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So when Dabid comes back ...

Frayed Knot
Apr 25 2015 05:09 PM

... which is expected to be in a week or so, is there any way to justify playing Murphy over Campbell?

At worst one could argue for them falling into a platoon. But, at this point, Muffy's track record and left-handedness are the only things on his side of the scale while the stuff piling up on the other side keeps, well, keeps piling up.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 25 2015 06:00 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

You would think that the All-Star gets a little more time to right the ship, especially while they're winning. But he's been awful at the plate and in the field.

Edgy MD
Apr 25 2015 07:04 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

I don't think Collins thinks much of Campbell as a second baseman, and has suggested that he's only an emergency option there.

I'd probably put him there in a minute — I mean, Flores is at short, so... — but in 655 games in the minors, Campbell's only appeared at second 15 times and shortstop twice, so apparently his minor league managers have agreed with Terry.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 25 2015 07:17 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

I don't think they'll bail on Murphy quite yet, but I also think that he has to be on the clock somewhat. The scenarios we've pondered have pretty much been the Mets are out of the race and they trade him, or they're in the race and they keep him. But maybe it turns out that they're in the race, but Murphy is awful and nobody will want him.

Edgy MD
Apr 25 2015 07:32 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

His start is no worse than Granderson's last year.

They know well enough to know whether he's close to executing effectively or he's lost.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 25 2015 08:40 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

Two key differences between Granderson in 2014 and Murphy in 2015:

Granderson was in his first year as a Met, with a multi-year contract. Murphy is almost certainly in his last.

The games this season look like they will have more pennant race pressure than last year's games did.

d'Kong76
Apr 25 2015 08:51 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

Booth spent half an inning today, almost, on when (if)
Dilson Herrera will be here if Murph can't pull his head
out of his ass with the muffs.

Zvon
Apr 25 2015 09:02 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

If Murphy keeps this kind of play up? Herrera or Reynolds. Not Campbell @2nd IMO. When Wright comes back we'll see because there's the whole Travis/Plawecki/Recker situation. Could effect what happens to Campbell. Maybe he stays up as a supersub.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 25 2015 09:39 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

As a starting second baseman, Murphy looks like an excellent supersub.

#LetTheEraofDilsonCommence

Frayed Knot
Apr 25 2015 09:51 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Two key differences between Granderson in 2014 and Murphy in 2015:

Granderson was in his first year as a Met, with a multi-year contract. Murphy is almost certainly in his last.

The games this season look like they will have more pennant race pressure than last year's games did.


Also, tons of options to replace Murphy [Herrera, Campbell, Tejada, Reynolds] vs relatively few if any for Granderson V.2014

I don't think Terry/Mets will bail on Murph as early as next week either, but it's getting increasingly difficult to make the argument that they shouldn't.
Soupy has more than adequately filled in for Captain Dave and it would be a shame to see him just tossed aside whilst another infielder is sucking big-time (offensively, defensively, brainfensively) in front of our eyes.

Ceetar
Apr 26 2015 07:29 AM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

stunted spring and long track record will overrule the small sample start. Murphy will be fine.

And they're certainly going to wait until he has a hot streak if they're going to shop him. And if not, he probably plays all season and gets a QO (and the Mets will make it known he won't start in 2016) which he won't accept.

MFS62
Apr 26 2015 07:46 AM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

We've talked about Daniel Murphy not exactly being a Gold Glover in the past.
But I don't recall him being (searching for the proper term ... oh, I know) baseball stoopid.
Has he always been, or is this trait emerging recently?

Oh, and don't forget this other infield option:
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantas ... YHF8a562c3
Shortstop?

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 26 2015 08:26 AM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

I really doubt that Murphy gets a qualifying offer. That's something like $15 million, isn't it?

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 26 2015 09:38 AM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I really doubt that Murphy gets a qualifying offer. That's something like $15 million, isn't it?


The last QO value was $15.3M, I think. The next one should increase by at least another million. Murph getting a QO is about as likely as Anthony Recker winning the MVP award. Unless there's some collusion where Murph secretly promises the Mets in advance that he'd reject the QO.

Frayed Knot
Apr 27 2015 06:57 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

Dear Frayed,
Fuck You.
Sincerely, Danny

MFS62
Apr 27 2015 09:29 PM
Re: So when Dabid comes back ...

Frayed Knot wrote:
Dear Frayed,
Fuck You.
Sincerely, Danny

He did that very politely. LOL!

Later