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CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter


Spawn 9 votes

Cutter 5 votes

Edgy MD
Dec 09 2014 05:48 PM

Listen, the indies are calling you. You want vigilantes in flowing capes? Sure you do! I do, too! But sometimes, to get there, you've got to decide between demons and elves. That's just the way that shit goes down.

So, PLEASE, from the Indie Occult/Fantasy Bracket in the DC/Indie Conference, give a warm Crane Pool Welcome to, Spawn and Cutter!

[fimg=350]http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140716050851/youtubepoopbr/images/d/d3/Spawn.jpg[/fimg][fimg=350]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfc912uvE1r1nww3.jpg[/fimg]
Name:SpawnName:Cutter
AKA:Albert Francis "Al" Simmons, The One, HellspawnAKA:Eleventh Chief of the Wolfriders, I think
Creator(s):Todd McFarlaneCreator(s):Wendy Pini, Richard Pini
Place of Birth:Detroit, MIPlace of Birth:Abode
How He Came to Be:Operating black ops for the CIA, he begins questioning the morality of his assignments. The agency has him killed in an inferno, and he sure-nuff goes to Hell. But he makes a deal with a demon to return to earth with the demon's body. This is also my plan to escape my damnation.How She Came to Be:I guess he succeeded the 10th Chief, killed in battle
Base of Operations:Hell, MobileBase of Operations:Mobile, Sorrow's End
Teams:None. Though he worked with the CIA back in his mortal days.Teams:The Wolfriders
Signature Lines:"Someone's gonna DIE for this!"Signature Lines:"Even the stars make room for new stars."
Arch-Enemy:MammonArch-Enemy:Rayek
Sidekick(s):NyxSidekick(s):Skywise
Paramour(s):Wanda SimmonsParamourLeetah
Has Been Played By:Michael Jai WhiteOnce Played By:Nobody
Could Have Been Played By:Dwayne "The Rock" JohnsonCould Have Been Played By:uhhh… James Van Der Beek?
Song I Think Of:"Turkish Song of the Damned"Song I Think Of:"Strutter"
Powers:Spawn is a demon with a hellacious sense of vengeance and marine/CIA training and that's a combination not to take lightly. He has the superhuman package of super strength, super speed, super agility, super endurance, and flight, of course. While he's not invulnerable, he has advanced healing abilities and immortality, so scoring points against him mostly just pisses him off more. His skill set includes tactics, hand-to-hand fightin', marksmanship, and weapons training. That's just the brute stuff. He can teleport, shape shift, and shoot energy blasts. He's dead, so he can come back from the dead. He's an empath, too, and has more powers I don't know about and some he doesn't know about.Powers:He's got a psychic bond with his wolf and those he's closest to. He's a dauntless leader, with an elvin skill set. You know, at one with the elements and that stuff. He's a visionary leader, who doesn't need a lot of clothes. Obscenely long lived, he can go also go into a cocoon and sleep for centuries. Good with a blade.
Weaknesses:His costume is a living entity, and he's sometimes got to fight it for control of their symbiotic relationship. He doesn't have much power over creatures from The Green WorldWeaknesses:He's emotional, and young for a leader. He's got a nomadic band he leads, and that's a heavy burden. Elves live almost forever, but while time can't get them, bloodshed can.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 09 2014 05:53 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

When I saw "Cutter" I had NO idea who that was, but yes, I remember Elfquest. I liked it more than I ever liked Spawn, so Cutter (although I still don't remember the character) gets my vote.

Edgy MD
Dec 09 2014 06:09 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

Spawn is hard to capture with a single picture. He's just got too much visual information happening.

Cutty, on the other hand, is deeply weird. All the art shows him as both highly sexualized and highly infantalized, which creeps me out. Both seem to represent a sort of arrested development, which I guess is what comics can do at their worst. Spawn gets my reluctant vote.

Fman99
Dec 09 2014 08:29 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

I'm voting for the guy who's not a femme wolf banger.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 09 2014 09:59 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

Edgy MD wrote:
Spawn is hard to capture with a single picture. He's just got too much visual information happening.

Cutty, on the other hand, is deeply weird. All the art shows him as both highly sexualized and highly infantalized, which creeps me out. Both seem to represent a sort of arrested development, which I guess is what comics can do at their worst. Spawn gets my reluctant vote.


Professor X, Hank Pym, John Constantine, and Elektra are out of this tournament (with Wolverine teetering on the precipice), and we're going to be advancing either creepy kid-sexy elf king or a guy who was basically created so that Todd MacFarlane could draw totally "adult" stuff and, like, totally badass living capes. Feh.

Vic Sage
Dec 10 2014 08:00 AM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

I share you opinion of SPAWN, but regardless of what you and I think of him, he is a successful character across a range of media. And Elfquest, while relatively obscure, is one of the best fantasy sagas ever depicted in 4 color pamphlets.

I get shit when the big boys took blew out patsies in round 1, and now where some perceived lesser characters advance over better liked ones. But it will all come out in the wash. Justice will ultimately prevail.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 10 2014 08:07 AM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

As I recall, Elfquest was originally in black and white, and didn't get "colorized" until it was later reprinted by Marvel.

Vic Sage
Dec 10 2014 08:17 AM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

As I recall, Elfquest was originally in black and white, and didn't get "colorized" until it was later reprinted by Marvel.


Yes, it was originally B&W but it was reprinted almost immediately in full-color compilations, before Marvel republished the original series. Those compilations were where i first discovered the series.

Richard & Wendy Pini's ELFQUEST was one of those black/white self-published books of the late 70s-early 80s, like CEREBUS and BONE, that put independent publishing on the map. There are also number of prose novels and short story collections in the Elfquest universe which i recommend to fantasy readers .

WaRP put their stuff online for free [in color!]here: http://elfquest.com/gallery/OnlineComics3.php

Ceetar
Dec 10 2014 08:48 AM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

I like Spawn. Of course, he was created during my formative years. The 5-6 years I was actually into comics and what not. drawn by a former Spider-Man guy. I have the first 20 issues in a box somewhere.

The demon/suit is also currently not Al Simmons but Jim Downing. I'm not quite sure what happened because I haven't been reading all along, but the last two issues dealt with vampires, the suit infecting Jim's girlfriend, and claim Al is back in the 500th issue.

anyway, go Spawn.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 10 2014 12:00 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

Vic Sage wrote:
I share you opinion of SPAWN, but regardless of what you and I think of him, he is a successful character across a range of media. And Elfquest, while relatively obscure, is one of the best fantasy sagas ever depicted in 4 color pamphlets.

I get shit when the big boys took blew out patsies in round 1, and now where some perceived lesser characters advance over better liked ones. But it will all come out in the wash. Justice will ultimately prevail.


Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Not bitching seriously... just bitching.

Because I grew up around Spawn, I'm voting against Spawn.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 10 2014 12:11 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

I read the first few issues of Spawn and then bailed. Todd McFarlane is an interesting artist (I like the way he drew full moons during his time on Incredible Hulk) but I grew tired of him. (And the story didn't grab me either.) He seems to overwork too many of the images he draws. (Spider-Man's webs, for example.) I think I once read where someone said that McFarlane's drawings were like he was masturbating all over the page.





(I think there were better examples of McFarlane's full moon, but this is the best I could find.)




Look at all those webs. I'll have to see if I can find that quote I mentioned above, but that overworked webbing is like looking at McFarlane's semen stains.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 10 2014 12:15 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

I loved his art style in the Marvel books for a while... but then, I was 10 and really into masturbating.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 10 2014 12:20 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

At ten! Wow! You were a masturbating prodigy!

Edgy MD
Jan 15 2015 04:41 PM
Re: CPF WotS, Rd. 1: Spawn vs. Cutter

Catching up here: Undead guy beats scary sexy baby elf boy.