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IGT, 6/10, Mets Avenge Themselves upon the Giants

Edgy MD
Jun 09 2015 09:06 PM

Matt Harvey defends against Tim Hudson.

Four no-hitters in four years is gluttony, Giants.

Edgy MD
Jun 09 2015 10:13 PM
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Would-be Giant-slayers Travis d'Arnaud and Dilson Herrera are expected to be activated for the game. I'm no soothsayer, but I foresee Daniel leaving tonight on a plane. Kevin, too.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 10 2015 04:31 AM
Re: IGT, 6/10, Mets Avenge Themselves upon the Giants

Edgy MD wrote:
Would-be Giant-slayers Travis d'Arnaud and Dilson Herrera are expected to be activated for the game.


Good! That's a few days earlier than they had been saying.

Edgy MD wrote:
I'm no soothsayer, but I foresee Daniel leaving tonight on a plane. Kevin, too.


It took me a moment to realize that you meant Muno and not Murphy.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 05:00 AM
Re: IGT, 6/10, Mets Avenge Themselves upon the Giants

San Francisco at NY Mets
When: 7:10 PM ET, Wednesday, June 10, 2015
Where: Citi Field, New York City, New York
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Although rookie Chris Heston's masterful no-hit performance rightly garnered front-page headlines, Joe Panik pieced together quite the story of his own in the opener of the three-game series versus the New York Mets. Panik, a New York native who played collegiately at St. John's, looks to extend his hitting streak to 14 games as the visiting San Francisco Giants and Mets reconvene at Citi Field on Wednesday.

Panik homered among his two hits and Matt Duffy also went deep as San Francisco breezed to its 11th victory in 14 road contests with a 5-0 triumph on Tuesday. Both batters will face a stern test in Wednesday starter Matt Harvey, who looks to prevent New York from tumbling to its sixth setback in eight outings overall and ninth in 10 meetings with San Francisco. Heston's dominating effort obviously handcuffed veteran Michael Cuddyer, who saw his 12-game hitting streak come to a halt. Catcher Travis d'Arnaud is expected to be activated from the disabled list prior to Wednesday's contest after being sidelined with a broken right pinkie since April 20.

TV: 7:10 p.m. ET, CSN Bay Area (San Francisco), SNY (New York)

PITCHING MATCHUP: Giants RH Tim Hudson (3-5, 4.41 ERA) vs. Mets RH Matt Harvey (6-3, 3.05)

Hudson followed up a win with a loss for the third straight time this season, despite allowing two runs on seven hits in as many innings of a 5-2 setback to Pittsburgh on Wednesday. The 39-year-old has fared well versus the Mets in his career, posting a 17-10 mark with a 3.52 ERA - including a 5-2, 3.24 performance in eight tilts at Citi Field. Hudson did not get a decision in his last meeting, yielding three runs on seven hits in five innings.

Harvey recorded his first win since May 1 after working around a pair of homers among the six hits he allowed in seven innings of a 6-2 triumph over Arizona on Thursday. The 26-year-old has been taken deep five times in the last three outings, but has struck out at least nine in four of his last five trips to the mound. Harvey owns an 0-1 career mark versus the Giants despite recording a 1.08 WHIP and limiting the club to a .213 batting average.

WALK-OFFS:
1. San Francisco C Buster Posey recorded three hits in the series opener and is 7-for-19 with three runs scored in his last four games.
2. New York RF Curtis Granderson went 0-for-4 with three strikeouts on Tuesday, and is 1-for-10 in his career against Hudson.
3. Giants OF Hunter Pence admitted to feeling discomfort in his ailing wrist while swinging off a tee on Tuesday. He has been sidelined for a week with the injury.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 10 2015 05:47 AM
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I think Dilson won't be here, but Travis will. They are accelerating the latter return because Plawecki in addition to sucking at baseball is having continued issues with vertigo.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 06:05 AM
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Yes, the SNY blogger thing says Dilson won't be activated today.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 06:10 AM
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I sure hope d'Arnaud is something like ready. Because Plawecki/Recker (along with Campbell) has been the real black hole in the lineup.

Frayed Knot
Jun 10 2015 06:18 AM
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I think they mentioned last night that Dilson is traveling to NYC but that his activation won't necessarily be immediate, as opposed to Travis who's going to be put into the lineup ready or not.

Ceetar
Jun 10 2015 07:06 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I think they mentioned last night that Dilson is traveling to NYC but that his activation won't necessarily be immediate, as opposed to Travis who's going to be put into the lineup ready or not.


I thought it was the opposite, but admittedly I wasn't in front of a computer following closely last night.

I liked Wayne Randazzo fine when he was filling in, but his post game felt plodding and forced last night. I just wanted to hear the calls on the recap but took forever to get there.

Ashie62
Jun 10 2015 10:06 AM
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Rubin speculated Muno and d'Arnaud back today.

Muno and Plawecki to Vegas.

and the clock is ticking to bring Matz up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 10 2015 12:33 PM
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You know what would be cool? If Matt Hovvey throws a no-hitter tonight, just to get back at them.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 12:43 PM
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That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. REVENGE!

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Ceetar
Jun 10 2015 12:54 PM
Re: IGT, 6/10, Mets Avenge Themselves upon the Giants

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
You know what would be cool? If Matt Hovvey throws a no-hitter tonight, just to get back at them.


a 3-HBP no-hitter.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 01:08 PM
Re: IGT, 6/10, Mets Avenge Themselves upon the Giants

I was thinkin' a 1 HBP no-no... Posey

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 01:22 PM
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@cgrand3 RF
Tejada 2B
Duda 1B
@mcuddy23 LF
Flores SS
@TdArnaud C
@juanlagares2 CF
Campbell 3B
@MattHarvey33 P

@kcmets #cpftoocool

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 01:50 PM
Re: IGT, 6/10, Mets Avenge Themselves upon the Giants


Aoki lf
Panik 2b
Pagan cf
Posey c
Belt 1b
Crawford ss
Duffy 3b
Maxwell rf
Hudson p

Ceetar
Jun 10 2015 01:59 PM
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"Hunter Pence fakes stomach ailments to avoid our signs."

TransMonk
Jun 10 2015 02:58 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 10 2015 04:10 PM
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I like these Duda tweets, but I couldn't locate the account.

Frayed Knot
Jun 10 2015 04:51 PM
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3 hits tonight would bring Duda's total for the past week to right up around 4 ... hate to bust on the guy as he's been terrific all year, but he's picking a bad time to go all a-slumping on us.

TransMonk
Jun 10 2015 05:14 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I like these Duda tweets, but I couldn't locate the account.

Yeah, I'm just making them up as a creative writing assignment from Centerfield yesterday. Duda is a luddite.

You can make up your own and take a screenshot (never download) from here.

Zvon
Jun 10 2015 05:24 PM
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Didn't think things could become more embarrassing after yesterday. That's just unbelievable. That was a lead off triple run into a single.

Zvon
Jun 10 2015 05:32 PM
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I agree w/the booth. Bad send by Tueff. Grandy out at home on Cuddy's single.

Flores ties it with a 2 RBI single right up the middle!

2-2 Mets

Zvon
Jun 10 2015 05:35 PM
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I figure it'll take d'Arnaud a few games to get up to speed.

Frayed Knot
Jun 10 2015 06:09 PM
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What's that now, 14 infield hits or 15 for the Giants over the last two games?
It's like they practice swinging bunts or something - and then they follow it with balls hit too slowly for GiDPs

Ashie62
Jun 10 2015 06:33 PM
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Do your job here Ruben.

Ashie62
Jun 10 2015 06:34 PM
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Well done Ruben, Grandpa to third.

Ashie62
Jun 10 2015 06:48 PM
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Memories of Harvey day. I expected too much.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 06:50 PM
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Harvey looks tired, stoned... #metsrumorshere

Ashie62
Jun 10 2015 06:55 PM
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Good thing Campbell survived that collision with Terry's shit, I mean short bench.

Fman99
Jun 10 2015 06:57 PM
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Yuk

Centerfield
Jun 10 2015 06:59 PM
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WTF Harvey.

Ashie62
Jun 10 2015 07:03 PM
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Flores is beginning to look like the Met's best offensive weapon. Yes, offensive weapon is an oxymoron as related to the Mets.

Ashie62
Jun 10 2015 07:04 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
WTF Harvey.


The Giants see Kershaw five times a year, this is nothing.

Frayed Knot
Jun 10 2015 07:19 PM
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Well, the Giants sure did switch up from getting infield hits.
And now Aoki gets his 17th hit of the series so far. And, unlike NYM leadoff doubles, I'm betting the Giants are going to figure out a way to bring him in.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 07:35 PM
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Feeling ungracious about Dave Righetti talk in the booth.

Frayed Knot
Jun 10 2015 07:39 PM
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Well this game may be boring and sucky, but at least it's only going to take four hours or so.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 07:39 PM
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A lot of strikeouts looking for Granderson these days.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 07:42 PM
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Four Hall of Famers who've played for the Giants and Mets:
[list:16jhrj8p][*:16jhrj8p]Willie Mays[/*:m:16jhrj8p]
[*:16jhrj8p]Warren Spahn[/*:m:16jhrj8p]
[*:16jhrj8p]Gary Carter...[/*:m:16jhrj8p][/list:u:16jhrj8p]

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 07:43 PM
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Duke Snider's right, Gary!

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 07:46 PM
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Strickland untouched.

dgwphotography
Jun 10 2015 07:47 PM
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hmmmmmm.... Gary said that on one show, the opposition to he and Howie was outstanding. Might that be our own Gafif?

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 07:53 PM
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It's not fair to call Curtis "indifferent" there. He was hustling.

Clumsy, but hustling.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 07:58 PM
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Is Torres another guy who shot-puts his throws to the bases?

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 08:02 PM
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Romo drives me crazy. Touches every part of his body before each pitch.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 08:05 PM
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Guys, just put it in play. Baby steps.

Bunt. I'm serious.

Edgy MD
Jun 10 2015 08:06 PM
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That's it. Put it in play and make them play some defense.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 08:07 PM
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d'Darnit, jeebus fuckin' crispies!

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 08:07 PM
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Laggy trips!

Fman99
Jun 10 2015 08:10 PM
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Campbell sucks a big fat mackerel.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 08:11 PM
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That's the excitement for the night.

d'Kong76
Jun 10 2015 08:39 PM
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Guess no one cares... books... yyy

TransMonk
Jun 10 2015 09:47 PM
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Harvey has a 7.20 ERA over his past four starts.

Yuck!

Lefty Specialist
Jun 11 2015 06:26 AM
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Can we please put a hold on the 'Harvey Day' stuff right now, as well as the Dark Knight stuff?

(Although the way he's been pitching lately, he may want to wear a mask.)

Gwreck
Jun 11 2015 08:05 AM
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It may be happening anyway. There was not a big crowd in the so-called "Matt Kave" last night.

Ceetar
Jun 11 2015 08:35 AM
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we'll get a few days or weeks of anti Dark Knight/Harvey Day talk, which is really the exact same thing, and then he'll be dominate again and we'll be back to it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 11 2015 08:48 AM
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Ceetar wrote:
we'll get a few days or weeks of anti Dark Knight/Harvey Day talk, which is really the exact same thing, and then he'll be dominate again and we'll be back to it.


what gives you CAHNfidence Harvey is any good anymore? He's basically the Cuddyer of pitching lately.

Ceetar
Jun 11 2015 08:58 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
we'll get a few days or weeks of anti Dark Knight/Harvey Day talk, which is really the exact same thing, and then he'll be dominate again and we'll be back to it.


what gives you CAHNfidence Harvey is any good anymore? He's basically the Cuddyer of pitching lately.


Because 3 of 4 bad starts is a small sample? Because he's pretty much always been good and that he's just a bit off right now is what makes the most sense given what we know about him, his stats, his injury history, etc?

Also Cuddyer is hitting .314/.359/.465 over the last 28 days, and is slightly above average on the season offensively.

d'Kong76
Jun 11 2015 09:02 AM
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Never was in the Harv-is-godlike club but maybe all those no
decisions while pitching lights out got into his swelled head?

Ceetar
Jun 11 2015 09:25 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Never was in the Harv-is-godlike club but maybe all those no
decisions while pitching lights out got into his swelled head?


Maybe someone's out there writing about this (maybe i should?) but there's plenty of questions in my mind about the pitch selection and game play last night.

Ron Darling was going on and on about it and I barely watched the broadcast. Harvey allowed his first HR on an 0-2 pitch, ever.

It's Travis d'Arnaud's first game back. Were they on the same page? Was the game plan different last night? HAS there been a concerted effort to occasionally pitch to more contact? (Which is really stupid)

The Mets are throwing more balls in the zone, striking out more guys but walking fewer. (This was one of Ron's points) The scouting reports may have adjusted, it's time to adjust back. Slow adjustments to hitter adjustments has been one of my long standing points of contention with Mets pitchers. Ron suggested throwing a few more way inside. Make them uncomfortable. You can probably miss on any side of the zone you want though, if guys are more apt to swing because they know it's a high-probably "in the zone" pitch, they're going to swing at more balls too. So make them do that. (This is where it's okay, if you hit your spot, to be okay with contact.)

I wish I had the time to really dig into these numbers. Like, what's the opponents swing% in June versus April-May?

edit: 46.7% opponent swing percentage in April, 48.4% in June if I'm reading that right.

Ashie62
Jun 11 2015 09:57 AM
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Fire Terry Collins.

Frayed Knot
Jun 11 2015 10:02 AM
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Saw yesterday where ABs against Harvey feature the highest pct of 1st-pitch swings - some 41% IIRC.
Not sure how any of this fits into a couple of poor games in a row (probably doesn't at all) but it's not something I would have guessed.