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Qualifying Offers

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2014 10:42 AM

Today (5 PM EST) is the deadline for teams to make a 'qualifying offer' of $15.3 million (this year's average salary of the top 125 MLers) to potential FAs. Only those teams who offer at least that amount will be compensated with a draft pick next June if that player signs with another team. Among those most likely to get offers are: KC - James Shields Tigers - Max Scherzer and Victor Martinez Blue Jays - Melky Cabrera Braves - Ervin Santana Giants - Pablo Sandoval Orioles - Nelson Cruz Yankees - David Robertson Pirates - Russell Martin Dodgers - Hanley Ramirez Shields & Cabrera appear to be the only ones for whom the offer has already been extended. Several of the other teams have indicated that they will but have not yet officially. Players then have up to one week to either accept or reject the offer.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2014 02:44 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Cuddyer gets a qualifying offer.

seawolf17 Nov 03 2014 02:46 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Edgy MD wrote: Cuddyer gets a qualifying offer. Which he should take.

Ceetar Nov 03 2014 02:48 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Edgy MD wrote: Cuddyer gets a qualifying offer. Hmm. He might fall into that iffy "Stephen Drew" area where he's going to be looking for a decent paycheck and no one thinks he's worth both that and giving up a draft pick. Is he turning down 1/15 and settling for something like 2/20? I doubt it, and I'm not sure I like him at much more than that. Assuming he declines anyway.

Edgy MD Nov 03 2014 02:54 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Cuddyer at 2x20 or even 2x25 is probably palatable --- if not ideal --- to the Mets. I mean, philosophically palatable, if the money is there. Add in a drafty picky, though, and it probably gets a little more complicated. Nick Markakis, call your agent.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2014 03:27 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Edgy MD wrote: Cuddyer gets a qualifying offer. Whoa, I didn't see that one coming! This is either good news or bad for NYM fans depending on whether they wanted Cuddyer or not as I suspect this takes him out of the Mets' plans. He was at the end of the three-year deal he signed with the Rox following the 2012 season which was paying him $10.5/per and if I were him, coming off a mostly lost season (< 200 ABs) and getting to stay in Coors, I'd jump all over that offer. On the other hand, maybe he's thinking that, at age 36 (in March), this is his last best chance for a multi-year deal.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2014 06:15 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Those receiving qualifying offers: James Shields (Royals) Michael Cuddyer (Rockies) Max Scherzer (Tigers) Victor Martinez (Tigers) Ervin Santana (Braves) Hanley Ramirez (Dodgers) Pablo Sandoval (Giants) Melky Cabrera (Blue Jays) Francisco Liriano (Pirates) Russell Martin (Pirates) David Robertson (Yankees) Nelson Cruz (Orioles)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2014 06:47 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Cuddyer gets a qualifying offer. Which he should take. Yeah that's got to screw up the Mets' plans anyway. I don't think Markakis is quite the guy they need. Maybe they say the hell with this and go Nimmo.

Lefty Specialist Nov 03 2014 07:08 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Nimmo's not ready. Take one year of Cespedes and call me in the morning.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2014 08:22 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Nimmo probably ain't ready. But I'm not that into Cespedes. Allen Craig maybe? He's a kind of poor man's Cuddyer.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 03 2014 08:37 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Oh, now THAT's a buy-low. Only problem is, I think the Sox were thinking the same thing when they took him last year in the Lackey trade.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2014 08:43 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Anyone up for a challenge trade? The Angels are said to be looking for pitching: Pick a young pitcher and send him for young OFer Kole Calhoun Just turned 27, 3rd season but just his first full(ish) one, not even arg-eligible till 2017, L/L, 51 XBHs in < 500 ABs in 2014, plays RF (have no idea how well) Look, I've barely seen the guy and have no idea if the Angels would be willing/looking to move him, but I think this is the type of trade that will probably fill one of the lineup holes we're looking to plug this winter, and it's something that will take pitching but < Syndergaard to pull off.

Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2014 06:46 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

Not so sure about the '<'. Angels love Calhoun and they have no obvious candidate to replace him (they traded away Peter Bourjos and Randal Chichuk to the Cards to make room for him). Gold Glove finalist in RF so he plays it well. Don't see the upside for the Angels here. They need pitching but they can pry that away other ways. He'd be a great fit but it ain't happening.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2014 07:40 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

I think right-handed hitters look like better fits right now. Would hate to see the tying run on second and no outs the opposing manager bring in Sean Doolittle or Randy Choate or Jerry Blevins or some chump to dump a bunch of junky curveballs at Duda, Grandy, and Calhoun or somebody.

metsmarathon Nov 04 2014 07:43 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

yeesh. if you're in hte mood for some red flags frantically waving to and fro, go check out yoenis cespedes' list of comparable players, as of their age-28 season, and check out the "rest of career" option. basically, the ten players who've put up the most similar stats to cespedes at the same age, averages 0.8 more WAR through the [u:35t5p8q9]end of their respective careers[/u:35t5p8q9]. the total is held aloft mostly by cody ross' 5.9 WAR. yes, a possible best-case scenario for cespedes, is cody ross. now, i'll be the first to tell you that these similarity scores mean a giant pile of squat in terms of predicting hte future for a given player, as they're not normalized for era, ballpark, and many many other factors, and certainly don't account for player skills and abilities and talents and health. but still, for whatever validity is present in this data, it is darkly foreboding. i don't like cespedes, especially at the cost of what it would take to get him, and his career arc does not look at all promising. craig is a bit more interesting, and likely more gettable. his best case scenario, fwiw, is hal mcrae (12 years, 22.5 WAR) or jeff conine (12 years 13.3 WAR), with washouts harry anderson and johnny rizzo providing counterarguments.

Edgy MD Nov 04 2014 07:48 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

Yeah, but Harry Anderson was funny on Night Court, and he had that juggling act going. I like the spirit of the Calhoun proposal. A batter who has already established himself in the bigs but isn't fully realized and may not be the perfect fit on a team that needs young pitching more than young hitting. It would be the modern equivalent of the Terrell/HoJo deal. Now we just need to find our HoJo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 04 2014 07:57 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

I was trying to find out what became of Allen Craig. Most positive interpretation was he had a broken foot last year and concern over smashing himself with a foul ball messed up his swing. He has 3 years and $26 million to go on his contract which is a lot if he 62 OPS+'s again. No reason for Boston not to kick in some $$ unless they want a guy making that kinda green to be a 4th OF.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 04 2014 08:47 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

How about Craig as a we'll-pay-the-freight throw-in in the Colon-for-Victorino trade I'm working on in my mind?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 04 2014 09:15 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

I don;t know the story with Victorino neither. What injury is he dealing with now? Would arrive with a lot of douche-baggage he'd have to overcome with a really good start.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 04 2014 09:29 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

Was coming off a hamstring injury, then had a back issue, with surgery in August; MassLive rates him at about an 80 percent chance to be on the Opening Day roster.

Lefty Specialist Nov 05 2014 03:33 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

Dear god, no. I'd rather re-sign Chris Young than trade for Victorino.

seawolf17 Nov 05 2014 05:08 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

Lefty Specialist wrote: Dear god, no. I'd rather re-sign Chris Young than trade for Victorino. I'd rather trade for Chris Young The Pitcher and stick him in center field than trade for Victorino.

bmfc1 Nov 05 2014 05:45 AM Re: Qualifying Offers

There is some Michael Morse talk today. Two good reads: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-obvi ... ore-167564 Morse clouted 16 but saw just two clear the fence after the calendar changed to July. It makes these hitters, high average and good contact rates though they claim, tough sells for teams in need of offense. http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit ... nts-110214 Put simply, we didn't think Morse would hit enough to atone for his substandard left-field play. Add in his shaky health record, and there was a chance for disaster. But it wasn't a disaster. If power is what the Giants desired from Morse, then he fulfilled their dreams by finishing second on the roster in ISO. He wasn't just all about the bass, either—he posted the second-highest True Average, too. All told, Morse played as much as he had in all but one season, and put together the third-best offensive season of his career that saw him notch triple-digit plate appearances. He wasn't as good as the Giants could have helped, he was better. He seems to fit the concept of getting someone to "hold down the fort" until Conforto and/or Nimmo are ready but I'm skeptical because of his injury history. He has a good walk-up song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

Frayed Knot Nov 10 2014 05:31 PM Re: Qualifying Offers

As was the case last year, each of the players given a qualifying offer has rejected it in favor of becoming a FA.