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Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

Edgy MD Feb 20 2015 07:00 PM

Who had the best season from the Mets 2014 bullpen. Well, don't look at Bobby Parnell, folks. The answer is right before you. Can I repeat? Will I wrest closing duties from those other two? You make the call.

themetfairy Feb 20 2015 07:06 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

We'll be calling her Famous Familia -

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 20 2015 07:07 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

Listed at 6-3, 240, looks at least that big. He is one bad ass muthafucka coming out of the bullpen. Completely dominates in comparison to Betances, and just about everyone else too. Will perform best in the 8th inning but will get some saves too. 8-2, 8 saves, 70 games, 70 innings, 80 Ks, 1.88. Being part of a 102-win team boosts his win-column total.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 20 2015 07:26 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Being part of a 102-win team boosts his win-column total. 61 G, 61 2/3 IP, 4 W/1 L, 8 SV, 2.97 ERA/1.21 WHIP, 62 K/23 BB, 3 HR allowed

Benjamin Grimm Feb 20 2015 07:28 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

He'll take over the closer job by August 1, if not sooner. 13 saves, mostly in the second half of the season. Six wins.

smg58 Feb 20 2015 07:36 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

75 IP, 75 K, 3-3, 2.75 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 7 saves.

Lefty Specialist Feb 20 2015 08:54 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He'll take over the closer job by August 1, if not sooner. 13 saves, mostly in the second half of the season. Six wins. This. Parnell won't be ready to be a full-time closer and Jenrry will be too inconsistent. He'll handle the 8th until about June, then slide into the closer role. 3-1, 2.08, 1.12 WHIP, 18 saves.

Ashie62 Feb 21 2015 01:05 AM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

Scary good

MFS62 Feb 21 2015 03:25 AM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

Lefty Specialist wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: He'll take over the closer job by August 1, if not sooner. 13 saves, mostly in the second half of the season. Six wins. This. Parnell won't be ready to be a full-time closer and Jenrry will be too inconsistent. He'll handle the 8th until about June, then slide into the closer role. 3-1, 2.08, 1.12 WHIP, 18 saves. This looks good to me, too. Later

TheOldMole Feb 21 2015 06:17 AM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

Can someone explain to me why, if there's more than one guy who's capable of pitching the 9 th inning, it suddenly becomes "bullpen by committee," and everyone is so contemptuous of it? Why, if a guy can pitch in the 8th inning, is he incapable of pitching in the 9th inning. If you're leading 4-2 going into the top of the 9th, and the first two batters due up are guys that Vic Black has always had a lot of success with, what's so wrong with bringing Vic Black in? Because you're afraid that will bring about the dreaded bullpen by committee? Why, if Bobby Parnell is your best pitcher and the score is tied in the 8th and the other team gets two men on base, can you not bring him in just because it's not a save situation? Why, if Jeurys Familia comes in and retires the side on 6 pitches in the 8th, are you so sure he's going to fall apart in the 9th because he's not The Closer?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 21 2015 06:54 AM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

TheOldMole wrote: Can someone explain to me why, if there's more than one guy who's capable of pitching the 9 th inning, it suddenly becomes "bullpen by committee," and everyone is so contemptuous of it? Why, if a guy can pitch in the 8th inning, is he incapable of pitching in the 9th inning. If you're leading 4-2 going into the top of the 9th, and the first two batters due up are guys that Vic Black has always had a lot of success with, what's so wrong with bringing Vic Black in? Because you're afraid that will bring about the dreaded bullpen by committee? Why, if Bobby Parnell is your best pitcher and the score is tied in the 8th and the other team gets two men on base, can you not bring him in just because it's not a save situation? Why, if Jeurys Familia comes in and retires the side on 6 pitches in the 8th, are you so sure he's going to fall apart in the 9th because he's not The Closer? The only people contemptuous of it are hidebound traditionalists, and who likes a purist? As far as the rest of us, I think there tends to be a certain wariness, if only because the BPC involves a good amount of hands-on strategery from your skipper, and that tends to go one of two ways (and goes, y'know, the other way far more often). Baseball folk tend to be risk-averse, and actually thinking about bullpen usage in a nontraditional way is a little like sharkswimming.

Frayed Knot Feb 21 2015 01:35 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

TheOldMole wrote: Why, if a guy can pitch in the 8th inning, is he incapable of pitching in the 9th inning? No good reason that I know of except that, judging by what one hears anyway, it seems that the majority of those within baseball believe that the track record of a successful 8th inning pitcher hasn't the slightest bearing on how said pitcher will fare if one were to take the rash and radical step of allowing him to pitch in the 9th. Or, for that matter, vice-versa.

Edgy MD Feb 22 2015 01:49 AM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

It's a lot easier for a professional to wake up in the morning having lost the game playing it the culturally mainstream way than to lose it playing it against the grain. You get hung a lot more quickly losing your own way — whether that's the cause of the losing or not. Change takes more than brains. It takes professional courage.

d'Kong76 Feb 25 2015 05:45 PM Re: Forecasts for Fifteen: Jeurys Familia

As I think I said last year, we'll be proud to have him as part of a familia. Big season in saves, when the Mets manage to win their 82 games.