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He rebounds and starts to again pitch effectively. 4 votes

He continues in the rotation, despite continuing to pitch erratically. 1 votes

He gets demoted to the bullpen. 0 votes

He is disabled with an heretofore unknown injury. 6 votes

He is disabled with an absolutely bogus injury. 2 votes

He is traded, current market value be damned. 1 votes

Edgy MD
May 31 2015 02:55 PM

Two Months Down
MonthWLW-L%ERAGGSCGSHOIPHRERHRBBIBBSOHBPBKWPBFWHIPSO9SO/W
April21.6672.7444002328117390141001081.6095.51.56
May14.2005.56660034452621581232001581.5596.12.88


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Contract
YearAgeSalary
201528$7,000,000
201629$9,000,000
201730$10,000,000 Team Option, $500k Buyout
201831$11,000,000 Team Option, $500k Buyout

MFS62
May 31 2015 03:29 PM
Re: Next for Niese

By some strange coincidence, his next scheduled start is within a day of Matz' next scheduled start.
I voted disabled with a bogus injury. The only bad side of that is that a player can't be traded while on the DL.

Later

Frayed Knot
May 31 2015 03:43 PM
Re: Next for Niese

You also can't DL a guy for a bogus injury either - or at least you can't do either (trade him while DL'd, or DL him w/o a real injury) without his cooperation and I think he'd agree quicker to a trade than to being mothballed without cause.

Funny how Niese's WHiP wasn't all that good in April either.
He's seemed to be simultaneously lucky and unlucky this year, lucky in that he survived as long as he did with so many baserunners (had the knack for getting 'the big out' early on), but also unlucky in that he's been the victim of most of the errors so far and almost all of the unearned runs.

Haven't noticed any dip in velocity lately which was so apparent whenever he had troubles over the last two seasons, so I don't know what to make of what's going on. He not only is giving up a lot of hits + walks but seems to be bunching them as well, two spotless innings will pass while it looks like he's on his way to a gem, and then the roof caves in.

Zvon
May 31 2015 06:30 PM
Re: Next for Niese

I don't know about Niese. I haven't a clue what to do about him. The stats will back up that he falls apart when rattled but what bother's me more is the way he looks at those times. He looks broke down and busted. Probably all the other choices are more likely but I'll hope for the rebound. He has before.

d'Kong76
May 31 2015 06:41 PM
Re: Next for Niese

First vote for traded.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 31 2015 06:53 PM
Re: Next for Niese

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 31 2015 06:55 PM

Seemed to me he looked like a different guy this spring, his arm has gone three-quarters, it doesn't seem like he misses many bats anymore and as mentioned above the amount of guys reaching base against him was sure to catch up eventually. I'm sure all this is service of dealing with a wing that can't do what it used to but isn't completely debilitating yet.

None of this ought to be news to the Mets, I think they see him as a kind of ornery guy who they;re willing to give the chance to reinvent himself as long as he doesn't kill them; but it's getting to that point.

Wonder if he'd go for the Steve Trachsel cure. (pre-arranged Vegas vacation, 2 weeks, luxury suite, only travels to starts)

Benjamin Grimm
May 31 2015 06:54 PM
Re: Next for Niese

I voted this, mainly because that seems to be the trend this season:

He is disabled with an heretofore unknown injury.

Edgy MD
May 31 2015 07:00 PM
Re: Next for Niese

Can he go down to Vegas? I'm not so sure his contract and performance level is so prohibitive that he could be assumed to clear waivers to be sent down, as have other pitchers. That's why I speak of phantom injuries. Sometimes the only way to send a vet down for a period is for him to be disabled and then visit the minors on a rehab turn.

I'm not doubting a vacation with a finessey lefty like Frank Viola wouldn't be a good thing, but I'm not sure Vegas is good for anybody's kahnfidence.

TransMonk
May 31 2015 09:41 PM
Re: Next for Niese

Looks like a 2011 Niese who gives up more home runs while recording fewer strikeouts.

Worries here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 31 2015 10:31 PM
Re: Next for Niese

He certainly doesn't look like a guy with a repaired shoulder.

G-Fafif
May 31 2015 10:36 PM
Re: Next for Niese

Spinal stenosis, presumably. That's usually what it is when nobody has any idea what's up.

Fman99
Jun 01 2015 05:35 AM
Re: Next for Niese

Traded for a box of Big League Chew.

I think they DL him with a bullshit injury to keep him off the field for a few weeks. He's pulled his Meyerhoff tendon, I bet.