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"Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 2015

Edgy MD Oct 09 2014 07:34 AM

Jeremy Hefner has elected to return to HSS for admittance in the Double Tommy John Club. TJ surgery big shot Dr. James Andrews will be doing the cutting in place of Dr. David Altchek, who did the honors last time.

MFS62 Oct 09 2014 09:03 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Isn't that like going to the mechanic who didn't completely fix your car the first time you took it to him? Later

Edgy MD Oct 09 2014 09:05 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm not sure I was clear. Dr. Altchek performed the first surgery. Dr. Andrews will be performing this one. Different mechanic, as it were.

Ceetar Oct 09 2014 09:06 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Sometimes, the car is just a lemon. Good luck Hefner.

metsmarathon Oct 09 2014 09:52 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

MFS62 wrote: Isn't that like going to the mechanic who didn't completely fix your car the first time you took it to him? Later it's a little bit more like going back to the same auto body shop after you smacked into a wall again.

Ashie62 Oct 09 2014 11:48 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

MFS62 wrote: Isn't that like going to the mechanic who didn't completely fix your car the first time you took it to him? Later In other words Altchek might have done this on a Friday.

TransMonk Nov 13 2014 10:59 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Parnell not expected to be ready for opener Boo!

TransMonk Feb 24 2015 12:34 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Lucas Duda will be forbidden from swinging a bat for a couple of days after developing a left oblique strain. Evidently, this has been an issue for a couple of weeks. *gulp*

Frayed Knot Feb 24 2015 12:46 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Baseball was much better before players had obliques.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 24 2015 12:52 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

TransMonk wrote: Lucas Duda will be forbidden from swinging a bat for a couple of days after developing a left oblique strain. Evidently, this has been an issue for a couple of weeks. *gulp* Fuk

Edgy MD Feb 24 2015 12:58 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Now we know why the first shots of Cuddyer working out show him wearing a first baseman's glove.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 24 2015 01:04 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Thanks A LOT, Mike Barwis.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 24 2015 01:37 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Yeah! Bring back Mackey Shillstone!

Frayed Knot Feb 24 2015 01:49 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Wasn't it last off-season that Big Luc broke something or other while moving furniture? It's Feb 24th, I'm declaring this to be a non-issue.

TransMonk Mar 04 2015 04:23 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Per Rubin: Lucas Duda (intercostal muscle strain) swung a bat for the first time in three weeks.

G-Fafif Mar 10 2015 07:43 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Josh Edgin in for MRI following elbow and general left arm discomfort following diminished velocity in yesterday's otherwise meaningless game.

Edgy MD Mar 10 2015 08:28 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy sure doesn't shine in the spring, do he? And things are suddenly looking up for Scott Rice.

TransMonk Mar 11 2015 11:48 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Hammy whammy delays Parnell's return Parnell worries me big time in 2015. I'm not sure his health can be relied upon at all.

Centerfield Mar 11 2015 12:16 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgin back to NY to meet with doctors about his elbow discomfort. Paging Dr. Andrews...

Ashie62 Mar 11 2015 12:34 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

More reasons to keep Gee.

Edgy MD Mar 11 2015 12:55 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I agree that Gee is going to be good insurance. But against Edgin, least of all.

Edgy MD Mar 12 2015 09:01 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

A year and a week ago, Anthony DiComo was first (I think) in reporting that Bobby Parnell had a partially torn MCL, and they would make a determination on which way to proceed in the coming weeks. They determined to pitch through it, and then were forced to go another direction after opening day. Today, Anthony DiComo is first (I think) in reporting that Josh Edgin has a stretched MCL, and they will make a determination on which way to proceed in the coming weeks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 12 2015 11:48 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Sounds like rest should be the thing, unless it's more of a 'stretch' than they're saying, youknowwhatI'msayin? #HospitalForSpeciousStories OE: Or, maybe since Tommy John is on the table, this may be a little beyond rest.

Frayed Knot Mar 14 2015 08:07 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Zack Wheeler = "sore" elbow Vic Black = MRI on shoulder Josh Edgin = Getting second opinion from (say it with me people) Dr. James Andrews Wheeler it is said "will not need" an MRI on the hinge (how 'bout getting one anyway?) and is expected to miss just one start (today's). “This is something that he experienced during the course of last season as well, and it was managed,” Alderson said. “That is what is expected this season.” (Puma - NY Post)

Ceetar Mar 14 2015 12:39 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Wheeler got the MRI in...January? So they really don't think there's anything more to see.

TransMonk Mar 14 2015 04:39 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

On second thought... http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... -after-all

Frayed Knot Mar 14 2015 05:12 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Black's MRI wrote: No structural damage.

Edgy MD Mar 15 2015 06:24 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Wheeler went for the MRI after all. Clean as heck, according to Terry. That boy is going to start glowing in the dark.

TransMonk Mar 15 2015 09:38 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Josh Edgin to have elbow surgery Ugh.

Centerfield Mar 15 2015 08:24 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

No word on the results of the Wheeler MRI?

G-Fafif Mar 19 2015 12:49 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Right hamstring ouchie pulls Murph from game in Jupiter. Perhaps it was a gravity issue.

G-Fafif Mar 19 2015 02:46 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Vic Black's rehab pushed back, but he's fine (notify his next of kin). http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... ts+Twitter

Ashie62 Mar 20 2015 09:49 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Murphy may go on DL leaving Reynolds/Muno to open/per Rotoworld

Ashie62 Mar 21 2015 06:51 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

No concern for Muffy?

Edgy MD Mar 21 2015 07:33 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm not ready to believe it's going to break that way until it breaks that way.

G-Fafif Mar 22 2015 04:03 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Wilmer in a walking boot after foul ball off the foot. Going for x-ray. Enough with the "ouchies" already.

Edgy MD Mar 22 2015 05:00 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

If that x-ray shows any fractures, the trainer is going to look pretty bad, because Wilmer stayed in the game and put pressure on that foot trying to leg out an infield hit.

Frayed Knot Mar 22 2015 10:34 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

X-rays [u:2z0dy8vq]negative[/u:2z0dy8vq] on Wilmer's tootsies Walking boot for "a day or two", then take it from there.

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2015 05:20 PM Medical updates

... acc to Eddie C. - Murphy: Probably ready for OD. Will likely be kept to minor league games when he's ready to play again so that they can back-date him longer in case they need to go that route - Flores: Much better today and more likely for OD. Could be back playing as early as this weekend - Black: Throwing off flat ground but nothing more. Almost certainly will NOT make the OD roster - Parnell: Mid-April at the earliest - Duda: Feels fine but needs more reps because of his late start.

Zvon Apr 06 2015 08:05 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/100343/jenrry-mejia-elbow-injury-on-opening-day-leaves-pen-void

Ashie62 Apr 06 2015 08:12 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Alludes to MCL tear of right elbow.

Centerfield Apr 06 2015 09:25 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Sounds like Mejia is done for the year and they all know it. We can just alternate Mejia and Parnell for the next few years I guess.

Nymr83 Apr 06 2015 09:53 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

that was fast. bullpen may become a concern, anyone want to reach out to Rafael Soriano's agents?

Frayed Knot Apr 06 2015 10:35 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Centerfield wrote: Sounds like Mejia is done for the year and they all know it. Where is this info coming from?

Centerfield Apr 07 2015 08:32 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

No hard facts to base this on, but there are a few things that suggest TJ surgery *Bones reaction and quotes in the Rubin article. Probably the most damning. *You don't run out of the bullpen and to the trainer unless something is pretty bad. *Mejia somber mood after the game. *"Going to NY to have MRI and see Dr. Altcheck" is never a good thing. *Cheapass Mets probably get a discount if they get three TJ surgery in a month

Ashie62 Apr 07 2015 12:53 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Mejia, inflamation and no structural damage. [url]http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/mlb/baseball

dgwphotography Apr 07 2015 01:48 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ashie62 wrote: Mejia, inflamation and no structural damage. [url]http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/mlb/baseball After Wheeler last year, I don't believe this one bit.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2015 01:56 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Life is indeed fraught with ambiguity, but it's certainly better news than the alternative.

Ashie62 Apr 07 2015 01:56 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

This was Puma on Twitter fwiw. He does say a cortisone shot was given. I am going to assume a 15 day rest is in order also.

Frayed Knot Apr 07 2015 01:57 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Rubin: Closer Jenrry Mejia was diagnosed with inflammation and received a cortisone injection in his right elbow, but an MRI taken Tuesday in New York did not reveal any tears. Mejia was examined by team doctor David Altchek at the Hospital for Special Surgery a day after experiencing pain in his right elbow. He was unable to enter for the ninth inning on Opening Day at Nationals Park. It is not yet clear whether Mejia will be placed on the disabled list. The Mets are off Tuesday and have a little time to make a determination. Regardless, pitchers generally must remain idle for at least 48 hours after receiving a cortisone injection. So Jeurys Familia should be closing for at least the remainder of the series against the Washington Nationals. Mejia underwent Tommy John surgery in 2011.

Centerfield Apr 07 2015 02:25 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

That's about as good a news as one could have hoped for. Get better Jenrry.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2015 02:37 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Last pitched April 3, so since he never entered yesterday's game, I imagine any DL assignment can be backdated until then.

Ceetar Apr 07 2015 02:41 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Last pitched April 3, so since he never entered yesterday's game, I imagine any DL assignment can be backdated until then. says April 5th on the Mets Twitter. Goeddel.

Lefty Specialist Apr 07 2015 02:42 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Danger, Will Robinson! Met players and management have a tendency to minimize injuries until just before the limb detatches from the body.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2015 02:52 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

It's hard to accept that the team is hiding medical information, the doctors are supporting them in that decision, and Mejia and his representatives are either complicit or duped. Pitching is tough on elbows. A guy is OK to pitch until he isn't.

d'Kong76 Apr 07 2015 07:42 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

To the DL... Mets placed RHP Jenrry Mejia on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to April 5, with posterior inflammation in his right elbow. Mejia underwent X-ray and MRI tests Tuesday morning that showed no structural damage, but he was given a cortisone shot and will be shut down from game action for at least the next 10 days. Jeurys Familia figures to get the bulk of the save opportunities during his absence and should be picked up in all fantasy leagues. -- NBCSports

Frayed Knot Apr 07 2015 07:45 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Kong76 wrote: Mets placed RHP Jenrry Mejia on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to April 5, with posterior inflammation in his right elbow. I've had posterior inflammation before ... but it never had anything to do with my elbow.

Edgy MD Apr 07 2015 08:08 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Kong76 wrote: To the DL... Mets placed RHP Jenrry Mejia on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to April 5, with posterior inflammation in his right elbow. Mejia underwent X-ray and MRI tests Tuesday morning that showed no structural damage, but he was given a cortisone shot and will be shut down from game action for at least the next 10 days. Jeurys Familia figures to get the bulk of the save opportunities during his absence and should be picked up in all fantasy leagues. -- NBCSports Fantasy-league advice insinuating itself into sports journalism makes me sad.

d'Kong76 Apr 07 2015 08:12 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Well it's actually Rotoworld, powered by NBCSports

Edgy MD Apr 08 2015 07:27 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

For everyone thinking that Familia was a better choice to finish games anyway, now they have a pretext for using him as such.

Ceetar Apr 08 2015 09:23 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Also depending on the timing, they have an easy way to just hand the job to Parnell without creating too much drama.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2015 02:38 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

According to Will Carroll, BBWAA member and author of Saving the Pitcher and The Carroll Guide to Sports Injuries, “With each pitch, Mejia is likely ‘slamming the elbow,’ as pitching coaches and doctors describe it,”. As his arm extends with the pitch, the bones of the upper and forearm are either actually contacting or putting severe stress on the connective structures.” He goes on to argue that Jenrry needs to alter his delivery or face a repeat of the same problem later on. “Mejia’s injury is one that recurs and apparently has, so while he’s worth keeping an eye on, this injury has likely taken significant value from him,” Carroll concludes and that with proper rehab he's on a path for a late April/early May return. Carroll was at one time with, I think it was, Baseball Prospectus where he ran the injury beat -- this is from 'Fan Duel Insider', essentially a fantasy tout sheet although that alone doesn't make it inaccurate. But I seem to recall him seeming a little too sure of what was often guesswork on his part being passed of as if insider info. Fantasy players of course are looking for every edge they can get (particularly as these one-day competitions become more popular) and so are liable towards swallowing up this sort of thing as if carved in stone the same way NFL fans listen to any pre-game "analysis" that they think will tilt their Sunday bets in the right direction. So take all this for what it is.

Edgy MD Apr 08 2015 03:06 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

The phrase "taken significant value from him," seems so heartless, in that it suggest the injury isn't to the person but to the asset. And then reading your afterword, it further seems that he's writing about Mejia not as a person or as an asset, but as a doubly abstract fantasy asset.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2015 03:17 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I traded some email with Carroll for an assignment supposedly in his wheelhouse once and the impression he left was that he was a huge cack sitting atop Mt. Knowitall.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2015 03:48 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: The phrase "taken significant value from him," seems so heartless, in that it suggest the injury isn't to the person but to the asset. And then reading your afterword, it further seems that he's writing about Mejia not as a person or as an asset, but as a doubly abstract fantasy asset. Like I said, he may be writing as the go-to medical guy but he's doing so for a fantasy outlet -- and not just an outlet that caters to fantasy players but one that's in business specifically to SELL fantasy games -- so that kind of language may be disturbing but it's not unexpected. Assets are the way ones thinks about players when they're betting on them on a day to day basis.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2015 05:21 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Adam Rubin wrote: Alderson said estimates for the lengths of d'Arnaud's and Blevins' absences will not be available until both players are examined by hand specialists Monday at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan.

G-Fafif Apr 19 2015 05:47 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

1972. I hope not.

Edgy MD Apr 19 2015 05:50 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

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Frayed Knot Apr 19 2015 06:00 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

So is Jenrry Mejia playing the part of Thomas Eagleton in this little drama?

Rockin' Doc Apr 19 2015 07:00 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

This thread is already too long. So many injuries this early in the season.

G-Fafif Apr 19 2015 08:15 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Frayed Knot wrote: So is Jenrry Mejia playing the part of Thomas Eagleton in this little drama? I'm a thousand percent behind Senator d'Arnaud.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2015 02:19 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Injury news not so bad: Travis 3 weeks in a splint then if healed can begin bb activities. Blevins 6 weeks in a splint.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2015 02:41 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Injury news not so bad: Travis 3 weeks in a splint then if healed can begin bb activities. Blevins 6 weeks in a splint. So realistically guesstimating: Td'A = June 1st; JB = July 1st

Edgy MD Apr 20 2015 02:41 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Both surprisingly optimistic. I can imagine what a healing hand fracture feels like every time you hit a vibrating shot off the handle or the end of the bat. <<SHUDDER>> So I imagine three weeks will be a bit longer before he's contributing at 100%. I'd guess six weeks until he's back in the lineup, and nine before he's himself again.

Ceetar Apr 20 2015 02:47 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Both surprisingly optimistic. I can imagine what a healing hand fracture feels like every time you hit a vibrating shot off the handle or the end of the bat. <<SHUDDER>> So I imagine three weeks will be a bit longer before he's contributing at 100%. I'd guess six weeks until he's back in the lineup, and nine before he's himself again. At least it's not his left hand. 99mph Matt Harvey fastballs pounding the glove over and over.

Edgy MD Apr 20 2015 03:34 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Agreed.

Zvon Apr 20 2015 04:54 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Vic Black = herniated disc.

Zvon Apr 20 2015 11:21 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Hate to bother u guyz w/this but it's my last recourse. I started this thing, Operation Wright, to display the areas that Dave's been injured. I started it in early February and then put it aside. My intention was to use it before the season but never did. After Wrights hammy pull I dug it out with the idea of possibly using it to track any injuries Wright will suffer this season (along with the original concept). I know this sounds jinxey but if there are going to be more injuries, we better to be able to have a little fun with it. 'Lil bit. So here's my dilemma. As I was drawing this up I was researching Wrights career injuries from a bunch of on-line sources. I put in where the injury was and a line pointing to it. But I didn't fill in the info about the injury. So when I rebooted the work I started filling in the injury info and I have one left over. I must have seen he had an injury in his neck or on his chin, but I have no recollection of where I got the info. I did look at the places I was researching from in Feb., but I didn't find anything. Then I looked everywhere I could. Nothing. There's a possibility that I had a joke in mind, but I think I would remember that if I did. So did Wright have neck spasms or something? Anyone know of any injury to him in that area?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2015 11:47 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Neck stiffness, with a little recurrence last year.

Zvon Apr 21 2015 03:57 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Neck stiffness, with a little recurrence last year. Thanks LWFS. I guess I considered that serious.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2015 03:45 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Breaking: Matt Harvey has been pitching through a "foot issue." Off for an examination.

TransMonk Apr 22 2015 03:49 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Fug. Fingers crossed.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 22 2015 03:59 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I hope he doesn't have to miss the rest of the season for Barry Foote surgery.

MFS62 Apr 22 2015 10:20 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I hope he doesn't have to miss the rest of the season for Barry Foote surgery. I shudder when I hear of pitchers with foot problems. IIRC, Dizzy Dean altered his throwing motion to relieve pain on a broken foot (toe?) and permanently injured his arm. Later

Benjamin Grimm Apr 23 2015 07:33 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

It was a broken toe. I think Dizzy took a line drive off his toe in an All-Star game. I wouldn't be too alarmed by injuries that occurred eighty years ago. Now, I think they'd know not to let a pitcher take the mound until his toe was fully healed. What happened to Ol' Diz isn't likely to happen again.

Edgy MD Apr 23 2015 09:23 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I wouldn't be too alarmed by injuries that occurred eighty years ago. Well put. Dean's injury is like Willie Mays' final year in that people tend to take it as more illustrative of... something... than it really is.

MFS62 Apr 23 2015 10:02 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Didn't say it would happen again, or that its illustrative of anything. But like Merkle's boner, Ruth's called shot and Mickey Owen dropping the third strike, it is part of baseball lore that is still remembered. Later

Edgy MD Apr 23 2015 10:05 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I shudder when I hear of somebody getting a boner.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2015 11:01 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

MFS62 wrote: But like Merkle's boner, Ruth's called shot and Mickey Owen dropping the third strike, it is part of baseball lore that is still remembered. And maybe even partially true.

Ashie62 Apr 23 2015 12:23 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 24 2015 06:35 PM

Harvey has a mildly sprained ankle and does not intends to miss the MFY's per the Post.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 24 2015 11:55 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

So THAT's why Recker has provided okay-if-no-great-shakes-defense while giving us nothing on the offensive front. #JohnnyMonellIsTheBumOnMYBench Rubinesque wrote: New York Mets backup catcher Anthony Recker has been diagnosed with a bone spur in the back of his right elbow, the team announced Wednesday. Recker will continue to play with the issue, including getting a start Thursday against the Atlanta Braves. He may have the spur removed at the end of the season, although Recker suspects that may not even be necessary. "I think we’ll kind of just wait until the end of the year and see what it looks like then,” Recker said. “But, for now, I’m not worried about it.” It's okay, though, as we've already put in an order for one warm body (about whom the one notable thing seems to be a last name that sounds like an internet-slang gerund) to the Minnesota warehouse.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 24 2015 12:14 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Rohlfing? Isn't that Craig Swan's new career?

TransMonk Apr 24 2015 04:15 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Bobby Parnell shut down with forearm soreness Oh, Bobby.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 24 2015 04:22 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I dread seeing this thread pop to the top. Hopefully this forearm soreness isn't anything, but it very well might be.

Edgy MD Apr 26 2015 03:08 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Adam Wainwright also dreads seeing this thread pop up, as he hits the DL with an achilles injury trying trying to explode out of the batter's box.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2015 02:54 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Montero = MRI on shoulder

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2015 03:38 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm so tempted to lock this thread so that it can't receive any additional posts.

Ashie62 Apr 29 2015 04:39 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Montero = MRI on shoulder Enter Noah and or Matz.

Ceetar Apr 29 2015 04:44 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ashie62 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Montero = MRI on shoulder Enter Noah and or Matz. those guys are in the same rotation as Montero, so were it to be a problem, they're not replacements.

Ashie62 Apr 29 2015 04:52 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

If Plawecki proved himself quickly I might ship d'Arnaud to the AL for an arm.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2015 06:23 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

That arm better be attached to Chris Sale. d'Arnaud was the team's best hitter when he went down.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2015 08:45 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ashie62 wrote: If Plawecki proved himself quickly I might ship d'Arnaud to the AL for an arm. 1) Only for an AL arm? Are there no NL arms you want? 2) Can we wait until Plawecki has 2 weeks in the majors and say gets his BA over .200 before we start declaring d'Arnaud to be yesterday's news?

Edgy MD Apr 30 2015 07:31 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Rafael Montero taking a detour on his way back to Las Vegas to get his shoulder checked out in New York.

Edgy MD Apr 30 2015 10:50 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Brandon Nimmo. Knee. I'm a load o' bad news this morning, ain't I?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 30 2015 10:56 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Brandon Nimmo. Knee. I'm a load o' bad news this morning, ain't I? Well if it's any consolation you were badly scooped on the Montero news (click back a page). In other news, Beatman Mike Vorkunov apparently injured his tying fingers While Ricco the severity, or if it's worrisome at all, is unknown, a Mets official said that it was nothing serious and that Nimmo had no issue walking afterward to the team bus.

Edgy MD Apr 30 2015 02:34 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm thrilled to hear the guy can walk to the bus under his own power?

Ceetar Apr 30 2015 04:32 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Rafael Montero taking a detour on his way back to Las Vegas to get his shoulder checked out in New York. his optional assignment rescinded and he's on the 15 day DL. here's your conspiracy theory. They started him in the majors. They sent him down but with a definitive date in mind to be recalled. They needed to send him back down for various reasons, but the mandatory 10 day demotion would've triggered his option year. (20 days total needed) Instead he's on the DL, which saves his option temporarily, gives them time to trade Gee or stumble into an empty rotation spot another way, and gives them 30 or so days of minor league 'rehab' time to have Montero start games in the minors before they'd need to recall him or officially option him to AAA.

MFS62 Apr 30 2015 04:38 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 05 2015 10:20 PM

Ceetar wrote: here's your conspiracy theory. They started him in the majors. They sent him down but with a definitive date in mind to be recalled. They needed to send him back down for various reasons, but the mandatory 10 day demotion would've triggered his option year. (20 days total needed) Instead he's on the DL, which saves his option temporarily, gives them time to trade Gee or stumble into an empty rotation spot another way, and gives them 30 or so days of minor league 'rehab' time to have Montero start games in the minors before they'd need to recall him or officially option him to AAA. And they can monitor his progress in those minor league games from the grassy knoll. Later

Ceetar May 05 2015 10:32 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

duan May 05 2015 10:52 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Wow. Ambriorix Burgos. There's a gun-toting crazy man I'd forgotten all about.

Edgy MD May 05 2015 10:56 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I wonder what date he's eligible to reinstated to society. I'm never going to forget about that guy. Most hateful Met ever, and — even apart from that — an avatar for all Omar Minaya transactions ever.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 05 2015 11:56 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Was it the gun with him? Didn't he, like, run over his wife and another lady? And Matt Wise-- there's a forgettable Mettable.

Ashie62 May 05 2015 08:25 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Pedro Martinez claims Jeff Wilpon made him pitch through injury in 2005. [url][/http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25175445/pedro-martinez-says-mets-boss-wilpon-made-him-pitch-through-injuryurl]

Benjamin Grimm May 08 2015 11:43 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Newsday wrote: David Wright's injured hamstring is "doing very well," the Mets said in a statement Friday. But the rest of that sentence about the Mets' captain and third baseman included this: "in the last few days, he has experience some lower back pain." advertisement | advertise on newsday Wright underwent an MRI at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan, and no structural damage was discovered. The Mets said Wright will resume baseball activities when the discomfort in his back lessens. Wright injured his hamstring in an April 14 game against the Phillies trying to steal second base in the eighth inning. He was placed on the 15-day disabled list the following day.

Frayed Knot May 12 2015 07:21 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Updates from the Puma: * Carlyle - has had a sore hamstring but now adds "back spasms" to the mix after covering 1B last night. It's why Goeddel got the 8th inning after Buddy's final out in the 7th. Apparently, on this team anyway, hamstring problems lead to back problems. * d'Arnaud - cleared for baseball activities (except for hitting) and went down to PSL (with Gee) to workout. May begin hitting within a week and then go on a rehab assignment * Wright - receiving treatment but no activity yet. No schedule for return but "not in the next week" says John Ricco * Parnell - allowed 3 runs in an inning at PSL, having trouble with fastball command (described as 90-92) and is "bouncing breaking pitches" ... but other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?

dgwphotography May 12 2015 08:15 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Frayed Knot wrote: * Carlyle - has had a sore hamstring but now adds "back spasms" to the mix after covering 1B last night. It's why Goeddel got the 8th inning after Buddy's final out in the 7th. Apparently, on this team anyway, hamstring problems lead to back problems. Makes me wonder if it was a sciatic problem that Carlyle thought was a hamstring problem...

Frayed Knot May 12 2015 08:25 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Sciatica! Sciatica!! [fimg=400:wbnz9wp2]http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-01/51887798.jpg[/fimg:wbnz9wp2]

Ashie62 May 12 2015 10:31 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I am pegging Wright for the All Star break.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 12 2015 11:34 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ashie62 wrote: I am pegging Wright for the All Star break. "Um... thanks, but no thanks. I'm married."

Benjamin Grimm May 12 2015 06:49 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

CHICAGO (AP) Mets center fielder Juan Lagares has a slight strain on his upper right side and has been ruled out for New York's game at the Chicago Cubs. Lagares, who won a Gold Glove last season, has been playing with the injury for about a week, but was held out Tuesday night when it got worse. New York manager Terry Collins says he also might sit out on Wednesday. Collins says the injury is ''somewhere underneath his right armpit, probably caused by the diving catch he made in New York last week.'' Lagares, who had played in all 32 games before Tuesday, had an MRI earlier in the day to rule out anything serious.

Edgy MD May 15 2015 07:50 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Strangers have apparently come and fractured Dilson's finger. Campbell, Reynolds, Muno, Tovar, or possibly Castellanos. Go fish.

d'Kong76 May 15 2015 07:51 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Dilson to the 15-day DL... what's next?

d'Kong76 May 15 2015 07:52 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Slick postin'!

Zvon May 15 2015 07:54 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Reynolds already

themetfairy May 15 2015 07:58 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Kong76 wrote: Dilson to the 15-day DL... what's next? Never, and I mean NEVER, ask that question.

Edgy MD May 15 2015 08:03 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

For what it's worth, Campbell has destroyed opposing pitching in the 15 games since he went down: .440 / .569 / .820 // 1.389.

Edgy MD May 15 2015 08:12 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Campy time.

d'Kong76 May 15 2015 08:21 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

themetfairy wrote: Never, and I mean NEVER, ask that question. I take back the question... I'll just quietly wonder it to myself!

Benjamin Grimm May 16 2015 07:03 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Kong76 wrote: Dilson to the 15-day DL... what's next? And the answer is, a knee injury to Brandon Nimmo. Binghamton Press and Sun-Bulletin wrote: Binghamton Mets infielder Brandon Nimmo's left Friday night's game with a knee injury in the ninth inning. Nimmo, who Baseball America ranks as the third-best prospect in the Mets farm system and 45-th best prospect in the minors, was the first batter in the inning. He beat out an infield chopper, but went down in a heap after crossing the base. It appeared Nimmo's left foot may have slid off the bag and caused him to twist his knee while running through the base. He got to his feet initially, but could not put weight on his left leg. Nimmo fell back down on his way to the dugout, and had to be helped by teammates down the dugout steps and into the clubhouse. After the game, Nimmo got examined by the B-Mets team doctor, but it is very possible that the Mets have him get examined by their doctors in New York City. Nimmo remained in the trainer's room after the game and was not at his locker.

Centerfield May 16 2015 09:58 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Falling in a heap usually means ACL tear. See you in 2016 Brandon Nimmo. In other news, David Wright set to resume baseball activities on Monday. No word yet on when the active roster will resume baseball activities.

d'Kong76 May 18 2015 01:54 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

How does one resume baseball activities without swinging a bat?

Edgy MD May 18 2015 02:05 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

It's almost like a setup for an Airplane! joke. [list]Doctor: Everything checks out! It looks like I can clear you to begin resuming baseball activities! Ballplayer: Great! <> <> <> Feels good to get the juices flowing again![/list:u] Wright, of course, would start by wiping his nose on shirt.

Benjamin Grimm May 18 2015 02:36 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Kong76 wrote: How does one resume baseball activities without swinging a bat? I guess running, throwing, fielding ground balls...

d'Kong76 May 18 2015 03:36 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Well... I know that! It's just typical Mets nonsense to me though, David Wright's gonna this and he's gonna do that for seemingly the last week and now he's resumed baseball activities. Oh, but he can't (or won't) be swinging a bat quite yet.

Centerfield May 19 2015 08:29 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Did they give us a timeframe for Dilson and Nimmo?

TransMonk May 19 2015 08:31 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Centerfield wrote: Falling in a heap usually means ACL tear. Sprained ACL, per Rubin. No timetable yet...he'll resume baseball activities when he is pain free.

TransMonk May 19 2015 11:07 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Centerfield wrote: Did they give us a timeframe for Dilson...? Per Mets.com yesterday: Another set of X-rays confirmed the break in Dilson Herrera's right middle finger. He will be re-examined in three weeks.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 04:34 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

CBS in reporting that David may be back to the Mets in about 10 days. That makes me happy.

Ashie62 May 23 2015 04:57 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Oh well, is David just plain shot?

metsmarathon May 23 2015 06:36 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Well. Fuck.

Rockin' Doc May 23 2015 11:29 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Kong76 wrote: Well... I know that! It's just typical Mets nonsense to me though, David Wright's gonna this and he's gonna do that for seemingly the last week and now he's resumed baseball activities. Oh, but he can't (or won't) be swinging a bat quite yet. Well, I believe the Mets should just go ahead and activate Wright. He should fit right in with the rest of the roster. It appears they can't swing a bat either.

Ashie62 May 24 2015 11:44 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

An article on Matt Harvey having a dead arm. [url][/http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/25194792/mets-pitcher-matt-harvey-may-be-dealing-with-dead-armurl]

TransMonk May 31 2015 10:02 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

If Parnell's career as we once knew it were on the table in the ER, how long would it be before Clooney looked up at the clock and pronounced it dead? Adam Rubin wrote: Working on a second straight night for the first time since undergoing Tommy John surgery in April 2014, rehabbing Bobby Parnell allowed five runs on five hits and two walks while recording only one out. Seven straight batters reached before he was pulled.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 31 2015 10:07 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I hope the best for them but Bobby Parnell and/or Vic Black are about the least vital returning pieces to this team. Conceiveably bigger jolts could come from the return of Blevins and dare I say it, Mejia, both around 7/1. Apparently it is OK to warm Mejia up in the minors and have him ready to go the day his suspension ends. Would not have thought he'd beat back Black, Parnell or Wright but he might all 3.

Mets Guy in Michigan May 31 2015 11:20 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Best case scenario for Parnell is that there is a long recovery from TJ surgery. But what does that project for Wheeler for next season? Should be not expect him until the All-Star break?

Ashie62 May 31 2015 12:57 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I saw Wright had two epidural shots for his back. I would think Molly is extolling the virtues of being able to walk in middle age.

Benjamin Grimm May 31 2015 01:00 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Best case scenario for Parnell is that there is a long recovery from TJ surgery. But what does that project for Wheeler for next season? Should be not expect him until the All-Star break? The current estimate is June 2016, so the All-Star break is certainly a possibility.

Edgy MD May 31 2015 04:06 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I wouldn't conclude too much about one case based on another single case, however.

Edgy MD Jun 01 2015 08:17 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Dillon Gee to be activated and get Wednesday's start @San Diego, where Nettles is expected to get him, bottom of the ninth.

d'Kong76 Jun 05 2015 03:26 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Murphy 15 day'd... Muno recalled... per the twitterboids...

Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2015 03:49 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Murphy and Curtis Granderson are the only Mets who had played in every game so far this season.

Ashie62 Jun 05 2015 04:56 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Citifield was built on an Indian burial ground.

Frayed Knot Jun 05 2015 05:51 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Murphy: .409/.458/.568 over the last two weeks; .358/.408/.495 over the last four Ahhh it's OK, we were scoring too many runs on this team anyway. On the positive side, d'Arnaud & Herrera are playing rehab games.

Edgy MD Jun 12 2015 01:31 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

"Severely clogged sinuses." Plawecki has been suffering from "severely clogged sinuses." He needs strangers to come and cut his snot out.

Ceetar Jun 12 2015 01:40 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: "Severely clogged sinuses." Plawecki has been suffering from "severely clogged sinuses." He needs strangers to come and cut his snot out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 12 2015 03:06 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Goeddel is on the DL with elbow strain and Muno is back. With Gee back in the rotation, we're down 2 bullpenners tonight! He didn't look comfy on the bump last night.

Edgy MD Jun 15 2015 02:21 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Alderman Sandy told the press today that Wright "could" be back by the All Star break. That's a serious divergence from prior reports that he "could" miss the season, but I guess he resets the optimistic outlook.

Ceetar Jun 15 2015 02:24 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Alderman Sandy told the press today that Wright "could" be back by the All Star break. That's a serious divergence from prior reports that he "could" miss the season, but I guess he resets the optimistic outlook. really all he said is that it's realistic to look at the ASB as a realistic possibility of Wright's return. So you know, nothing new.

Lefty Specialist Jun 15 2015 02:33 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

ASB 2016, probably.

Edgy MD Jun 15 2015 02:41 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ceetar wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Alderman Sandy told the press today that Wright "could" be back by the All Star break. That's a serious divergence from prior reports that he "could" miss the season, but I guess he resets the optimistic outlook. really all he said is that it's realistic to look at the ASB as a realistic possibility of Wright's return. So you know, nothing new. This clarifies what I wrote how?

Ceetar Jun 15 2015 02:45 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

you seem to imply this is an 'update'. It's not an update, it's doubletalk and as such does not diverge from prior reports.

Edgy MD Jun 15 2015 02:53 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

So, it clarifies it not at all.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 15 2015 03:40 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

"Could be back by the All-Star break" and "Could miss the rest of the season" aren't contradictory statements. It just means that there's a best case and a worst case.

Edgy MD Jun 15 2015 03:42 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I certainly didn't mean to suggest a contradiction, only a diverging report. [fimg=400:2nc75inq]http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/59135290.jpg[/fimg:2nc75inq]

Ceetar Jun 16 2015 08:52 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: I certainly didn't mean to suggest a contradiction, only a diverging report. And all I meant to suggest is this isn't a change from the "it's a week to week process" that we've understood it to be for a time now. Despite not really saying anything though, if Wright's not back in July Alderson's gonna get criticized for it.

Edgy MD Jun 16 2015 08:59 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Last word.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 18 2015 09:43 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Adam Rubin wrote: General manager Sandy Alderson said the Mets are now eyeing Tuesday's series opener at Milwaukee for Murphy's return.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 18 2015 09:46 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Muff will have to go to 3rd base and make Ruben a pinch hitter again.

Ceetar Jun 18 2015 10:38 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Muff will have to go to 3rd base and make Ruben a pinch hitter again. With hopefully a few spot starts around the diamond. with Tejada back on the bench and Mayberry and Cecilliani hitting, the bench is suddenly an asset again.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2015 08:47 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

X-rays on the e'Lbaud for d'Arnaud

Frayed Knot Jun 22 2015 08:33 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Murphy will require some rehab starts and therefore will NOT be reactivated on Tuesday for the Milwaukee series as previously rumored. Probably looking at next weekend at this point.

Edgy MD Jun 22 2015 09:03 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

So much for the "We can't put Tejada at short and Flores at third because what do we do when Murphy comes back?" reasoning.

Ashie62 Jun 23 2015 06:07 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Arnaud on the DL, Johnny Monell up.

Zvon Jun 23 2015 06:08 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

oh shit

Edgy MD Jun 26 2015 10:39 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Murphcakes started at third base and went 4-5 for the St. Lucie Mets in their 9-3 win over Bradenton. I'm guessing one more game and he takes over at third to back Matz on Sunday.

d'Kong76 Jun 26 2015 10:45 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Good news

themetfairy Jul 09 2015 07:01 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Shit! Steven Matz To Miss Several Weeks With A Lateral Strain

RealityChuck Jul 09 2015 07:16 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

There goes our offense.

Ashie62 Jul 09 2015 07:23 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

The Amazin Amazin Amazin Mets.

Edgy MD Jul 09 2015 07:27 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Bring on Logan Verrett!!

Ashie62 Jul 09 2015 07:33 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Return to the five man rotation please! Matz tore his muscle. Yikes.

Edgy MD Jul 09 2015 07:36 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Who is reporting a tear?

d'Kong76 Jul 09 2015 07:42 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

No one is reporting that. I think such statements should be backed up by a link or a quote or not made at all. Jeez, Louise.

themetfairy Jul 09 2015 07:47 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

It's a partial tear....

Ashie62 Jul 09 2015 07:53 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

The return of Dillon Gee?

d'Kong76 Jul 09 2015 08:04 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

themetfairy wrote: It's a partial tear.... Thank you!

d'Kong76 Jul 09 2015 08:09 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I looked at Rotoworld (also NBC) and at 8:24 they said team had not confirmed, tmf's link update is 8:26, and then RotoWorld at 8:31 said it was confirmed... dizzying.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 09 2015 08:13 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

At least he still has his index finger.

themetfairy Jul 09 2015 08:18 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Benjamin Grimm wrote: At least he still has his index finger. As far as we know.... (And don't ask me why, but I'm totally cracking up over this - thanks.)

MFS62 Jul 09 2015 08:20 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Where is Montero, and what is the timetable for his return? Still out? Rehabbing? Please tell us some good news. Later

G-Fafif Jul 09 2015 08:22 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

On the flip side, that case of pennant fever from April appears to be in remission.

Edgy MD Jul 09 2015 08:34 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Montero, long-tossing with bullpen scheduled next. Surgery is scheduled for Saturday.

Gwreck Jul 09 2015 09:18 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Given the Mets' history with these things and absent proof of life, I presume we never see Matz walk this earth again.

d'Kong76 Jul 09 2015 10:17 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Hopefully he won't become the answer to some trivia question that no kid will be able to answer thirty years from now.

Fman99 Jul 10 2015 04:45 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Fuck.

Chad Ochoseis Jul 10 2015 05:07 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Damn Wilpons.

Lefty Specialist Jul 10 2015 06:15 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

This is why we're not allowed to have nice things.

MFS62 Jul 10 2015 07:10 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Megdal will tell us that if it weren't for the Bernie Madoff scam, the Wilpons would have had enough money to afford the diagnostic equipment that could have spotted this before it became serious. Later

seawolf17 Jul 10 2015 08:14 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Lefty Specialist wrote: This is why we're not allowed to have nice things. This. I can't even.

MFS62 Jul 10 2015 08:22 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

In case you didn't read about it, Logan Verrett pitched five shutout innings in a start for Las Vegas last night. Just saying. Later

Edgy MD Jul 10 2015 08:39 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm rooting for him.

Gwreck Jul 10 2015 08:43 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

MFS62 wrote: Megdal will tell us that if it weren't for the Bernie Madoff scam, the Wilpons would have had enough money to afford the diagnostic equipment that could have spotted this before it became serious. Tough to complain about Megdal having an agenda if posts here are going to have a preemptive agenda against him. There's so much to discuss regarding the Mets' injury problems that don't involve proper nouns beginning with "M." (Aside from "Matz")

MFS62 Jul 10 2015 08:54 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Gwreck wrote: Tough to complain about Megdal having an agenda if posts here are going to have a preemptive agenda against him. No it isn't. He actually makes it very easy. Later

Ashie62 Jul 10 2015 12:03 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Gwreck wrote: Given the Mets' history with these things and absent proof of life, I presume we never see Matz walk this earth again. Same feeling here.

TransMonk Jul 10 2015 12:08 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Bummer for Matz as he made quite the splash in his first couple of starts and seemed to be rolling. I'm hoping he isn't as fragile in the future as his injury history may suggest. The timing is not great either if the Mets are thinking of moving Niese before the deadline. They could go back to a 5 man rotation or call Gee back up if Niese is dealt. I know Verrett is accumulating a lot of fans based on his small sample size of success over the past few weeks, but I'm not sure I'd rely on him too much as a sixth starter.

Edgy MD Jul 10 2015 12:19 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm a Verrett fan because he finished last season ahead of both Syndergaard and Matz, and while they were coming strong and were perhaps likely to pass him soon enough anyhow, he got waylaid on his Rule V odyssey while they finished up their minor league grind. The good news — such as it is — is that the nature of six man rotations suggests that the team shouldn't have to rely on anybody too much.

TransMonk Jul 10 2015 03:39 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

From ManGamesLost.com thru Metsblog: http://www.mangameslost.com/mlb-disable ... y-7-2015/#

d'Kong76 Jul 10 2015 04:42 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

NYM looks kinda lonely with all that empty real estate around it.

Gwreck Jul 11 2015 09:47 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

The Mets' Misfortune? It's Not All About Bad Luck. http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mets-mi ... 1436553430

Edgy MD Jul 11 2015 10:03 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I read that. It's not particularly fair.

d'Kong76 Jul 11 2015 10:04 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

And now, of course, they 'knew' Matz was hurtin' and let him pitch anyways... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/11/sport ... ports&_r=0

d'Kong76 Jul 11 2015 10:05 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: I read that. It's not particularly fair. It's typical of that slant on the Mets... but a lot of it is true.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2015 10:17 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

A lot of it IS true, but it nonetheless isn't particularly fair or honest.

d'Kong76 Jul 11 2015 12:24 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Having trouble with the honesty part, I'll go back when I can. We're not the target audience for this stuff whether it be a clueless of the cluelesslest of bloggers or in an international news outlet.

Ashie62 Jul 11 2015 05:05 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I just want David to not retire.

Gwreck Jul 11 2015 10:55 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: I read that. It's not particularly fair. I read, at a minimum, two good, not-at-all-unfair points: 1. Good teams overcome injuries; 2. The Mets have done a poor job in securing depth for their team.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2015 11:06 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

1. Some good teams do a good job overcoming injuries. Some — by luck or by some elusive skill — never to have to do confront that. The Mets' two championship teams, for instance, suffered very little in terms of injuries. Between them, the main injury was to Bruce Berenyi. So, no, it isn't particularly true to suggest that good teams, by definition, overcome injuries. 2. I disagree that the 2015 Mets have not built depth to overcome injuries (or "done a poor job to secure depth for their team"). They haven't particularly done well at all in simultaneously replacing David Wright, Daniel Murphy, and Travis d'Arnaud, but they've shown themselves to be dazzlingly prepared to endure injuries (and suspensions) to Zack Wheeler, Josh Edgin, Bobby Parnell, Vic Black, Jenrry Mejia, Jerry Blevins, Buddy Carlyle, Erik Goeddel, and Steven Matz. And the Mets are a good team. Sixth-best team in the league as of this morning.

d'Kong76 Jul 11 2015 11:14 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Did you have a prepared statement!

MFS62 Jul 12 2015 08:58 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Kong76 wrote: Did you have a prepared statement! He let his people write it. He just edited it. And they did a darn good job, too. Well said. Later

Frayed Knot Jul 12 2015 09:41 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 13 2015 08:43 AM

Gwreck wrote: The Mets' Misfortune? It's Not All About Bad Luck. http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mets-mi ... 1436553430 See here's the problem with all the 'they couldn't survive the injuries cuz they didn't have a backup plan' stuff: it's that it's easy to say after the backup plan that they did have suxx to high heavens. I mean if it was somehow knowable that Mayberry, Nieuwenhuis (at least before today), Campbell, Herrera, Recker (and Monell for that matter) were all destined to hit under .200 and have an OPS right around 100 or so points below their career levels then, yeah, you're not going to be able to overcome injuries so easily. Now take the Nats -- who that piece implies were better prepared despite being less injured and just 2 games ahead 90+ games into the season. They're getting by the injuries to Zimmerman & Rendon with Danny Espinosa and 30 y/o rookie Clint Robinson. Espinosa was a sub-.200 hitter for the last two seasons (over 500 PAs) but is hitting .258 this year with an OPS 200 points above 2013-14. And Robinson, a 30 y/o in his 4th organization w/just 14 ML ABs prior to this season since getting drafted in the 25th round 8 years ago, is hitting a lot better than Zimmerman was when he went out. All of which is good for Washington but, given the odds of those two working out as well as they did, was that really better planning or just better luck?

MFS62 Jul 13 2015 08:40 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

In the post game interview, Terry said that Wright was resuming baseball activities, but gave no specifics. Later

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2015 08:44 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

MFS62 wrote: In the post game interview, Terry said that Wright was resuming baseball activities, but gave no specifics. X-Box

MFS62 Jul 13 2015 09:02 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Frayed Knot wrote: In the post game interview, Terry said that Wright was resuming baseball activities, but gave no specifics. X-Box It was "baseball related" so you might be right. http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ ... 1.10634620 Later

Edgy MD Jul 13 2015 10:44 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Buddy Carlyle, meanwhile, appears to have had hip surgery and seems to be done for the season.

Centerfield Jul 13 2015 11:00 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm thinking that the thread title has sunk us this year. Maybe we consider starting a "Recoveries in 2015 Thread"?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2015 07:46 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Hmmm... that has me wondering... maybe if we lock this thread, the injuries will stop?

Centerfield Jul 14 2015 09:51 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

This is as good a plan as any I have heard this year. BG for GM.

Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 10:47 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Don't lock it up yet! Reports coming out that Rafael Montero is making his first rehab appearance in the Gulf Coast League! OK, lock it now.

MFS62 Jul 16 2015 08:30 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Travis ready to start rehab soon. http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mets ... int-071515 That elbow bandage made him look like he was trying out for Roller Derby. (Couldn't find a pic) Later

Edgy MD Jul 19 2015 09:18 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Michael Cuddyer may be DL bound, according to Adam Rubin. The injury is a bone bruise, and tends to worsen as games progress. He's started only six games in July thus far. I guess the most likely internal option right now looks like Travis Tajeiron. Whoever it is — unless it's Dillon Gee, Rafael Montero, Dario Avarez, Vic Black, Jack Leathersich, Akeel Morris, Scott Rice, Logan Verrett, Travis d'Arnaud, Anthony Recker, or Zach Lutz — would be Met #1000.

Fman99 Jul 19 2015 09:33 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

We can replace Cuddyer's "production" with a mannequin. Preferably a hot one that wants to bang Andrew McCarthy in a department store run by Estelle Getty.

Edgy MD Jul 19 2015 09:37 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Strangely, though, he hit against St. Louis. Hottest Met over the last seven games, to the extent one can measure heat in the arctic.

MFS62 Jul 20 2015 07:36 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Michael Cuddyer may be DL bound, according to Adam Rubin. The injury is a bone bruise, and tends to worsen as games progress. He's started only six games in July thus far. I guess the most likely internal option right now looks like Travis Tajeiron. Whoever it is — unless it's Dillon Gee, Rafael Montero, Dario Avarez, Vic Black, Jack Leathersich, Akeel Morris, Scott Rice, Logan Verrett, Travis d'Arnaud, Anthony Recker, or Zach Lutz — would be Met #1000. They're going to activate Cesar Puello from the 60 day DL and he's going to hit .290/ .338/ .510 for the rest of the year and lead the Mets to a World Series Championship. Baseball is a funny game. Later

Lefty Specialist Jul 20 2015 07:50 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm guessing they wanted to hide the seriousness of Cuddy's injury so that they wouldn't look so desperate if they went shopping for an outfielder. Because, you know, other teams are easily fooled. I've been back and forth on this, but screw it. Bring up Conforto for a 15-day trial.

Edgy MD Jul 20 2015 08:30 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I'm guessing that they're planning on getting an outfielder, but they knew the market wasn't meeting them yet. So they decided to get what they could out of Cuddyer over the last two gimpy weeks.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2015 12:25 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Lefty Specialist wrote: I'm guessing they wanted to hide the seriousness of Cuddy's injury so that they wouldn't look so desperate if they went shopping for an outfielder. Because, you know, other teams are easily fooled. I've been back and forth on this, but screw it. Bring up Conforto for a 15-day trial. This this this!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 23 2015 10:43 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Looks like the Chipotle Rocket may be headed for elbow surgery.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2015 02:32 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

That may drive the Mets into the LOOGy market in the next week, then. Sort of surprised we haven't seen Rice or Below.

themetfairy Jul 26 2015 09:37 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Travis d'Arnaud had two hits while playing DH in today's rehab start with the B-Mets against Trenton. He looks like he should be back in New York soon.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 27 2015 07:57 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Is it me, or does it seem like teams are using longer and longer rehab periods for guys on the DL? Is seems like there used to be a game or two in the minors, then back in the majors. I read this week that the team wants Travis to get 20 to 25 ABs before coming back. That's four or five games, seemingly adding about a week to his already long DL stint.

Ceetar Jul 27 2015 08:06 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Is it me, or does it seem like teams are using longer and longer rehab periods for guys on the DL? Is seems like there used to be a game or two in the minors, then back in the majors. I read this week that the team wants Travis to get 20 to 25 ABs before coming back. That's four or five games, seemingly adding about a week to his already long DL stint. well, that was the MO with Travis last time too. I think it's specific to his age and position in his case. I remember Wright rushing through like 2 rehab games a couple of years ago. There's probably something to be said for getting your timing down against lesser pitchers.

Edgy MD Jul 27 2015 08:22 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I imagine a longer rehab period correlates with a longer DL stint. And obviously, with d'Arnaud, there's getting your timing back at the plate, but there's also getting physically and mentally prepared to catch nine innings in July. And then do it again the next day. Similarly, starting pitchers tend to get a little longer time on the farm than relievers, so's'n' they can go multiple innings upon their returns.

Frayed Knot Jul 27 2015 10:20 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

d'Arnaud hit (1-3) and caught 7 innings at Bingo tonight and should be on track for the Nats series this weekend.

Edgy MD Aug 06 2015 07:26 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Cuddy due back on Friday. Speculation says that Conforto goes down, but all my sense says it should be Campbell. Apart from the everybody-hates-him factor, it keeps the lefty/righty balance, and Campbell's not getting infield appearances anymore. He's limited to leftfield cameos against lefties and very limited walk-ons at first. That's pretty much what Cuddy will be looking at, no?

MFS62 Aug 06 2015 07:32 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Yes. But there you go, trying to be logical again. We should have learned by now that these kinds of things sometimes defy logic. Campbell has proven harder to get rid of than a condo in Florida. He still might last this one out until the rosters expand in September. Later

Gwreck Aug 06 2015 01:17 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Jerry Blevins fell down, re-fractured his arm, out for year.

MFS62 Aug 06 2015 01:19 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Gwreck wrote: Jerry Blevins fell down, re-fractured his arm, out for year. I'm checking my calendar. Is it April 1? Nope. I guess its not the punch line to an April Fools joke. Shitfuck. Later

Edgy MD Aug 06 2015 01:30 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Fell off a curb Monday night.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 06 2015 01:30 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Unreal.

Centerfield Aug 06 2015 01:38 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

WE SHOULD HAVE LOCKED THIS THREAD.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 06 2015 01:38 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Cuddy due back on Friday. Speculation says that Conforto goes down, but all my sense says it should be Campbell. Apart from the everybody-hates-him factor, it keeps the lefty/righty balance, and Campbell's not getting infield appearances anymore. He's limited to leftfield cameos against lefties and very limited walk-ons at first. That's pretty much what Cuddy will be looking at, no? Yeah, and I'm of the mind that Campy has finally turned a corner. More interesting will be who goes when Wright returns, assuming* everything else remains the same. I suppose they would demote Flores although it could come down to Muffy/Johnson! *-Wood, knocked Edgy MD wrote: Fell off a curb Monday night. You must have left out "Got shitfaced, then..." Or maybe "fell off a curb" is a euphamism for "bar fight?"

Frayed Knot Aug 06 2015 01:50 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 06 2015 02:32 PM

I remember when the (NHL) Rangers' Brian Leech screwed up his ankle in a curb-related incident, but at least then it was winter and it was icy so there was a partial excuse.

Edgy MD Aug 06 2015 01:50 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

What self-respecting hockey player would use ice as an excuse? John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Cuddy due back on Friday. Speculation says that Conforto goes down, but all my sense says it should be Campbell. Apart from the everybody-hates-him factor, it keeps the lefty/righty balance, and Campbell's not getting infield appearances anymore. He's limited to leftfield cameos against lefties and very limited walk-ons at first. That's pretty much what Cuddy will be looking at, no? Yeah, and I'm of the mind that Campy has finally turned a corner. More interesting will be who goes when Wright returns, assuming* everything else remains the same. I suppose they would demote Flores although it could come down to Muffy/Johnson! *-Wood, knocked Edgy MD wrote: Fell off a curb Monday night. You must have left out "Got shitfaced, then..." Or maybe "fell off a curb" is a euphamism for "bar fight?" With regard to the curb, I was going to go with something along the lines of "It's unclear whether he hit the curb going out or coming in, or if he continued to party on like a champ." Total David Wells of an injury. I'm sure TMZ will have an eyewitness account within the hour possibly with grainy cellphone video. With regard to Wright, I'm guessing there won't be more than a week or so to go before rosters expand at that point, so it's probably not a big whoop. It'll be whoever has options (Conforto!), or whoever falls off a curb between now and then (smart money? Murphy!).

Benjamin Grimm Aug 06 2015 02:22 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

We should have assigned somebody to walk in front of Jerry Blevins to make sure there were no banana peels in his path.

Edgy MD Aug 06 2015 02:46 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Steve Gelbs wrote: The New York Mets today announced that lefthanded pitcher Jerry Blevins will likely undergo surgery in Boston next week on the distal radius bone in his left arm. The bone was originally fractured by a line drive during a game at Citi Field on April 19. Blevins had recently resumed throwing, but on Monday evening, August 3, he slipped while stepping off a curb and re-fractured the same bone. It is unlikely that Blevins will return to play with the Mets this season.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2015 01:27 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Jerry Blevins still, somehow, aiming to come back in 2015. It's amazin' how athletes maintain such lofty and seemingly unrealistic goals, but I guess it's the sort of crazy ambition that gets them started in the morning.

dgwphotography Aug 17 2015 04:43 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Uh oh.. https://twitter.com/AdamRubinESPN/statu ... 2322480128 Adam Rubin wrote: Rafael Montero had an issue during Sunday's rehab appearance and is not going to be back with the #Mets anytime soon, in any capacity.

Edgy MD Aug 17 2015 04:53 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

And then Twitter users assume he's got character and "head" issues.

Zvon Aug 17 2015 05:17 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

So he gets to say that without any details as to what or why?

Edgy MD Aug 17 2015 06:07 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

He does!

Ceetar Aug 17 2015 09:38 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Zvon wrote: So he gets to say that without any details as to what or why? Sports Journalism 101, best way to get page views for your morning post.

MFS62 Aug 17 2015 10:21 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

First Puello, now this. It hasn't been a good year for my adoptees. Later

Edgy MD Aug 17 2015 10:33 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

He was probably #6 on the depth chart for opening day, 2016. Now he seemingly falls back to the pack with Verrett, Gabriel Ynoa, possibly Sean Gilmartin, and others. And that's assuming whatever complications we're talking about won't interfere with opening day 2016. Big if. For this season, well, it definitely leads me to take Tim Stauffer a lot more seriously.

dgwphotography Aug 18 2015 08:28 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writi ... t-setback/ I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here?

Ceetar Aug 18 2015 08:51 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

dgwphotography wrote: http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writing-off-rafael-montero-after-latest-setback/ I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here? The Mets kept finding nothing wrong with John Maine to the point of calling him a liar, turned out they needed to do a different type of MRI and he'd been injured all along.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2015 08:56 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ceetar wrote: http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writing-off-rafael-montero-after-latest-setback/ I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here? The Mets kept finding nothing wrong with John Maine to the point of calling him a liar, turned out they needed to do a different type of MRI and he'd been injured all along. That's not an accurate description of what happened. The club suspected he was hurting, but Maine repeatedly denied it.

Ceetar Aug 18 2015 09:00 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: http://nypost.com/2015/08/17/mets-writing-off-rafael-montero-after-latest-setback/ I keep reading how the Mets find nothing structurally wrong, he's still complaining of discomfort, and fans (and some management) are questioning his head. Am I the only one reminded of J.R. Richard here? The Mets kept finding nothing wrong with John Maine to the point of calling him a liar, turned out they needed to do a different type of MRI and he'd been injured all along. That's not an accurate description of what happened. The club suspected he was hurting, but Maine repeatedly denied it. he DID have (at least) two tests that found nothing. He did the opposite of what Montero did, in that he ignored it because otherwise you get speeches from your manager about manning up.

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 09:14 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Again, what you describe is the opposite of what happened. You describe Maine complaining that he was hurting and the Mets calling him a liar, and Maine being vindicated when it turned out he was hurt. What actually happened is that Maine "manned up" voluntarily insisting he wasn't hurting when his coaches and manager observed that he seemed to be. When they (responsibly) removed him quickly from the game, the word liar was used by his pitching coach as sort of a manly complement, if a frustrated one, as he insisted that Maine should have been honest. It's the manager and pitching coach who turned out to be vindicated.

Ceetar Aug 18 2015 09:40 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

no, actually, what happened is exactly as I describe, there was an injury that was discovered medically after repeated attempts to pitch. I'm suggesting that just because what the Mets have looked at so far doesn't show an obvious injury, doesn't mean there isn't one and that that's a much more logical hypothesis than he's a headcase. I cited one example. It happens all the time though, in non-sports situations as well. Doctors miss things, the human body is complicated. One person's minor hip injury is another's degenerative hip condition.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2015 09:46 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

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Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 10:17 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ceetar wrote: no, actually, what happened is exactly as I describe, there was an injury that was discovered medically after repeated attempts to pitch. Which describes most injuries. It's not clear how repeated the attempts to pitch were. What is clear is that he was grinding against the reality of the injury at his insistence, not at the management's insistence. Difference = Large. Dan Fuckin' Warthan: "If he's throwing that way, then there's got to be something incorrect in that arm," Warthen said. "Something's not feeling correct. John's a habitual liar in a lot of ways as far as his own health. He's a competitor and a warrior. He wants to go out there and pitch. But we have to be smart enough to realize this guy isn't right, the ball's not coming out of his hand correctly." Completely vindicated. John Fuckin' Maine: "No, I didn't get a chance, and I think that's what I'm most upset about," he said. "They said they saw something, so they're taking me out. I'm a little hurt by that. It wasn't 100 m.p.h. the first pitch. I never got asked to really see how I was or anything like that. They just said I was out. That's what upset me the most." In denial. And Ceetar: The Mets kept finding nothing wrong with John Maine to the point of calling him a liar, turned out they needed to do a different type of MRI and he'd been injured all along. In denial.

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 10:24 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

In short, what we're talking about here is a player apparently (the story isn't yet clear) arguing that he's injured when the team cannot currently find anything. And the accusation that the team (in the person of the manager) is going to force him to "man up." What you describe is a player arguing that he's well, when the team insists he's injured. And him insisting on manning up against the wishes of his manager and pitching coach.

Ceetar Aug 18 2015 10:27 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

nope, and again this isn't really about Maine, who they'd already run tests on and found nothing. He'd struggled all season. There was plenty of chatter about removing him from the rotation as it was. The doctors and tests said he was healthy and he's at risk of losing his job. Whether or not he was actually feeling pain/soreness/whatever (which there is no way the Mets weren't aware of, given trainers and treatments and what not) is really irrelevant. He was going to go out there and pitch. It's a totally different thing than a guy already shut down and in rehab. (and that's STILL on management. You either shut him down if you think something's wrong to the point of no velocity in warm-ups/earlier, or you give him more than a batter to hang himself with) You're only talking about the point where the discussion came to a head, forgetting that there were months of fits and starts in regards to Maine's performance and arm that night. That lack of a plan was part of why Manuel's the worst Mets manager I've ever watched. He managed that night like John Maine's condition was a total surprise and yanked him with basically no plans beside "get him out of here" . I wouldn't be surprised of Warthan said he shouldn't go and was overruled. His comment might very well have been a cover for that.

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 10:38 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ceetar wrote: nope That's an argument? Ceetar wrote: and again this isn't really about Maine, Again? This is the first time you've made that claim. And you're the one who brought him up. If you have a larger point that his case doesn't support, you perhaps shouldn't bring him up. If his case does not support your larger point, your larger point is undermined. who they'd already run tests on and found nothing. He's been injured on and off for years at this point. He'd had a bone spur removed a year and a half earlier that was described by surgeons as the largest they'd ever extracted. They'd found plenty. Enough. Your example hurts your argument. You are still in there pitching it and you need to be removed from the game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2015 10:51 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ceetar Aug 18 2015 10:53 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

no, it doesn't, you just choose to argue a different point. Guy who had had tests as recently as the offseason and or a few months ago is struggling to pitch. Is he a headcase or is there something that's not showing up. Just so we're clear, if I'm wrong, you're saying Montero's mostly a headcase here and not hurt?

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 11:02 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

I make no claims of Montero's condition one way or the other, but really, how can we possibly be clear?

themetfairy Aug 18 2015 12:01 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Adam Rubin tweets that Bobby Parnell is headed for the DL. Logan Verrett wins the race to reclaim Number 35.

TransMonk Aug 18 2015 12:17 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 12:19 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Hard reporting from Mike Puma says that the Mets effectively put the screws to Parnell, telling him it was DFA, DL, or PCL, his choice.

Lefty Specialist Aug 18 2015 12:30 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Damn, sounds like they're serious. Glad Verrett's coming back, but that couldn't have been fun for Bobby Pee.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2015 12:36 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Are you allowed to strong-arm someone to the disabled list? That sounds kind of hinky to me. Does an injured player have to approve his assignment to the DL? And an uninjured player, of course, shouldn't be on the DL at all.

TransMonk Aug 18 2015 12:40 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Yeah, it seems as if they are stretching the rules. "Elbow fatigue" is the official injury...though it appears "ineffectiveness" would be a better diagnosis. I'm not sure what the Mets were expecting from Parnell since his rehab appearances were very similar to what he was able to do in the majors.

d'Kong76 Aug 18 2015 12:40 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Yeah, I'm surprised at the wording of all that. Maybe it's just exaggerated a little bit to add some bite to it all...

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 12:55 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

TransMonk wrote: Yeah, it seems as if they are stretching the rules. "Elbow fatigue" is the official injury...though it appears "ineffectiveness" would be a better diagnosis. I'm not sure what the Mets were expecting from Parnell since his rehab appearances were very similar to what he was able to do in the majors. Well, let us keep in mind that he performed over his first 13 appearances, putting up 0.73 ERA, walking four and striking out eight in 12 1/3 innings. It's only over the last 10 appearances that things have gone hinky-shaped, walking eight and striking out two in 7 innings, while posting a 14.10 ERA. That's about as hinky as they come. It's hideous hinky.

Ashie62 Aug 18 2015 01:16 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Hideous Hinky is pitching for the Orioles tonight.

Frayed Knot Aug 18 2015 01:51 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

The fact that they're giving Parnell options (albeit not Good ones) means they can claim that they're not really strong-arming him to the DL. But the DL route virtually assures him to be back by Sept 1st (as long as the "injury" is healed by that point of course) where the demotion or cut options don't. Plus he accrues ML service time while out as opposed to not via the others (although it looks like he's already got his 6+ for FA over the winter).

Mets Guy in Michigan Aug 18 2015 02:29 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Has Puma, or anyone else, actually sourced this strong arm claim?

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 02:32 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

"According to an industry source..." That may not seem like much to you, but when your name is Mike F. Puma, you make the rules yourself with your own bare hands.

Mets Guy in Michigan Aug 18 2015 04:09 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: "According to an industry source..." That may not seem like much to you, but when your name is Mike F. Puma, you make the rules yourself with your own bare hands. Exactly! Who in the hell is an "industry source" and how the hell would he know? Imagine if he A) Asked Parnell, or B) Asked Terry or Sandy?

Ashie62 Aug 18 2015 07:01 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

The CPF is an industry source.

Frayed Knot Aug 18 2015 09:39 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Ashie62 wrote: The CPF is an industry source. The CPF is a world-wide source. Wright slated to return Monday in Philly.

MFS62 Aug 18 2015 10:41 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

The fact that they're giving Parnell options (albeit not Good ones) means they can claim that they're not really strong-arming him to the DL. But the DL route virtually assures him to be back by Sept 1st (as long as the "injury" is healed by that point of course) where the demotion or cut options don't. Plus he accrues ML service time while out as opposed to not via the others (although it looks like he's already got his 6+ for FA over the winter). I can just hear the conversation now: Sandy: We're putting you on the disabled list. Parnell: Why? Sandy: Broken arm. Parnell: I don't have a broken arm. Sandy: It can be arranged. Fred still knows people in Brooklyn. Parnell: OK. I'll go on the DL. Later

Edgy MD Aug 18 2015 10:51 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Edgy MD wrote: "According to an industry source..." That may not seem like much to you, but when your name is Mike F. Puma, you make the rules yourself with your own bare hands. Exactly! Who in the hell is an "industry source" and how the hell would he know? Imagine if he A) Asked Parnell, or B) Asked Terry or Sandy? The thing is, unnamed sources in themselves aren't bad things. But there is supposed to be a standard. Something like having independent confirmation from a second source. And yeah, a basic part of the job is to call the principles — Parnell, his agent, Alderson — if only to get a no-comment, which you would print as such. I mean, you have a story alleging that the Mets are gaining an advantage by breaking — or at least circumventing — the rules. Honor your own scoop and do the full job, Mike. But congrats on the scoop. EAT IT, RUBIN!

Edgy MD Aug 22 2015 12:27 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Lucas Duda's back reportedly seized up, necessitating his removal from this evening's game. Mets allegedly plan to give him tomorrow off and re-evaluate him Sunday. But needing another pitcher might force their hand.

Edgy MD Aug 26 2015 07:19 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Six skerless for Matz pitching for Bingo. One hit, no walks, and six strikeouts. Working on a 60-pitch limit, he somehow managed to pull off those six innings in 56 pitches, an average of 9.33 per inning. Of those 56, 41 (73.21%) went for strikes. Mets haven't decided if he's to get one more start in the minors or return to join the Flushing Nine.

Frayed Knot Aug 26 2015 07:52 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

How many hits? Not given up, how many did HE have? I expect nothing less than 2

Edgy MD Aug 26 2015 08:57 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Sorry. They played DH rules. Wimps.

Edgy MD Sep 01 2015 12:00 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Steven Matz threw for Binghamton yesterday, going 5.1 innings, giving up 1 hit, 0 runs, walking 2 and striking out 4. He left with a 2-0 lead but his Bingo-pen blew that up for him and they lost 6-2. He's un-scored upon in 15 innings during his rehabilitation. I'm guessing he's done with that noise. On the other hand, the Mets may want him to join Las Vegas for the playoffs.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 01 2015 12:12 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Anthony McCarron in the Daily News today says that Matz may start for the Mets in Miami this weekend. They want to take today to gauge his recovery from yesterday's start.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2015 12:26 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

So, I'm guessing that Murphy sits out the Miami games and Cuddy is our first baseman. Maybe Campbell gets a start against Brad Hand. Maybe he bats cleanup!

Lefty Specialist Sep 03 2015 02:03 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: So, I'm guessing that Murphy sits out the Miami games and Cuddy is our first baseman. Maybe Campbell gets a start against Brad Hand. Maybe he bats cleanup! Yeah, because Terry wants to see if he can 'get him going'. :) Campbell's days of batting cleanup are SO over. He's just here to be a body you throw into blowouts or to pinch-hit in the 18th inning.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2015 02:26 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

That's what Terry wants you to think! Talk to me Saturday. Eric Young or Eric Campbell will be in the lineup.

MFS62 Sep 03 2015 08:06 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 01 2015 02:21 PM

I would hope that seeing Campbell batting cleanup is as likely as seeing Miley Cyrus starring in Mary Poppins. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 01 2015 02:02 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Uribe and his boob booboo are not getting better.

Edgy MD Oct 01 2015 04:28 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Mike Vorkunov writes weird.

TransMonk Nov 05 2015 11:27 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Granderson has surgery on thumb Metsblog wrote: Mets OF Curtis Granderson had surgery on Tuesday to repair a torn ligament in his left thumb but will be ready for Spring Training, the team announced (Nov. 5). Granderson suffered the injury during the NLCS against the Cubs. In the World Series against the Royals, Granderson went 5-for-20 with three home runs and five RBI. Granderson, 34, is under contract through 2017.

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2015 11:34 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 05 2015 03:19 PM

Shoulda torn Duda's ligament, too.

cooby classic Nov 05 2015 02:35 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Edgy MD wrote: Mike Vorkunov writes weird. Geez, yeah

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 08 2015 02:52 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Wilmer fractured his ankle on HBP in Winter Ball. Mets optimistic he'll be ready for ST.

Edgy MD Dec 08 2015 03:12 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

Whoah. We have two shortstops with a total of two healthy feet between them.

dgwphotography Dec 08 2015 03:21 PM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

In other news, Chase Utley, in an effort to make himself more valuable, has been spotted working on his pitching in Winter Ball.

MFS62 Dec 09 2015 09:17 AM Re: "Strangers come and cut your heart out": Injuries in 201

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wilmer fractured his ankle on HBP in Winter Ball. Mets optimistic he'll be ready for ST. We can rebuild him. We can make him better. Later