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Prospect Porn, 2015
Edgy MD Jan 22 2015 09:54 AM |
MLB.com has Noah Syndegaard as the #2 right-hand pitching prospect... in all of beisbol.
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Edgy MD Jan 22 2015 08:16 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
And Matz the #8 left-handed pitching prospect.
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Frayed Knot Jan 23 2015 09:36 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Kevin Plawecki = #6 catcher
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A Boy Named Seo Jan 23 2015 10:17 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Anyone else a little surprised that Noah is #2?
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Frayed Knot Jan 23 2015 10:26 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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As in "only" #2? Nah. Lucas Giolito, the guy ahead of him on that list, was going to be the #1 overall draft pick the year he came out until arm problems got in the way. The Nationals were gutsy enough to take him with their first pick (16th overall - 2012) and he almost immediately required TJ surgery (they did the same thing again this year). But he's bounced back very well from it and is considered to have a higher ceiling than Syndergaard even though Thor is closer to ready compared to the guy who hasn't reached High-A ball yet. Those kinds of calls where you're comparing someone with a higher projection vs the one who's passed all the hurdles already are pretty much a toss-up.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 23 2015 10:58 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
I would imagine that the slightly-lower-ceiling would be more than made up for by the closeness to the majors/lack of arm issues thus far, but hey, YMMV.
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Edgy MD Jan 23 2015 02:07 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Dominic Smith (first last year) is listed fourth among first basemen.
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Frayed Knot Jan 23 2015 03:00 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Kind of surprised that Smith remained that high with just 1 HR in 400+ ABs at a lower level league - even if he's still young for that level and playing in a home park w/a rep for killing lefty hitting.
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Edgy MD Jan 23 2015 04:49 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Strikes me as a little bit of self-coverage, as well as self-reference. They had Smith at the top of the list last year, so they can't knock him off completely despite his punchless 2014. They have to remain at least a little bullish, lest they undermine their own credibility.
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Ashie62 Jan 23 2015 06:04 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Baseball America Top 10 by organization dated 1/21
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MFS62 Jan 24 2015 06:23 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
The minor league organization had the highest winning percentage, as in #1.
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Edgy MD Jan 24 2015 07:51 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
That's key. Talented players, used to winning.
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Edgy MD Jan 26 2015 02:02 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
The winning streak continues, as Dilson skids in at #4 among all second basemen.
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Frayed Knot Jan 26 2015 02:30 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
One cool thing about that 2B list is that Dilson is the 3rd youngest of the ten (one is younger by just a few weeks, the other by about a year + 1/2) but the only one to reach the majors so far.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 26 2015 09:13 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
He just skates in, based on still being RotY-eligible (just 59 PAs last year, owing to the September quad strain).
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Frayed Knot Jan 27 2015 10:25 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Streak ends with the 3rd base crew.
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Edgy MD Jan 27 2015 10:33 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
BOOOO!! Prospect wachers H8 the Mets!!1!1!
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Edgy MD Jan 28 2015 04:19 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Cecchini, Rosario, Reynolds, et al. fail to defend Mets honor in the shortstop category. Boooo....!
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 29 2015 08:58 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
WAITWAITWAIT... are you telling me we've got some sort of shortstop deficit?
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Edgy MD Jan 29 2015 09:47 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
And Law names his Hot 100.
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Frayed Knot Jan 29 2015 12:03 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
The absence of Matz in particular is surprising and I suspect will be the exception rather than the rule as other lists start to appear.
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Vic Sage Jan 30 2015 08:45 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 30 2015 08:48 AM |
2019 LINEUP
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 30 2015 08:47 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
I'd be absolutely shocked if Harvey were a Met in 2019. Scott Boras will take him into free agency after 2018, and he'll be gone. I think the wise move will be to trade him after the 2016 season.
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Edgy MD Jan 30 2015 08:58 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
I'd be less than shocked. I mean... somebody is gonna get paid eventually. It wouldn't be surprising if he gets a deal that pays him big in his last few years of team control and then gives them back two of his free-agency-eligible years.
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A Boy Named Seo Jan 30 2015 09:14 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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I can't believe we're this close to Opening Day 2k19 and effing management is seriously considering going with Uhrena at third.
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Edgy MD Jan 30 2015 09:31 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
A lot of starters sliding happily over to the bench like it's the 1970s all over again.
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Benjamin Grimm Jan 30 2015 09:37 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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I honestly don't know. It would be heartening to find an example or two.
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batmagadanleadoff Jan 30 2015 10:21 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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Sounds reasonable to me. Maybe that's why the Mets appear so reluctant to trade some of their surplus high-ceiling pitching right now --- because they already figure Harvey's gonna be the one to cut loose.
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A Boy Named Seo Jan 30 2015 10:43 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
The 'Matt Harvey 2k15 IPP' thread is gonna be a good'n.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 30 2015 10:54 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
My $$ on Big Fat Disappointment, emphasis on "Fat."
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 30 2015 11:05 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
HOW THE F*CKING F*CK DO YOU BAT ROSARIO EIGHTH, WALLY
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Frayed Knot Jan 30 2015 12:36 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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[fimg=350]http://www.dnamagazine.com.au/media/0/62549/2/julyMatt%20Harvey1.jpg[/fimg] "Who you calling FAT?"
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Frayed Knot Jan 31 2015 06:30 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
MLB.com's Top-100
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jan 31 2015 10:32 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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Now I see why the thread is called "prospect porn."
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Edgy MD Feb 04 2015 01:05 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Rosario and Smith make MLB.com's supplemental list.
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Vic Sage Feb 04 2015 01:40 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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There is a parallel reality in the multiverse where this has already happened.
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Edgy MD Feb 04 2015 01:46 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Caleb's still only 32. I say we give him a minor league deal.
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Frayed Knot Feb 04 2015 01:50 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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Which makes it five in the top 100, and seven in the top 120 where the norms would be about 3 and 4. Certainly encouraging, even if tempered a bit by the fact that, after getting past Syndergaard, the rest are in the back half of that list.
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Edgy MD Feb 04 2015 02:02 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
The interesting part to me are Matz's upward trend, as some have more trust in him putting the injuries and missed time behind him, and Montero's downward trend, as some are more concerned about his initial MLB misfires than others.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 10 2015 01:25 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Them eggheads over at 'em Baseball Prospectus sez'um of 'eir top hundred-and-one:
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 10 2015 01:33 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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Jonathan "Hold The" Mayo of MLB.com lists RHP Gabriel Ynoa as a "sleeper" prospect:
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Frayed Knot Feb 10 2015 02:05 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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In the Q&A for that list they go a bit toward explaining the Syndergaard vs [Nats prospect Lucas] Giolito face-off as to which gets the 'best RHP prospect in baseball' title (a question that came up earlier in this thread -- although BP throws Dylan Bundy into the mix as well) Q -- It seems clear that no other pitching prospect can touch Giolito's upside, but I wonder why Syndergaard's close-to-major-league-readiness and lack of injury history wouldn't make him the top pitching prospect in baseball. A: -- More of a testament to Giolitto's immense upside and the fact that we don't view him as being as far away from contributing as his recent usage might indicate. Thor is a dude, no question.
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Nymr83 Feb 11 2015 06:48 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Keith Law doesnt like Matz but likes some other Met more than most, this is his Mets top 10 wit their overall rank in parenthesis...
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 16 2015 10:20 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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BP really likes us, slotting Metsie just behind the Cubs, Twins and Rangers, and ahead of highly-touted systems like Colorado, Pittsburgh and Boston.
Their writers peg the Nats at 11 (based mostly on Giolito's sky-high ceiling) and the rest of the division in/near the bottom third of baseball.
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Edgy MD Feb 16 2015 12:14 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Bring on the golden age.
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Frayed Knot Feb 18 2015 06:25 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Lots of scouting reports for NYM prospects courtesy of the folks at Fangraphs
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 18 2015 09:42 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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Been camping out on that site for the last two months... LOVE the detail and-- especially-- the organizational depth. I mean, they're beyond Blake Taylor/Brosher territory, hipdeep into Gizeeyevenevurrhurduff Swamp. Especially fun for slightly-more-realistic speculating on potential Gee trades (From the Rangers*, e.g.-- NOT getting Profar/Odor; maybe on, say, Sardinas or Ti'Quan Forbes). *Probably mooted now, granted
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 19 2015 08:59 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
You thought Baseball Prospectus was up in our bid'ness, players? Baseball America be all up in Metly bid'ness.
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Edgy MD Feb 19 2015 09:18 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Matz is all over the board, i'n't he?
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MFS62 Feb 20 2015 06:33 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Mets in the BA top 100, as reported on the MLB network:
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 20 2015 07:26 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
oh well whatever nevermind
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Edgy MD Feb 20 2015 07:50 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Not only is Syndergaard the #11 prospect according to Baseball Prospectus, but a publication called BP has ranked a Mets prospect named Thor in their 11th slot.
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Frayed Knot Feb 20 2015 08:05 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
My mash-up of four* prospect lists: BA, BP, MLB (Mayo) and ESPN (Law), finds NYM prospects at --
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MFS62 Feb 20 2015 08:15 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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My post was about Baseball America, not Baseball Prospectus. And earlier reports I heard had BA having six players in their top 100. According to the MLB report, BA had seven. That's why the repost. And BA is not BP. Later
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Edgy MD Feb 20 2015 08:20 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Yes, I know it's not the same. My post was meant satirically to point out that the same news was being posted more than once.
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Benjamin Grimm Feb 20 2015 08:24 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
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These two posts sure look the same to me.
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MFS62 Feb 20 2015 08:32 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Yep. You're right. Missed it. (insert blushing emoticon here)
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Frayed Knot Feb 23 2015 10:20 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
From the Q&A session following BA's Top-100
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Frayed Knot Jun 25 2015 07:42 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Conforto & Matz declared to be 'Studs' on BA's mid-season 'Studs & Duds' report.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 25 2015 08:28 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
I'm like, almost totally okay at this point to make Cuddy the righthanded pinch hitter we need and throw this kid out there. I know there a million reasons not to do that now including one I read somewhere that suggested Conforto still need to work on his D to be an effective ML player, but geez.
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Edgy MD Jun 25 2015 08:40 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
I'm tempted, too. Cuddy's sunburn (to say nothing of his productivity) sure makes him look too used up to handle the daily grind. Terry's usage sure seems to suggest he's concerned, too.
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Frayed Knot Jun 25 2015 08:47 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Wright had 406 PAs in the 'higher' minors prior to his call-up; 272 at AA, 134 at AAA
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 25 2015 11:53 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
GOOD NEWS! We'll be seeing Conforto on a major-league stage well before August! Nimmo, too.
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Frayed Knot Jun 26 2015 08:00 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
There's been a Michael Fulmer sighting.
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Frayed Knot Jul 07 2015 12:56 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
BA does their mid-season 'Top-50' list - essentially kicking out everyone who 'graduated' since the beginning of the season and then factors in how the first half went for the remainder.
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Frayed Knot Jul 10 2015 12:16 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
3 runs allowed (and only 1 earned) over 2 starts brings around the second appearance in three weeks for Michael Fulmer in BA's 'Hot List'
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Edgy MD Jul 10 2015 12:30 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
The leagues and the parks in the Mets system tends to cause hitters to start out with pedestrian stats and produce more eye-popping numbers as they climb the ladder. Pitchers tend to work the opposite way — knocking them out when they start out but hitting progressively more unfriendly environments.
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Frayed Knot Jul 10 2015 04:05 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
In his case certainly injuries had some effect on things. After a good season in low-A and some prospect attention, he then had just 9 starts in 2013 then a poor follow-up year in 2014 which may or may not have been a hangover reaction to '13 and led to talk about maybe being a future bullpen-er
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MFS62 Jul 17 2015 07:48 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Don't think either if them is a prospect, but a minor league note.
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Frayed Knot Jul 17 2015 11:08 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
This week from BA's 'Hot List'
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Edgy MD Jul 17 2015 03:51 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
It'll be interesting to see if the switch from Savannah to Columbia will change the organizational structure that suppresses slugging percentages the lower down on the ladder they are.
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Frayed Knot Jul 24 2015 10:59 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Speaking of 1st round picks (now that one is getting his call-up today) Gavin Cecchini (12th overall in 2012) rode a 13-for-30 week into the #7 slot of BA's 'Hot List' this week.
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Frayed Knot Aug 10 2015 10:52 AM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
John Sickels looks back on his pre-season NYM prospect list -- http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/8/1 ... -in-review
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MFS62 Aug 13 2015 05:23 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
There are two guys, Kirk Nieuwenhuis and David Wright, playing for St. Lucie tonight. You might want to keep your eye on them. They have major league potential.
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Frayed Knot Aug 13 2015 05:35 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Fla State League 2015
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TheOldMole Aug 13 2015 05:55 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
It must be weird to be Kirk Nieuwenhuis.
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Frayed Knot Sep 27 2015 01:22 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
John Sickels doing a review of last June's high draft picks
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Edgy MD Sep 27 2015 03:37 PM Re: Prospect Porn, 2015 |
Sending a guy to Brooklyn in his first year out of high school is tough to ask of anybody. But his walk tool apparently stayed intact. In fact, those numbers look strangely Nimmoid.
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