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Where Mets Rank, 2015

Edgy MD
Apr 07 2015 07:50 AM

I'm kind of rooting for Bartolo to take over the lead on this list by the end of the season.

[list]Wins by a Mets Pitcher After 40

1) Tom Glavine (2006–2007): 28
2) Orlando Hernandez (2006–2007): 18
3) Bartolo Colon (2014–2015): 16
4) Orel Hershiser (1999): 13
T5) Roberto Hernandez (2005–2006): 8
T5) John Franco (2001, 2003–2004): 8
7) Frank Tanana (1993): 5
8) Warren Spahn (1965): 4
T9) LaTroy Hawkins (2013): 3
T9) Miguel Batista (2011–2012): 3
11) David Cone (2003): 1[/list:u]

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 07 2015 08:14 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/2190 ... 1945.shtml

Colon's closing in.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2015 12:56 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Wright hitting the DL makes his pursuit of Strawberry something of an uphill climb.

[list]1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 231
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
10) Ed Kranepool: 118
...
...
22) Rusty Staub: 75
23) Lucas Duda: 74
24) Ron Swoboda: 69
...
...
T34) Bernard Gilkey: 52
T34) Frank Thomas: 52
36) Daniel Murphy: 49
37) John Stearns: 46[/list:u]

Strawberry — and Kranepool, for that matter — feeling a little safer this morning.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2015 01:03 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Terry Collins, by dipping his toes into his fifth season as Mets manager has moved ahead of Gil Hodges and into fourth place for number of Mets games managed:

Davey Johnson 1012
Bobby Valentine 1003
Joe Torre 709
Terry Collins 656
Gil Hodges 649
Yogi Berra 588

Elster88
Apr 23 2015 09:07 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Familia is 8 for 8 in saves in the 13 wins. That's pretty amazin.

13 total for 20th all time, tied with LaTroy Hawkins and Doug Henry. Next up is Anthony Young (!!) with 18.

30 for the season would put him at 35 total good for 13th place. Parnell is 12th with 36. What happens when Parnell comes back anyway? It's a nice problem to have.

Edgy MD
May 17 2015 06:41 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Daniel Murphy joins the 200 doubles club. As you can see below, he has a chance to leapfrog some serious names.

Doubles in a Metly Career

1) David Wright: 375*
Daniel Murphy projected to end of season: 232.63
2) Ed Kranepool: 225
3) José Reyes: 222
4) Howard Johnson: 214
5) Edgardo Alfonzo: 212
6) Carlos Beltran: 208
7) Daniel Murphy: 200
8) Mike Piazza: 193
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at start of season: 190
9) Darryl Strawberry: 187
10) Cleon Jones: 182

*In eight games before getting hurt, David Wright hit exactly 0 doubles, which means, based on his 2015 rate, he is expected to have a doubles-free year.

Not very useful certainly, but he still has a chance to become the first Met with 400 doubles before the year is out.

Edgy MD
Jun 17 2015 09:10 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

All-Time Wins as a Met Manager
[list=1][*]Davey Johnson: 595[/*:m]
[*]Bobby Valentine: 536
Terry Collins Projected to End of Season: 392.36[/*:m]
[*]Terry Collins: 340[/*:m]
[*]Gil Hodges: 339
=#FF8000]Terry Collins at Start of Season: 304[/*:m]
[*]Willie Randolph: 302[/*:m]
[*]Yogi Berra: 292[/*:m]
[*]Joe Torre: 286[/*:m]
[*]Dallas Green: 229[/*:m]
[*]Jerry Manuel: 204[/*:m]
[*]Casey Stengel: 175[/*:m][/list:o]

Frayed Knot
Jul 06 2015 07:40 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

2015 Met Position Players with Fewer RBI than Steven Matz

Matz - 5 RBI, 6 ABs
Dilson Herrera: 4 RBI, 82 ABs
David Wright: 4, 33
Darrell Ceciliani: 3, 68
Anthony Recker: 3, 49 (and he has 2 HRs!!)
Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 2, 38
Johnny Monell: 2, 33
Daniel Muno: 0, 24

Frayed Knot
Jul 06 2015 10:23 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

2015 Met Position Players with Fewer RBI than Steven Matz

Matz - 5 RBI, 6 ABs
Dilson Herrera: 4 RBI, 82 ABs
Johnny Monell: 4, 37
David Wright: 4, 33
Darrell Ceciliani: 3, 68
Anthony Recker: 3, 49 (and he has 2 HRs!!)
Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 2, 38
Daniel Muno: 0, 24

MFS62
Jul 07 2015 06:43 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Interesting.
Which pitcher has the team record for consecutive games with an RBI?
What is that number of games?

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 11 2015 07:15 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Most wins by a Mets pitcher. Jon Niese has moved into a three-way tie for 12th place, with Rick Reed and Craig Swan. Strange to think that Steve Trachsel is in the top ten. Niese needs eight more wins to knock Trachsel into 11th place.

[indent:16a66e88]...
1. Tom Seaver 198
2. Dwight Gooden 157
3. Jerry Koosman 140
4. Ron Darling 99
5. Sid Fernandez 98
6. Al Leiter 95
7. Jon Matlack 82
8. David Cone 81
9. Bobby Jones 74
10. Steve Trachsel 66
11. Tom Glavine 61
12. Rick Reed 59
12. Craig Swan 59
12. Jon Niese 59
15. Bob Ojeda 51
16. Mike Pelfrey 50[/indent:16a66e88]

On the strikeout list, Niese started the season only 1 behind Bobby Jones. He has a long way to go to get to the next slot, but if he can pass Jon Matlack he'll be getting into pretty elite company.

[indent:16a66e88]...
1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Jon Niese 804
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Craig Swan 671
12. Tug McGraw 618
13. Johan Santana 607[/indent:16a66e88]

Also, if he returns to the Mets next year, Niese has a change to move up a few notches on the Innings Pitched list:

[indent:16a66e88]...
1. Tom Seaver 3045.2
2. Jerry Koosman 2544.2
3. Dwight Gooden 2169.2
4. Ron Darling 1620.0
5. Sid Fernandez 1584.2
6. Jon Matlack 1448.0
7. Al Leiter 1360.0
8. Craig Swan 1230.2
9. Bobby Jones 1215.2
10. David Cone 1209.1
11. Jon Niese 1027.0
12. Tom Glavine 1005.1[/indent:16a66e88]


Meanwhile, it looks like Daniel Murphy, in what's likely his final season as a Met has a chance to move past Keith Hernandez in hits, but would need to return in 2016 (or go on a hell of a tear, which would be very welcome) in order to become the tenth Met to reach 1,000 hits.

[indent:16a66e88]...
1. David Wright 1713
2. Ed Kranepool 1418
3. José Reyes 1300
4. Cleon Jones 1188
5. Edgardo Alfonzo 1136
6. Mookie Wilson 1112
7. Bud Harrelson 1029
8. Mike Piazza 1028
9. Darryl Strawberry 1025
10. Howard Johnson 997
11. Jerry Grote 994
12. Keith Hernandez 939
13. Daniel Murphy 920[/indent:16a66e88]


Murphy needs only one more double to break his fifth-place tie with Edgardo Alfonzo, and three more to claim fourth place all to his own. Is second place in reach for him? Maybe... Meanwhile, David Wright looks like he'll be at the top of this list for quite a while.

[indent:16a66e88]...
1. David Wright 375
2. Ed Kranepool 225
3. José Reyes 222
4. Howard Johnson 214
5. Daniel Murphy 212
5. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182[/indent:16a66e88]

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2015 07:27 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

As the CPF 'Rankings' list was starting to come together probably the biggest single complaint early on was that Steve Trachsel was too high (currently in 56th place).
Yet there he is still Top-10 in wins despite being 13th in innings pitched and 14th in games started for a guy who pitched on mostly bad or mediocre teams.

Not that I'm making a case for his greatness or anything but I always thought he got far too much abuse for his time in Queens.

Ceetar
Aug 11 2015 08:04 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Trachsel went 15-8 with a 4.97 ERA in 2006. He then pulled a mini-Glavine and went

Single, (pickoff, if only Glavine had had this..), Walk, Single, foul popout, triple, walk, walk, K. end of inning. Home run, walk, single (off his thigh, the 'reason' he came out), walk, lifted from Mets forever.

Two more runs score on a Darren Oliver wild pitch and a groundout. 5 runs, the Mets don't score. He's up there with Wagner for reasons the Mets lost that series. If it wasn't for Beltran that might've put them down 3-0.

HahnSolo
Aug 11 2015 08:12 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

And the Home Run was to the opposing pitcher.

Edgy MD
Aug 11 2015 08:14 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Even with time lost due to injury, I like Muh's chances to jump from ninth to second in doubles in a single season.

Ceetar
Aug 11 2015 08:25 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Edgy MD wrote:
Even with time lost due to injury, I like Muh's chances to jump from ninth to second in doubles in a single season.


An interesting note I learned from an Effectively Wild podcast. Doubles are hard!

Earl Webb's record 67 was set in 1931 and no one has really gotten close. Plenty of people have been on pace into the second half, but it just never seems to happen. Todd Helton's 59 in 2000 was the only time in nearly 80 years that someone has even gotten within 10 of breaking that record.

Just a thought on the difficulty of hitting doubles throughout the season. Perhaps the warmer weather makes more doubles become home runs?

Frayed Knot
Aug 11 2015 08:33 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

As if one single game was either the cause of, or the sole reason for, Mets fans dislike of Trachsel.
Not suggesting that he should up there among the most popular, only that I've long thought the degree of hate was disproportionate to how he performed here.

Ceetar
Aug 11 2015 08:41 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Frayed Knot wrote:
As if one single game was either the cause of, or the sole reason for, Mets fans dislike of Trachsel.
Not suggesting that he should up there among the most popular, only that I've long thought the degree of hate was disproportionate to how he performed here.


well I mention the crappy 2006 from start to finish as a reason why his win total (as if pitcher win totals mean much of anything) is not really cause for celebration. He stuck around for a while and pitched games and accumulated stats. Mostly inconsequential, bad, and slow games. He got demoted somewhere in there for basically sucking had some decent success after, but I think he gets the right amount of appreciation.

HahnSolo
Aug 11 2015 08:42 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Started out poorly with the team as I recall, then flamed out badly in the '06 postseason. Makes it easy for some fans to forget that he was largely dependable in between (especially for a guy brought in to be a lower part of the rotation pitcher). Don't discount that sometimes watching him pitch was painful. He made watching AL East games seem fast.

Edgy MD
Aug 11 2015 09:12 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Folks were largely predisposed to feed him before he ever took the field. When he stumbled out of the gate, that just confirmed folks pre- established view.

Lots of players like that.

Ceetar
Aug 11 2015 09:12 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Edgy MD wrote:
Folks were largely predisposed to feed him before he ever took the field. When he stumbled out of the gate, that just confirmed folks pre- established view.

Lots of players like that.


Colon?

Mets Guy in Michigan
Aug 11 2015 10:35 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

If the team stays hot, Familia has a chance to break the team's single-season saves record.

Most Saves -- 43 Armando Benitez 2001

Familia has 31. If he gets two a week for the final seven weeks of the season...

Edgy MD
Aug 14 2015 06:52 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Career Doubles by a Met
1. David Wright 375
2. Ed Kranepool 225
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 223.12
3. José Reyes 222
T4. Howard Johnson 214
T4. Daniel Murphy 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182

Edgy MD
Aug 21 2015 07:02 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Daniel Murphy may not return, but he's now on a pace to become the second-doubliest Met ever before he goes.

[list]Career Doubles by a Met

1. David Wright 375
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 225.10
2. Ed Kranepool 225
3. José Reyes 222
4. Daniel Murphy 216
5. Howard Johnson 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 190[/list:u]

Not bad for a two-injury season.

Edgy MD
Aug 23 2015 03:29 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Daniel, you are a machine.

[list]Career Doubles by a Met

1. David Wright 375
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 225.56
2. Ed Kranepool 225
3. José Reyes 222
4. Daniel Murphy 217
5. Howard Johnson 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 190[/list:u]

Edgy MD
Aug 24 2015 07:44 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Ed Kranepool's sleep grows more unquiet by the night.

[list]Career Doubles by a Met

1. David Wright 375
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 226.88
2. Ed Kranepool 225
3. José Reyes 222
4. Daniel Murphy 218
5. Howard Johnson 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 190[/list:u]

But if this is the home stretch, that's not all there is.

[list]Career Hits by a Met
1. David Wright: 1,714
2. Ed Kranepool: 1,418
3. José Reyes: 1,300
4. Cleon Jones: 1,188
5. Edgardo Alfonzo: 1,136
6. Mookie Wilson: 1,112
7. Bud Harrelson: 1,029
8. Mike Piazza: 1,028
9. Darryl Strawberry: 1,025
10. Howard Johnson: 997
11. Jerry Grote: 994
Daniel Murphy Projected to End of Season: 969.24
12. Keith Hernandez: 939
13. Daniel Murphy: 935
14. Carlos Beltran: 878
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 827142.24
15. Lee Mazzilli: 796[/list:u]
Tough break, Mex.

Edgy MD
Aug 24 2015 09:18 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

End-of-Game Update

[list]Career Doubles by a Met

1. David Wright 375
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 227.89
2. Ed Kranepool 225
3. José Reyes 222
4. Daniel Murphy 219
5. Howard Johnson 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 190[/list:u]

But if this is the home stretch, that's not all there is.

[list]Career Hits by a Met
1. David Wright: 1,715
2. Ed Kranepool: 1,418
3. José Reyes: 1,300
4. Cleon Jones: 1,188
5. Edgardo Alfonzo: 1,136
6. Mookie Wilson: 1,112
7. Bud Harrelson: 1,029
8. Mike Piazza: 1,028
9. Darryl Strawberry: 1,025
10. Howard Johnson: 997
11. Jerry Grote: 994
Daniel Murphy Projected to End of Season: 969.40
12. Keith Hernandez: 939
13. Daniel Murphy: 936
14. Carlos Beltran: 878
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 827
15. Lee Mazzilli: 796[/list:u]

Ceetar
Aug 25 2015 05:27 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Oh no! Keith isn't on the Philly road trip right? He might miss Murph passing him!

Edgy MD
Aug 30 2015 03:35 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Worth noting that we're already sitting on the saviest season by a home-grown Met, and possibly projecting toward the saviest season by a Met of any stripe.

[list]Saves in a Season as a Metly, Metly Met

Jeurys Familia (2015) Projected to End of Season: 43.62
1) Armando Benitez (2001): 43
2) Armando Benitez (2000): 41
3) Billy Wagner (2006): 40
4) John Franco (1998): 38
5) John Franco (1997): 36
T6) Francisco Rodriguez (2009): 35
T6) Jeurys Familia (2015): 35
8) Billy Wagner (2007): 34
T9) John Franco (1990): 33
T9) Armando Benitez (2002): 33[/list:u]

The previous high in saves by a home-grown Met was Jesse Orosco — to the extent that you claim Orosco as home-grown — who had 31 with the 1984 Mets, while he was sharing closing duties with Doug Sisk. The previous high by a purely home-grown player was Jenrry Mejia's 28 last year. And that ain't looking so pure any more.

Still, this team has hired mercenaries to finish their games for far too long.

Edgy MD
Sep 12 2015 07:43 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Mets need go 16–5 the rest of the way to get Terry Collins to 400 wins as a skipper on the high Met seas. He is also on the verge of passing Joe Frazier in the win percentage column. And maybe his antecedent Jerry Manuel too if he hits that 400 mark.

Wins by a Mets Manager

[list=1][*]Davey Johnson: 595[/*:m]
[*]Bobby Valentine: 536
Terry Collins Projected to End of Season: 395.91[/*:m]
[*]Terry Collins: 384[/*:m]
[*]Gil Hodges: 339
=#FF8000]Terry Collins at Start of Season: 304[/*:m]
[*]Willie Randolph: 302[/*:m]
[*]Yogi Berra: 292[/*:m]
[*]Joe Torre: 286[/*:m]
[*]Dallas Green: 229[/*:m]
[*]Jerry Manuel: 204[/*:m]
[*]Casey Stengel: 175[/*:m][/list:o]

Wining Percentage by a Mets Manager

[list=1][*]Davey Johnson: .588[/*:m]
[*]Willie Randolph: .544[/*:m]
[*]Bobby Valentine: .534[/*:m]
[*]Bud Harrelson: .529[/*:m]
[*]Gil Hodges: .523[/*:m]
[*]Yogi Berra: .497[/*:m]
[*]Jerry Manuel: .489
Terry Collins Projected to End of Season: .488784[/*:m]
[*]Joe Frazier: .488[/*:m]
[*]Terry Collins: .486689
=#FF8000]Terry Collins at Start of Season: .469136[/*:m]
[*]Dallas Green: .447[/*:m][/list:o]

SteveJRogers
Sep 12 2015 02:16 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Mets need go 16–5 the rest of the way to get Terry Collins to 400 wins as a skipper on the high Met seas. He is also on the verge of passing Joe Frazier in the win percentage column. And maybe his antecedent Jerry Manuel too if he hits that 400 mark.

Wins by a Mets Manager

[list=1][*]Davey Johnson: 595[/*:m]
[*]Bobby Valentine: 536
Terry Collins Projected to End of Season: 395.91[/*:m]
[*]Terry Collins: 384[/*:m]
[*]Gil Hodges: 339
=#FF8000]Terry Collins at Start of Season: 304[/*:m]
[*]Willie Randolph: 302[/*:m]
[*]Yogi Berra: 292[/*:m]
[*]Joe Torre: 286[/*:m]
[*]Dallas Green: 229[/*:m]
[*]Jerry Manuel: 204[/*:m]
[*]Casey Stengel: 175[/*:m][/list:o]

Wining Percentage by a Mets Manager

[list=1][*]Davey Johnson: .588[/*:m]
[*]Willie Randolph: .544[/*:m]
[*]Bobby Valentine: .534[/*:m]
[*]Bud Harrelson: .529[/*:m]
[*]Gil Hodges: .523[/*:m]
[*]Yogi Berra: .497[/*:m]
[*]Jerry Manuel: .489
Terry Collins Projected to End of Season: .488784[/*:m]
[*]Joe Frazier: .488[/*:m]
[*]Terry Collins: .486689
=#FF8000]Terry Collins at Start of Season: .469136[/*:m]
[*]Dallas Green: .447[/*:m][/list:o]


What I take away from this is, its probably time to discuss Bobby V for enshrinement in the Mets HOF. To be alongside Gil and Davey as skippers in said HOF.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 12 2015 03:00 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

I agree. Bobby Valentine should be in the Mets Hall of Fame.


This year, Terry has also reached third place in the number of games managed.

[list:3stuxcyl]Davey Johnson 1012
Bobby Valentine 1003
Terry Collins 789
Joe Torre 709
Gil Hodges 649
Yogi Berra 588
Casey Stengel 582
Willie Randolph 555
Dallas Green 512
Jerry Manuel 417
Wes Westrum 380
Art Howe 323
Bud Harrelson 274
George Bamberger 208
Joe Frazier 207
Jeff Torborg 200
Frank Howard 116
Roy McMillan 53
Salty Parker 11
Mike Cubbage 7[/list:u:3stuxcyl]

Edgy MD
Sep 12 2015 04:58 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Cubbage still has a chance to get out of that cellar.

When I get grant to do baseball research, I'm going to study how the crediting of managerial wins and losses would be affected if you gave the occasional W's and L's to the guy who takes over when the manager has been ejected, or is absent due to illness or family or somesuch.

Don Zimmer went 21–15 while managing the Yankees during Joe Torre's recuperation from cancer. This would put him over 900 wins for his managerial career, but these games are all instead marked on Joe Torre's record.

Chad Ochoseis
Sep 12 2015 06:41 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

End-of-Game Update

[list]Career Doubles by a Met

1. David Wright 375
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 227.89
2. Ed Kranepool 225
3. José Reyes 222
4. Daniel Murphy 219
5. Howard Johnson 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 190[/list:u]



...and Gary Cohen just congratulated Murph on his 223rd double, passing Reyes.

Edgy MD
Sep 12 2015 06:41 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Beat me to it.

'Pool is in deep trouble.

Passing eight of the top nine guys in one season is COOL!

Edgy MD
Sep 12 2015 06:47 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

[list]Career Doubles by a Met

1. David Wright 376
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 227.91
2. Ed Kranepool 225
3. Daniel Murphy 223
4. José Reyes 222
5. Howard Johnson 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 190[/list:u]

Edgy MD
Sep 12 2015 08:59 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

[list]Saves in a Season as a Metly, Metly Met

Jeurys Familia (2015) Projected to End of Season: 45.63
1) Armando Benitez (2001): 43
2) Armando Benitez (2000): 41
T3) Billy Wagner (2006): 40
T3) Jeurys Familia (2015): 40
5) John Franco (1998): 38
6) John Franco (1997): 36
7) Francisco Rodriguez (2009): 35
8) Billy Wagner (2007): 34
T9) John Franco (1990): 33
T9) Armando Benitez (2002): 33[/list:u]

Worth repeating: This team has hired mercenaries to finish their games for far too long.

Edgy MD
Sep 12 2015 09:05 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Céspedes has also cracked the Top 100 in Career Mets Homers.

...
T88) Ray Knight: 18
T88) Derek Bell: 18
T88) Ken Singleton: 18
T91) Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 17
T91) Ken Boyer: 17
T91) Vance Wilson: 17
T91) Joe Orsulak: 17
T91) Todd Pratt: 17
T96) Duffy Dyer: 16
T96) Tony Clark: 16
T96) Damion Easley: 16
T96) Yoenis Céspedes: 16
T96) Marv Throneberry: 16
T96) Tommy Davis: 16

Edgy MD
Sep 25 2015 05:28 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

If it was noted elsewhere in the Crane Pool, we failed to note it here. Daniel Murphy, in a single season, has gone from ninth to second in doubles by a Met. Sorry, Ed!

[list]Career Doubles by a Met


David Wright Projected to the End of Season: 382.11
1. David Wright: 376
=#FF8000]David Wright at Start of Season: 382
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of Season: 228.12
2. Daniel Murphy: 226
3. Ed Kranepool: 225
4. José Reyes: 222
5. Howard Johnson: 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo: 212
7. Carlos Beltran: 208
8. Mike Piazza: 193
=#FF8000]Daniel Murphy at Start of Season: 190
9. Darryl Strawberry: 187
10. Cleon Jones: 182[/list:u]

Not a bad total at all for a guy who hasn't yet reached free agency in his career.

Edgy MD
Sep 25 2015 06:38 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Other Active Mets
...

18. Bud Harrelson: 123
T19. Todd Hundley: 118
T19. Lucas Duda: 118
21. Rey Ordóñez: 115
...

29. Carlos Delgado: 99
T30. Jeff Kent: 98
T30. Bobby Bonilla: 98
T30. Ruben Tejada: 98
T33. Gregg Jefferies: 96
T33. Hubie Brooks: 96
...

T57. Butch Huskey: 62
T57. Rafael Santana: 62
T59. Juan Lagares: 61
T59. Timo Perez: 61
61. Joe Christopher: 59
T62. Doug Flynn: 58
T62. Mackey Sasser: 58
66. Curtis Granderson: 57
67. Ron Hodges: 56
...

T87. Ramon Castro: 41
T87. Fernando Tatis: 41
T87. Josh Thole: 41
T87. Roberto Alomar: 41
T87. Jason Bay: 41
T87. Lance Johnson: 41
T93. Keith Miller: 40
T93. Wilmer Flores: 40
T93. Ray Knight: 40
T96. Shawn Green: 39
T96. Endy Chavez: 39
T98. Frank Thomas: 38
T98. Travis d'Arnaud: 38
T98. Lenny Randle: 38
101. Joe Orsulak: 37
T102. Ted Martinez: 36
T102. Roy McMillan: 36
T102. Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 36
T102. Jeff Francoeur: 36
...

T125. Joe Torre: 29
T125. Luis Lopez: 29
T125. Vance Wilson: 29
T125. Don Hahn: 29
T129. Nick Evans: 28
T129. Eric Young: 28
131. Ron Gardenhire 27
132. Desi Relaford 27
...

T170. Eric Valent: 18
T170. Miguel Cairo: 18
T170. Roy Staiger: 18
T170. Lenny Harris: 18
T170. Dick Schofield: 18
T170. Josh Satin: 18
T176. Felix Mantilla: 17
T176. Anthony Recker: 17
T176. Alex Cora: 17
T176. Andrés Torres: 17
T176. Michael Cuddyer: 17
T176. Eric Campbell: 17
T176. Kelvin Chapman: 17
T176. Tom Seaver: 17
T184. Lastings Milledge: 16
T184. Damion Easley: 16
T184. Mike Phillips: 16
T184. Claudell Washington: 16


T216. Kevin Bass: 12
T216. Matt den Dekker: 12
T216. Marv Throneberry: 12
T216. Chris Young: 12
T216. Tom Herr: 12
T216. Jordany Valdespin: 12
T216. José Oquendo: 12
T216. Joe Foy: 12
T216. Larry Stahl: 12
T216. Ruben Gotay: 12
T216. Jerry Koosman: 12
T227. Matt Lawton: 11
T227. Willie Randolph: 11
T227. Tony Phillips: 11
T227. Willie Harris: 11
T227. Johan Santana: 11
T227. Michael Conforto: 11
T227. Richard Hidalgo: 11
T227. John Buck: 11
T227. Jason Pridie: 11
T227. Gary Rajsich: 11
T227. Rod Barajas: 11
T227. Ronny Cedeño: 11
T239. Mark Johnson: 10
T239. Shane Spencer: 10
T239. Greg Goossen: 10
T239. Kevin Baez: 10
T239. Al Luplow: 10
T239. Julio Franco: 10
T239. Gerald Williams: 10
T239. Elio Chacon: 10

Edgy MD
Sep 25 2015 06:55 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Granderson ties Doug Flynn!

Edgy MD
Sep 26 2015 07:32 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Pretty impressive that he's making a run at the doubles record in a season that he's hit the DL and also spent the first month of the season playing like he was still in spring training.

Mets Doubles in a Season

1) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 44
T2) David Wright, 2008: 42
T2) David Wright, 2005: 42
T2) David Wright, 2007: 42
T5) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 41
T5) David Wright, 2012: 41
T5) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T8) Carlos Beltran, 2008: 40
T8) Daniel Murphy, 2012: 40
T8) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 40
T8) David Wright, 2006: 40
T8) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 40
Daniel Murphy Projected to the End of the Season: 39.72
T13) David Wright, 2009: 39
T13) Paul Lo Duca, 2006: 39
T13) John Olerud, 1999: 39
T13) Daniel Murphy, 2009: 39
T17) Robin Ventura, 1999: 38
T17) Carlos Beltran, 2006: 38
T17) Daniel Murphy, 2013: 38
T17) Daniel Murphy, 2015: 38

Edgy MD
Oct 04 2015 03:46 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

[list]Saves in a Season as a Metly, Metly Met

T1) Jeurys Familia (2015): 43
T1) Armando Benitez (2001): 43
3) Armando Benitez (2000): 41
4) Billy Wagner (2006): 40
5) John Franco (1998): 38
6) John Franco (1997): 36
7) Francisco Rodriguez (2009): 35
8) Billy Wagner (2007): 34
T9) John Franco (1990): 33
T9) Armando Benitez (2002): 33[/list:u]

Edgy MD
Oct 04 2015 04:02 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

And the gilded top five is within reach by the end of next season.

[list]Saves in a Career as a Metly, Metly Met

1) John Franco: 276
2) Armando Benitez: 160
3) Jesse Orosco: 107
4) Billy Wagner: 101
5) Tug McGraw: 85
6) Roger McDowell: 84
7) Francisco Rodriguez: 83
8) Neil Allen: 69
9) Skip Lockwood: 65
10) Braden Looper: 57
11) Randy Myers: 56
12) Jeurys Familia: 49
13) Bobby Parnell: 37
14) Doug Sisk: 33
T15) Ron Taylor: 28
T15) Jenrry Mejia: 28
17) Bob Apodaca: 26
18) Frank Francisco: 24
19) Danny Frisella: 22
20) Anthony Young: 18...

T65) Tyler Clippard: 2
T65) Carlos Torres: 2
...

T85) Logan Verrett: 1
T85) Addison Reed: 1
T85) Josh Edgin: 1
T85) Vic Black: 1
T85) Buddy Carlyle: 1
[/list:u]

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 05 2015 08:50 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Bartolo Colon led the National League this year in hits allowed by a pitcher, with 217. He's only the second Met to lead in this category. (The other was Frank Viola, with 259, in 1991.)

Edgy MD
Oct 05 2015 10:16 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Had he got one more out, Colon would have had the second stingiest year with regard to walks of any Mets starter ever. The stingiest seems out of reach.

[list]Walks/9 by Mets' Starters
1) Bret Saberhagen, 1994: 0.660
2) Bret Saberhagen, 1993: 1.098
3) Bartolo Colon, 2015: 1.110
4) Rick Reed, 2001: 1.136
5) Rick Reed, 1998: 1.229
6) Ed Lynch, 1985: 1.272
7) Bartolo Colon, 2014: 1.334
8) Rick Reed, 1997: 1.339
9) Eric Hillman, 1993: 1.490
10) Tom Seaver, 1968: 1.554[/list:u]

And he led the league hands-down. The Mets have a very controlly staff.

[list]Walks/9 by 2015 NL Starters
1) Colon (NYM): 1.110
=#FF0000]2) Scherzer (WSN): 1.338
=#FF8000]3) Bumgarner (SFG): 1.608
=#0080FF]4) Greinke (LAD): 1.617
5) Kershaw (LAD): 1.625
=#FF0000]6) Zimmermann (WSN): 1.741
7) Harvey (NYM): 1.759
8) deGrom (NYM): 1.791

=#0040FF]9) Haren =#00FF40](MIA, =#0040FF]CHI)=#00FF40]: 1.826
=#0040FF]10) Arrieta (CHC): 1.886 [/list:u]

dinosaur jesus
Oct 05 2015 10:32 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015


And he led the league hands-down. The Mets have a very controlly staff.

[list]Walks/9 by 2015 NL Starters
1) Colon (NYM): 1.110
=#FF0000]2) Scherzer (WSN): 1.338
=#FF8000]3) Bumgarner (SFG): 1.608
=#0080FF]4) Greinke (LAD): 1.617
5) Kershaw (LAD): 1.625
=#FF0000]6) Zimmermann (WSN): 1.741
7) Harvey (NYM): 1.759
8) deGrom (NYM): 1.791

=#0040FF]9) Haren =#00FF40](MIA, =#0040FF]CHI)=#00FF40]: 1.826
=#0040FF]10) Arrieta (CHC): 1.886 [/list:u]


That's a very surprising list. Except for Colon and Haren, those are all power pitchers. But walks per 9 is a traditionally a finesse pitcher category. This year in the NL, five of the top ten in walks per 9 were also in the top 10 in K's per 9. Ten years ago, there was only one pitcher on both lists (Pedro!). That used to be typical. Something's happened to the way this game is played.

Edgy MD
Oct 05 2015 10:51 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Philosophy and mechanics, baby.

Frayed Knot
Oct 05 2015 10:54 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

dinosaur jesus wrote:
But walks per 9 is a traditionally a finesse pitcher category.


Yes, but MLB is (practically) devoid of finesse pitchers these days.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 09 2015 09:19 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

I can't believe that we missed this, but on September 29, in Philadelphia, Lucas Duda became the 12th Mets player to reach 100 home runs. He's poised to move up another five notches next year, which will put him on the cusp of being in some pretty elite territory.

[list:l04dn2nu]1. Darryl Strawberry 252
2. David Wright 235
3. Mike Piazza 220
4. Howard Johnson 192
5. Dave Kingman 154
6. Carlos Beltran 149
7. Todd Hundley 124
8. Kevin McReynolds 122
9. Edgardo Alfonzo 120
10. Ed Kranepool 118
11. Carlos Delgado 104
12. Lucas Duda 101
13. George Foster 99
14. Bobby Bonilla 95
15. John Milner 94
16. Cleon Jones 93[/list:u:l04dn2nu]

Edgy MD
Oct 09 2015 09:21 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Wow. I was too busy counting Murphy's doubles.

Periods of Mets success are so much fun for everybody, except Ed Kranepool, sadly.

Edgy MD
Oct 09 2015 01:12 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

The team's 51 stolen bases ranks but 46th of the 54 Mets teams in history. All the teams below them are from the pre-Torre era, with the exception of the 1994 Mets who were the least-stealingest Mets in history, with 25.

The Mets 2015 stolen base leader is Curtis Granderson, with 11. The 1994 leader was John Cangelosi, with five. Roger Cendeño once stole four in a game for the Mets.

Frayed Knot
Oct 10 2015 08:47 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Terry moves ahead of Casey Stengel, Wes Westrum, Salty Parker, Roy McMillan, Joe Frazier, Joe Torre, George Bamburger, Frank Howard, Bud Harrelson, Mike Cubbage, Jeff Torborg, Dallas Green, Art Howe, and Jerry Manuel in post-season games won as a NYM manager.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 10 2015 08:56 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Hopefully he'll remain tied with them for losses.

Elster88
Oct 12 2015 10:22 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

I'm guessing Goeddel is going to forever hold the record for postseason ERA with [infinite].

Edgy MD
Oct 12 2015 10:24 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Not unless they Mets get knocked out the next two nights.

In other words, no huh-way.

Elster88
Oct 12 2015 10:26 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

I hope he gets another chance, but I imagine it will only be a blowout.

In other words, it's entirely possible.

Edgy MD
Oct 20 2015 10:02 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Post-Season Homers by a Met

1. Daniel Murphy 6
2. Mike Piazza 5
T3. Edgardo Alfonzo 4
T3. Carlos Delgado 4
T3. Len Dykstra 4
T3. Rusty Staub 4
T3. Darryl Strawberry 4
T8. Tommie Agee 3
T8. Carlos Beltran 3
T8. Donn Clendenon 3
T8. Wayne Garrett 3
T8. Jon Olerud 3
T13. Ken Boswell 2
T13. Gary Carter 2
T13. Yoenis Cespedes 2
T13. Travis d’Arnaud 2
T13. Cleon Jones 2
T13. Kevin McReynolds 2
T13. Jay Payton 2
T13. Robin Ventura 2*
T21. Benny Agbayani 1
T21. Michael Conforto 1
T21. Cliff Floyd 1
T21. Keith Hernandez 1
T21. Ray Knight 1
T21. Ed Kranepool 1
T21. Melvin Mora 1
T21. Todd Pratt 1
T21. José Reyes 1
T21. Tim Teufel 1
T21. Al Weis 1
T21. David Wright 1
T21. Todd Zeile 1

* Sort of had another one

Elster88
Oct 20 2015 10:36 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Strikeouts in a single postseason by a Met

1. 1973 Tom Seaver 35
2. 2000 Al Leiter 31
3. 2015 Jacob deGrom 27

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2015 08:53 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank, 2015

Post-Season Homers by a Met

1. Daniel Murphy: 7
2. Mike Piazza: 5
T3. Edgardo Alfonzo: 4
T3. Carlos Delgado: 4
T3. Len Dykstra: 4
T3. Rusty Staub: 4
T3. Darryl Strawberry: 4
T8. Tommie Agee: 3
T8. Carlos Beltran: 3
T8. Travis d’Arnaud: 3
T8. Donn Clendenon: 3
T8. Wayne Garrett: 3
T8. Jon Olerud: 3
T14. Ken Boswell: 2
T14. Gary Carter: 2
T13. Yoenis Cespedes: 2
T14. Cleon Jones: 2
T14. Kevin McReynolds: 2
T14. Jay Payton: 2
T14. Robin Ventura: 2*
T21. Benny Agbayani: 1
T21. Michael Conforto: 1
T21. Lucas Duda: 1
T21. Cliff Floyd: 1
T21. Keith Hernandez: 1
T21. Ray Knight: 1
T21. Ed Kranepool: 1
T21. Melvin Mora: 1
T21. Todd Pratt: 1
T21. José Reyes: 1
T21. Tim Teufel: 1
T21. Al Weis: 1
T21. David Wright: 1
T21. Todd Zeile: 1

* Sort of had another one