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2014 Rankings Project
Frayed Knot Nov 04 2014 06:25 AM |
It's Ranking time!!
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Ceetar Nov 04 2014 07:16 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
and if Papa Grande isn't #1, you're doing it wrong.
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seawolf17 Nov 04 2014 07:42 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
deGrom
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RealityChuck Nov 04 2014 08:59 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
DeGrom
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Gwreck Nov 04 2014 10:39 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
2014 Mets with positive WAR, per Baseball-reference
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seawolf17 Nov 04 2014 01:30 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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Really? In what, sixty AB? That's surprising. His pitching wasn't that bad.
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G-Fafif Nov 04 2014 02:45 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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Happened to see this on WAR in Joe Posnanski's profile of Bill James last week.
Colon might be a decent example of the shortfall James senses.
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Frayed Knot Nov 04 2014 03:41 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Not to steer this thread away from the topic too far, but one problem with WAR is that it's an estimate (well thought-out or otherwise) that's too often treated as if stone-cold fact. (it's not as bad a QB-ratings, but along those same lines).
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Gwreck Nov 04 2014 07:28 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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Definitely this; apologies if it was unclear.
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d'Kong76 Nov 05 2014 05:00 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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Haha, I copied and pasted your list yesterday into my Excel sheet as a starting point and started looking at it this morning and was like, "this can't be Wright!"
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seawolf17 Nov 05 2014 05:07 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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I saw that Chuck had Wright tenth and thought "man, how is he that low? I had to have him higher, right?" and realized I'd left him off entirely. Oops.
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d'Kong76 Nov 05 2014 09:11 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
I have to proofread, but here's a first crack...
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Ceetar Nov 05 2014 09:21 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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I think a lot of it has to do with the faultiness of defensive stats. But yeah, estimates. a 6 WAR and a 5.5 WAR for instance doesn't say anything about which player is better, but generally the players with the best WAR do pass the eye test for being the best players in the league, so it's hard to say it's less 'wild guess' than James implies.
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Frayed Knot Nov 05 2014 10:31 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Yes, defense is a large part of it and, like James, I haven't gone under the hood of WAR to suss out how I feel about the accuracy of it all nor I have read up on what James is specifically objecting to.
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Frayed Knot Nov 06 2014 06:11 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Position players:
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Ceetar Nov 07 2014 12:39 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
you got a deadline for this? I haven't gotten to it yet.
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G-Fafif Nov 07 2014 12:52 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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The 2014 New York Mets Highlight Film -- brought to you by the good folks at Borden.
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Frayed Knot Nov 07 2014 01:49 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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Not yet. We'll stick a close-out date on it eventually after entries and/or debate winds down, but nothing imminent.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2014 02:47 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
30. Duda
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2014 02:50 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Wow, I have Buddy Caryle way up there.
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Frayed Knot Nov 07 2014 04:36 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
My reluctance to putting Buddy C so high is based on: only 31 innings and most of them were of the low leverage variety.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 07 2014 07:24 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
definitely forgot Recker. Torres was on original list but musta got overlooked at the merge.
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G-Fafif Nov 19 2014 04:08 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
30 deGrom
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Frayed Knot Nov 19 2014 06:10 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Ah yes, thanks for reviving this.
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TheOldMole Nov 22 2014 03:40 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Good analysis by Frayed...I have to go along with it.
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Ceetar Dec 08 2014 10:34 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
30 deGrom
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 08 2014 10:58 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
fixed mine...
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Vic Sage Dec 08 2014 01:20 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
DeGrom
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Frayed Knot Dec 09 2014 05:22 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Now we're cooking with gas!
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Frayed Knot Jan 05 2015 10:49 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Going Once ... Going Twice ...
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Nymr83 Jan 05 2015 10:44 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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give me a few days to maybe get to it
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 06 2015 12:25 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 06 2015 11:11 AM |
30. DeGrom
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Frayed Knot Jan 06 2015 10:40 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
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I'll close things out Sunday night (12th)
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Frayed Knot Jan 12 2015 05:00 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 13 2015 07:05 AM |
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Ta-Dah ... your 2014 Top-30 New York Mets!!
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 12 2015 06:22 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
DAN WHEELER???
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Frayed Knot Jan 13 2015 07:08 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Dan, Zack, what's the difference?
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Frayed Knot Jan 18 2015 05:59 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Overall rank of this year’s players:
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Frayed Knot Jan 18 2015 06:01 PM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
ALPHA Order
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Vic Sage Jan 20 2015 08:17 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
My rankings compared to the final rankings:
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d'Kong76 Jan 23 2015 11:15 AM Re: 2014 Rankings Project |
Nice job as always, Señor Knot. I know some of us use this
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