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The Silver-Gray Insignia

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2015 09:38 AM

Where do I sign, who do I give myself to, to help the Mets walk this one back?

[fimg=350:2xm7v0tl]http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-20095567dt.jpg[/fimg:2xm7v0tl] [fimg=460:2xm7v0tl]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_908w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/04/09/Sports/Images/JN2_90451428610990.jpg&w=1484[/fimg:2xm7v0tl]

Alternate road, my butt. You're taking an alternate road to sartorial ruin, Mets.

It looks lackadaisical and unfinished. Like a child didn't fill in an area with his crayon, or like a Photoshop project didn't designate color for an area, so it defaulted to the transparent background color.

d'Kong76
Apr 28 2015 09:52 AM
Re: The Silver-Gray Insignia

I rather like it.

TransMonk
Apr 28 2015 09:55 AM
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Yeah, they're gross. It seems like the Mets marketing department needs to introduce some sort of alternate uni change every year to keep having new things to sell.

I'm not a huge fan of the road blue unis either. The numbers on the back look like duct tape.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 28 2015 09:59 AM
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I like it too. I think it's a good idea to have grey on the road cap. I think I'd like it better if the button on top was grey instead of orange. Maybe even if the bill was grey too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 28 2015 09:59 AM
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I'm a big fan of the grey letters & numerals. On the cap its only okay because the logo itself doesn't really allow for a lotta color enhancement.

cooby
Apr 28 2015 10:07 AM
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Id like to see that on a black cap

Lefty Specialist
Apr 28 2015 10:13 AM
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The blue cap with orange letters has always been the best combination. They've never been able to improve on it no matter how many things they try.

Leave blue cap and orange letters alone!

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 28 2015 10:13 AM
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I like it better than the cap with the orange bill. That one seems unnecessary.

I love seeing Mr. Met on the blue jerseys.

TransMonk
Apr 28 2015 10:19 AM
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We're all over the map on our opinions of the different unis lately.

I'll tell you one thing: as long as they're winning, what they are wearing matters very little to me (except for the camo...ugh!).

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2015 10:20 AM
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I thought I'd lose. Ya buncha contrarian yokels.

The gray doesn't pop at all. It looks like primer.

Gray works as a base. Not as the color of for your name and number and blessed little insignia. It's who you are. Why do you want to say so in tarnished gray? Especially rendered pencil-thin on the insignia when you have so little room to work with?

Orange against royal works like few colors in the history of colors. It is the perfect orange sun against the perfectest of blue skies. It is the colors of an Indian princess and the colors of New York. It is a study in perfect color contrast. And it IS the Mets hat. Just thinking about it right now has made me happy, and I'm not a happy man.

I see that new insignia and those duct tape letters and it makes me think all the world's a rainy day, our greatest minds have been locked in prison and outfitted in leftover clothes scavenged from a dumpster, and nobody's cleaned the windows for a few decades.

Fman99
Apr 28 2015 10:24 AM
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I am fine with it. My big pet peeve is road jerseys that have the team name instead of the city/state. That, to me, is sacrosanct. The Mets road black uniforms that had the big METS script across the front always bothered me, while I was fine with the road blacks as long as they had the nice block NEW YORK lettering.

Road uniform = city name
Home uniform = team name/logo

TransMonk
Apr 28 2015 10:26 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
Road uniform = city name
Home uniform = team name/logo

I agree with this completely.

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2015 10:39 AM
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That's so incontrovertible, one of these contrarian yokels is bound to controvert it, just because.

Me, I'm starting to drag emotionally on days when Harvey starts because I'm associating the tarnished insignia with him, the same way I associated black hats with Glavine.

cooby
Apr 28 2015 10:41 AM
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What is that on the bill btw?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 28 2015 10:52 AM
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TransMonk wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
Road uniform = city name
Home uniform = team name/logo

I agree with this completely.


Thirding this shit.

A Boy Named Seo
Apr 28 2015 10:57 AM
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Edge has a point about gray looking like primer, but this one seems to have a sort of sheen to it under the lights and it looks a bit more silver than gray. Anyone see that, too? I really like em.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 28 2015 10:59 AM
Re: The Silver-Gray Insignia

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
TransMonk wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
Road uniform = city name
Home uniform = team name/logo

I agree with this completely.


Thirding this shit.



There actually aren't too many teams that don't have the city name on the jerseys at this point.

Off the top of my head, the Dodgers and Cubs both have alternate road jerseys that have team name.
The Cardinals have the team name -- a tradition that dates back decades. The irony is that the team has a home alt with St. Louis on it.
The Angels
The Rays
Phillies (Though there might be special circumstances there)

I think that's it. Am I missing anyone?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 28 2015 11:54 AM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Edge has a point about gray looking like primer, but this one seems to have a sort of sheen to it under the lights and it looks a bit more silver than gray. Anyone see that, too? I really like em.


It's the thinking night-bicycling Met fan's hat!

(I kinda like 'em under the lights.)

Lefty Specialist
Apr 28 2015 12:19 PM
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Under the lights it looks white to me, but that doesn't change things. Original blue and orange still works best.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 28 2015 01:01 PM
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Mets Guy in Michigan wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
TransMonk wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
Road uniform = city name
Home uniform = team name/logo

I agree with this completely.


Thirding this shit.



There actually aren't too many teams that don't have the city name on the jerseys at this point.

Off the top of my head, the Dodgers and Cubs both have alternate road jerseys that have team name.
The Cardinals have the team name -- a tradition that dates back decades. The irony is that the team has a home alt with St. Louis on it.
The Angels
The Rays
Phillies (Though there might be special circumstances there)

I think that's it. Am I missing anyone?

The stupid Marlins often wear MIAMI at home and MARLINS on the road.

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2015 01:15 PM
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That's true. What the hell?

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 28 2015 01:16 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

The stupid Marlins often wear MIAMI at home and MARLINS on the road.


New-look Miami has marginalized its team name "Marlins" from their imagery to such a degree, that I wonder if the team would prefer, deep down, to be called the Miami Miamians, instead.

[fimg=655]http://www.nasljerseys.com/ABA/Images/Floridians/Floridians%2070-71%20Home%20Larry%20Jones%20Back.jpg[/fimg]

TransMonk
Apr 28 2015 02:17 PM
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Early Bday present for me came in the mail today. A road gray #4 (my name on the back).

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 28 2015 02:22 PM
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Love it.

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2015 02:25 PM
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That's so good the keyboard probably just started playing itself in celebration of its proximity.

You want to improve your organization, you screw around with the things that aren't working so well, and you leave the things that are working well alone, until every other thing is just working so damn awesomely well that those things that were your strongest assets decades ago are not as strong, relative to the lofty mean of all the awesome stuff you've developed in the meantime.

Has anybody, living or dead, ever said, "Damn, the Mets insignia just isn't really working"?

I can think of 20 other ways to improve the Mets brand assets without touching that insignia.

SteveJRogers
Apr 28 2015 02:30 PM
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To be slightly fair, the silver/gray text has been a part of any road blues the Mets have worn either in the regular season or in Spring Training going back to the early 1980s, well for the most part as it looks like 1982 they sported an all blue top with an NY on the left chest and uni number on the right.






Point being, it isn't a fad that happened because it was seen as "cool and hip" by marketers like the black was when it was introduced.

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2015 02:39 PM
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To be slightly fair, when I use "cool and hip," please let me know.

Zvon
Apr 28 2015 02:39 PM
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As I've said I really like the new cap. Holding one in my hand, I don't know, but on TV the NY looks white and it plays well. Also, I have an old Giants cap almost the same (the NY is white) and I've always liked that cap.




Normally I'm against anything non-orange for the NY. But seeing these, I've made an exception.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
TransMonk wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
Road uniform = city name
Home uniform = team name/logo

I agree with this completely.


Thirding this shit.


Fourthing it.

SteveJRogers
Apr 28 2015 02:54 PM
Re: The Silver-Gray Insignia

Edgy MD wrote:
To be slightly fair, when I use "cool and hip," please let me know.


No one said you did. My point is that there is evidence of that textual color scheme in Met uniforms going back to the early 1980s, most likely because the home BP/ST blue unis since the introduction of a blue top are full orange, as opposed to the black which was introduced due to marketing strategies that pro teams were doing in the 1990s.

SteveJRogers
Apr 28 2015 02:56 PM
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cooby wrote:
What is that on the bill btw?


New Era stickers.

Edgy MD
Apr 28 2015 02:59 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
To be slightly fair, when I use "cool and hip," please let me know.


No one said you did. My point is that there is evidence of that textual color scheme in Met uniforms going back to the early 1980s, most likely because the home BP/ST blue unis since the introduction of a blue top are full orange, as opposed to the black which was introduced due to marketing strategies that pro teams were doing in the 1990s.


Yes, and my point is and was that when you refute an argument that isn't being made, you're using a good man as a straw man. That's me. A good man. Exploited and used by the likes of you. It's turrible.

dgwphotography
Apr 28 2015 03:08 PM
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I like the new blue road jerseys - The alternate caps? Not so much.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Apr 28 2015 03:44 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Love it.



A thing of beauty!

cooby
Apr 28 2015 04:28 PM
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SteveJRogers wrote:
What is that on the bill btw?


New Era stickers.


Thank you Steve! I was hoping it was something removable :)

cooby
Apr 28 2015 04:29 PM
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dgwphotography wrote:
I like the new blue road jerseys - The alternate caps? Not so much.



I think when I saw the blue jerseys the other day, that was when I realized I missed the black ones.