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Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2015 09:44 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 20 2015 12:57 PM

Not for nothing but if this series was really a showdown of 2 playoff clubs or whatever the Cardinals looked like the clearly dominant one last night, and its important for the good guys to respond right NOW!!!! Pitching matchup, who cares. We need to hit with the better teams. That is all.

d'Kong76 May 20 2015 09:50 AM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20

St. Louis at NY Mets When: 7:10 PM ET, Wednesday, May 20, 2015 Where: Citi Field, New York City, New York SportsDirect Inc. The St. Louis Cardinals haven't posted back-to-back road wins against the New York Mets in the same series in 10 years, but they have a chance to end that drought Wednesday in the third of a four-game set at Citi Field. The Cardinals broke out of their recent offensive funk away from home with a 10-2 drubbing of the Mets on Tuesday, matching their run output from their previous seven games combined at Citi Field. St. Louis, which had been limited to three runs overall in its last road games, rebounded from Monday's 2-1, 14-inning setback by pounding out 15 hits to level the series at a game apiece. Mark Reynolds clubbed his first homer in 14 games as part of a three-hit night and Randal Grichuk contributed three hits and three RBIs one night after striking out five times. Daniel Murphy's two-run homer - his first blast since April 27 - accounted for the lone runs in the most lopsided defeat of the season for New York, which dropped into a tie with Washington for first place in the National League East. Bartolo Colon goes for his seventh win Wednesday against Cardinals right-hander Carlos Martinez. TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, FSN Midwest (St. Louis), SNY (New York) PITCHING MATCHUP: Cardinals RH Carlos Martinez (3-2, 4.73 ERA) vs. Mets RH Bartolo Colon (6-2, 3.86) Martinez bounced back from a pair of wretched performances with a solid effort against Detroit, permitting two runs and seven hits while matching his season high with eight strikeouts over five-plus innings. He was battered for seven runs in each of his previous two turns, which followed a three-start winning streak in which he allowed three runs in 19 innings. He has yielded one run over 5 1/3 innings against the Mets. Colon was hit hard for the second straight outing, permitting six runs (five earned) in five innings against Milwaukee on Friday. It marked the third time in four starts that the soon-to-be 42-year-old Colon has yielded at least four runs and the seventh time in eight outings he has coughed up at least one home run. Colon has never lost to the Cardinals, logging a 4-0 record and 2.77 ERA in six career starts. WALK-OFFS: 1. Cardinals LF Matt Holliday has reached base in 39 straight games, a streak dating to last season. 2. Mets LF Michael Cuddyer has hit safely in five games in a row. 3. St. Louis hasn't posted consecutive wins in the same series at New York since May 14-15, 2005.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 12:37 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20

I guess this is the igt. LETS GO METS!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2015 01:27 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Grandy Campy Doody Cuddy Muffy Wilmy Laggy Wecky Colony

Lefty Specialist May 20 2015 02:29 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Glad Recker's on the bench so Steve Gelbs has someone to talk to.

Edgy MD May 20 2015 02:31 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

See now, I thought "Wecky" was Recker, but only now am I realizing that he means PLA-Wecky. This is why I need the medication.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 03:05 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Them Wong 4 Carpenter 5 Holliday 7 Adams 3 Peralta 6 Molina 2 Heyward 9 Grichuk 8 Martinez 1

TransMonk May 20 2015 03:29 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Edgy MD wrote: See now, I thought "Wecky" was Recker, but only now am I realizing that he means PLA-Wecky. This is why I need the medication. I did a double take, too.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 03:36 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

I thought it was Wecky Greene.

Zvon May 20 2015 05:26 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

1-0 them already. Lags got beat in center again.

Frayed Knot May 20 2015 05:33 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Cards have had the leadoff hitter on in 7 of the last 11 innings -- 5 of 9 Tuesday night and the first two tonight. And most of the ones they missed were after last night's game was already out of reach. Ain't gonna win playing that way.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 05:43 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

And Lags got beaned.

Frayed Knot May 20 2015 05:50 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

And now it's 8 innings of 12. Also, when the Cards have more hits [u:7keq5quq]per inning[/u:7keq5quq] than the Mets have in the whole game, I don't think that's a good thing.

Frayed Knot May 20 2015 05:59 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

The hell with the Kentucky Derby: Bartolo beating out an infield hit is the most exciting two minutes in sports.

Edgy MD May 20 2015 06:04 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Yeah, but he's missed out twice now on scoring the tying run..

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2015 06:04 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Jeez.

Zvon May 20 2015 06:05 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Unfuckinbelievable. Bofat deserves to lose.

Edgy MD May 20 2015 06:11 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Heyward likes the ball on top of his shoes.

Frayed Knot May 20 2015 06:11 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

And now it's 9 leadoff hitters on in the last 13 innings.

Edgy MD May 20 2015 06:13 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Duda's mistake was jumping, I think.

Zvon May 20 2015 06:19 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

I had to step off. This team will drive ya crazy. Missed all this. So Heyward homers, and then another error? And more runs? Stepping off again.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2015 06:24 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Playing like shit again.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2015 06:25 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Fire Terry? No focus, lazy dumb plays everywhere.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 06:27 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

This one's done. This team needs a young skipper, not this vain old fart.

Frayed Knot May 20 2015 06:27 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

I was just about to ask if these muthafuckers ever hit a ball AT a fielder - but now that hardly matters. Of course the fact that on those rare occurrences when they do hit one in the vicinity of one of our guys we can't field it properly makes it moot anyway.

Centerfield May 20 2015 06:31 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Fire the team. This team is fucking awful.

Zvon May 20 2015 06:33 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Fire Terry? No focus, lazy dumb plays everywhere. I continue to think this will not help matters at this point. These guys are MLB ballplayers. They should know how to tag up. What was he even doing off the base? If it dropped he could jog home and if it didn't he should have been set to tag. They do need some kind of shakeup tho, and cutting Newy loose wasn't it.

Nymr83 May 20 2015 06:40 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Lots of sloppy tonight but Colon just doesn't have it, why is he even out there this inning? Conceding the game? Eating innings?

Zvon May 20 2015 06:41 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

On Grichuk's double, in real time, it looked like the Mets fielded it in slow motion.

Frayed Knot May 20 2015 06:43 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

And just in case you've lost count, that's 10 leadoff hitters on in the last 14 innings and, in some cases, leadoff hitter[u:1an26x0h]S[/u:1an26x0h] have reached base.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2015 06:46 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Yeah that's just me being pissed off but someone should answer for the Mets' continued failure to execute properly while giving away all it gained during an 11 game win streak.

Zvon May 20 2015 06:47 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

It was nice though, wasn't it? For a month and a half, thinking that this team could contend.

Centerfield May 20 2015 06:51 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

For me I stopped fooling myself during the Cubs series. This St. Louis series is just reiterating what we already knew.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 20 2015 06:52 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

They're not even competing some nights. That has to stop.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 06:52 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Zvon wrote: It was nice though, wasn't it? For a month and a half, thinking that this team could contend. I am nominating David Wright for player/manager.

Ashie62 May 20 2015 06:54 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: They're not even competing some nights. That has to stop. If Terry Collins were your boss would you do just enough to get by??

Lefty Specialist May 20 2015 06:56 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

"Mr. Matz, white courtesy phone....."

Zvon May 20 2015 07:03 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Ashie62 wrote: Zvon wrote: It was nice though, wasn't it? For a month and a half, thinking that this team could contend. I am nominating David Wright for player/manager. If they do send TC packing, I'd support this.

Zvon May 20 2015 07:08 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Ashie62 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: They're not even competing some nights. That has to stop. If Terry Collins were your boss would you do just enough to get by?? Only if I wanted my manager to get fired. I don't think that's the case here.

Centerfield May 20 2015 07:19 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

What's frustrating is that there is absolutely nothing the Mets can do right now. There is no hitting available. This is why you don't sign Michael Fucking Cuddyer and pretend you had a successful off-season.

Lefty Specialist May 20 2015 07:25 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Well, this team has done absolutely nothing on offense for a month now. And the players we might have traded to make room for the up-and-coming have either sucked or been injured. There are two outfielders who aren't pulling their weight and I want to see them sit for a while. Cuddy and Grandy are 'great clubhouse guys' but they're killing this team.

Edgy MD May 20 2015 07:27 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

All badness stems from Colon not scoroning.

Zvon May 20 2015 07:28 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

So this Mets revival that Sandy talks about in his book...when's it supposed to happen?

batmagadanleadoff May 20 2015 07:33 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Centerfield wrote: What's frustrating is that there is absolutely nothing the Mets can do right now. There is no hitting available. This is why you don't sign Michael Fucking Cuddyer and pretend you had a successful off-season. Geez, how do I respond, how do I express my approval, all without mentioning the dreaded Wilpon and Madoff words that cause a lot, or at least some people to lose their shit?

batmagadanleadoff May 20 2015 07:37 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Jeez,with the Mets poised to absorb another demoralizing loss, I could practically smell the next Megdal hate piece.

Edgy MD May 20 2015 07:38 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Oh, my God, not SOME PEOPLE. They're the worst.

batmagadanleadoff May 20 2015 07:39 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Another qualifier. I suppose. Maybe.

Zvon May 20 2015 07:51 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Even Lagares has lost his magical glove. I really don't understand where these players heads are at. Like on that grounder to short to end the inning. There were two outs and Flores takes the time to look the runner back @ 3rd. Wtf?

Edgy MD May 20 2015 07:53 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Systems are complex things, all things influence each other, and bad play begets bad play.

Frayed Knot May 20 2015 08:00 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Lefty Specialist wrote: There are two outfielders who aren't pulling their weight and I want to see them sit for a while. Cuddy and Grandy are 'great clubhouse guys' but they're killing this team. Don't look now but there are three -- Lagares has the lowest OPS out there. Actually there [crossout]are[/crossout] were five dropping anchor if we want to go beyond just the starters, although one has now been replaced.

Fman99 May 20 2015 08:13 PM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

Yuck-a-roo

MFS62 May 21 2015 05:58 AM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

If no one else has mentioned how much we dislike guys names Kolten, then let me be the first Later

TransMonk May 21 2015 08:04 AM Re: Cardinals @ Mets 5/20 ++<<--Game Thread-->>++

From the post-game presser (bolding mine): "We're not hitting the ball hard," Collins said. "... We're not even barreling up some balls. I don't know what the reason is. Other teams don't have a problem hitting suckers out of this ballpark." Oh, Terry. Figure it the fuck out.