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Edgy MD May 07 2015 11:05 AM

Whereas: [list:23ey5zi7][*:23ey5zi7]The Mets have 20 games in 20 days coming up, and[/*:m:23ey5zi7] [*:23ey5zi7]The Mets are trying to limit the workload of their valued starting pitchers (particularly deGrom, and doubly particularly Harvey), and[/*:m:23ey5zi7] [*:23ey5zi7]Rafael Montero is on the DL with shoulder tendonitis, and[/*:m:23ey5zi7] [*:23ey5zi7]Noah Syndergaard has been untouchable since returning to full strength following bouts with food poisoning and tendonitis of his own earlier in the year, and[/*:m:23ey5zi7] [*:23ey5zi7]Syndergaard has a full year more of AAA experience than Steven Matz, and[/*:m:23ey5zi7] [*:23ey5zi7]The Mets debuted both Harvey and Wheeler in road starts[/*:m:23ey5zi7] [*:23ey5zi7]That stupid arbitration clock thingie should be behind us, ...[/*:m:23ey5zi7][/list:u:23ey5zi7] ... therefore, I'm throwing it down right now. Unless he starts laying eggs or comes up hurt, Syndergaard's coming real soon. In fact (puts fingers to forehead/squints eyes), I'm calling Friday night, May 22, in Pittsburgh. I have foreseen it. And the fact that nothing else I've foreseen has come to pass shouldn't necessarily undermine that statement.

Edgy MD May 07 2015 11:08 AM Re: Synderclock

Great. David Lennon scooped me last night.

themetfairy May 07 2015 11:10 AM Re: Synderclock

And keep him from being the 1,000th Met? Bummer!

Mets Guy in Michigan May 07 2015 11:15 AM Re: Synderclock

themetfairy wrote: And keep him from being the 1,000th Met? Bummer! It's gotta be Matz. It's his ... destiny!

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2015 11:17 AM Re: Synderclock

I think the 1000th Met is gonna be some 35-year-old journeyman veteran for whom the Mets will be his 9th team.

Ceetar May 07 2015 11:23 AM Re: Synderclock

Shouldn't Thorsblot be on a Thursday? But the 22nd means an extra day of rest for Harvey and deGrom, which I guess is part of the point. Don't forget Syndergaard is on the tighter innings limit though. And that's still 3.5 starts away. situation could be exacerbated by an injury or trade. If they're looking to ease him in, it might make sense to wait for the following series against the Phillies, though technically that'd be off-turn.

Edgy MD May 07 2015 11:35 AM Re: Synderclock

Ceetar wrote: Shouldn't Thorsblot be on a Thursday? Are you a seer, also? I don't really go for the Thor stuff. Ceetar wrote: But the 22nd means an extra day of rest for Harvey and deGrom, which I guess is part of the point. I said as much. Ceetar wrote: Don't forget Syndergaard is on the tighter innings limit though. Cripes! I'm not predicting five months of complete games for the guy. Ceetar wrote: And that's still 3.5 starts away. situation could be exacerbated by an injury or trade. I said as much as much. Ceetar wrote: If they're looking to ease him in, it might make sense to wait for the following series against the Phillies, though technically that'd be off-turn. The tea leaves tell you other things than they tell me, I see.

Ceetar May 07 2015 12:40 PM Re: Synderclock

I enjoy the Thor stuff. If we're not calling his curveball Mjölnir I don't know what we're doing anymore. Not questioning your tea leaves. I prefer to read entrails though, I find the accuracy is a little better. I just mean that I'm not sure it's effective to use a guy with a stricter inning cap to try to relieve the other guy's caps.

Edgy MD May 07 2015 12:46 PM Re: Synderclock

He'll be pitching anyhow.

Ceetar May 07 2015 12:52 PM Re: Synderclock

Edgy MD wrote: He'll be pitching anyhow. the 23rd would be his day in Vegas so you're already bumping him up a day. But it's the minors and easier to bump guys for a day here and there, manage innings, pull guys, etc.

MFS62 May 07 2015 06:41 PM Re: Synderclock

He was the winning pitcher today. 8 IP, 5 H, 2R, 0 BB, 8K. Ho hum. He also had three hits, including a double and a home run. Later

TheOldMole May 07 2015 07:32 PM Re: Synderclock

My daughter was at the game today. Said he looked great.

Edgy MD May 08 2015 06:25 AM Re: Synderclock

Hey, look, he bats left-handed! And he hit it to dead center too, just as the announcer is talking about his hitting prowess.

Benjamin Grimm May 08 2015 06:32 AM Re: Synderclock

Seeing "Synder" and "clock" together makes me think of Cinderella. Maybe "Cinderella" would be a better nickname for Noah than "Thor" is.

Centerfield May 08 2015 08:58 AM Re: Synderclock

I'm all for this. Future back pages: CINDERELLA HAVING A BALL! Syndegaard K's 12 as Mets Shutout Nats CLOCK STRIKES 12 FOR NOAH! Syndegaard roughed up as Mets streak ends at 14

Edgy MD May 08 2015 09:38 AM Re: Synderclock

Ashie62 May 08 2015 03:43 PM Re: Synderclock

Gee has groin injury... Does that move Noah up?

Gwreck May 08 2015 05:01 PM Re: Synderclock

Pitching this Tuesday at Wrigley. Gee to DL

Frayed Knot May 08 2015 06:10 PM Re: Synderclock

As the ancient Chinese proverb says: May you root for the Mets during interesting times.

Edgy MD May 08 2015 06:18 PM Re: Synderclock

Smoly crap, huh? I would've encouraged them to call up an infielder for a few days beforehand, but... way to go, Mets. And... what a convenient little injury.

Ashie62 May 08 2015 07:34 PM Re: Synderclock

Thor smore, it's noah to me.

bmfc1 May 09 2015 09:44 AM Re: Synderclock

Edgy MD wrote: Smoly crap, huh? I would've encouraged them to call up an infielder for a few days beforehand, but... way to go, Mets. And... what a convenient little injury. Exactly on both fronts. They don't need Noah until Tuesday so get another hitter--maybe they'll have a 15 inning game between now and then.

Mets – Willets Point May 09 2015 10:08 AM Re: Synderclock

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think the 1000th Met is gonna be some 35-year-old journeyman veteran for whom the Mets will be his 9th team. Or A-Rod.

dgwphotography May 09 2015 12:58 PM Re: Synderclock

Gwreck wrote: Pitching this Tuesday at Wrigley. Gee to DL I can't be the only one who's nervous about a pitching prospect making his MLB debut in Wrigley, can I?

Frayed Knot May 09 2015 01:35 PM Re: Synderclock

dgwphotography wrote: Gwreck wrote: Pitching this Tuesday at Wrigley. Gee to DL I can't be the only one who's nervous about a pitching prospect making his MLB debut in Wrigley, can I? Eh ... Wrigley's actually a much better pitching park than it's rep suggests. That rep exists because on those days when it is good for hitters -- those infamous wind-blowing-out days -- it's REALLY GOOD. But, even though those days get all the headlines, they're decidedly in the minority, especially early in the season like this when you're more likely to get the opposite or a neutral kind of day. If this were a day game in August I'd be more apt to be chewing fingernails with you.

Edgy MD May 09 2015 05:00 PM Re: Synderclock

I think he's thinking less about the hitting environs and more about April 12, 1981.

Frayed Knot May 09 2015 06:29 PM Re: Synderclock

In that case let's just hope that the temperature is not in the mid-40s

Frayed Knot May 09 2015 06:47 PM Re: Synderclock

And if nothing else, he should help our Noffense out a bit: he's a .270/. 357/.405 career hitter in the minors (47 PAs)

dgwphotography May 09 2015 07:23 PM Re: Synderclock

Edgy MD wrote: I think he's thinking less about the hitting environs and more about April 12, 1981. That's exactly what I was thinking about.

dgwphotography May 09 2015 07:25 PM Re: Synderclock

Frayed Knot wrote: In that case let's just hope that the temperature is not in the mid-40s According to weather.com, the low Tuesday night is supposed to be 47...

batmagadanleadoff May 10 2015 10:43 AM Re: Synderclock

Edgy MD wrote: I think he's thinking less about the hitting environs and more about April 12, 1981. I'd be mightily surprised if he can even spell "1981". And I'd lay 1000-1 odds against him ever hearing about Tim Leary, either the pitcher or the drug experimenter. So no, I don't think he's thinking about April 12, 1981. Frayed Knot wrote: dgwphotography wrote: Gwreck wrote: Pitching this Tuesday at Wrigley. Gee to DL I can't be the only one who's nervous about a pitching prospect making his MLB debut in Wrigley, can I? Eh ... Wrigley's actually a much better pitching park than it's rep suggests. Jason Isringhausen debuted against the Cubs at Wrigley Field, to much fanfare, what with Izzy comprising one third of the much heralded and anticipated Generation K. Izzy should have logically debuted against the Rockies at Shea, the Mets prior opponent, but Dallas Green specifically held Izzy back one series, confusing the Rockies for Murderer's Row and batshit reasoning that Bichette and Castilla were clearly the present day versions of Ruth and Gehrig. It was too much to expect Dallas to figure it out that the Rockies were pretty fucking tame outside of their historically absurd home stadium that, especially in those pre-humidor days, played like a pinball machine on rocket fuel --- apparently, nobody else in the Mets org back then was there to clear up Green's fuzzy thinking, either. So Izzy debuted at Wrigley, a hitter's park, on a hot Summer day, instead of at home in a pitcher's park against a mediocre road team. Despite making the playoffs that year, the Rockies were 33-39 when they weren't a mile high. Still, it worked out well for the Mets and Izzy. He was excellent in his MLB debut, giving up two hits and two walks in seven innings while striking out six. Wrigley Field was usually a hitter's park. As a kid growing up on baseball, Wrigley had a reputation as the premier hitter's park in the NL. Some of that was, no doubt, hype attributable to the memorable high-scoring double digit slugfests that would play out a coupl'a times a year when the Chicago wind was blowing out powerfully. Still, Wrigley favored the hitter. Wrigley's dimensions haven't changed in my lifetime, so the stadium should play the same. Ballpark Factor ratings for each stadium are not calculated in a vacuum, but rather, relative to every other stadium. So a stadium like Wrigley can have its ratings change, morphing into less of a hitter's park, even without any alterations to its dimensions, if the newly constructed stadiums, overall, are smaller in dimensions than the stadiums they replaced.

dgwphotography May 10 2015 11:19 AM Re: Synderclock

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I think he's thinking less about the hitting environs and more about April 12, 1981. I'd be mightily surprised if he can even spell "1981". And I'd lay 1000-1 odds against him ever hearing about Tim Leary, either the pitcher or the drug experimenter. So no, I don't think he's thinking about April 12, 1981. Considering that was about 2 months before my high school graduation, I'm pretty sure I can spell 1981...

batmagadanleadoff May 10 2015 11:25 AM Re: Synderclock

dgwphotography wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I think he's thinking less about the hitting environs and more about April 12, 1981. I'd be mightily surprised if he can even spell "1981". And I'd lay 1000-1 odds against him ever hearing about Tim Leary, either the pitcher or the drug experimenter. So no, I don't think he's thinking about April 12, 1981. Considering that was about 2 months before my high school graduation, I'm pretty sure I can spell 1981... I know you can. I have reasonable doubts whether Syndergaard can.

batmagadanleadoff May 10 2015 11:26 AM Re: Synderclock

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I think he's thinking less about the hitting environs and more about April 12, 1981. I'd be mightily surprised if he can even spell "1981". And I'd lay 1000-1 odds against him ever hearing about Tim Leary, either the pitcher or the drug experimenter. So no, I don't think he's thinking about April 12, 1981. Considering that was about 2 months before my high school graduation, I'm pretty sure I can spell 1981... I know you can. I have reasonable doubts whether Syndergaard can. OK. Now I see what was going on and who "he" was. You're "he". My bad.

dgwphotography May 10 2015 11:44 AM Re: Synderclock

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I think he's thinking less about the hitting environs and more about April 12, 1981. I'd be mightily surprised if he can even spell "1981". And I'd lay 1000-1 odds against him ever hearing about Tim Leary, either the pitcher or the drug experimenter. So no, I don't think he's thinking about April 12, 1981. Considering that was about 2 months before my high school graduation, I'm pretty sure I can spell 1981... I know you can. I have reasonable doubts whether Syndergaard can. OK. Now I see what was going on and who "he" was. You're "he". My bad. I think we should throw the blame on Edgy - he started a second page, and didn't quote what he was referencing, so that probably confused everyone.

Frayed Knot May 10 2015 02:13 PM Re: Synderclock

And it's partly my fault for misinterpreting DGW's original post as to why we should fear Wrigley as a debut spot for Synderella. Further thought on Wrigley's rep (deserved, overblown, or somewhere in between) as a hitting haven: I wonder if its slide down the ranks of ballpark rankings is due, not just to better hitters parks in Denver, Philly, and maybe Phoenix, but also as the percentage of day games has decreased? It started, of course, at zero, was originally capped at 18 per/year, is probably around and even day/night split these days and is heading higher.

Ceetar May 10 2015 08:23 PM Re: Synderclock

Let's not forget Thor's coming from the PCL, where offense is fairly high.

Ashie62 May 12 2015 05:48 PM Re: Synderclock

It is time. Blow in sweet wind.

Edgy MD May 12 2015 06:54 PM Re: Synderclock

Fman99 May 12 2015 08:30 PM Re: Synderclock

Too bad the Mets are sucking some Syndercock tonight.

Centerfield May 13 2015 08:07 AM Re: Synderclock

I have to say, I was disappointed in what I saw. He has a great fastball but does not locate it well. He missed over the plate way too much, and I thought that he was fortunate to get through 5 innings scoreless. He looked afraid to come inside on hitters, and that allowed them to feel very comfortable at the plate. His secondary stuff is just ok. Maybe my thoughts were skewed by watching Arrieta's curve dominate Mets hitters all night, but I didn't see anything from his off-speed pitches to think any of them could be a weapon. What I liked was that he was not afraid to throw them when behind in the count, but if big league hitters start anticipating that, these will be hit a long way. Both his curve and change up look very flat. In short, he looks more like Zach Wheeler than Matt Harvey. (Though I think he will be better than Wheeler.)

Edgy MD May 13 2015 08:24 AM Re: Synderclock

I think his curve showed up nicely. I agree with you about his spottiness on his fastball though. And agree that he's more Wheeler than Harvey. And agree that he'll be better than Wheeler. His motion is closer to Harvey's. And that's why I can't go in for this Thorgasm stuff. It sets the guy up to fail and is a dangerous distraction during an important transition.

Lefty Specialist May 13 2015 09:25 AM Re: Synderclock

I'll put down that fastball location to nerves, he seemed to be over-throwing a bit. We'll see if it improves. But his secondary stuff was pretty damn good. There were some nasty curveballs mixed in. He's not Harvey, but nobody is. I'll take 'better than Wheeler'.

Ceetar May 13 2015 09:30 AM Re: Synderclock

I'm gonna reserve judgement on if he's Harvey or Wheeler (hell, I'm still reserving judgement on Wheeler) after one start, I suspect Thor is Thor.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 13 2015 09:54 AM Re: Synderclock

"This Sutton kid's okay, but not all he was made out to be. Nervous, no meanness, no punch. I mean, he's no Drysdale... no Drysdale at all." The mechanics seem pretty consistent, and he's got a minor league history full of attacking hitters (rather than nibbling/pitching around them, a la le Zack). In a tough road start against a tricky opponent, he wasn't hopeless and was mostly very good. He'll attack hitters a bit more next time, he'll learn to pitch, and-- barring injuries or act-o'-God weirdness-- he'll likely be very good at both.

Frayed Knot May 13 2015 10:03 AM Re: Synderclock

Y'know Harvey wasn't exactly HARVEY right off the bat either. I remember it dawning on me (and posted such here) around the 3rd start of his second season that we were onto something special with him. Prior to that there were shirley hints of it but the road wasn't without its potholes either. I think we may need to take a few patience pills around here. Harvey's early starts: 1st game) 5.1 IP, 0 runs, 3 hits 2) 6 / 3 / 4 + 3 BBs (L) 3) 5 / 5 / 8 (L)

Edgy MD May 13 2015 10:38 AM Re: Synderclock

deGrom certainly took a few starts to gain traction also.

Ashie62 May 13 2015 01:26 PM Re: Synderclock

Now only 4 of 42 MLB Pitchers debuting at Wrigley have won their first start. Noah had his parents in the stands and had to be nervous. His mechanics look solid. I believe he will dominate in time.

Centerfield May 18 2015 07:40 AM Re: Synderclock

Centerfield wrote: I have to say, I was disappointed in what I saw. He has a great fastball but does not locate it well. He missed over the plate way too much, and I thought that he was fortunate to get through 5 innings scoreless. He looked afraid to come inside on hitters, and that allowed them to feel very comfortable at the plate. His secondary stuff is just ok. Maybe my thoughts were skewed by watching Arrieta's curve dominate Mets hitters all night, but I didn't see anything from his off-speed pitches to think any of them could be a weapon. What I liked was that he was not afraid to throw them when behind in the count, but if big league hitters start anticipating that, these will be hit a long way. Both his curve and change up look very flat. In short, he looks more like Zach Wheeler than Matt Harvey. (Though I think he will be better than Wheeler.) I had to take my daughter to a birthday party so I missed this game, but from all accounts he addressed all of these points above. I guess it didn't take long.

Edgy MD May 18 2015 08:06 AM Re: Synderclock

Yeah, he was much more around the plate, with the exception of the unfortunate peg of Go-Go and staying consistently away from Braun after that, until Braun ended up breaking the shutout. It took some guts for Terry to stay with him after that, but Lagares ran down a deep drive for out #3.