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Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Edgy MD Nov 13 2014 06:17 AM

"Go @$#% yourself, Terry."

cooby Nov 13 2014 06:47 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Childish

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2014 07:18 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Hey why give Rube the hits on a scoop he didn't scoop. Harper with the exclusive in the Snooze: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/harper-jon-niese-arm-temper-mets-thinking-trade-article-1.2009086

Ceetar Nov 13 2014 07:37 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Sounds to me like a simple case of heated tempers and that Collins understands as "He's been there"

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2014 07:40 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Telling Terry to go eff himself is probably not a big deal, but ignoring his command to lay down the sacky is, I would think.

cooby Nov 13 2014 07:45 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

My thoughts too, but doing both in one game is too much. Actually any batter that defies the bunt sign is bad enough let alone a pitcher. Shoulda taken him out

Ceetar Nov 13 2014 07:48 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Telling Terry to go eff himself is probably not a big deal, but ignoring his command to lay down the sacky is, I would think. oh, yeah. I happen to agree with Jon as per that strategy though. Also, besides deGrom Niese is their best hitting pitcher, drew more walks than the rest of the staff combined, and has been at least passable with the bat in his career. Otherwise the Mets pitchers as a group are a perfect poster child for DH in the NL and Terry's "play the right way" isn't working.

MFS62 Nov 13 2014 08:06 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

I have questioned Niese's heart, and intimated that he may also lack two another significant anatomical parts. But now is the first time I question his head. Later

Edgy MD Nov 13 2014 08:10 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Thing is, heated tempers in the crucible of competition is one thing, but in your last start of the season, you'd figure to be working with some perspective.

cooby Nov 13 2014 08:12 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Telling Terry to go eff himself is probably not a big deal, but ignoring his command to lay down the sacky is, I would think. oh, yeah. I happen to agree with Jon as per that strategy though. Also, besides deGrom Niese is their best hitting pitcher, drew more walks than the rest of the staff combined, and has been at least passable with the bat in his career. Otherwise the Mets pitchers as a group are a perfect poster child for DH in the NL and Terry's "play the right way" isn't working. Coach is still the boss

Edgy MD Nov 13 2014 08:19 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Yeah, I'm not sure what "Terry's 'play the right way'" is. (A reference to "Just play the game right" as reported in the News article, i guess.) Openly dismissing a marching order and going your own way is going to get you in trouble, no matter who your skipper is. I would imagine that's the right way in every dugout.

Mets Guy in Michigan Nov 13 2014 08:48 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

I spent one Triple-A game in a photo bin that was essentially part of the dugout. The only time since then that I've heard more profanity is when I checked out Kid Rock's "Devil" CD last month. So I suspect this kind of thing happens a lot. Remember the infamous interview of Tommy Lasorda describing the Kingman homer?

Ceetar Nov 13 2014 08:53 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I'm not sure what "Terry's 'play the right way'" is. (A reference to "Just play the game right" as reported in the News article, i guess.) Openly dismissing a marching order and going your own way is going to get you in trouble, no matter who your skipper is. I would imagine that's the right way in every dugout. well, unless you get the hit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2014 08:53 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Why remember it? Let's relive it! [youtube:31wqakvc]LIwrYH6Urbs[/youtube:31wqakvc]

d'Kong76 Nov 13 2014 08:57 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Kong! Jesus Christ! lol

seawolf17 Nov 13 2014 08:59 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

That's one of my favorite pieces of baseball arcana.

d'Kong76 Nov 13 2014 09:13 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

From the other side of the coin, I wonder how many in others in the dugout would like to tell Skip to go funk hisself? Would love to see the video tape.

RealityChuck Nov 13 2014 09:43 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Wow, a baseball player gets pissed off at his manager and swears at him. This is certainly the first time this had happened, and I'm sure Terry will need years of therapy to get over hearing such an offensive word, especially since he undoubtedly never heard anyone use it before, or ever had a player curse at him. This will probably scar him for life! Or longer! Why on Earth is this news?

HahnSolo Nov 13 2014 10:46 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

RealityChuck wrote: Wow, a baseball player gets pissed off at his manager and swears at him. This is certainly the first time this had happened, and I'm sure Terry will need years of therapy to get over hearing such an offensive word, especially since he undoubtedly never heard anyone use it before, or ever had a player curse at him. This will probably scar him for life! Or longer! Why on Earth is this news? We've seen stuff like this before...someone from the team leaked this "story" to Harper. Why, who knows? But it leaves the appearance that someone in the organization wanted to smear Niese, whether that was the intention or not.

Ceetar Nov 13 2014 11:11 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

HahnSolo wrote: RealityChuck wrote: Wow, a baseball player gets pissed off at his manager and swears at him. This is certainly the first time this had happened, and I'm sure Terry will need years of therapy to get over hearing such an offensive word, especially since he undoubtedly never heard anyone use it before, or ever had a player curse at him. This will probably scar him for life! Or longer! Why on Earth is this news? We've seen stuff like this before...someone from the team leaked this "story" to Harper. Why, who knows? But it leaves the appearance that someone in the organization wanted to smear Niese, whether that was the intention or not. Harper wrote it to have that appearance. All he references are "players and coaches who were in the dugout" He could be referencing stuff he overheard in the clubhouse that day. Or he could've asked someone "What did Terry say to Jon there?" No one spoke out against Niese. But yes, we see this every offseason. Not just with the Mets.

Edgy MD Nov 13 2014 11:13 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

I hear you, Hahn, but it's "multiple sources," including "players and coaches." If this was really a whispering campaign from on high to grease the PR skids for a Niese trade, it would be more than silly. I mean, who is going to rend their garments over a Niese trade when everybody knows they have an overfull plate of starting pitching? This isn't R.A. Dickey coming off a Cy Young-winning season.

Mets Guy in Michigan Nov 13 2014 11:21 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

I don't know if it would make sense for someone from the team to leak something in advance of a trade. Would it hurt his value? Then again, there are a lot of players who are jerks -- Reggie! -- and no one cares as long as they produce.

Gwreck Nov 13 2014 01:46 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Another offseason of smearing our players. Remember that RA Dickey, Cy Young Award winner, was too ego-centric? Remember Justin Turner didn't hustle enough? Maybe the Mets will finally get wise to the fact that this sort of childish tactic only makes the fans dislike the organization more. As if such a thing were possible.

Ceetar Nov 13 2014 01:56 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Gwreck wrote: Another offseason of smearing our players. Remember that RA Dickey, Cy Young Award winner, was too ego-centric? Remember Justin Turner didn't hustle enough? Maybe the Mets will finally get wise to the fact that this sort of childish tactic only makes the fans dislike the organization more. As if such a thing were possible. And what? stop speaking to the media? ban all coaches, players and executives from speaking?

Edgy MD Nov 13 2014 02:08 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Yeah, I'm far away from seeing a tactic.

G-Fafif Nov 13 2014 02:11 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Terry Collins says it isn't so. When asked about the Daily News report (which GM Sandy Alderson also addressed on Thursday), here's what he had to say about Niese shouting an expletive-filled phrase on the bench: "That's not true. Jon Niese and I have an argument every time he pitches, whether he should come out or stay in. What was said, it's not true. There would have been a major issue had that been said. I don't know where that came from. ... In two months, a lot of things can be changed. The next day, the facts are out there. You can call Jon Niese and he will also tell you he didn't say that. If he had, there would have been an issue on the bench." But was there a confrontation about Niese swinging away instead of bunting, as he was told to do? Collins confirmed it. "He was mad, yeah, I told him to get the bunt down," Collins said. "As you'd expect, [Niese said] 'I'm trying to get the [expletive] bunt down.' Yeah, there were some words." Collins later added that after the game, he told Niese, "We're done, right? This is over." The pitcher said, "Absolutely," and told Collins he was planning on coming to talk to the manager anyway. "No player in my 40 years has ever said that to me," he said, before adding, "to my face."

Edgy MD Nov 13 2014 02:20 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

"To my forehead, maybe. Some have said it to the top of my scalp. I'm pretty sure Jon Rauch said it once to the wall behind me, but never to my face."

metirish Nov 13 2014 06:00 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Why remember it? Let's relive it! [youtube]LIwrYH6Urbs[/youtube] Oh fuck, laughing hard here , Jesus Christ , just the way he even says that ....

d'Kong76 Nov 13 2014 06:42 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

He's pretty entertaining. Never really liked him, but it's hard to find hat for him.

Zvon Nov 13 2014 07:17 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Edgy MD wrote: "To my forehead, maybe. Some have said it to the top of my scalp. I'm pretty sure Jon Rauch said it once to the wall behind me, but never to my face." real big lol

metirish Nov 13 2014 07:54 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Harper will be on Hot Stove at 10

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 13 2014 08:42 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

metirish wrote: Harper will be on Hot Stove at 10 Strapped to one would be best.

metirish Nov 13 2014 09:26 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

LOL...yeah he basically stood by what he wrote but gave Terry the out , they must have passed each other in the studio as both were there, I only watched as I was watching the Leiter complete game shutout against the Brewers from 1998 , Piazza debut, Fucking Burnitz swinging for the fences the whole game... Miss Shea a lot

Vic Sage Nov 15 2014 06:23 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

The Mets tradition of throwing players under the bus before trading them continues... according to this guy: http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/ ... er=ya5nbcs

Edgy MD Nov 15 2014 07:01 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Compete with a shot of Niese laying on the pavement.

Edgy MD Nov 15 2014 07:04 AM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Rubin's report came out a week after Turner was non-tendered. The one who needs to hustle more is Calcaterra.

Edgy MD Apr 03 2015 11:08 PM Re: Jon Niese, Bridge Burner

Still waiting for that Niese deal to go down, Craig Calcaterra.