Mar 17 2015 01:20 PM
Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green
Wow, what a shot. That is quite a find. That has to go on a card. 67 or 68 Topps?
Whats this shit about aqua green? Are you saying that cause it's St Patty's Day?
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Only the Walls were Aqua Green
| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 01:10 PM |
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Greg Goossen and the aqua green walls of April, 1967.
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| Zvon Mar 17 2015 01:20 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Wow, what a shot. That is quite a find. That has to go on a card. 67 or 68 Topps?
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 01:23 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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If that's aqua green, then I suppose those walls weren't 't aqua green. Isn't there a lighter aqua green? If not, then what would you call that color? And don't tell me white!
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| G-Fafif Mar 17 2015 01:24 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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And in ten years, it can go on a 77 or 78 Topps.
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| dgwphotography Mar 17 2015 01:26 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Wow. That is a great find...
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 01:36 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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What color would you call these walls?
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 01:38 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Look at that scoreboard. It's a Seaver start. It's gotta be 4/20/67.
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| d'Kong76 Mar 17 2015 01:50 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Aqua-marine green... I think it was a dull popular pool paint
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| Ceetar Mar 17 2015 01:53 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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fucking broke Wilpons.
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| Edgy MD Mar 17 2015 02:00 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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White, with green bleeding through underneath.
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| Ashie62 Mar 17 2015 02:06 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Forest Green faded badly.
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| dgwphotography Mar 17 2015 02:12 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I don't care what color the walls are. It just makes my heart ache...
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 17 2015 03:01 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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It doesn't really look like it in this batch of photos, but other pictures we've seen of the wall when it was that color reminded me of toothpaste. So that's what I'd call the color: Toothpaste.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 03:10 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I also think of toothpaste whenever I try to describe those walls.
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| dgwphotography Mar 17 2015 03:14 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I'd love to squeeze into that DeLorean with you...
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 03:16 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The rain must've thinned out the crowd. Otherwise, it'd be a pretty shabby showing for the opener of the reigning World Champion, World Sensation Amazin' Mets.
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| Edgy MD Mar 17 2015 04:06 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Forty-nine and wet and rainy on April 14 at Shea probably felt about 25 degrees colder.
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| Zvon Mar 17 2015 08:52 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Another amazin' photograph. That wall's primer white, forevermore to be known as toothpaste. Boyer at 3rd! Tommy Davis in left? Ernie Banks at SS! Room for 3 in that DeLorean?
People are laughing at Gusti. Or at the golf cart. I would think that would be pretty early in the history of bullpens to have a player driven in. I wonder when that started. Could that have started at Shea, using a vehicle to bring the pitcher in from the pen? I remember when I first saw the METcapCar in the early 70's. I thought it was as kool as the '66 Batmobile. That's high praise coming from me.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 09:39 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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[fimg=555:2b4v0z2y]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/1590869165_8e0872dca8.jpg?v=0[/fimg:2b4v0z2y]
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| Zvon Mar 17 2015 10:37 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I never saw it without the NY, or not blue. I thought that was painted right on the hat-top. Was the blue part with the NY a covering? Or is that just all dirty and faded. Looks like it was in a fire.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 10:42 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The "caps" were cloth fabric that stretched over the plastic helmet mold that was the roof of the cart.
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| Zvon Mar 17 2015 10:51 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Wow. I did not know that. Amazin'. I really thought there was a giant hat collection in the bowls of Shea.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 10:55 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Actually, they had separate carts --- one for each team. And they had all the AL teams, too, just in case the Mets won the pennant. [fimg=755]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7597/16228622624_84f2e13363_o.jpg[/fimg]
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 11:00 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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And underneath the visiting bullpen, they kept separate bullpen carts for each NFL team, for the Jets relievers. And the Jets opponents. [fimg=666:h0ojjrgg]https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8588/16851006745_e7a7003916_o.jpg[/fimg:h0ojjrgg]
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 17 2015 11:02 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I was only kidding.
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| Ceetar Mar 18 2015 07:50 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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So, did every MLB team ride on those carts in 1975?
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| Edgy MD Mar 18 2015 08:06 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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What's with all the lumps in Cal Koonce's back pocket.
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| MFS62 Mar 18 2015 08:07 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Y'mean Al Woodall had his own cart? Later
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| Zvon Mar 18 2015 08:10 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I assume those are his balls.
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| Ashie62 Mar 18 2015 11:10 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Those pictures are ripe for the 1967 Topps set which featured bright collors.
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| Frayed Knot Mar 18 2015 11:39 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Well Casey supposedly said of Goossen's prospect status that: 'he's only 20 years old and in ten years he had a good chance to be 30'
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 18 2015 12:11 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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And he was right!
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 03:08 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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[fimg=373]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1626791.1395759102!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/bitter-bill-jpg.jpg[/fimg]
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/bitter ... -1.2154340
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 03:21 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I realize this isn't the point of this thread, but can everybody who writes ledes like this -- even if or especially if your shtick is Long Suffering Mets Fan -- be reassigned to lacrosse? (No offense to any lacrosse fans out there.)
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| dgwphotography Mar 18 2015 03:25 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I even had fun during Opening Day, 2003. You know - 15-2, bitter cold... yup, still had fun...
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 03:28 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Mar 18 2015 03:31 PM |
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[fimg=433:4pvbqeok]http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2154363.1426710830!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/jul-13.jpg?enlarged[/fimg:4pvbqeok] [fimg=433:4pvbqeok]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51cehlDqSFL._SY445_.jpg[/fimg:4pvbqeok]
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 03:29 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The topic is aqua green walls. 
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 03:31 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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What gets me about that Price lede is whatever drove him to a life covering sports probably sprouted in those days when allegedly there weren't too many wonderful memories. That's when you're getting your most unshakable wonderful memories. The standard's being set. If he wants to assert it wasn't as good later or that the Mets sucking on and off the field diminished his ardor or that a piece of Shea concrete crumbled into his lap one Saturday afternoon and it left him wondering for a while what the hell's so great about this place (that happened to me in 1999), fine. But it's just lazy and intellectually dishonest -- unless that's really his story -- to say "it sucked to be a kid at the ballpark, but the bullpen cart was kinda cool."
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 03:33 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Colors. Shades. Fences. Uh...1967. Shea. Early in the season. Colors. Lighter than usual. Not blue. Oh boy...Seaver...Goossen...
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| Edgy MD Mar 18 2015 03:53 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The money move here is that whoever designed those hat-covers for the carts thought enough about the authenticity to give them the green underbill.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 04:05 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Let's all stay on topic by playing the Whose Team NFL Carts are Missing? quiz. Give me the complete list of NFL teams whose carts aren't pictured below -- in one post --- to claim credit for winning this quiz. Don't include the names of any NFL teams that didn't yet exist when the picture below was taken. [fimg=866]https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8588/16851006745_e7a7003916_o.jpg[/fimg]
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 04:14 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Where did gathering of helmets convene? My first guess is the Murph, when it was still San Diego Stadium. But maybe wherever in Hawaii they have the Pro Bowl? Though I think the Pro Bowl wasn't yet a Hawaiian entity when the white Rams horn was still in effect.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 04:19 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The Pro Bowl was held at mainland warm weather sites during the period when that photo could have been taken. I'd eliminate Irving Stadium, Arrowhead and the Superdome because of the turf fields and indoor conditions. That's clearly an outdoor photo. But the LA Coliseum and the Orange Bowl are possibilities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 04:25 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The photo could also have been taken at a Super Bowl. If so, Rice Stadium and Tulane Stadium are possibilities.
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 04:35 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Seeing, NFC edition...
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 04:38 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Close. But not quite there.
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 04:38 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Ladies and gentlemen, for your halftime entertainment, please direct your attention to the sidelines, for the most wondrous if slightly incomplete assemblage of football helmet buggies, some with visible drivers! They will be accompanied by the trumpet stylings of Al Hirt as they roll onto the field of play and into your hearts...
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 04:40 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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That white one with the space for a stripe where there isn't a stripe has me flummoxed.
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 04:41 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Also, am I mistaking the Oilers helmet for the Broncos?
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 04:43 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Yep, you did. The Broncos blue was darker.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 04:48 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Oilers '72 to '74. [fimg=444:2js6uv71]http://prod.static.titans.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/team/helmet1972-74.gif[/fimg:2js6uv71]
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 18 2015 04:52 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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That's a Brown helmet. It took me a few minutes to distinguish the Browns from the Saints from the Packers.
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 04:53 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Not sure if I still have my NFL mini-helmet collection, thoughtfully garnered mostly from a South Florida IHOP by my parents in advance of my ninth birthday. At that juncture, when I became familiar with what every pre-concussed player protected his head with, Oilers wore silver, Redskins were still yella and I had no idea that a bronco was a horse, so it took me a while to match that logo to that team. I also didn't know the Patriot was a patriot, per se. I thought he was some kind of cowboy at first glance, though not a Dallas Cowboy.
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| G-Fafif Mar 18 2015 04:55 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I'm totally buying what you're saying about the Eagles vs. Cardinals because a) yes, of course, those wings were rather garish; and b) the football Cardinals seem like the kind of team they'd forget to put together a helmet buggy for.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 12:40 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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| G-Fafif Mar 19 2015 06:41 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Still looks like the Murph to me. Perhaps they assembled in San Diego and charged up I-5 to the Coliseum. Or maybe it was just some preseason photo shoot.
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| HahnSolo Mar 19 2015 07:16 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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That's a track the buggies are parked on, right?
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| MFS62 Mar 19 2015 07:25 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I remember the numbers in the quote being 19 and 29. But, he was right. But why is everyone so concerned about the color of the walls (in this and other threads) in those photos? I'm asking that as a serious question. Don't the colors of the walls in old photos depend on how the pictures (film in those days) were processed and under what temperature and humidity conditions the pictures have since been stored? Later
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| G-Fafif Mar 19 2015 08:06 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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That is indeed a telling detail. Plus w/o an Alouettes helmet and a time machine, we'd have to eliminate the Big O.
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| Edgy MD Mar 19 2015 08:12 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Because apparently for one homestand and one homestand only, at the start of 1967, the Shea outfield walls were a color they never were before or since. And that brief time included Tom Seaver's debut. I long ago argued that the walls were white at the top of 1962. When some didn't believe, I offered photo evidence (largely presented in a thread that this one references in title, called "Only the Walls Were White"). Some responded to that evidence with the notion that these photos did not depict a wall that was really white. To which I say, well, I think they're meant to be white, and are certainly whitish. And that's where we are. It had come up before, I think in a thread called "The Color of the Outfield Walls," but I don't think there was any controversy over the issue then. Come out to big Shea and thrill to our new toothpaste walls.
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| SteveJRogers Mar 19 2015 09:47 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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My philosophy whenever doing something that involves entertainment or escapism from something I'm being paid to do is always have fun! Hell, even when working, no matter how soul crushing and hard the job might be, its a good philosophy to have!
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| HahnSolo Mar 19 2015 12:52 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Perhaps here is our answer: [url]http://boards.sportslogos.net/topic/96536-super-bowl-vii-giant-mini-helmets/
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 01:09 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Whaddya mean "Perhaps"? Neat find.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 01:26 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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| Edgy MD Mar 19 2015 01:37 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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This is exciting. I picture them all charging at one another for some sort of mechanical football-on-wheels game.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 02:05 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The IHOP NFL helmet collection (silver Oiler helmet version) [fimg=766]http://image.timepassagesnostalgia.com/watermarked/images83/8396football.jpg[/fimg]
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 02:12 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Sneaky IHOP probably made sure to stick that placemat in front of every kid, especially if they were dining with their parents. Also, that placemat is, likely, from the 1971-72 season. The Colts and Cowboys as "Super Bowl Stars" is the giveaway. You probably ate your pancakes over that placemat.
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| Benjamin Grimm Mar 19 2015 02:49 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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If I had that placemat in front of me in 1971, I would have looked at all of the NFL cities and thought about the baseball counterparts in those cities.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 02:56 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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For two seasons.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 03:11 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 19 2015 03:40 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Take the white wall test. Compare the outfield wall to Swoboda's shirt, or to the blank ad space right next to the Rheingold ad at the bottom of the scoreboard.
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| Zvon Mar 19 2015 04:43 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Another incredible pic! Of course its shadow and light that makes RF look darker. You can see that if you look beyond to the bullpen wall, still in sunlight. Sun is almost right overhead. Fantastic photograph.
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| Edgy MD Mar 19 2015 09:05 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Agreed. It was that it was a white coat over green.
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| Zvon Mar 21 2015 05:12 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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I think it's about time we looked into The Adventures of the Mets Bullpen Cart. Because that cart has a history many are not aware of.
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| Edgy MD Mar 21 2015 06:28 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Funny how I've looked at that album cover a thousand times and never noticed that. I do however recall being surprised by this scene back in 1972.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 21 2015 09:09 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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You can't fool me, fellers. That cart didn't exist in '69 and woulda had a cloth covered cap in '72.
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| Zvon Mar 21 2015 10:22 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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:) classic.
As far as we know it didn't exist. More proof the cart was on the road in '69. Woodstock! 
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| Mets Guy in Michigan Mar 22 2015 08:38 AM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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Those photos are awesome!!!
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| Zvon Mar 22 2015 01:03 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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You don't even notice the cart unless you look real hard. I can track it back to 1963.
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| batmagadanleadoff Mar 22 2015 03:15 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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A driverless cart in the Presidential motorcade? Did the Warren Commission know about this?
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| Zvon Mar 22 2015 04:22 PM Re: Only the Walls were Aqua Green |
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The commission never interrogated the cart. It was interviewed during the 73 senate assassination commitee investigation and claims, as you do, that it didn't exist in 1963. Where, may I ask, were YOU, Batmags, on November 22nd, 1963?!! [dun-dun-DUN]
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