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CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

Doctor Strange

9 votes

Iron Fist

4 votes

Edgy MD Nov 27 2014 08:37 PM

Here's a couple a Marvel dudes who went to Orient and picked up some skills. They meet here in the Gods and the Occult bracket in the Marvel Conference. [fimg=300]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/48480/1261143-dr_strange_by_yamao.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=300]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_small/3/33913/745563-55_immortal_iron_fist_27.jpg[/fimg] Name: Doctor Strange Name: Iron Fist AKA: Dr. Stephen Vincent Strange, Stephen Sanders, Vincent Stevens AKA: Danny Rand, Daniel Thomas Rand-K'ai, Daredevil, Daniel Thomas Rand, the Living Weapon, Young Dragon Creator(s): Steve Ditko Creator(s): Roy Thomas, Gil Kane Origin: Philadelphia, PA Origin: Unrevealed Base of Operations: Greenwich Village, New York, NY Base of Operations: New York, NY Teams: New Avengers, Defenders Teams: New Avengers, Heroes for Hire, Defenders Signature Lines: "By the sands that time has shifted, By the Winds of weird Watoomb, Let the masking veil be lifted, Though it means a demon's doom! " Signature Lines: "Oh! My name is Daniel Rand. I am Iron Fist and I know kung fu. Hi-yahh." Arch-Enemy: Baron Mordo Arch-Enemy: Master Khan Paramour(s): Clea Paramour Misty Knight Once Played By: Benedict Cumberbatch Once Played By: Mikey Kelley Could Have Been Played By: Vincent Price Could Have Been Played By: Marky Mark Song I Think Of: "People Are Strange" Song I Think Of: "Fist City" Powers: Dude is brilliant, a skilled martial artist, and a master surgeon. (Some "doctors" in the comics are actually doctors!) More importantly, he's a very skilled necromancer. He channels his magic through spiritual entities and mystical objects, such as his cloak of levvy-tation, which allows him to fly. Also a mentalist able to do telephaty and hypnosis. Powers: Other people who I've described as having expert-level hand-to-hand combat or martial arts skills? That's crap. This guy BRINGS IT. He not only trained with the master of masters, but he has plunged his fists "into the molten heart of the dragon Shou-Lao the Undying." Not the sort of thing to leave a man unchanged. For Danny, it means super strength, speed, stamina, durability, agility, reflexes and senses. Packs a mean punch. He can also heal himself or link with others telepathically. Weaknesses: He's a human. If you can get past his magic, you can tear him a new one. He needs to speak, generally, to perform his magic, so if you can somehow shut him up, you're gold. Also, it is said that his magic is less effective up against science and high tech. Weaknesses: Summoning the chi power to throw iron-hard punches leaves him drained afterwards, and he needs to rest.

Fman99 Nov 27 2014 08:48 PM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

I am, predictably, a big fan of Mr. Fist.

Zvon Nov 27 2014 09:05 PM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

I can't vote for a comic book super hero who has no origin.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 27 2014 10:35 PM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

These guys both have richer-than-a-Thanksgiving-dessert-table backstories; though Rand's raised-by-monks-after-his-father-is-murdered-by-his-business-partner bit isn't without appeal, I prefer the guy who traveled a longer road, character-development-wise, to get where he is now (Strange's tortured adolescence-to-brilliant-scientist-to-terrible-person-to-car-accident-to-addict-to-accidental-sorcerer path makes for maybe the hardest-won heroic wisdom in the funny books). Besides, Iron Fist may be the kung-fu-truth and one hell of a Hire-able Hero, but Strange is THE be-all/end-all in Earth's mystical defense plan; if Dormammu or Mephisto is doing some terrestrial damage, are you going to call the guy who's rubbing his hands together to stay warm in Hell's Kitchen? (Definitive Doc Strange, and underrated Bronze Age Marvel: the Englehart/Brunner or Colan run in the '70s.)

Edgy MD Nov 28 2014 04:56 AM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

Zvon wrote: I can't vote for a comic book super hero who has no origin. This may just be my failed research. I use "origin" in the sense of "place of birth." He certainly has an origin in the sense of a story of how he came to be who he came to be.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 28 2014 05:50 AM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

Doctor Strange. I was never really into his own title (except for that Gene Colon run mentioned above) mainly because I tend to be unsatisfied by stories with too much magic in them. I do like Dr. Strange as a supporting character in other titles, though, and he added a lot of color to the Defenders. I've read very few stories, on the other hand, with Iron Fist in them. Martial arts stories are even less appealing to me than stories about magic are.

Vic Sage Nov 28 2014 06:51 AM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

Dr. Strange was another foundational character for me. Among the stack of silver age comics left me by my college-bound brothers were a number of issues of Strange Tales from #135 to 168, which housed stories featuring Steranko's take on Nick Fury and Steve Ditko's Dr. Strange. I'll talk about Fury in another thread, but Stephen Strange was a revelation to my 7-year old mind. After hitting it big with Spider-Man, Steve Ditko conceived a character based in eastern mysticism and philosophy, with similarities to the story of LOST HORIZON. Overcoming his own personal shortcomings and tragedies, Stephen Strange would take on the defense of his teacher, The Ancient One, and then our whole dimension, in stories that depicted mind-bending, surreal landscapes, with Stan Lee's scripts providing a Lovecraftian vocabulary and rogue's gallery that were literally the stuff of nightmare. And the hands... Ditko's hands. Those attenuated digits, splayed at inhuman angles, allowed the master of the mystic arts to summon magical forces heretofore unimaginable by the human mind. And it was all in the hands. I, too, was enamored of the subsequent run by Roy Thomas and Gene Colan, but Colan's imagery shifted away from Ditko's psychadelic landscapes to dark, shadowy worlds of horror. While i loved Colan's style on other titles, like Daredevil and Dracula, i felt his interpretation diminished some aspects of Ditko's whacked out imagination. And giving him a mask? Uh uh. I also liked the subsequent run by Steve Englehart and Frank Brunner in Marvel Premiere, which heightened Strange's cosmic storytelling elements. Still, Strange was always a bit of a fringe character at Marvel, having his titles cancelled with some regularity. But I think it was his run as the founder of the Defenders that actually established him more in the mainstream of the MarvelVerse. Iron Fist? Yeah, i liked his 70s run with Luke Cage, but this is no contest for me.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 28 2014 09:07 AM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

The newer Avengers/Ultimate titles have used Iron Fist a little more than he's been employed Marvel Universe-wide in the past, but even then... he's not a terribly dynamic character. Strange is great in team/super-team-up stories, not just as the mystical counterpoint to more earthbound/energy-based types, but also as somebody who often feels compelled to be the grown-up in the room-- an authority figure whose previous arrogance issues/hard-won humility leave him feeling conflicted about exerting that authority.

Vic Sage Nov 28 2014 10:06 AM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

Nymr83 Nov 28 2014 01:18 PM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

i remember the good doctor for his cameos in x-men more than anything, but he is a cool character. i dont think i've read the first guy even once

Edgy MD Dec 10 2014 02:43 PM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

Dr. Strange. Always bet on a dude from the Village.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 10 2014 02:53 PM Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Doctor Strange vs. Iron Fist

That was closer than it shoulda been!