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IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Frayed Knot Jun 16 2015 09:25 PM

Series shifts north of the border where they normally pay more attention to hockey but also where the Maple Leafs haven't been in the playoffs for like several decades. Niese vs Drew Hutchinson. 7:07 first pitch Hutchinson is by some measures their best starter (5-1) but with pretty lousy peripherals [5.75 ERA, 1.46 WHiP] you get the idea that he's benefitting more from his offense than the average pitcher. Many of his really bad outings were from back in April so he has been somewhat better lately. But he also got his ass kicked by Boston in his last start [8 runs in 2.1 IP] which made it the 5th time in 13 starts that he failed to complete the 5th inning of a start. Overall he's thrown in a lot more clunkers than gems. As mentioned during tonight's telecast, the soon to be 25 y/o was minor league roomies with d'Arnaud back in A-ball

d'Kong76 Jun 17 2015 07:57 AM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

NY Mets at Toronto When: 7:07 PM ET, Wednesday, June 17, 2015 Where: Rogers Centre, Toronto, Ontario SportsDirect Inc. The New York Mets ended the Toronto Blue Jays' bid for a franchise-best 12-game winning streak and added a decisive victory the following day to remain perfect in 11 home contests against their interleague adversary. The Mets hope their good fortune carries with them north of the border as they vie for their sixth win in seven outings on Wednesday when the teams play the first of the final two contests of their four-game set. Wilmer Flores, who had the game-winning single in the 11th inning on Monday and a sacrifice fly the following night, has hit safely in five straight contests while recording as many RBIs in that span. The 3-2 victory on Tuesday wrapped up a successful eight-game homestand (5-3) for the National League East-leading Mets, who begin an eight-game trek having lost 19 of their 29 road contests this season. A change in venue could help return Toronto to its winning ways, as its 20-12 mark is among the best in the American League. Edwin Encarnacion extended his hitting streak to nine games with a double, but he had one of his team's two base-running blunders that ultimately led to its undoing on Tuesday. TV: 7:07 p.m. ET, SNY (New York), RSN (Toronto) PITCHING MATCHUP: Mets LH Jonathon Niese (3-6, 4.24 ERA) vs. Blue Jays RH Drew Hutchison (5-1, 5.75) Niese yielded four runs on five hits in seven innings in a no-decision against San Francisco on Thursday to remain winless since May 9. The 28-year-old is 0-4 with a gaudy 7.96 ERA in the stretch, with six of the nine homers he's allowed this season coming in that span. Niese was rocked in his lone career meeting with Toronto, permitting four homers and eight runs total on as many hits in three innings to take the loss. Hutchison yielded a career-high eight runs in his last trip to the mound - and three homers to boot - before exiting after 2 1/3 innings against Boston on Friday. The 24-year-old was fortunate to walk away with a no-decision after Toronto rallied for a 13-10 win, which has also been the case in his road performances. Hutchison owns a 1-0 mark away from home despite posting a sky-high 9.46 ERA and 1.89 WHIP while allowing the opposition to bat .350 against him. WALK-OFFS: 1. Toronto SS Jose Reyes went 1-for-9 with two strikeouts in the first two games versus his former team. 2. New York CF Darrell Ceciliani is 7-for-16 in his last seven contests. 3. Blue Jays RHP Aaron Sanchez (lat injury) is unlikely to return from the disabled list in time to start Sunday's game against Baltimore, according to manager John Gibbons.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 08:06 AM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

d'Kong76 wrote: The New York Mets ended the Toronto Blue Jays' bid for a franchise-best 12-game winning streak and added a decisive victory the following day to remain perfect in 11 home contests against their interleague adversary. I'd call that win a lot of lovely things, but "decisive" isn't one of them.

d'Kong76 Jun 17 2015 01:53 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

@cgrand3 RF @juanlagares2 CF Duda 1B @mcuddy23 DH @TdArnaud C Flores SS Ceciliani LF Tejada 3B @Dilson_H 2B @kcmets #cpftoocool

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 02:07 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Ceciliani is going to get winded.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2015 02:37 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Hey he's hitting .400 in June, run that horse until it drops.

Gwreck Jun 17 2015 03:12 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Also: when your other DH options are Plawecki, Campbell, Mayberry and DeGrom, Ceciliani seems like a pretty good choice.

Ceetar Jun 17 2015 03:33 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

oh, and btw, Ron Darling doing the PbP since [crossout:1cn77bwe]Gary got detained by customs[/crossout:1cn77bwe] [crossout:1cn77bwe]has outstanding warrants in Canada[/crossout:1cn77bwe] getting a well-deserved break.

d'Kong76 Jun 17 2015 04:21 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Reyes SS Donaldson DH Bautista RF Encarnacion 1B Colabello LF Martin C Valencia 3B Pillar CF Goins 2B

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2015 04:38 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

And, while we're 'in country', remember what fake Ben Affleck told us, it's Toron'o - you don't pronounce the second 't'

Ashie62 Jun 17 2015 05:03 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

High scoring game coming.

Lefty Specialist Jun 17 2015 05:39 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Niese is maddening when he can't close out an inning. But stupid Blue Jay baserunning saves the day.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 05:43 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

I missed whatever happened there. It reads like a crazy scene. Was it a straight steal of home? I hope they post a replay.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 05:46 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

That was about as far as Tejada can hit it. Nice to see Granderson split the defense. It seems rare. His hits are either over the outfielder or in front of it, but the defense is typically so bunched, he rarely gets in between.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 05:47 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Come on, Duda. Be Duda.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 05:48 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

This is an extremely boring looking ballpark. Remember when the cutouts were new & different looking. I never liked em. And I didn't know that stuff about the warning track. There oughta be a rule. Using turf there negates the reason for a warning track.

Lefty Specialist Jun 17 2015 05:52 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Zvon wrote: I missed whatever happened there. It reads like a crazy scene. Was it a straight steal of home? I hope they post a replay. The runner at first took off, and then the runner on third took off for home. The Mets sniffed it out and got the runner in a rundown, tagging him for the third out.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 05:54 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Ruben: "Who you calling lazy, José?"

Zvon Jun 17 2015 05:55 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Lefty Specialist wrote: I missed whatever happened there. It reads like a crazy scene. Was it a straight steal of home? I hope they post a replay. The runner at first took off, and then the runner on third took off for home. The Mets sniffed it out and got the runner in a rundown, tagging him for the third out. TY. Ha. Somebody sucks. Replay just popped up. I'll play it next break. WOW! Great play by Mr T. OE: That was past him.

Gwreck Jun 17 2015 05:58 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Ronnie doing pretty well with play-by-play so far. Except he keeps saying (for the last 3 half innings) that there is no score.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 06:00 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Zvon wrote: Zvon wrote: I missed whatever happened there. It reads like a crazy scene. Was it a straight steal of home? I hope they post a replay. The runner at first took off, and then the runner on third took off for home. The Mets sniffed it out and got the runner in a rundown, tagging him for the third out. TY. Ha. Somebody sucks. Replay just popped up. I'll play it next break. It is Valencia who sucks. That read as exciting but witnessing it, it viewed as stupid. Heads up in the infield though.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2015 06:15 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

We make too many ordinary pitchers look good.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 06:21 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

This guy sure seems to have found a hole in Dilson's swing.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 06:28 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Frayed Knot wrote: We make too many ordinary pitchers look good. I know I feel this way too but I'd like to think: doesn't every team? If you watch another team as much as we watch the Mets, wouldn't we feel the same way at times watching that team? I have to tell myself yes. Or I think I'd have gone insane long ago.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 06:30 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

HA! Anyone with legs on the Jays sucks!

Zvon Jun 17 2015 06:38 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Niiice. Cuddy drives one into the gap. That must not be like the old fake turf cause that should'a zipped right thru to the wall.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 06:38 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

There seem to be little pellets or what looks like chemical dust kicking up off the turf when the ball hits or a running foot plants. Is it rain or something?

Zvon Jun 17 2015 06:40 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Edgy MD wrote: There seem to be little pellets or what looks like chemical dust kicking up off the turf when the ball hits or a running foot plants. Is it rain or something? I saw that. After the closeup they showed of the warning track "turf", I'm mystified. Do they sprinkle it with dirt?

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2015 06:41 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Zvon wrote: We make too many ordinary pitchers look good. I know I feel this way too but I'd like to think: doesn't every team? If you watch another team as much as we watch the Mets, wouldn't we feel the same way at times watching that team? I have to tell myself yes. Or I think I'd have gone insane long ago. Yeah, but fans of bad hitting teams say it more often.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2015 06:43 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: There seem to be little pellets or what looks like chemical dust kicking up off the turf when the ball hits or a running foot plants. Is it rain or something? I saw that. After the closeup they showed of the warning track "turf", I'm mystified. Do they sprinkle it with dirt? Ground-up rubber tires (and similar stuff). It's been used on turf fields for years, although lately there have been reports of cancer causing ingredients in those mini-pellets causing concern where it's used in playing fields for schools or parks.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 06:51 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Frayed Knot wrote: There seem to be little pellets or what looks like chemical dust kicking up off the turf when the ball hits or a running foot plants. Is it rain or something? I saw that. After the closeup they showed of the warning track "turf", I'm mystified. Do they sprinkle it with dirt? Ground-up rubber tires (and similar stuff). It's been used on turf fields for years, although lately there have been reports of cancer causing ingredients in those mini-pellets causing concern where it's used in playing fields for schools or parks. Wow. Re: Bad hitting teams: TruDat.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 07:00 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Guys, support your local lefty.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:03 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Wow. We double up Reyes around the horn! Tejada has been playing a very impressive 3rd base.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2015 07:06 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

We got to get to at least one of these Jays' relievers. ... and so it begins.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:07 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Nice hitting Mr H. Lets get a few guys on for Duda. LGM!

d'Kong76 Jun 17 2015 07:08 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Frayed Knot wrote: Ground-up rubber tires (and similar stuff). It's been used on turf fields for years, although lately there have been reports of cancer causing ingredients in those mini-pellets causing concern where it's used in playing fields for schools or parks. It's been in the news up here this week that a few high schools are going to some kind of organic coconut based pellets.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 07:09 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

We need to do something about that guy behind home plate wearing a wedding cake on his head. He's bad luck or something.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:10 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Shaddup Blue Jays. He was safe. I'm a little surprised, stealing there.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 07:15 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

brumble

d'Kong76 Jun 17 2015 07:17 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Akeel!

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 07:21 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Weird non-control on the change-up.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:24 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Awww. He's nervous. And possibly stupid. Get the DP Akeel! GAH! Come ooooon. A bunt. And of course we fall apart.

Fman99 Jun 17 2015 07:25 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:26 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Aww shit. get him outta there.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2015 07:28 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

The good news for Morris here is that he's recorded an out so will NOT have an infinite ERA.

seawolf17 Jun 17 2015 07:29 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Methinks Akeel Morris isn't quite ready yet. Good effort, rook. See you in September.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:29 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

I feel for this guy. Could you imagine going from A ball to a Major League mound. I'd be a wreck. Ha, Ronnie says he feels for him too.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:33 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Well, our guys have been playing pretty good baseball lately, but I foresee no comeback here. 8-0 Bluebirds

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 07:36 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

We're going to need 10 here. You want an insurance run.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:39 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Oh. I didn't know about Doubleday. That sucks :(

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 07:40 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Mets bench emptyin'.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 07:42 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Well, Campy. You wouldn't've wanted the game without that. Guy doesn't seem to know if he's coming or going, and hasn't for a long time.

d'Kong76 Jun 17 2015 07:45 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Hopefully they can get Akeel in again soon that works out better... felt bad for him, tough to imagine.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 07:45 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Great words from the guyz regarding Mr. Doubleday.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2015 08:17 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

d'Kong76 wrote: Hopefully they can get Akeel in again soon that works out better... felt bad for him, tough to imagine. He'll pitch soon .., for Bingo. He's down, Logan Verrett called up

Edgy MD Jun 17 2015 09:42 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

In retrospect, maybe they should have taken advantage of the spot on the roster left by a vacating Nieuwenhuis and called up Verrett instead of Morris to begin with. Wouldn't have helped that much tonight, of course.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2015 09:53 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

It is funny where you've seen enough baseball to know that any pitcher can dominate any hitter on any night, and vice versa, but put a Jeff Francouer or a kid just up from the Florida State League onto a big league mound, and -- BLAMMO. No contest.

Zvon Jun 17 2015 10:49 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: Hopefully they can get Akeel in again soon that works out better... felt bad for him, tough to imagine. He'll pitch soon .., for Bingo. He's down, Logan Verrett called up I'd be such a bad G.M. or manager. After calling him up from A I would have to give the kid another inning, another chance just to get through an inning. Or even just close an inning, get one out. And then send him down. But I guess if he messes up big time again, he's even more fucked up. Still, they put the kid on the fast track and then traumatize him. I know it's a business and all but still, you're dealing with people.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2015 10:50 PM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

When you think of garbage debuts, think of Akeel!

Lefty Specialist Jun 18 2015 07:27 AM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: It is funny where you've seen enough baseball to know that any pitcher can dominate any hitter on any night, and vice versa, but put a Jeff Francouer or a kid just up from the Florida State League onto a big league mound, and -- BLAMMO. No contest. Yeah, I felt bad for the kid. Hope he makes it back to whittle down that lifetime major league ERA a bit.

seawolf17 Jun 18 2015 07:30 AM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Lefty Specialist wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: It is funny where you've seen enough baseball to know that any pitcher can dominate any hitter on any night, and vice versa, but put a Jeff Francouer or a kid just up from the Florida State League onto a big league mound, and -- BLAMMO. No contest. Yeah, I felt bad for the kid. Hope he makes it back to whittle down that lifetime major league ERA a bit. Me too. I do wish him the best; I remember when we were looking at the 40-man possibilities during the offseason giving him a real look for the first time, and I think he could be a player some day. But that was admittedly a really tough spot.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2015 07:50 AM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Akeel owes a thank-you call to Garret Olson, who appeared in one game in 2012 (yeah, I don't remember either) giving up four runs in 1/3 of an inning, setting the bar for worst ERA in team history at 108.00. Akeel sits second at 67.50, with a handful of seasoned position players and bad ideas behind him. New York natives and guys whose name begins with "J." Retreads, a lot of them. Most are latter day figures, for what that's worth. [list]Highest ERAs in Met History 1) Garrett Olson (2012): 108.00 2) Akeel Morris (2015): 67.50 3) Todd Zeile (2004): 45.00 T4) Derek Bell (2000): 36.00 T4) Brett Hinchliffe (2001): 36.00 6) Tim Hamulack (2005): 23.14 7) Anthony Recker (2013): 18.00 T8) John Lannan (2014): 15.75 T8) Chan Ho Park (2007): 15.75 10) Mike Fyhrie (1996): 15.43 11) James Baldwin (2004): 15.00 T12) Dario Alvarez (2014): 13.50 T12) Dean Chance (1970): 13.50 T12) Matt Franco (1999): 13.50 T12) Eddie Kunz (2008): 13.50 T12) Dan Murray (1999): 13.50 T12) Joe Vitko (1992): 13.50 18) Joe Sambito (1985): 12.66 19) Jonathan Hurst (1994): 12.60 20) Jason Vargas (2007): 12.19[/list:u] I don't know if this was Sandy's idea exclusively or somebody on the development staff championed this move, but... bad idea.

themetfairy Jun 18 2015 08:03 AM Re: IGT 6/17/15 -- Mets @ Blue Jays

Akeel owes a thank-you call to Garret Olson, who appeared in one game in 2012 (yeah, I don't remember either) giving up four runs in 1/3 of an inning, setting the bar for worst ERA in team history at 108.00. Akeel sits second at 67.50, with a handful of seasoned position players and bad ideas behind him. New York natives and guys whose name begins with "J." Retreads, a lot of them. Most are latter day figures, for what that's worth. [list]Highest ERAs in Met History 1) Garrett Olson (2012): 108.00 2) Akeel Morris (2015): 67.50 3) Todd Zeile (2004): 45.00 T4) Derek Bell (2000): 36.00 T4) Brett Hinchliffe (2001): 36.00 6) Tim Hamulack (2005): 23.14 7) Anthony Recker (2013): 18.00 T8) John Lannan (2014): 15.75 T8) Chan Ho Park (2007): 15.75 10) Mike Fyhrie (1996): 15.43 11) James Baldwin (2004): 15.00 T12) Dario Alvarez (2014): 13.50 T12) Dean Chance (1970): 13.50 T12) Matt Franco (1999): 13.50 T12) Eddie Kunz (2008): 13.50 T12) Dan Murray (1999): 13.50 T12) Joe Vitko (1992): 13.50 18) Joe Sambito (1985): 12.66 19) Jonathan Hurst (1994): 12.60 20) Jason Vargas (2007): 12.19[/list:u] I don't know if this was Sandy's idea exclusively or somebody on the development staff championed this move, but... bad idea. I was actually there to witness the Garrett Olson debacle....