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Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2015 11:40 AM

Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 · 6m 6 minutes ago #Mets expect trade SP, likely Gee, next 7-10 days But might need Shields signed 1st. #sfgiants like Gee, but have to know if getting Shields

Edgy MD Jan 13 2015 11:47 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Not quite certain I understand. 1. Am I to understand the Mets are trading Gee to free up room and salary to add James Shields? 2. Or is it that the Giants don't want to trade for Gee until they know Shields is no longer an option for them? 3. Or perhaps, the Mets and Giants are close, but both sides are niggling on the deal, and hoping the ultimate signing of Shields will clarify for both just what a Gee is worth. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN, SHERMAN?!

Benjamin Grimm Jan 13 2015 11:55 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

My guess is that it's this: "2. Or is it that the Giants don't want to trade for Gee until they know Shields is no longer an option for them?"

Ceetar Jan 13 2015 11:59 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

My guess is that it's this: "2. Or is it that the Giants don't want to trade for Gee until they know Shields is no longer an option for them?" Some mumblings about how the Mets should sign Shields. Hell, if it bumps up the value for Gee it's even better.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 13 2015 12:05 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

I don't imagine that they're going to do that, but if they do, then they'll also probably want to trade Niese or Colon in addition to Gee.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 13 2015 12:11 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Yeah, 2. I think Sherm says the Giants like Gee but might not get him if Shields comes to them at the right price. If Shields goes and signs with some other club, Giants get hotter for G. I don;t think the Mets want or need Shields.

Ceetar Jan 13 2015 12:34 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, 2. I think Sherm says the Giants like Gee but might not get him if Shields comes to them at the right price. If Shields goes and signs with some other club, Giants get hotter for G. I don;t think the Mets want or need Shields. It's just one of the creative solutions people are so drawn to. The idea being if you can't upgrade SS/offense, upgrade run prevention (which also makes bad defense up the middle less damaging?) . And also hoard even more arms in a supply and demand sense. Now you're dealing from an even bigger position of strength when demanding a SS. It's not a horrible one, does seem unlikely though.

Nymr83 Jan 13 2015 02:50 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

The only problem with that idea is that you are probably degrading the trade value of any non-prospect age pitcher who you yank from the rotation because clubs dont get recent tape of him pitching every 5th day and coming out of the pen isnt the same.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 13 2015 06:41 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

I like the Shields/Scherzer idea, frankly. At this point, I'd probably rather slightly overpay in money for one of them than overpay in money/prospects for one of the flawed shortstop options out there. Waylon Flowers and Kenny think others may be in on the Gee-stakes.

Gwreck Jan 13 2015 09:46 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I like the Shields/Scherzer idea, frankly. At this point, I'd probably rather slightly overpay in money for one of them than overpay in money/prospects for one of the flawed shortstop options out there. There's a lot of logic here. I worry a lot less about Flores' defense if Scherzer is striking out 12 batters a game. In all seriousness, there's a LOT of logic to signing Scherzer. Get the best available player (especially in a year when our first round pick has been lost) and worry about having too many starters later.

Edgy MD Jan 14 2015 07:39 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Happy G-Day Minus 6-9.

Vic Sage Jan 14 2015 10:06 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

it's never a bad idea to get a great player if you think he still has more future greatness in him.

Edgy MD Jan 15 2015 07:53 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Five-eight more days of Geeness. Use it wisely!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 15 2015 10:52 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

I don't think we'll decorate this year, but I'll be happy just so long as my neighbors don't leave their Gee strings up again all January.

Frayed Knot Jan 17 2015 06:29 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

NY Post -- The Giants, Padres and Rockies have all been mentioned as potential landing spots for the right-hander, but a source indicated at least one AL team has shown interest.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 17 2015 06:35 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

three to six days left!

Centerfield Jan 18 2015 04:40 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

It pisses me off that they look to be just dumping Gee. He is not an All-Star, but he is a serviceable starter, and not a piece to be discarded. I hope that they really are getting something back and not just looking to unload salary.

Edgy MD Jan 18 2015 04:56 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

You'll find out in two-five days!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 18 2015 07:09 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

If they were dumping him expressly for salary purposes, it would have been done by now, no?

Ashie62 Jan 18 2015 07:16 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Still believe Gee will be a Met.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 18 2015 07:25 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: If they were dumping him expressly for salary purposes, it would have been done by now, no? Not necessarily. First of all, baseball's still in that off-season period where teams don't have to pay their players. So if the Mets truly are over budget, they still won't feel that pinch. Also, even if the Mets are looking to trade Gee for a player who'll make close to the minimum, if even that, they still want to obtain the best player possible, even if circumstances limit their options. Also, assuming the Mets need to reduce their current payroll level, their salary dump might not necessarily be evident simply from their pending Gee trade. We'll need to look at all of their upcoming trades in totality to determine whether they might be dumping salary. It might be easier to simply look at their payroll a few months from now to come to any conclusions.

Ceetar Jan 19 2015 08:34 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

If it was strictly about payroll reduction I'm unsure of why they'd sign Cuddyer instead of just trading Gee, whenever that is, for an OFer? I mean hell, there's probably a Cuddyer type player out there that someone would offload for Gee.

Edgy MD Jan 19 2015 09:09 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Bring on Dexter Fowler!

Edgy MD Jan 20 2015 09:54 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

The problem with Geetrading is that the signing of Scherzer was supposed to tighten up the pitching market as teams rush after next-best options. But by Scherzer signing with an already pitching-rich team, it ends up likely sending somebody (possibly Jordan Zimmerman) into the trade market to compete with Gee.

sharpie Jan 20 2015 11:53 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

However, with Ryan Vogelsong going to the 'Stros, then the Giants have a real need to find another starter and that is one of the teams to which Gee seems to be mentioned in the same breath as.

Edgy MD Jan 20 2015 12:00 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Down to 0-3 days! This could happen today!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 21 2015 11:12 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Zero to 2 days left!

d'Kong76 Jan 21 2015 11:39 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Ashie62 Jan 21 2015 02:51 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Yes, pack for St. Lucie.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 21 2015 11:17 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

It's getting so close to happening or not happening or not happening for right now!

d'Kong76 Jan 22 2015 02:38 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

So, is this happening tomorrow or it expires tomorrow and it could happen over the weekend?

Edgy MD Jan 22 2015 02:45 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Joel Sherman's cred is on the line! Well, half on the line. Shields is still hovering out there and Joelmon said Shields' availability was what was holding up any Geetrading.

Frayed Knot Jan 22 2015 02:45 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

WAHH, we were promised that Gee would be traded for a superstar by this point. Lied to again!!

d'Kong76 Jan 22 2015 03:46 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Gee, silly us

Ashie62 Jan 22 2015 06:36 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Matt Harvey and deGrom are Tommy John survivors so maybe you want to keep all these pitchers.

d'Kong76 Jan 22 2015 06:42 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

They can't afford him, pay attention

A Boy Named Seo Jan 22 2015 06:57 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

I thought we still had 0-1 day for this to go down.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2015 07:18 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Yup, tomorrow (Friday) is Trade Gee By Today Day.

d'Kong76 Jan 22 2015 07:27 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Woo-hoodle! I won't be able to sleep!!

Edgy MD Jan 22 2015 08:59 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

This is sorta 1990 all over. They had six starters then, and Cashen spent all offseason trying to move one, but couldn't find his price. They went through spring not knowing every day if someone would be dealt off, while Johnson delayed a decision about who would be demoted to the bullpen. Unfortunately sticking with his never-rewarded faith in Aguilera, he decided to open the season with Darling in the pen, promising that he would get starts as the season progressed, and Ojeda spent some time in the pen. You might'v figured that someone would get injured and it would sort itself out. But nobody did, and Ojeda and Darling alternated a month in and and a month out of the rotation. Both were miserable, unable to find a groove, and feeling their careers slipping away a little earlier than they may have expected. Both had their worst seasons as Mets, with Ojeda openly admitting to drinking hard and driving his bike all night (hopefully not at the same time). I have no problem if they keep Gee and use him as the alternative starter. Redundancy is great, but they're not exactly flying blind without him, having the number 10 prospect in all of baseball waiting in the wings with 26 AAA starts already under his belt, and Montero and possibly Gorski or Mazzoni before you get to him. There's even talk about opening the season with Montero in the MLB bullpen, ready to step in and start as needed. They may trade Gee and they made trade Gee for future, rather than present, assets (and therefore cheaper ones), but they clearly want to move a pitcher because a number-six pitcher who could be number-three on another team is a luxury that's worth more to that other team than to the Mets.

Ashie62 Jan 30 2015 08:09 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Guy from MLB.com says its' imminent.

d'Kong76 Jan 30 2015 08:24 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Link? See no Gee on Emm Ell Bee.

Edgy MD Jan 30 2015 08:35 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Anthony DiComo tweets nothing is close.

d'Kong76 Jan 31 2015 07:33 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Ashie62 wrote: Guy from MLB.com says its' imminent. Still no mention of Gee news on MLB. Explain yourself.

d'Kong76 Jan 31 2015 07:45 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

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Ashie62 Feb 01 2015 12:33 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Edgy MD wrote: Anthony DiComo tweets nothing is close. I misread it as "is close" off Rotoworld. Sorry!

d'Kong76 Feb 01 2015 12:49 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

The only Gee news on Rotoworld is from the middle of Jan when they regurgitated the Joel trade story and the Adam avoiding-arbitration story.

Ashie62 Feb 02 2015 10:46 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

You are a mean spirited person KC

d'Kong76 Feb 02 2015 11:02 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Lol, and you're The Golden Child!

A Boy Named Seo Feb 09 2015 09:15 AM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

So with Shields landing in San Diego, do we re-start the Dillon Gee trade clock now? Is a surplus Washington starter now the new James Shields? Will Dillon Gee ever be traded? Does anyone want Dillon Gee on their team anyway? Does all this trade talk hurt Dillon Gee's feelings? Was Dillon Gee's chin merkin the worst facial hair in the history of the franchise?

Ashie62 Feb 09 2015 06:24 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

We may need Gee when Niese's arm falls off.

Frayed Knot Feb 16 2015 12:28 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Marc Carig, Newday, tweets: Unless an opportunity presents itself (injury in another camp), the Mets won't be pursuing a trade for one of their pitchers.

Ceetar Feb 16 2015 12:37 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Ashie62 wrote: We may need Gee when Niese's arm falls off. Isn't Gee's arm equally as torn?

Edgy MD Feb 16 2015 12:54 PM Re: Gee, it's been great but you have 7-10 days to pack

Well two such arms are better than one, no?