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METS & CABLEVISION/SATS ... DO NOT disappoint us

KC
Jan 25 2006 04:51 PM

I realize the discussion about the new network is all buried in the Cohen to
MTV thread but we need one clear as day about how pissed off we're going
to be if there is no broadcast of the new network on all mediums by 3/18 or
whatever the date is.

We don't want to wait until mid-May, late April, second week of April ... WE
WANT A RESOLUTION IN PLACE SOON so we get EVERY broadcast and
that includes spring training and whatever is shown from day one.

DO NOT SCREW US.

Thank you.

Elster88
Jan 25 2006 04:54 PM

Yes.

ScarletKnight41
Jan 25 2006 04:58 PM

Don't screw with my buds or we'll get CF on your ass. Trust me, you don't want to have to deal with him - he's relentless!

Nymr83
Jan 25 2006 05:00 PM

missing ANY regular season games is not acceptable at all...i like watching spring training but i wouldnt really be too pissed if we missed some of that while they hammered out a contract.

KC
Jan 25 2006 05:40 PM

Nymr83 throws solidarity out the window 9 minutes into the thread.

metirish
Jan 25 2006 06:02 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 25 2006 08:33 PM

Well now that I live in a Cablevision town I am worried, please Mr. Dolan do not fuck with us.....thanks.

seawolf17
Jan 25 2006 08:18 PM

Yeah. Shit will go down.

metirish
Feb 17 2006 09:18 AM

]

Deja view
all over again

SNY-Cablevision fight possible




In less than one month - March 16, to be exact - SportsNet New York, the TV home of the Mets, is scheduled to debut.
Will you be able to watch it?

The question is on the minds of Mets fans who were just spectators on March 19, 2002, when Cablevision, which has more than three million subscribers in the metropolitan area, blacked out opening night of George Steinbrenner's Yankees Sports & Entertainment Network.

Cablevision, and its boss James Dolan, proceeded to go to war with YES, refusing to carry the network - and Yankees baseball - for the entire 2002 season. YES and Cablevision did not sign a contract until March 31, 2003 - at exactly 6:39 p.m. - allowing fans, who had been jerked around for an entire season, to catch the Bombers' 2003 opener in Toronto.

Up until that point, what transpired were a few attempts at productive negotiations and more than a year of PR spin from both sides. There also were lies, politicians using the situation for personal gain and many Yankee fans dumping cable TV for satellite providers.

The saddest part of the conflict was how it affected elderly fans, who had invested a lifetime of emotions in a sport they loved. Senior citizens - some confined to hospitals, their own homes, or elder-care facilities - were deprived of their greatest pleasure. And that was simply having the ability to turn on their TV and watch the Yankees.

This was of absolutely no concern to Dolan, who wielded Cablevision's monopoly power like a bully; or Steinbrenner, and his partner, investment bank Goldman Sachs, who used the Yankees' recent success to squeeze as much money as they could from cable operators.

Fan interest always finishes second to busine$$. That's what the YES-Cablevision thing was about. That's what it will be about for Fred Wilpon, and the executives running SNY as well. And yet, as things stand today, chances of Mets fans getting to see SNY when it launches appear to be better than they were in the month leading up to YES' 2002 debut.

Wilpon is coming to the negotiating table with two cable/entertainment behemoths - Time Warner and Comcast - as his partners in SNY. Not only does this guarantee SNY distribution on local Time Warner and Comcast cable systems, it is also advantageous in the relationship department. Dolan and Time Warner chief Dick Parsons didn't swap Valentine's Day cards the other day, but Cablevision - as a programmer - already has deals in place with Time Warner and Comcast. In the future, Cablevision will bring new networks onto the market while also looking to renew old deals.

So, it may make it easier for Cablevision to carry SNY when it knows down the road, during a negotiation, Time Warner or Comcast might be more inclined to cut a deal with Cablevision to carry one of its networks - like AMC, MSG, or FSNY.

Out of the YES/Cablevision settlement also came an arbitrator's decision, setting a precedent that regional sports networks should be placed on an "expanded basic" rather than a "premium" tier. With this issue likely off the board, the key negotiating point between SNY and any cable operator, or satellite service, is price. While YES came on the market looking for cable operators to pay about $2.25 per month per subscriber, SNY's asking price appears to be in the $1.60-$1.75 range.

Those inclined to be optimistic also believe that because the bulk of Cablevision subscribers reside on Long Island - Mets country - cutting a deal with SNY will be more of a priority, and more palatable, for Dolan.

While the path to an agreement between SNY and Cablevision appears to be less littered than the one YES had four years ago, this does not guarantee the two parties will get to the end of the road - a deal. This is why there is absolutely no reason for optimism until a contract is signed. Already, there is some resistance to carrying SNY. Patriot Media, a cable operator servicing 80,000 households in New Jersey (Hunterdon, Somerset, Morris and Mercer counties) has told some of its subscribers it won't carry SNY because of "certain requirements imposed" by "that network."

Cable operators never are obligated to provide a definitive reason for a business decision, like raising rates or not carrying SNY, because they are monopolies. With the exception of satellite providers - DirecTV, Dish Network - they have no competition.

Over the years, Cablevision has taken advantage of its dual role as a cable operator/programmer. When it owned SportsChannel, Cablevision messed with MSG. Then came YES.

Why should SNY be any different?

So, Mets fans, until further notice, hope for the best.

And prepare for the worst.

Originally published on February 17, 2006




http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/392170p-332602c.html

KC
Feb 17 2006 09:45 AM

>>>So, Mets fans, until further notice, hope for the best.
And prepare for the worst<<<

Isn't that what Mets fans do every year?

I'm looking forward to the extended coverage of spring training on the new
network - we probably will get dicked out it with a last minute settlement.

Frayed Knot
Feb 17 2006 10:20 AM

I was reading a story the other day about places where phone companies have been permitted to enter the cable market and compete with established providers. In places where it's already happened the existing cable companies wound up dropping rates by 25%. By the same principle, if programmers had another outlet to reach Cablevision customers there'd be very little hard-ball playing and denial of services.

But of course the cable systems all deny acting as monopolies.

Edgy DC
Feb 17 2006 11:30 AM

That's what happened in DC. District Cablevision was as corrupt and inept as, well, as somebody who got an exclusive contract from the DC government in the nineteen-eighties could be expected to be.

Star Power came in, and it was compete or die for District Cablevision.

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 17 2006 11:40 AM

I'm more cahnfident that this dispute gets settled soon. The Dolans shirley will be dicks about it, but they just can't survive denying Long Islanders of their Mets, and there's no upside to it. At least when they stuck up TWC last year it was about keeping their own (shitty) programming on the systems.

As y'all know I was real active writing every politician I could vote for. Got the best and most enthusiastic responses from state assemblymen, Spitzer, and mainly, Senator Hilary, whose staff really worked hard: They cc'ed everybody up and down the food chain and I was getting mailed responses from people I hadn't even written before long.

My local city councilman didn;t even bother to return my calls or letters and subsequently came out against the preservation of a historic building in my hood so his developer buds can blow it up and build 20-story luxury apts. He'll soon be out on his ass.

Edgy DC
Feb 17 2006 11:49 AM

David Yassky?

seawolf17
Feb 17 2006 12:15 PM

What kind of a name is Yassky? Weird.

(I think this would make a fun game: someone throws out a name from their past, then Edgy scours the web and posts pictures and we have to vote if we think he's right. It's kinda like the old "To Tell The Truth," cpfized.)

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 17 2006 12:15 PM

Yeah. I have to say, I really don't know enough to criticize the de-landmarking of the building, but Yassky argued the designation was a give-back to preservationists pissed off at losing the battle to preserve some Columbus Circle real estate and he may be right. But his strategy seemed to be convincing City Council that the building was ugly.

Austin Nichols warehouse, designed by cass Gilbert, beetter known for the Woolworth Building:



I'm mostly mad at Yassky for not getting back to me.

Nymr83
Feb 17 2006 12:25 PM

preserving buildings just because they are old is stupid if they aren't nice buildings.

Centerfield
Feb 17 2006 02:25 PM

Tony Avella from Bayside was a big help.

My councilwoman Margarita Lopez, did dick.

http://www.margaritalopez.com/

She is now running for Borough President. Make sure you don't vote for her.

PatchyFogg
Feb 17 2006 02:44 PM

="Johnny Dickshot"]I'm more cahnfident that this dispute gets settled soon. The Dolans shirley will be dicks about it, but they just can't survive denying Long Islanders of their Mets, and there's no upside to it. quote]

They can and they will. Never has a public company existed that willfully got away from not giving 1 shiite about its customers.

I've got a call into Bob Raissman. Hopefully, I can book him for Tuesday night.

KC
Feb 17 2006 03:00 PM

Don't forget the rest of the areas that Cablevision serves - freaking Long
Islanders think the sun rises and sets on them lol.

PatchyFogg
Feb 17 2006 03:36 PM

KC wrote:
Don't forget the rest of the areas that Cablevision serves - freaking Long
Islanders think the sun rises and sets on them lol.


Well, it is the home of Sunrise Highway.....

ABG
Feb 17 2006 04:59 PM

Has anyone seen updates on their negotiations with DirectTV?

MFS62
Feb 18 2006 04:12 PM

I have Charter Cablevision.
I spoke with someone there today. She said the marketing department hasn't announced yet as to whether they will be carrying that channel.
If they don't, keep checking CNN. You might see a picture of a distinguished looking gentleman being led off from an ugly scene of mayhem in the back of a Police cruiser. And I don't mean Dick Cheney.

Later

KC
Feb 27 2006 02:39 PM

From The New York Times

By Opening Day, Cablevision May Carry New Met Network
By RICHARD SANDOMIR


Cablevision is close to an agreement to carry the Mets' new cable network, SportsNet New York, that would allow the channel to be seen throughout the metropolitan region.

But Mark Harrad, a spokesman for Time Warner Cable, which is a partner with the Mets and Comcast in the network, cautioned that nothing formal had been signed. "Talks are progressing well," he said. "We are optimistic, but there is no deal in place yet."

Jim Maiella, a Cablevision spokesman, would not describe the status of the negotiations, but he said officials expected to carry the Mets on opening day and beyond.

SNY will start broadcasting March 16 with a Mets spring training game against the Atlanta Braves and will carry the opening-day game against the Washington Nationals on April 3.

A deal with Cablevision would add its three million subscribers to the 3.1 million in the area who have been committed by Time Warner and Comcast. SNY is also in talks with the satellite operators DirecTV and Dish Network.

The Mets paid Cablevision $54 million to be released from their contract with the MSG Network and Fox Sports New York after last season. Cablevision unsuccessfully sued the Mets for breach of contract and to prevent them from any planning on the new network until November 2005.

Like the Mets, the Yankees left Cablevision to start their own channel, the YES Network. Cablevision refused to carry YES in 2002, arguing that it was worth far less than what was being charged. A deal brokered by the state attorney general, Eliot Spitzer, put YES on Cablevision in 2003, and a long-term contract was required by an arbitration panel.

Officials have decided to place SNY at Channel 26 and move Fox Sports New York to Channel 79 on Time Warner's New York City system.

Elster88
Feb 27 2006 03:16 PM

Encouraging.

seawolf17
Feb 27 2006 03:29 PM

Keep those fingers crossed.

KC
Mar 16 2006 12:16 PM

Pretty damn annoying get one of those what seems like a daily email from
the Mets advertising something this afternoon kicks off their new network and
all of their fans aren't going to be able to watch it.

Thanks, Fred.

Nymr83
Mar 16 2006 02:17 PM

What about "Thanks, Cablevision"? We don't know who is being unreasonable.

KC
Mar 16 2006 02:31 PM

I didn't mean to sound as if I'm taking sides, it's the Mets that send out an
annoying daily advertising email hawking this and hawking that.

Thanks, Dolan.

cleonjones11
Mar 16 2006 10:00 PM

Drop cable

KC
Mar 17 2006 12:38 PM

cj: >>>Drop cable<<<

I threw out the rabbit-ears last time we cleaned out the junk closet.

Centerfield
Mar 17 2006 01:00 PM

Dropping cable would do you no good as Direct TV and Dishnetwork also have no deal in place.

cleonjones11
Mar 17 2006 07:38 PM

Dropping cable or going to economy cable at 14.95 a month would be my personal form of protest. That's all

KC
Mar 17 2006 08:31 PM

I don't want to protest, I want to watch the Mets.

Besides, I get enough guff around home for having candles-only Thursdays
and no water usage after 9.

cleonjones11
Mar 17 2006 11:22 PM

Tough camp

metirish
Mar 18 2006 08:19 PM

No SNY yet, I called Cablevision tonight and was told that they fully expect to carry but don't know when that will be....

metirish
Mar 20 2006 04:21 PM

Any news on this yet?

HahnSolo
Mar 23 2006 01:58 PM

FAN reporting a deal between Cablevision and SNY. Only caught a quick mention, but supposedly it will be on in time for tonight's game. Channel 60 (at least for tonight) in most areas.

soupcan
Mar 23 2006 02:01 PM

Excellent.

Centerfield
Mar 23 2006 02:18 PM

Now time for the dishes to fall in line.

PatchyFogg
Mar 23 2006 02:48 PM

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-spsny0324,0,4018120.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

]SNY, Cablevision reach deal

BY NEIL BEST
Newsday Staff Writer

March 23, 2006, 1:53 PM EST


SportsNet New York reached a carriage agreement with Cablevision Thursday, doubling the regional sports network's distribution and calming Mets fans who were concerned that they would be shut out of their team's games this season.

SNY launched March 16 and since then has been in serious talks with the Long Island-based cable TV giant, which has about 3 million customers. Previously, SNY had been available in about 3 million homes, primarily through Comcast and Time Warner, which are part owners of the network.

Cablevision homes were expected to have access to SNY sometime Thursday night, when a Mets spring training game against the Marlins was to be shown. The network will be carried on Channel 60.

SNY will show 125 Mets games this season.

Next on SNY's agenda are the two largest satellite TV providers, DirecTV and Dish Network. A deal with DirecTV seems more likely. Dish does not carry the Yankees' YES Network.

The Mets' opener is April 3.

KC
Mar 23 2006 02:55 PM

It's not on in central Westchester, but my bet is (like LF I think said) FitTV
on channel 73 (the # here) is about to bite the dust and round out a YES,
MSG, FSNY, SNY quadfecta.

Methead
Mar 23 2006 02:57 PM

Awesome!

Elster88
Mar 23 2006 03:03 PM

I'd like to once again giggle to myself and point out that the Yankee fans had to miss a season of games....and we didn't.

Thanks for being the guinea pig, George!

Centerfield
Mar 23 2006 03:06 PM

Yankee fans didn't have a TV Panic thread and a determined letter-writing campaign.

ScarletKnight41
Mar 23 2006 03:07 PM

And they didn't have CF on their side!

Frayed Knot
Mar 23 2006 03:49 PM

YES really ws the guinea pig in that theirs was a huge fight over the concept of who - provider or distributer - got to decide whether the channel was destined to be part of the regular package or stuffed onto a pay tier.
Once Cablevision lost that fight the rules for this addition were much more defined and all that remained to fight over was the price. It's why I was only somewhat worried over this but never really panicked.

metirish
Mar 23 2006 05:36 PM

And here in Yorktown SNY is on......yeeeeeeah

metsmarathon
Mar 23 2006 05:47 PM

channel 60 for cablevision of morris. yippee.

KC
Mar 23 2006 05:53 PM

nothing

KC
Mar 23 2006 06:08 PM

It's on 60 now here too - on the iO Digital Channel Guide station?

I'll take it, but the picture sucks, audio ain't much better.

metirish
Mar 23 2006 06:10 PM

Yeah it's 60 here,I hear the in-game picture sucks, is Bill Webb with SNY, he's the best at game direction.

metsmarathon
Mar 23 2006 07:00 PM

yeah, it does kinda look like a public access cable show in the booth right now, doesn't it... i hope they've got all the good cameras ready in new york!

ScarletKnight41
Mar 23 2006 07:23 PM

Mets World! Mets World!

Party Time!

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 23 2006 07:34 PM

Welcome guys.

I'll be honest: After getting shut out for 7 months last year, I was kinda enjoying having MTV to myself. I'm a jerkoff.

If you're watching now, you're getting Rain Delay Theatre. Coming up, you'll see Greg in the next segment (guy with glasses, not interviewed).

Iwas looking forward to seeing Iriki tonite, hopefully not a rainout

ScarletKnight41
Mar 23 2006 07:40 PM

Did I miss Greg?

I stepped away for a minute, and came back to Billy Wagner helping deliver a baby alpalca.

When they showed the Wagner footage on the kid show this week, the girl who hosts the show followed it up by asking Wagner, "What was it like giving birth to an alpalca?"

cooby
Mar 23 2006 07:42 PM

I'm sorry, KC, but when I saw your "nothing" post and that little guy hitting his head on his desk, I laughed out loud.

Hope it works out for you

Edgy DC
Mar 23 2006 07:51 PM

I hope Darling is up to this. For an Ivy Leaguer, he always seemed a beat and a half behind the conversation.

metirish
Mar 23 2006 08:00 PM

When I watched Darling on WPIX 11 last week he sounded a lot like Hernandez to me.....

cleonjones11
Mar 23 2006 10:09 PM

Hey watching channel 60 now! I'm psyched!

cleonjones11
Mar 23 2006 10:11 PM

metirish wrote:
When I watched Darling on WPIX 11 last week he sounded a lot like Hernandez to me.....


Off subject but..Brian Bannister reminds me of Ron Darling..not overpowering..must maintain command ..12-6 curve...hits corners...keeps ball low..

metirish
Mar 24 2006 12:06 AM

IIRC Darling remarked that Bannister's 12-6 curve is not a pitch you see that much anymore in the game.....

cleonjones11
Mar 24 2006 06:22 AM

Curveball is less taught at the highs school level on up. Aaron Sele has squeezed 15 years out of that thing.

MFS62
Mar 24 2006 02:22 PM

Light at the end of the tunnel?
I received a letter from my local cable company that said that as of May1, the Golf Channel will be moved to the premium sports tier. That will open up a spot next to MSG and YES in the non-premium sports station group.

I can only hope they will use that spot for SNY.

But, May1?

Later

Elster88
Mar 24 2006 02:28 PM

Cablevision in southwestern CT: SNY is operational, channel 60.

Caught a little of the ST game against the Cards. Was that really Ronnie Darling in the booth with Gary? He sounded exactly like Keith.

MFS62
Mar 24 2006 02:32 PM

I don't have Cablevision. I have Charter Communications. I received an email a while back when I inquired about them getting SNY that said they were "in negotiations" with Cablevision. If that's true, it means they won't get a direct SNY feed, but get it from CV. Maybe that's thr reason for the delay.

Later

cooby
Mar 24 2006 02:33 PM

Better than my email to my cable company. They just said "nope".

Willets Point
Mar 24 2006 02:36 PM

You have to say "I want my MTV!"

MFS62
Mar 24 2006 02:49 PM

Willets Point wrote:
You have to say "I want my MTV!"


Not funny for Cooby.
We may have to put her on a suicide watch.

Later

cooby
Mar 24 2006 02:53 PM

Nah, I'll get through it. I've gone years without them before :) And that was before the internet

MFS62
Mar 24 2006 03:04 PM

cooby wrote:
Nah, I'll get through it. I've gone years without them before :) And that was before the internet


Phew! That makes me feel better.
Hang in there, Coob.
We'll be here for ya'.

Later

metirish
Mar 24 2006 04:27 PM

]Better than my email to my cable company. They just said "nope".


Cooby not sure if you know this, but Comcast are in the process of buying Suscom so nothing will be added to Suscom till that deal goes through, form what I read that should happen in a few weeks,then you will have SNY as Comcast is part owner.

cooby
Mar 24 2006 04:34 PM

I certainly hope you are right! I knew Suscom was getting bought but I didn't know by whom.

They might have mentioned that in their email. I'll wait and see, but thanks for the encouragement!

KC
Mar 29 2006 09:16 AM

Not to get greedy or anything, but are we going to get an HDTV channel from
SNY in the near future? I get YES, FSNY, and MSG channels - why shouldn't
we get SNY as well?

Last nights picture was probably the best I've received this season. The audio/
video quality of most everything on this channel has kinda sucked early on.

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 29 2006 09:21 AM

My system has reserved an HD channel for MTV & will broadcast home RS games there.

KC
Mar 29 2006 09:28 AM

Cool, so it's time to start bugging Cablevision. (again)

abogdan
Apr 01 2006 12:52 PM

[url=http://www.nypost.com/sports/66336.htm]According to the Post[/url], RCN just finished a deal with SNY.

KC
Apr 06 2006 07:52 PM

Just to keep the kvetching on a level playing field, we're getting an HDTV
feed on the iOHD channel instead of "Carribean Express" whatever that is.

cleonjones11
Apr 06 2006 08:04 PM

KC wrote:
Cool, so it's time to start bugging Cablevision. (again)


You don't have to bang your head over and over...

cooby
Apr 07 2006 12:56 PM

Bad news for me--I just got off the phone with my cable company and we are in the blackout area for MLB Extra Innings for both the Mets and the Pirates.

However, it was discovered that we had been charged for an extra digital cable converter since December so we are getting a $35 credit, so that's something

metirish
Apr 07 2006 12:58 PM

Cooby did you ask them when Comcast are closing the deal for Suscom?

cooby
Apr 07 2006 01:00 PM

No, I completely forgot.

We can pick up Cleveland and Boston, so I might still get it for my son, and hope that she's wrong about the Mets. I just find it odd that Yancy can get them and I cant.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 07 2006 01:02 PM

="cooby"]Bad news for me--I just got off the phone with my cable company and we are in the blackout area for MLB Extra Innings for both the Mets and the Pirates.


Huh? That's nuts! I can't imagine that the Mets and the Pirates have any overlap at all.

You can find a list of blacked out zip codes, by team, on MLB's web site. (Go to the part that gives information about the MLB TV package.)

You may want to try calling again and talking to someone smarter. That's what happened with me. I was told that I was in a New York blackout area, but it turned out not to be true. If I'm not, you certainly shouldn't be.

cooby
Apr 07 2006 01:03 PM

No, this lady was very nice and very meticulous, I believe her. But I'll look on there, I didn't know there was a place for the garden variety consumer to look.

The Pirates I expected, the Mets I was surprised.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 07 2006 01:06 PM

The guy who gave me the bum information seemed nice and smart too. He had me thinking that MLB had extended its blackout radius, but that clearly wasn't the case.

cooby
Apr 07 2006 01:08 PM

Yancy I went to the mlb.com website and found the page about Extra Innings, but I don't see a place where you can check your zip code

Frayed Knot
Apr 07 2006 01:08 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 07 2006 01:51 PM

Meanwhile, SNY has struck agreements with DISH, Blue Ridge Cable in PA, plus some small system in Jersey which I forget already (RNC?)


On edit: It's Patriot Cable that's newly signed in New Jersey

Centerfield
Apr 07 2006 01:11 PM

Dish Network? For real? Last I heard they didn't carry YES. If that means they have the Mets channel but not the MFY channel, they might be my favorite distributor of programming ever.

cooby
Apr 07 2006 01:12 PM

Yeah, that's why we got rid of DishNetwork in the first place

mlbaseballtalk
Apr 07 2006 01:13 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Dish Network? For real? Last I heard they didn't carry YES. If that means they have the Mets channel but not the MFY channel, they might be my favorite distributor of programming ever.


I yelled at a Dish cold call sales guy during the summer about that. Well I yelled to shut the guy up over me having DirecTV and Dish still being "in negotiations" with YES, then a little more than 3 years after its startup!

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 07 2006 01:28 PM

It's kinda buried on this page: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/subscriptions/mlbtv.jsp

Scroll down to where it says • Am I in a Local Live Blackout region?

cooby
Apr 07 2006 01:34 PM

When I select Mets, absolutely nothing happens.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 07 2006 01:46 PM

It's supposed to be a pop up window. Maybe you have a blocker that squelched it.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 07 2006 01:55 PM

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Elster88
Apr 07 2006 01:56 PM

What the...

cooby
Apr 07 2006 01:57 PM

Yep, I'm there

cooby
Apr 07 2006 02:07 PM

Thanks for your help, Yancy! :)

metirish
Apr 08 2006 10:04 PM

For the last few days Cablevision is showing MLB extra innings for free, pretty cool, today with the Mets rained out I tuned into the Giants TV home to watch them play the Braves, now it's the Rockies at the Padres,still I wouldn't pay for it, it's $150+ for the season.

MFS62
Apr 15 2006 11:58 AM

YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!
I was channel surfing last night and, there it was (right where I hoped it migh be when Charter Communications moved another station to make room for it):

SNY.

I am happy.

Later

Frayed Knot
Apr 15 2006 04:35 PM

So they added the channel but apparently tried to keep it a secret from you figuring you'd eventually stumble across it accidently.
And cable operators wonder why being held in high esteem continues to elude them.