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Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

G-Fafif Oct 23 2014 11:36 AM

Juan a finalist, alongside Denard Span and Billy Hamilton, for NL CF GG. Three nominees. Only one choice. [youtube]gSq8ZBdSxNU[/youtube] [youtube]GPjhHcLpfr4[/youtube] [youtube]PSbj2Mx2By8[/youtube]

Frayed Knot Oct 23 2014 11:51 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

The award is 75 percent based on input from NL managers and coaches and 25 percent based on defensive metrics. -- although which metrics and who determines them makes a difference. As many as seven personnel per team may vote for the award, but voters are prohibited from selecting someone from their own team. -- are bat boys included in those seven? Seems like a bit of an odd method to me. Plus, it's still a bit unclear as to whether the finalists are determined by the vote or whether some other method narrowed it down to three at each position and then the voting process whittles it down from there.

Edgy MD Oct 23 2014 12:22 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

But we do know that Eric Young was a nominee last year, but not Lagares. So as far I'm concerned, the process is unimpeachable.

d'Kong76 Oct 23 2014 12:43 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

I just voted on G-F's link and Lagares is winning the reader poll with 95% of the vote... landslide!

MFS62 Oct 23 2014 01:46 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

d'Kong76 wrote: I just voted on G-F's link and Lagares is winning the reader poll with 95% of the vote... landslide! But it is a reader poll on ESPN New York. I wonder how the vote is going in the cities where the other two candidates play. (The 4 % not voting for Legares must be MFY fans (or folks who have never watched him play). Later

Frayed Knot Oct 23 2014 01:56 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Span is quite good defensively and had a better year offensively - something which shouldn't matter but most think it does. I didn't see enough of Hamilton to make a fair judgement but in small doses he didn't seem to me to be an outstanding OK gloveman, more just a good one who happened to be ridiculously fast and therefore able to out-run his own mistakes and seemingly the ball itself at times. Lagares is the lone Mets finalist at his position. What, no Murphy?!?

MFS62 Oct 23 2014 02:24 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Frayed Knot wrote: What, no Murphy?!? Combining this comment with those made about the World Series TV announcers in another thread, Harold Reynolds must have a high Q Rating among both network executives and people who voted for the Gold Glove. Murphy made fewer errors at second base this year than Reynolds did in two of the years he won the Golden Glove. And Reynolds played at least half of his games on artificial turf, while Murphy didn't have that advantage (fewer bad hops on turf). Later

Edgy MD Oct 23 2014 02:26 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Or Young!

Frayed Knot Oct 24 2014 06:59 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Complete Gold glove candidates list: [u:3sxcznzw]AMERICAN LEAGUE[/u:3sxcznzw] PITCHER: Mark Buehrle (Blue Jays), Felix Hernandez (Mariners), Dallas Keuchel (Astros) CATCHER: Alex Avila (Tigers), Yan Gomes (Indians), Salvador Perez (Royals) FIRST BASE: Miguel Cabrera (Tigers), Eric Hosmer (Royals), Albert Pujols (Angels) SECOND BASE: Robinson Cano (Mariners), Ian Kinsler (Tigers), Dustin Pedroia (Red Sox) THIRD BASE: Josh Donaldson (A's), Adrian Beltre (Rangers), Kyle Seager (Mariners) SHORTSTOP: Alcides Escobar (Royals), J.J. Hardy (Orioles), Alexei Ramirez (White Sox) LEFT FIELD: Michael Brantley (Indians), Yoenis Cespedes (Red Sox), Alex Gordon (Royals) CENTER FIELD: Jackie Bradley Jr. (Red Sox), Adam Eaton (White Sox), Adam Jones (Orioles) RIGHT FIELD: Kole Calhoun (Angels), Kevin Kiermaier (Rays), Nick Markakis (Orioles) [u:3sxcznzw]NATIONAL LEAGUE[/u:3sxcznzw] PITCHER: Zack Greinke (Dodgers), Clayton Kershaw (Dodgers), Adam Wainwright (Cardinals) CATCHER: Jonathan Lucroy (Brewers), Russell Martin (Pirates), Yadier Molina (Cardinals) FIRST BASE: Adrian Gonzalez (Dodgers), Adam LaRoche (Nationals), Justin Morneau (Rockies) SECOND BASE: DJ LeMahieu (Rockies), Brandon Phillips (Reds), Chase Utley (Phillies) THIRD BASE: Nolan Arenado (Rockies), Pablo Sandoval (Giants), Juan Uribe (Dodgers) SHORTSTOP: Zack Cozart (Reds), Adeiny Hechavarria (Marlins), Andrelton Simmons (Braves) LEFT FIELD: Starling Marte (Pirates), Justin Upton (Braves), Christian Yelich (Marlins) CENTER FIELD: Billy Hamilton (Reds), Juan Lagares (Mets), Denard Span (Nationals) RIGHT FIELD: Jason Heyward (Braves), Gerardo Parra (Brewers), Giancarlo Stanton (Marlins)

Edgy MD Oct 30 2014 02:45 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Fielding Bible Awards published. Multi-Position – Lorenzo Cain, Kansas City Royals First Base – Adrian Gonzalez, Los Angeles Dodgers Second Base – Dustin Pedroia, Boston Red Sox Third Base – Josh Donaldson, Oakland Athletics Shortstop – Andrelton Simmons, Atlanta Braves Left Field – Alex Gordon, Kansas City Royals Center Field – Juan Lagares[/bigpurple], New York Mets Right Field – Jason Heyward, Atlanta Braves Catcher – Jonathan Lucroy, Milwaukee Brewers Pitcher – Dallas Keuchel, Houston Astros

Zvon Oct 30 2014 05:03 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Nice :) That can't hurt his odds.

Ashie62 Oct 30 2014 07:46 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

No Jeter?

d'Kong76 Nov 01 2014 08:30 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Nice big write up in the NYT... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/01/sport ... ports&_r=0

themetfairy Nov 04 2014 05:48 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

He not only deserved it, he won it! Congratulations to Obi Juan Lagares!

G-Fafif Nov 04 2014 05:49 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

That dude catches everything.

Zvon Nov 04 2014 06:18 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

[fimg=355:2glqn7u0]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zepDwn77QTU/U3f6AoWnDKI/AAAAAAAAPzM/UUWL5eC-DnA/s652/2014mfcSS-gm41-LAGARES-z14.png[/fimg:2glqn7u0] [fimg=300:2glqn7u0]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v-y17-aksfo/U3gEXpmeHrI/AAAAAAAAP0A/pRPwOdSTsqg/s638/2014mfcssGM41SP-Lagares.png[/fimg:2glqn7u0] [fimg=400:2glqn7u0]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-81QNNKjC-4s/U92xosg9c9I/AAAAAAAAS6k/QMF9G-MGJkg/s521/MFC2014METSETgm108-LAGS-z14.gif[/fimg:2glqn7u0][fimg=355:2glqn7u0]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cmM3Knn8aNQ/U-PVBMpXMgI/AAAAAAAATCc/kOc69JFvKMk/s652/2014mfcSS-GM112sp-LAGS-z14.png[/fimg:2glqn7u0][fimg=355:2glqn7u0]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0ce-ktmcV8w/U0YicEeO6TI/AAAAAAAAOhQ/SX2ZsKJEshQ/s1052/2014mfcGM8LAGARES-z14.png[/fimg:2glqn7u0][bigpurple:2glqn7u0]A G S !![/bigpurple:2glqn7u0]

Edgy MD Nov 04 2014 06:21 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Wow, we now have three three Mets Gold Glove outfielders. [table:50saaywm][tr:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Agee[/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Lagares[/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Beltran (x3)[/td:50saaywm][/tr:50saaywm][tr:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Ordσρez (x3) Harrelson[/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Flynn[/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][/tr:50saaywm][tr:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Wright (x2) Ventura[/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Darling[/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]Hernandez (x5.65)[/td:50saaywm][/tr:50saaywm][tr:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm]??[/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][td:50saaywm][/td:50saaywm][/tr:50saaywm][/table:50saaywm] We need a catcher to get with the program.

Ashie62 Nov 04 2014 06:43 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

How did Grote not win one? Lagares next award will be a 2015 World Series ring.

d'Kong76 Nov 04 2014 06:56 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Grote was kinda blocked at the plate? Congrats to Juan, hope it's the first of many more and they accumulate here and not somewhere else any time soon!

Zvon Nov 04 2014 08:51 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Still. Even Bench said Grote was a better catcher. He should have given Jerry one of his. Seriously though, Grote should have won at least one and it does amaze me that he didn't. Shame his next appearance for me will be an embarrassing one.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 04 2014 08:53 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

The first of many for the kid. Stay golden, Johnny Lags.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 04 2014 09:24 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Zvon wrote: Still. Even Bench said Grote was a better catcher. He should have given Jerry one of his. Seriously though, Grote should have won at least one and it does amaze me that he didn't. Shame his next appearance for me will be an embarrassing one. These cards are like baseball Hogwarts. Love 'em.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2014 09:45 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Feels like one of those Rice Krispies cards that moves when you tilt it. Only, you know, 137 times better.

Zvon Nov 04 2014 10:03 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

This'll be up by tomorrow. Sneak peek. Was a bitch to make (400 frames had to be tweaked and cut), and I wish I did a better job with the cutting Fisk out part-but it was hard to make out. I think I better stay away from the cutout gifs. At least ones having that much come out of the border. I also get a lil cheap thrill from a good gifcard. It sucked that Topps didn't do individual games in the 76 set. IIRC they did a combo card. Fisk's homer gif or not would have to be a classic card. [fimg=444:2xpub567]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Tn1AMrcXAnc/VFLBHOXS9QI/AAAAAAAAVTs/sUwyBQD4ANU/s588/75mfcWS-FISKhr-z14.gif[/fimg:2xpub567] Shit. That looks kinda light in here (looked okay in animation shop). Should I darken that? The source video was pretty weak, from youtube. But I tried to lighten it and change the tint. Might have gone too far :(

Edgy MD Nov 04 2014 10:09 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

There's a creepy moment there where the pitcher walks in front of Fisk, but the pitcher's head is hidden by the frame and Fisk's upper torso is not. My brain hurts and my eyes twist out of my head in that moment, as all my understanding of a world that conforms to certain Euclidian laws falls apart.

Zvon Nov 05 2014 01:12 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Edgy MD wrote: There's a creepy moment there where the pitcher walks in front of Fisk, but the pitcher's head is hidden by the frame and Fisk's upper torso is not. My brain hurts and my eyes twist out of my head in that moment, as all my understanding of a world that conforms to certain Euclidian laws falls apart. That was my intention ;) muhahahaHAHAHA! Now pick up your eyes & go take an aspirin. Not including him was just me being lazy. Saved cutting out those frames. I did not think it would look so freaky & choppy. I'd like to try that with a much better quality copy of the play. Maybe I have it on a DVD somewhere and can make my own copy. If I do that I'll try it the other way. But frankly, right now, I'm sick of looking at it.

d'Kong76 Nov 05 2014 05:51 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: These cards are like baseball Hogwarts. Love 'em. I never would have thought of that, but you're right.

Centerfield Nov 05 2014 07:43 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Congratulations to Lagares. He has been terrific since day 1 and it's great to see him get the recognition. The best part about this award is that Juan is the real deal and not just some poser-I-dive-on-regular-balls-to-make-Sportcenter-Jim-Edmondsy-type centerfielder. Watching the post-season, it seemed like it was every other game that Hunter Pence and Aoki would stumble around and sprawl out on warning track flyballs and make the play look spectacular. The same flyballs Carlos Beltran would have camped under, then caught while thumbing through a good book. Lagares does just the opposite. Like Beltran* before him, he makes the spectacular look routine. His highlight reels feature him getting a great jump, tracking it perfectly, then catching it in stride while making small talk with Granderson. Great job Lagares. Now work on your hitting. *Too many references to Beltran right? I know. I'm still trying to get over him. And I know it's especially wrong to bring him up in this thread. Like a guy who brings up his hot-but-pscho-ex-girlfriend-from-college at his wife's birthday party. I'm working my way through this. Give me time.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2014 08:01 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

An additional cool thing is that getting three wins of value out of his defense allows him time and reps to develop into a better hitter at the big league level. Carlos Gomez was a weak hitter for five years. Worse than Lagares. Of course, he came up younger. And it's no easy row to hoe to maintain this level of defense for long. So yeah, hit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 05 2014 11:29 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Centerfield wrote: *Too many references to Beltran right? I know. I'm still trying to get over him. And I know it's especially wrong to bring him up in this thread. Like a guy who brings up his hot-but-pscho-ex-girlfriend-from-college at his wife's birthday party. I'm working my way through this. Give me time. It's okay, bud. Our group meets on alternate Thursdays in St. Nicholas' basement on Parsons.

Ceetar Nov 05 2014 11:56 AM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Centerfield wrote: *Too many references to Beltran right? I know. I'm still trying to get over him. And I know it's especially wrong to bring him up in this thread. Like a guy who brings up his hot-but-pscho-ex-girlfriend-from-college at his wife's birthday party. I'm working my way through this. Give me time. It's okay, bud. Our group meets on alternate Thursdays in St. Nicholas' basement on Parsons. is there beer?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 05 2014 12:15 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Ceetar wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Centerfield wrote: *Too many references to Beltran right? I know. I'm still trying to get over him. And I know it's especially wrong to bring him up in this thread. Like a guy who brings up his hot-but-pscho-ex-girlfriend-from-college at his wife's birthday party. I'm working my way through this. Give me time. It's okay, bud. Our group meets on alternate Thursdays in St. Nicholas' basement on Parsons. is there beer? There's plenty of leftover wine, and Tarasco usually brings some fun edible refreshments.

Ashie62 Nov 05 2014 12:18 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: There's a creepy moment there where the pitcher walks in front of Fisk, but the pitcher's head is hidden by the frame and Fisk's upper torso is not. My brain hurts and my eyes twist out of my head in that moment, as all my understanding of a world that conforms to certain Euclidian laws falls apart. That was my intention ;) muhahahaHAHAHA! Now pick up your eyes & go take an aspirin. Not including him was just me being lazy. Saved cutting out those frames. I did not think it would look so freaky & choppy. I'd like to try that with a much better quality copy of the play. Maybe I have it on a DVD somewhere and can make my own copy. If I do that I'll try it the other way. But frankly, right now, I'm sick of looking at it. Did you make these animated cards? Wow!!! Take some unlicensed minor leaguers and go to town!

Zvon Nov 05 2014 01:01 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Ashie62 wrote: Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: There's a creepy moment there where the pitcher walks in front of Fisk, but the pitcher's head is hidden by the frame and Fisk's upper torso is not. My brain hurts and my eyes twist out of my head in that moment, as all my understanding of a world that conforms to certain Euclidian laws falls apart. That was my intention ;) muhahahaHAHAHA! Now pick up your eyes & go take an aspirin. Not including him was just me being lazy. Saved cutting out those frames. I did not think it would look so freaky & choppy. I'd like to try that with a much better quality copy of the play. Maybe I have it on a DVD somewhere and can make my own copy. If I do that I'll try it the other way. But frankly, right now, I'm sick of looking at it. Did you make these animated cards? Wow!!! Take some unlicensed minor leaguers and go to town! It's more fun playing with the big boys. And, as far as I know, these gif cards will be forced to live forever in the digital realm, never attaining 3-D reality status. I mean, how do you print a .gif? [fimg=422]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GEfYfjVNPXo/U606AiHyzCI/AAAAAAAASfA/Acs3aCZqVbA/s692/73mfcWSgm4-RUSTYcatch-z14.gif[/fimg]_[fimg=444]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i01LNhS7zUs/VFfrI_axqqI/AAAAAAAAVaE/mOv8T1W-yFE/s504/73mfcWSgm3-HAHNcatchGIF-z14.gif[/fimg] Okay, sorry, gotta stop hijacking threads with this card BS. But these two do display some good leather. Describing a catch, that's one thing and always hard to do it justice. I love being able to just show em as well. I've been meaning to do a gif card of the BallOnTheWall play. Yikes, that'll be a lot of frames.

Edgy MD Nov 05 2014 01:12 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

It's amazing how that collision by Rusty --- which is perhaps my earliest specific baseball memory --- is merely modest by today's standards, but in a world before wall padding ended up being disabling. Heck he probably hit support post there too.

cooby Nov 06 2014 06:03 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Zvon those cards are great! And I remember Rusty's injury like it was yesterday, yowch!

MFS62 Nov 06 2014 06:41 PM Re: Juan Lagares deserves the Gold Glove because...

Edgy MD wrote: It's amazing how that collision by Rusty --- which is perhaps my earliest specific baseball memory --- is merely modest by today's standards, but in a world before wall padding ended up being disabling. Heck he probably hit support post there too. Remember, Force = Mass X Acceleration. And Rusty was a lot of mass moving toward that wall. Later