural.

Zvon
Sep 24 2014 12:29 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:


#ImAMetsFanBecause of Doc, skyscraper-tall before they stuck him on a mural.


That is a great one. One of the best. I hope you sent it.

SteveJRogers
Sep 28 2014 03:28 PM
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#WhyThisKindOfSocialMediaMarketingBlows Not just sports franchises.

Zvon
Sep 28 2014 06:58 PM
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I guess this question involves the media dept.

I can no longer find the section at the Mets official web site that was about team history. Has this been removed?

I hadn't been there for years. I see now there's a page for Shea Stadium History. That's nice. But where did they stick the team history page?

G-Fafif
Sep 28 2014 07:26 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I guess this question involves the media dept.

I can no longer find the section at the Mets official web site that was about team history. Has this been removed?

I hadn't been there for years. I see now there's a page for Shea Stadium History. That's nice. But where did they stick the team history page?


http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/history/index.jsp

Edgy MD
Sep 28 2014 07:53 PM
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#WhyThisKindOfSocialMediaMarketingBlows Not just sports franchises.

Twitter: where unfunny people get a mic and a spotlight.

SteveJRogers
Sep 28 2014 09:02 PM
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#WhyThisKindOfSocialMediaMarketingBlows Not just sports franchises.

Twitter: where unfunny people get a mic and a spotlight.


This is true, but the point is that because of the trolls who "hijack" the hashtag for their own, and followers, amusement and the hope that they get picked up in some agenda driven news article like the one linked to, is pretty much as good of a reason as any for not engaging in such campaigns. Even if the intention, as in the Met one, prize winning driven or in order to create a database of consumer information (here are Twitter handles who did this hashtag, lets tailor some "suggested companies tweets" into their newsfeed or whatever, its a bad idea that can only cause embarrassment to the cause and ridicule by your haters.

Case in point, while the Met one has been floating around Met blogs and forums, that Republican one (off of an internet hack agenda driven "news" (but mostly opinion) driven site that is anti the Tea Party) came from a socialist FB cyber "friend" of mine that clearly loves trolling for both people to argue with him and the "HAHAHAHA THAT IS SO TRUE! THEY ARE SO STUPID" responses from those who agree with him on politics, religion (he's a hardcore "devout" atheist) and social issues (to the point of drudging up years old stories to prove a point about an issue ongoing today).

I mean, yeah I get the idea of not paying attention to that sort of internet trolling, that its as much to get rises out of people and causing flame wars especially if you are something much bigger than they are (sports franchise, a national political party, celebrity, etc), but why give them ammunition, especially if all they really are, are just attention whores on social media platforms. That's what they want, they crave the attention, and you are just feeding into it by making silly social media marketing gimmicks like "hashtag a response to this statement."

Zvon
Sep 28 2014 09:41 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
I guess this question involves the media dept.

I can no longer find the section at the Mets official web site that was about team history. Has this been removed?

I hadn't been there for years. I see now there's a page for Shea Stadium History. That's nice. But where did they stick the team history page?


http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/history/index.jsp


Much thanks.

So it still spells Ray Gotto's name incorrectly. They really should correct that. Thanks to the Mets for years I've been saying Gatto designed the logo. And I get HIM confused with Gallo. Oy!
*slaps forehead

Edgy MD
Sep 29 2014 06:18 AM
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Steve's friend sounds like a real picnic in pants.

SteveJRogers
Nov 13 2014 10:14 AM
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Even more proof to my point that shit like #ImAMetsFanBecause is a dumb idea for anyone or any entity with an ample amount of haters on the interwebs:

[url]http://www.vox.com/2014/11/12/7203269/dr-oz-health-twitter

[url]http://nypost.com/2014/11/10/bill-cosby-twitter-hasthag-meme-immediately-backfired/

And related to the Cosby one:

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2831615/Bill-Cosby-rape-victim-Barbara-Bowman-says-monster-TV-legend-deserves-scorn-humiliation-got-taunted-internet-evil-deeds-meme-request-backfired.html

But sure, keep with your "so what, haters gonna hate" mentality about how the hashtag social media tool should be used.