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TotG, 5/18

Edgy MD May 19 2015 07:37 AM

[list][*]Yeah, the offense didn't put on much of a show, but they beat the team with the best record in baseball. You celebrate such wins any way you can get 'em. [/*:m] [*]Nice, indeed, for a one-run win to fall our way after three of the four losses in Chicago were one-runners. [/*:m] [*]You're going to lift your shutout-pitching starting pitcher for your closer, have the grace to pull your poor defenders when able replacements are rotting on the bench. [/*:m] [*]Nice to see the Mets (a) better armed for a war of attrition, having five bench players to the Cardinals' four, and (b) using them more judiciously, as noted when the Cards sent their last pinch hitter up in an obvious bunting situation, thus burning a successful pitcher as well as their last hitter without a RISP. Darn peculiar, Metheny. [/*:m] [*]The Mets were not solving Maness, and the Cards ended up letting him hit and then pulling him anyway. Darn peculiar, Metheny. You stick with those guys as long as you can. Eventually you'll get to a pitcher (**cough**Tuivailala**cough**) who just doesn't have it. [/*:m] [*]Cards used seven relievers and got 117 pitches out of them. Mets used five pitchers, who threw 100 pitches — 58 of them by Los Torreses. Always smart to keep score of these things after extended extra innings, especially in the first game of a series. Gilmartin and Leathersich were the two who stayed in the pen.[/*:m][/list:u]

Centerfield May 19 2015 07:40 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

It was nice to see Goedell and Robles shine in a high leverage situation. Maybe Terry will remember they are out there now. I never got the feeling they would punch this one out. But these Mets showed they are a real threat to score when the opposing pitcher walks three in an inning.

MFS62 May 19 2015 07:47 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Centerfield wrote: It was nice to see Goedell and Robles shine in a high leverage situation. Maybe Terry will remember they are out there now. When the first came up, I thought they'd be as forgotten as Andrew Ridgeley*. But I think we'll be seeing more and more of them, especially since Black and Parnell haven't been good in their rehab appearances. Later * = Obligatory musical reference.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2015 07:48 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Terry's on record saying both Hansel So Hot Now and Goeddel will get higher-leverage spots. This as of Saturday or Sunday. Goeddel is about as unsung a performer as this club has. Someone sing about him. Goodbye Kirk.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2015 07:49 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Oh and Cuddyer. Jesus.

TransMonk May 19 2015 07:50 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

You can't ask for much more out of the pitching staff. Even though Familia blew the save, it's not as if he was rocked. As mentioned in the IGT, he was betrayed by Grandy's arm as much as anything. The O continues to look lost at the plate and the D continues to jeopardize excellent pitching performances. Matheny did have a couple of head scratching moves.

Edgy MD May 19 2015 07:51 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Cuddyer is continuing his pattern of being just clued in enough to not seem utterly clueless. One really good at bat, followed by two or three enigmatic ones. Excellent point about Robles and Goeddel. It was a real coming out party for them. I'm tired of hearing about bullpen experience. Let them fly. I also want to note that Molina seemed to be running that entire show — setting the defense, carrying his pitchers with his force of will, and taking the running and bunting games for the Mets off the table in a game where they could really have use them. At one point, he came out from behind the plate to jump on dribbler that would have been an infield hit 95% of the time (OE: this was in the eighth, with Monell at the plate and hustling down the line), and I imagine he called the pickoff that got Flores with his pants around his ankles. It was really impressive to see everything a catcher can be for his team without coming to the plate — somewhat like I imagine Grote was for the team only I was too young to appreciate him. They should just name him player-manager.

Ceetar May 19 2015 07:52 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Centerfield wrote: It was nice to see Goedell and Robles shine in a high leverage situation. Maybe Terry will remember they are out there now. I never got the feeling they would punch this one out. But these Mets showed they are a real threat to score when the opposing pitcher walks three in an inning. well 3* That AB to Duda was amusing. Really highlights that Cuddyer needs to get going though, and if David is really on the mend, that'll help too. The Mets lineup is too workable right now, but when David (And d'Arnaud) are back, there are a lot less holes. You don't walk Duda there if it's David. Hell, I'm not sure there's anyone you walk there to face David, who has the 4th highest wRC+ against lefties from 2005-2015. (Jose Abreu, Paul Goldschmidt, Ryan Braun) Part of that was the 14th inning crunch of pitchers, normal circumstances you probably lefty-lefty Duda or walk him and switch to a righty. Glad they pulled it out. It's always fun to see lofty pitcher W-L records, but they're really not very useful anyway. Harvey was amazing, love that he settled down after seemingly missing a little bit early. I know they're trying to manage Harvey and all, but personally I think they should get these guys to 120 pitches a few times, even if it's an irregular occurrence, so that 100 pitches isn't occuring at the tail end of their endurance.

Edgy MD May 19 2015 07:59 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Freddy Freeman really likes ankle-high pitches, doesn't he?

Frayed Knot May 19 2015 08:23 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

And how 'bout that game-winning rally: Walk, Walk, IF grounder, IW, IF grounder

TransMonk May 19 2015 08:53 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Ceetar wrote: I know they're trying to manage Harvey and all, but personally I think they should get these guys to 120 pitches a few times, even if it's an irregular occurrence, so that 100 pitches isn't occuring at the tail end of their endurance. SNY was showing stats that imply Harvey has historically fallen off after 100 pitches (something like a .400+ BA against in his career). It was maybe not something they wanted to test in such a tight game.

Edgy MD May 19 2015 08:57 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

And it wasn't like he was dominating the previous two innings, either. There'll be a time for pushing him a little harder. I'm not particularly upset that last night wasn't that time.

Ceetar May 19 2015 09:10 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

TransMonk wrote: Ceetar wrote: I know they're trying to manage Harvey and all, but personally I think they should get these guys to 120 pitches a few times, even if it's an irregular occurrence, so that 100 pitches isn't occuring at the tail end of their endurance. SNY was showing stats that imply Harvey has historically fallen off after 100 pitches (something like a .400+ BA against in his career). It was maybe not something they wanted to test in such a tight game. yeah, but that's sorta my point. if your arm is stretched out to 100 pitches, when you get there you're about at the end of your endurance. if you'd stretched it out beyond that, you might not be straining as much at 100. Maybe not specifically last night, but in general. Also those after 100 pitches stats are often so small samples it's hard to take them seriously.

Frayed Knot May 19 2015 10:25 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Do keep in mind also that Harvey was removed for a PH w/a runner on and 2 outs in bottom 8th (could have been two on and one out but for Wilmer's pick-off) so it's not like he was being yanked simply on account of pitch count or the inning.

Ashie62 May 19 2015 10:41 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

Robles is a revelation to me.

Fman99 May 19 2015 10:51 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

It was a good game and for once I did not crash out and miss the ending. The ball that Heyward hit for the tying sac fly was seriously low, like, a 1-iron type shot.

Benjamin Grimm May 19 2015 11:46 AM Re: TotG, 5/18

I watched a good chunk of this game. There were times when the Mets were in the field and I realized that it was a situation where I would normally root for a double-play grounder, but with the current set of infielders, ground balls have become scary in a way that they haven't been in the past.