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Draft 2015
Frayed Knot May 30 2015 07:28 AM |
Draft starts next Monday (Jun 8)
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Benjamin Grimm May 30 2015 08:09 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Put me down for "Trey Cabbage."
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Edgy MD May 30 2015 09:33 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Skye Bolt could ease my post-Damien Magnifico heartbreak.
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Zvon May 30 2015 09:58 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
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A real actual lol. I didn't see that coming. I could get some of mileage out of Kyle Funkhouser. Skye Bolt could not have grown up a normal human being. His name makes that impossible.
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dgwphotography May 31 2015 05:50 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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The NY Post headline will practically write itself after his first ML victory.
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2015 06:44 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Draft starts at 7 PM tonight where they'll announce the first 75 choices - so 1 NYM pick today (#53) at I'm guessing around 10 PM
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 07:19 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Daz looks swell.
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2015 07:26 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Better him (Nevin) than Mariano Rivera Jr.
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 07:36 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
I think Mariano, Jr. is listed as a fourth-round talent, tops, so if they go for him at #54, they must have seen somebody other folks haven't.
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2015 07:47 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Reportedly Mo-Jr jumped up if people's eyes as a result of this past HS season.
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Centerfield Jun 08 2015 07:50 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
I really really really hope the pick Colorado got for Cuddyer ends up being the second coming of Jason Tyner.
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2015 10:53 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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More often than not the problems with the compensation-attached FAs we've signed hasn't been that we missed out on some once-in-a-generation draft pick as much as they didn't get as much out of the FA as hoped. 1999 - pick #22 went to the ChiSox in compensation for the signing of Robin Ventura. The Sox drafted Matt Ginter who never did much and wound up doing some of that not much with the Mets 2001 -- pick #26 was forfeited to the A's for the signing of Kevin Appier. A's draft HS pitcher Jeremy Bonderman who was a decent middle of the rotation starter for a time (although was the pick that caused Billy Beane to heave a chair against the wall in MONEYBALL) 2006 -- Phils take Kyle Drabek with the 18th overall pick they got in exchange for the Mets signing of Billy Wagner. Drake's career never took off as many predicted although the Phils were able to package him in a trade (w/d'Arnaud and others) for Roy Halladay. 2007 -- Mets cede pick # 29 to the Giants for Moises Alou. SF drafts Wendell Fairley who never makes the majors. 2009 -- Angels had back to back picks (#24 & 25) from the two NY teams as compensation for losing Francisco Rodriguez and Mark Teixeira. With the Mets' pick LAA chose Randall Grichuk (recently traded to StL) one pick before choosing Mike Trout w/the Teixeira pick ... so maybe a bit of a cautionary tale there. On the flip side, the Mets chose: Bill Traber w/pick #16 in exchange for losing John Olerud (Traber became part of the Robby Alomar trade) Aaron Heilman with pick #18 when the Rox signed Mike Hampton (and some guy named Wright was the 'sandwich' pick that year 20 slots later) Ike Davis was our compensation when Glavine returned to Atlanta, 18th pick 2008
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 11:07 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
And Matt Reynolds and Kevin Plawecki with the compensation picks for José Reyes.
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dgwphotography Jun 08 2015 11:18 AM Re: Draft 2015 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 08 2015 11:21 AM |
Wasn't David Wright a compensation pick, or am I conflating him with someone else?
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 11:20 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Yeah, noted up top by FK:
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dgwphotography Jun 08 2015 11:21 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Yeah - completely missed that, and we cross-posted...
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 11:23 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
METSSC repeatedly at the MOFo: "And we let Mike Hampton go for nothing. FOR NOTHING!"
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2015 12:14 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
As the compensation rules have changed over the years, I was trying to link just the direct gains or losses as the result of FA signings. IOW, only those picks that were transferred from one team to another as opposed to 'extra' picks like Wright or Plawecki which were gained by the Mets but not directly lost by the other team.
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 06:20 PM Genuine Draft |
The Diamondbacks open the proceedings by taking that handsome but spoiled country club swain Dansby Swanson with the first overall pick.
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metsmarathon Jun 08 2015 06:32 PM Re: Genuine Draft |
amazing that he could find time for baseball between all the polo matches.
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 06:54 PM Re: Genuine Draft |
All the blue bloods seemed to have gone early. Carson Fulmer, Tyler Stephenson, Garrett Whitley, Kolby Allard, Trent Clark, and Brady Aiken are all off the board. It's a reunion of all of last spring's most sought after cotillion escorts.
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 09:15 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Drafting with the compensation pick won from the Mets, the Roxx take Mike Nikorak of Stroudsburg HS in Pennsylvania. So maybe that pick comes back to haunt us, six years and Tommy John surgery down the road.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2015 09:18 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Mets picking NOW!!!!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2015 09:20 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Desmond Lindsay, OF, Florida HS
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MFS62 Jun 08 2015 09:26 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Not in the top 200?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2015 09:34 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Bats righthanded, has a chance to be a power-hitting CF but sounds like a project.
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2015 09:36 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Yeah, sounds like a high-ceiling but low floor type of guy who is athletic but will need a lot of fixing' and tinkering' to make run smoothly.
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2015 09:40 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Was Brandon Nimmo a guy off the radar to that extent?
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MFS62 Jun 09 2015 06:56 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Interesting stuff:
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 07:04 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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No. The questions about Nimmo back when he was drafted were the lower competition level he was playing with and against (Wyoming) and the reduced time he spent playing (no HS, summer league only) as compared to the 12 month/year guys. But while picking him where they did wasn't without risk, I don't remember his draft level being considered a 'reach' at the time. This guy sounds like he's on the complete opposite end of the risk/reward scale: super high ceiling if things all work out (Lorenzo Cain?) vs lots of athleticism but too few baseball skills (Jeff Franceour-ish?) if it doesn't. I'm just glad they didn't go for a guy from the Indoor Academy. We'd probably be stuck with someone totally out of shape if they did that.
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 07:48 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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The more accurate follow is probably the guy the Braves drafted at the slot where the Mets would have been as opposed the the guy the Rox chose 13 picks later: 14) Atlanta Braves: Kolby Allard, LHP, San Clemente HS, California: UCLA commit, candidate to go in top five until a stress reaction injury in his back sidelined him. When healthy, delivers easy 90+ heat with impressive curveball and low-effort delivery. Potentially a huge steal here for the Braves, could be top of rotation guy if it all comes together. Of course if the Mets had that pick they might have drafted somebody totally different so who knows. I remember someone back at the MoFo complaining about how the Mets could have had Jordan Zimmermann had they not given up their draft pick to sign Moises Alou. Problem was Zimmermann wasn't drafted until like 60 slots later so all the guy was doing was bitching about things a half-decade or more after the fact. It's amazing sometimes how much folks "know" (and claim to have known at the time) years after a draft is over. I recently saw a piece 're-drafting' the 2010 draft. Unlike most drafts looked at with five years worth of hindsight, the #1 overall then (Bryce Harper) would still be the #1 overall. But now in the Top-10 were (in some order, I forget exactly) Matt Harvey (originally #7 overall), Jacob deGrom (9th round - 272nd overall), Noah Syndergaard (38th overall). Great now for us, not so good if you were the teams drafting the likes of James Taillon (2nd), Barret Loux (6th overall), Karsten Whitson (9th), Deck McGuire (11th) or any one of the more than half of that first round (16 of 30) who have yet to play a day in the majors.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 09 2015 07:56 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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That's good! Because right-handed hitters are so rare!
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MFS62 Jun 09 2015 08:10 AM Re: Draft 2015 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2015 08:37 AM |
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The top position players the Mets have drafted recently have hit left handed. Nimmo, Conforto and Smith are lefty batters. Later
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Lefty Specialist Jun 09 2015 08:22 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
It's all a crap shoot. You hope for the best, but with high school guys it'll probably be 2019 before we know if this panned out or not.
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Fman99 Jun 09 2015 10:07 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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You have to take me, I'm a legacy!
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A Boy Named Seo Jun 09 2015 11:27 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Mets draft a 6'3" herky-jerky high school lefty named Max Wotell.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2015 11:35 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Batters check in, but they don't check out.
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 11:40 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
The Mets' insatiable appetites for Wotell have led them to go for Max Wotell.
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A Boy Named Seo Jun 09 2015 11:45 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
It does look violent. He pitches like he's pissed at his own elbow.
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 11:46 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Jacob Nix, taken #86 by the Padres.
Turns out that the Astros discovered an abnormality in the UCL, and because of stupid slot rules, reaching a compromise on the offer was impossible, but like Tom Seaver, he found he's suddenly couldn't take his talent to college either.
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 11:51 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Has a bit of an Alex Wood (Braves) thing going on there. I like that his full name is actually Maximilian
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 11:55 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
There are supplemental picks after round three now? WTFMLB?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2015 11:55 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
Dammit! Twins got Trey Cabbage just a few picks ahead of us.
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 11:57 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Actually it wasn't Nix's UCL that had the problem, it was 2014 #1 overall Brady Aiken that had the UCL problem. Prior to that turning up in the physical, Aiken was set to sign with Houston for 'below slot' money. That, in turn, would give the 'Stros leftover money to sign others above slot. Nix was one of those someones, but when Aiken didn't sign they didn't have the leftover money (if you don't sign a player at all you lose that allowance) so Nix's offer got pulled on account of Aiken's elbow and both wound up getting tossed back into this year's draft pool. Aiken, who was picked 17th overall by Cleveland yesterday, started off his off year pitching for the IMG Academy but almost immediately tore the UCL and had TJ surgery.
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 11:59 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Compensation for unsigned players from last year's draft most likely. I think 3rd round is as high as it goes for those.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2015 12:07 PM Re: Draft 2015 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2015 12:12 PM |
4th round: David Thompson, 3B, U of Miami
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A Boy Named Seo Jun 09 2015 12:10 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Apparently a 3B who can't throw. Vid --> http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/67565098/v ... st-baseman
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 12:39 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Thompson: got a baseball body. Long torso, with relatively short limbs. Those guys stick. I'm putting $20 on this guy.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2015 12:46 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Round 5: Thomas Szapucky, LHP from a Florida high school
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 12:50 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Mets southeast regional staff better get a sweet bonus: Florida, North Carolina, Florida, Florida.
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seawolf17 Jun 09 2015 12:51 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
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IF ONLY THERE WAS A COLLEGE SOMEWHERE UP HERE IN THE NORTHEAST, DICKHEADS. (Actually, I don't anticipate any of our guys going until tomorrow. But still.)
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2015 01:58 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Round 6 another Florida guy, Hillsborough JC RHP Chase Ingram
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 02:01 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Because every team needs a Chase, to go along with the Tylers and the Codys.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2015 02:25 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Mets call the Corey Hotline and this fat righthander from Texas Tech answers.
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A Boy Named Seo Jun 09 2015 02:35 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
He is hefty, 6'1", 250. Strikes out like 1 dude every 2 innings, but his ERA was 0.31. DUDES CANNOT HIT THIS GUY (I guess).
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 02:43 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Are we sure it's not Taylor Corey?
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 02:59 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
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4th round it is at #134 to ... the Nationals. Was selected by the Yanx in the 29th round last year.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 09 2015 03:00 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Back to Florida for Junior catcher Pat Mazeika from deGrom's alma mater Stetson U.
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 03:04 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Hopefully Szapucky will pitch to Plawecki at some point - just for the SCRABBLE points alone it would be worth it, or to hear Keith stumble over the pronunciations.
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 05:01 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
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I don't get this. The same thing happened with the Mets and Glen Johnson. You go to the trouble of selecting the son of an alum-in-good-standing, and you think you'd have a good-faith good idea beforehand how much money it's going to take to keep him out of college.
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2015 06:06 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
btw, the DOB on Desmond Lindsay -- 1/15/[u:1wzwcl1n]97[/u:1wzwcl1n]
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Edgy MD Jun 09 2015 06:08 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
It's the commitment to geographic diversity that makes this team great.
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MFS62 Jun 09 2015 09:30 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
But none from Georgia. Are they all still destined to go to the Braves?
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MFS62 Jun 10 2015 06:59 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Sickels liked Thompson as a possible first rounder:
Me likey. Later
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Lefty Specialist Jun 10 2015 07:58 AM Re: Draft 2015 |
That'll teach Duda not to sign a long-term contract.....
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Frayed Knot Jun 10 2015 12:54 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Rounds 10-22 yield 11 pitchers and a 2nd baseman, most of them college boys including Thomas Hacker (RHP) from St Johns.
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Edgy MD Jun 10 2015 01:45 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
UConn? How did Siena let Vincent Siena get away? It's like people aren't even trying anymore.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 10 2015 02:11 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
We got St. John's sidewinding closer, Thomas Hackimer
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Frayed Knot Jun 10 2015 02:41 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Witt Haggard is from Delta State in Mississippi. Of course he is.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 10 2015 02:46 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Witt's from Meridian Mississippi, home of Jimmie Rodgers, Steve Forbert and Oil Can Boyd.
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Edgy MD Jun 10 2015 02:48 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
Meridian is Number 10 on the map above.
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dgwphotography Jun 10 2015 05:53 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
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Possible future wifey alert: Youngest DGW danced with Siena's GF before she graduated...
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Frayed Knot Jun 11 2015 07:17 PM Re: Draft 2015 |
John Sickels' thumbnail review:
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