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Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff May 31 2015 06:17 PM Edited 15 time(s), most recently on Jun 12 2015 12:25 PM

Name all four interlopers in the same post and Zvon will make you a 1972 style Topps Ron Taylor baseball card. Flip it. Trade it. Cherish it. [fimg=225]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8797/18335262155_307f22e6b9_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/487/18148732129_bfee45f0d1_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/258/18671113542_34e852ffdf_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7732/17702501743_76c4df5f02_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8828/18319120992_57533e3cc3_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8842/17702501853_b3db91f4a4_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=245]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7788/17702501803_da517784a0_o.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/347/18219049618_ba59cfea3f_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=245]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7788/17702501823_1123e4d0a0_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7748/18319279392_38cb611ce0_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/358/18135375680_83caf650ee_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8786/18366267311_6e8c9df68b_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=245]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7759/18135375630_63f27f47b2_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=245]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8890/17702501783_f7795034bd_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/372/18336305155_a2427d654c_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8872/17702501843_2f4f170712_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=245]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8892/18319120892_342fa0798c_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=245]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7781/18319120952_62071244c3_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=242]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3LCabh5GfMs/VW-w40antPI/AAAAAAAAZt4/obxiDYQFejY/s468/73pfcBOB%252520MILLER-z15.png[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7773/18309970396_69fe4bc117_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7786/17715386693_02cb6aa721_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8819/18246342030_43efe7dc2f_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=235]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/357/18135375660_b1a24e6328_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8870/18135375580_dee4b14e22_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/343/18309773236_2f5315d1d4_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8883/18319121022_b6aab76e3f_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7735/18135375700_077b73c186_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/555/18319121052_74c2c81e03_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=250]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7738/18319121062_6cb13d3031_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8807/18309657826_297dc6f19f_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/311/18225888859_75ece2be4b_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/261/18135375720_33a5f95779_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=225]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7758/18335262185_b59020048d_o.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8865/18247862399_6be8d150b9_o.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=473]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8787/18135504170_61b9956a41_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=473]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/410/18135588130_e4ec9db00e_o.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=555]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7746/18135504200_cdd2554719_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=345]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7776/18135504150_7ff1440474_o.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=333]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8762/18148732199_5455743da0_o.jpg[/fimg][fimg=466]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7734/18148732179_7818467776_o.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=444]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7733/18335262235_d600e76ae7_o.jpg[/fimg]

Zvon May 31 2015 06:23 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

I will do that thing.

Zvon May 31 2015 06:25 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

Steve Swisher and Dave "The Face" Roberts?

batmagadanleadoff May 31 2015 06:44 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

Zvon wrote: I will do that thing. It's gotta be a Padres card.

Lefty Specialist Jun 01 2015 06:22 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

I hate the Padres because they started the whole camo-uniform trend.

Frayed Knot Jun 01 2015 06:57 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

Yes they did, although as a big military town I give them a pass on it. Blame instead the league and the individual teams with their copy-cat mentality who either can't come up with any new ideas on their own or are afraid they'll be accused of not supporting the troops and turned into a latter-day Kramer getting accosted for not 'wearing the ribbon'. [fimg=300]http://media.tumblr.com/f08a5e3460a3dc663e0bc3f22008fca4/tumblr_inline_mmtm10XnXu1qz4rgp.jpg[/fimg] Who is it that doesn't want to wear de ribbon?

Edgy MD Jun 01 2015 07:15 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

I agree with that sentiment. Imagine how many homers he'd've had if he opened his eyes.

seawolf17 Jun 01 2015 07:27 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

In 1988, Topps thought Marvell Wynne, coming off a season where he was a pinch-hitter (only started 40 games) and hit .250, was worthy of a box bottom card? I have zero recollection of this. Also, Marvell Wynne was definitely never a Met.

MFS62 Jun 01 2015 07:36 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 01 2015 07:38 AM

Although they drafted him, Alan Zinter never played for the Mets. Neither did Steve Swisher.(Don't remember him being a coach) But I didn't remember seeing Rod Gaspar batting righty, either. But he did (he was a switch hitter). Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 01 2015 07:38 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

That's some spooky shit right there. What's the deal with all these fake cards like this?

MFS62 Jun 01 2015 07:42 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

And Groucho Marx said he'd never be a member of a club that would want him to be its President. Later

seawolf17 Jun 01 2015 07:55 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

Swisher coached in the mid-90s. We had this discussion in the Cubs thread. So it's Zinter and Wynne as the interlopers; Wynne was in the Mets system in the mid-80s.

SteveJRogers Jun 01 2015 09:35 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: What's the deal with all these fake cards like this? I'd imagine they are created by users of Out of the Park Developments as images for players without cards.

SteveJRogers Jun 01 2015 09:38 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

seawolf17 wrote: In 1988, Topps thought Marvell Wynne, coming off a season where he was a pinch-hitter (only started 40 games) and hit .250, was worthy of a box bottom card? I have zero recollection of this. Also, Marvell Wynne was definitely never a Met. IIRC, those were season highlights cards, hence Wynne being used... Quick trip to the Trading Card Database, and yup.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 09:49 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 01 2015 11:06 AM

SteveJRogers wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: What's the deal with all these fake cards like this? I'd imagine they are created by users of Out of the Park Developments as images for players without cards. Someone on the web who goes by the name of "tibob" is creating cards from those toppsvault The Man From Topps photos in the style of that Swisher "card". In this thread, I used the Taylor and McAndrew Padres tibobs because no other Padres cards exist for those players. I also used a Gaspar tibob because the only other Gaspar Padres card I could find, actual or custom, was his '71 Topps, which is a capless head shot of Rod in his old Mets uniform -- not as much fun to look at as the tibob, sez me. And then, because I am so enamored of those toppsvault pics anyways, I used a coupl'a other Padres tibobs just because, even though other cards exist for those players.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 09:50 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

seawolf17 wrote: In 1988, Topps thought Marvell Wynne, coming off a season where he was a pinch-hitter (only started 40 games) and hit .250, was worthy of a box bottom card? I have zero recollection of this. Also, Marvell Wynne was definitely never a Met. How could you tell Wynne's card is a box-bottom (it is!) just by looking at it?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 09:53 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

seawolf17 wrote: Swisher coached in the mid-90s. We had this discussion in the Cubs thread. So it's Zinter and Wynne as the interlopers; Wynne was in the Mets system in the mid-80s. I didn't card Zinter. Unless I did unwittingly. Where do you see Zinter? Or perhaps, Alex Torres is subliminally reminding you of the original big hatted Met. Also, there are now four interlopers pictured. I added the other two when I edited the thread to include some Padres managers I had initially omitted.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 09:56 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That's some spooky shit right there. Dave Kingman's 1978 Hostess card.

seawolf17 Jun 01 2015 09:56 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: How could you tell Wynne's card is a box-bottom (it is!) just by looking at it? Because those were the only 88s with anything other than a white border. #baseballcardnerd batmagadanleadoff wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Swisher coached in the mid-90s. We had this discussion in the Cubs thread. So it's Zinter and Wynne as the interlopers; Wynne was in the Mets system in the mid-80s. I didn't card Zinter. Unless I did unwittingly. Where do you see Zinter? Or perhaps, Alex Torres is subliminally reminding you of the original big hatted Met. Also, there are now four interlopers pictured. I added the other two when I edited the thread to include some Padres managers I had initially omitted. I didn't see Zinter either; just assumed someone else did. There's a lot of cards up there. Zinter was never a Padre either, so I'm not even sure how this whole thing happened. Wynne is still right, though.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 11:08 AM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

There are no Topps cards of McReynolds as a Padre. I figured though, that by now, what with the make your own baseball card fad picking up more steam with each passing year, I'd be able to easily find DIY or custom Topps Padres cards of McReynolds. I couldn't. Not even one.

seawolf17 Jun 01 2015 12:17 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: There are no Topps cards of McReynolds as a Padre. I figured though, that by now, what with the make your own baseball card fad picking up more steam with each passing year, I'd be able to easily find DIY or custom Topps Padres cards of McReynolds. I couldn't. Not even one. As the forum's resident KMac fan, I asked about that once. He didn't sign a contract with them until he got traded. Not sure why he signed with Fleer and Donruss and not Topps, but that was why.

Zvon Jun 01 2015 01:26 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

Didn't I give someone some McReynolds Padres borders to make cards with? Where's the beef!?

seawolf17 Jun 01 2015 02:15 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

Zvon wrote: Didn't I give someone some McReynolds Padres borders to make cards with? Where's the beef!? That was me. Still haven't done anything with them; I should probably get on that. :)

Zvon Jun 01 2015 02:44 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

seawolf17 wrote: Didn't I give someone some McReynolds Padres borders to make cards with? Where's the beef!? That was me. Still haven't done anything with them; I should probably get on that. :) Tsk,tsk. Foooooooooooor shame ;) Batmags:I will make a rare exception and do that thing that involves making a Padre card. I'll do it, but my heart won't be in it. It'll be a heartless card.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 06:23 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

Zvon wrote: Batmags:I will make a rare exception and do that thing that involves making a Padre card. I'll do it, but my heart won't be in it. It'll be a heartless card. Looks like you'll be off the hook anyways, unless you wanna do this for the fun of it: Nobody's nailed the interloper question yet and I'm in the mood to post the answers soon. The Mets next opponent is the Diamondbacks and I'm probably not gonna do a card thread for that team. They've been around for less than 20 years, which means that most of the cards shown will be of the ugly and busy and garish and difficult to read variety. Plus, if there aren't any players from the late '60's and early '70's, I lose a lot of interest and these card threads are mostly about me anyhow. I mean, I get a big kick out of seeing Ron Taylor or Don Hahn in an opponent's uniform just because it's Ron Taylor or Don Hahn. But some fringe player from the '90's or 00's -- and let's face it, most of baseball's players are fringy -- I'm getting to the point where I can barely remember a good number of them as Mets, let alone as a member of some other team. Steve Reed? I'm talking about you, for example.

Zvon Jun 01 2015 08:28 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Meh, if it's not a Met it's no fun. I kid, kinda- but the player has to be someone I like and/or respect to get into it. Taylor would make that cut. The threads are not about you. But I understand what you mean. You do it for your enjoyment. I think everyone enjoys these threads. Wow, that B&W pic of Hahn is a rarity. Is Steve Reed a clue? Now I have to go back and look thru all the cards,lol. Did I really get Swisher? I figured the other was either Dave Roberts or Doug Rader, those 2 D.R.'s I always mix up.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 08:41 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Zvon wrote: Meh, if it's not a Met it's no fun.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 01 2015 09:24 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers) Edited 10 time(s), most recently on Jun 03 2015 03:22 PM

So ... the four interlopers are.... [fimg=255]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8892/18319120892_342fa0798c_o.jpg[/fimg] Marvell Wynne -- one of many 1980's Mets major-league likely prospects, occasionally and optimistically compared to Mookie Wilson. Marvell never made the Mets big club. You say Jerry, I say Gerry Moses -- not technically a Met, but a Phantom Met, which makes him an interloper here. I guess if you're talking about players who never played for the Mets, then I'd agree with Moses's designation as not a Met. Moses never got into a Met game so yeah, he never played for the Mets. But he was on the major league 25 man roster; he took batting practice with Dave Kingman and Joe Torre and probably warmed up Tom Seaver and Jerry Koosman and got to eat from the post-game buffets; if the Mets were on the road during his stay, Moses flew first class with the Mets and checked into the Mets hotel and was assigned a Mets roommate. And so in my book, which no one is reading, that makes Moses a Met. He's a Met --- just not a Met that played for the Mets. Jesse Gonder -- Gonder's MLB career ended in 1967, two years before the Padres inaugural season. I struggled to find any evidence linking Gonder to the expansion Padres or any of their minor league farm teams. I did discover that Gonder was the league MVP for the San Diego Padres --- but that was in the AAA PCL, in 1962. Back then, the San Diego Padres were a Reds affiliate. So that wouldn't explain Gonder's appearance on a 1969 Topps Padres card. After some further poking around the net, I found this article from Ebony Magazine's 1969 Baseball Preview Issue, linking Gonder to the expansion Padres. [fimg=404]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8804/18365023702_768e02cd44_o.jpg[/fimg] Obviously there's a connection between Gonder and the '69 Padres given that Topps card and Gonder's appearance in Ebony Magazine, modeling a Padres batting helmet. But what's the connection? Gonder never played for the Pods, and the Padres don't even appear in Gonder's baseball-reference transactions section. Some more poking and voila! Apparently, Gonder was to the Padres what Moses was to the Mets -- a major league catcher on his team's 25 man roster who never got into a game -- a Phantom Padre. And therefore, an interloper here. Bobby Klaus -- Klaus's major league career ended in 1965, so, like Gonder, he couldn't have played for the Padres either. So why would Topps make a 1969 Padres card for Klaus four years after he'd played his last Major League game? Here's why: Klaus stayed in baseball after his major league career ended, hanging on with several minor league teams. In 1968, the Padres acquired Klaus from the Phillies organization in the Rule 5 draft. I'd bet that Topps then carded Klaus, believing that his Rule 5 status would guarantee the veteran Klaus playing time on the nascent expansion team, with virtually every position, starting and bench, up for grabs. It never happened. But you already knew this because I told y'all that Klaus's MLB career ended in '65. A few days before the start of the '69 season, the Padres traded Klaus to the Pirates for ex-Met Chris Cannizzaro and Tommie Sisk.

Zvon Jun 01 2015 10:44 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Zvon wrote: Meh, if it's not a Met it's no fun. Warren wrote: but the player has to be someone I like and/or respect to get into it. Great info regarding the interlopers. Pods had some nice players to start, w/ Cito, Nate & Ollie.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2015 05:04 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Still jonesing for that '72 style Topps Padres card of Ron Taylor despite whiffing on the interloper quiz? No problem. Identify the Friar with the Mets connection pictured below and you can still win that card that zvon will make. And no, that ain't Matt Harvey's uncle.

SteveJRogers Jun 02 2015 09:30 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Per a uni listing of SD Pads on B-R, Sam Perlozzo, 1979.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 02 2015 09:42 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

SteveJRogers wrote: Per a uni listing of SD Pads on B-R, Sam Perlozzo, 1979. So much for the honor system.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 01:35 AM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Per a uni listing of SD Pads on B-R, Sam Perlozzo, 1979. So much for the honor system. Hey Rogers: You still won the quiz. You did good, kid. You're all aces even if you essentially looked up the answer instead of relying on your facial recognition powers, which is sort of or exactly like cheating. Plus, now zvon gets to make us a card. How about instead of the Ron Taylor, we make your prize a '73 Bob Miller Padres Topps from the The Man From Topps image below? It's easier work than the Taylor because there's no watermark to remove. (For the first few months to maybe a year or so, Topps would release these archival images without any watermarks. The Miller is obviously an early toppsvault release). And this thread would look a whole lot better with a '73 Bob Miller. So everybody wins.

Edgy MD Jun 03 2015 07:50 AM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

While rabbit-holing a few weeks back, I discovered a minor league outfielder named "Donald Mazzilli," and I was going to guess him. Is he a sibling or cousin of Lido?

Zvon Jun 03 2015 01:33 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

I don't make cards for cheaters. HA! I kid. Personally, if a quiz is unanswered long enough I see np with looking stuff up. As long as you learn something. Ask Rogers the question next month and if he can't answer it w/o looking it up again, he must return the digital non 3 dimensional card & I will delete it from reality. I'll have a '73 Miller up by game time.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jun 03 2015 03:02 PM Re: Friars Club (plus two interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: seawolf17 wrote: In 1988, Topps thought Marvell Wynne, coming off a season where he was a pinch-hitter (only started 40 games) and hit .250, was worthy of a box bottom card? I have zero recollection of this. Also, Marvell Wynne was definitely never a Met. How could you tell Wynne's card is a box-bottom (it is!) just by looking at it? The blue border is the key. I had no idea Bruce Bochey was every a Met.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 03:09 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

This is great. You have a couple of options with the Padre Miller. You could put him on a regular '73 Topps. Or you could do a '73 Topps O-Pee-Chee style card ("Now with Mets")-- Miller started that season as a Padre but ended it on the Mets. So there's another Met connection for you. Original Met a Met once more. Once a Met, always a Met. When you're a Met, you're a Met all the way. Or you could put Miller on a '74 Padres card with the "Nat'l Lea." designation instead of the team name, as Topps hedged their bet on the Pods potential move to DC. That fantasy card wouldn't be historically accurate or likely, though -- not that we wouldn't wanna see it anyways. Miller was two teams removed from the Padres when the '74 cards went to press, so there's no way Miller would've ended up on a Padres card in '74. [fimg=263]https://shlabotnikreport.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1974-jones-wnl.jpg[/fimg] Good luck with this.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 03:45 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: This is great. You have a couple of options with the Padre Miller. You could put him on a regular '73 Topps. Or you could do a '73 Topps O-Pee-Chee style card ("Now with Mets")-- Miller started that season as a Padre but ended it on the Mets. So there's another Met connection for you. Original Met a Met once more. Once a Met, always a Met. When you're a Met, you're a Met all the way. Or you could put Miller on a '74 Padres card with the "Nat'l Lea." designation instead of the team name, as Topps hedged their bet on the Pods potential move to DC. That fantasy card wouldn't be historically accurate or likely, though -- not that we wouldn't wanna see it anyways. Miller was two teams removed from the Padres when the '74 cards went to press, so there's no way Miller would've ended up on a Padres card in '74. [fimg=263]https://shlabotnikreport.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/1974-jones-wnl.jpg[/fimg] Good luck with this. Heads up. Change of plans. That Miller pic belongs on a '71 card. Miller was a two-time Padre ('71 & '73). He's pictured in a '71 uniform.

Zvon Jun 03 2015 04:39 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

I already had started it and went w/the Padres. I could just change the team and and have the notation say "Now With Mets". I didn't get to see those types of OPC cards til the later 80's and always have been a big fan of those. I thought I'd use the notation to make the card unique onto Mr. Rogers. But I wish I went the "Now With Mets" route. That would have been much cooler.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 04:45 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Zvon wrote: I already had started it and went w/the Padres. I could just change the team and and have the notation say "Now With Mets". I didn't get to see those types of OPC cards til the later 80's and always have been a big fan of those. I thought I'd use the notation to make the card unique onto Mr. Rogers. But I wish I went the "Now With Mets" route. That would have been much cooler. That's great work. The '73 style's perfect. Topps occasionally used photos that were years old so there'd be nothing unusual about a '71 pic on a '73 card. I agree with you that "Now With Mets" is preferable. Maybe one card for Rogers (the one you made) and one for the thread just like the Rogers card, only swapping "Now with Mets" with the Rogers text --- but leave the Padres name on the card.

Zvon Jun 03 2015 04:59 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

That shouldn't take long at all. But I'm eatin dinner. for the game. One of these days I want to try and simulate a very bad airbrush job card, but that would take some time to get just right. It has to be good enough, but also be bad enough.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 05:06 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Whatcha eating? I'm gonna make up a quiz in this thread and give out a jazzed up Klaus '69 Padres Topps card as the prize. The quiz is gonna be real easy. [fimg=333]https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7750/18247956120_e6a7ff7b64_o.jpg[/fimg]

Zvon Jun 03 2015 05:09 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Chicken cordon bleu. If I win you have to give me copies of all your "Man From Topps" photos. Or a link to em. ;)

Zvon Jun 03 2015 07:14 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: That's great work. The '73 style's perfect. Topps occasionally used photos that were years old so there'd be nothing unusual about a '71 pic on a '73 card. I agree with you that "Now With Mets" is preferable. Maybe one card for Rogers (the one you made) and one for the thread just like the Rogers card, only swapping "Now with Mets" with the Rogers text --- but leave the Padres name on the card. Thank you. Don't we need a pic of Miller on the Mets (circa 1974) to make this work? I'm looking for one. I have found a couple, a bad color one and a small B&W. The oldest Mets yearbook I currently own is a 1975 one. Does anyone have a '74 yearbook and want to be bothered with giving Miller a scan? I have the one from Centerfield Maz. Can't be used unless the name plate is removed and the missing uniform parts photoshopped in. I don't know if that's worth the time it'll take with such an inferior image. If I can get a bigger and better copy of that photograph, I'll give it a shot.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 07:43 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

z ... This is getting complicated. Just take out the rogers text for the 2d version of the Miller card. It'll be a regular '73 Topps style Padres card of Bob L. That'd be great and much appreciated and all that other jazz.

Edgy MD Jun 03 2015 07:59 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

My scanner is offline, so here is a super cellphone shot of that Miller portrait. [fimg=800:2a8ksqws]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/bobmiller.jpg[/fimg:2a8ksqws] I aim to please, and I figured you would also want some hot, sexy, low-res topless-Rube Walker-teasing-Yogi's-hair action. [fimg=800:2a8ksqws]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/img_0136.jpg[/fimg:2a8ksqws]

Zvon Jun 03 2015 08:00 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: z ... This is getting complicated. Just take out the rogers text for the 2d version of the Miller card. It'll be a regular '73 Topps style Padres card of Bob L. That'd be great and much appreciated and all that other jazz. Can do.

Zvon Jun 03 2015 08:02 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Edgy MD wrote: My scanner is offline, so here is a super cellphone shot of that Miller portrait. I aim to please, and I figured you would also want some hot, sexy, low-res topless-Rube Walker-teasing-Yogi's-hair action. Thank you Edge. I'll see what I can do with that.

Edgy MD Jun 03 2015 08:06 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Really? Go crazy. It's actually saved at something like four times the size displayed above.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 08:08 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

That's super. That card's going into the big card post atop this thread. I can't wait! For the record, if you wanted to do an O-Pee-Chee version that's stylistically accurate, (and that's entirely up to you, I'm not asking - I'm totally fine with that 2d Miller card) you wouldn't want Miller in a Mets uniform. The photo's supposed to be dated. You could use that Miller/Padre photo, or any other photo of Miller before he joined the Mets. Since we're talking about replicating '73, that'd mean Miller in either a Padres or Pirates uniform, the two teams he played for in '73 before coming to the Mets. Then, you'd change the team name on the card you made from Padres to Mets. And finally, you'd add that OPC text over the photo, indicating that Miller is now a Met. That's the formula. 1. Current team name 2. Dated photo with prior team 3. Updating text

Zvon Jun 03 2015 08:21 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Edgy MD wrote: Really? Go crazy. It's actually saved at something like four times the size displayed above. I might have to pull to make it square, but I've done that before. It's the best copy of that photo I've seen. That's shrunk thru the board tho, right? Then if I save it, it should be the orig size unless you manually shrunk the pic yourself. I'm tempted to photoshop a man-bra on Rube but he doesn't really need one. re above: B.B.Ref is telling me Bob L made a stop in Detroit on his way to NY for his second stint. This is my fav home made OPChee card (so far) [fimg=200]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IYND42cEkOM/UxrXnO9-dCI/AAAAAAAANZ4/5bj7AS9A-Cs/s800/72opcWILLIAMS-z14.png[/fimg]

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 08:21 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Bob Miller's last card as an active player and the original image Topps used to make that card.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 03 2015 08:29 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

Really? Go crazy. It's actually saved at something like four times the size displayed above. I might have to pull to make it square, but I've done that before. It's the best copy of that photo I've seen. That's shrunk thru the board tho, right? Then if I save it, it should be the orig size unless you manually shrunk the pic yourself. I'm tempted to photoshop a man-bra on Rube but he doesn't really need one. re above: B.B.Ref is telling me Bob L made a stop in Detroit on his way to NY for his second stint. This is my fav home made OPChee card (so far) [fimg=200]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IYND42cEkOM/UxrXnO9-dCI/AAAAAAAANZ4/5bj7AS9A-Cs/s800/72opcWILLIAMS-z14.png[/fimg] That's right. He came to the Padres from the Pirates. I probably got mixed up, being aware of that Pirate to Met transformation shown above. There ain't no Tiger card of Bob L. either,and if you check out Miller's record, you could see why. Watermarked Not Watermarked [fimg=333]https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8764/18252767710_ebb0e3e9fa_o.jpg[/fimg] That Williams card is going into the next Giants card thread, two opponents away.

Zvon Jun 04 2015 05:20 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

This is the best I could do. Pulled it square, tried getting more blue to come out. If I ever use this I think I'll look for a similar pose by some other Met and replace that entire shoulder, cut him out, and stick him in Shea. Let this Miller be entered into the internet Metropolitan Portrait Collection. [fimg=600]https://metsinpeace.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/bobmiller.jpg[/fimg][fimg=600]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zlGvqEwkPYs/VXDZkOIhMZI/AAAAAAAAZuM/jDAkrHIy4A4/s1024/bobmiller15.png[/fimg]

Edgy MD Jun 05 2015 08:42 AM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

If you want to delete that text box and touch up the empty area by hand (the way 1970s Topps would), you could get the toughest part done by stealing the Mets logo off of the shoulder of the player to his left and manipulating it into the folded position.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 07 2015 05:19 PM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

You can learn a lot from The Man from Topps. Bob Miller's last major league gig may have been with the 1974 Mets, but apparently, Miller didn't think he was through at the end of that season. Below is a The Man from Topps photo of Miller in a Padres road uniform, taken in 1975. The road uni Miller's wearing was a one year only style, so it had to have been 1975. Also, Miller never wore #50 in either of previous two stints with the Pads. So it appears that Miller gave it at least one more chance with San Diego in the Spring of '75. OE: Miller pitched 25 innings for the Padres AAA team in 1975, the last professional innings Miller would pitch.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 10 2015 08:14 AM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

I'm logged in, yet I'm not permitted to edit the top post. I wanted to add Dick Selma, whom I'd omitted. What gives?

batmagadanleadoff Jun 12 2015 09:31 AM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm logged in, yet I'm not permitted to edit the top post. So I'll assume that editing posts more than a week old is now forbidden?

Edgy MD Jun 12 2015 09:47 AM Re: Friars Club (plus four interlopers)

No idea why that should be so. OE: See if you can edit it now.