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June Swoon

Frayed Knot Jul 01 2015 10:20 AM

In the response to the various Granderson/Cuddyer suxx themes going on: Plawecki: .262/.333/.310 -- 0 HRs Duda: .187/.310/.264 -- 1 HR Flores: .221/.257/.337 -- 2 HR Herrera: .167/.282/.292 -- 1 HR Tejada: .230/.306/.322 -- 0 HR Campbell: .156/.240/.244 -- 1 HR Cuddyer: .211/.237/.311 -- 1 HR Lagares: .260/.267/.410 -- 2 HR Granderson: .297/.371/.544 -- 7 HRs

Edgy MD Jul 01 2015 10:31 AM Re: June Swoon

Or in OPS order, or reverse order of who you want to be criticizing: Granderson: .297/.371/.544 // .915 -- 7 HRs Lagares: .260/.267/.410 // .677 -- 2 HR Plawecki: .262/.333/.310 // .643 -- 0 HRs Tejada: .230/.306/.322 // .628 -- 0 HR Flores: .221/.257/.337 // .594 -- 2 HR Duda: .187/.310/.264 // .574 -- 1 HR Herrera: .167/.282/.292 // .574 -- 1 HR Cuddyer: .211/.237/.311 // .548 -- 1 HR Campbell: .156/.240/.244 // .484 -- 1 HR Campbell has been effectively replaced in the lineup, if not on the roster. So Cuddyer is the next opportunity you want to look at.

Frayed Knot Jul 01 2015 11:15 AM Re: June Swoon

Although when your supposed 30 HR man is [u:2nwu6el8]slugging .264[/u:2nwu6el8] for the month he has to be part of the conversation as well.

Edgy MD Jul 01 2015 12:04 PM Re: June Swoon

It's a big conversation. But it's easiest to start with the lowest-hanging fruit. And in Cuddy's case, he's bruised fruit too.

TransMonk Jul 01 2015 12:12 PM Re: June Swoon

Christ, that's pathetic. I don't know all there is to know about OPS, but isn't league average usually around .700? So, we had 7 below average guys (most woefully so) according to that metric?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 01 2015 12:27 PM Re: June Swoon

Guys who are probably hurt Duda Lagares Cuddyer Guys who actually suck Tejada Capmbell Flores?? Guys who are over their heads Plawecki Hererra Flores?? Guys who are in decline Granderson Cuddyer Flores is the only guy I can't for sure put in any box.

d'Kong76 Jul 01 2015 12:35 PM Re: June Swoon

I just checked my Wilmer IPP and predicted bust. Kinda surprises me because I think he'll eventually find himself. Guess I'm fickle.

Edgy MD Jul 01 2015 12:46 PM Re: June Swoon

Guys with Heavy Feet Flores

Ceetar Jul 01 2015 12:48 PM Re: June Swoon

TransMonk wrote: Christ, that's pathetic. I don't know all there is to know about OPS, but isn't league average usually around .700? So, we had 7 below average guys (most woefully so) according to that metric? leaguewide OPS is .711. (.713 in June) .722 for Non Pitcher. (.724 in June) .727 for non pitcher NL. (.724 in June) .657 for June SSs leaguewide. (so yeah, not like there's a lot to trade for)

Edgy MD Jul 01 2015 01:29 PM Re: June Swoon

And yet, with a truckload of banjos for our offense, the Mets went 12-15 en Junio.

TransMonk Jul 01 2015 01:39 PM Re: June Swoon

Ultimately, this is why I'm more or less opposed to using our young guns to acquire position players via trade this season. Even if the Mets were to acquire one of the best players in the game via trade (even that is not likely), they would still only have one or two truly reliable bats in their lineup at any given time (as opposed to the zero or one reliable bats now). Even with Duda and Murphy batting in the ninth last night, I had little faith that they would come through in a one run ballgame. That list above solidifies the fact that due to injury, suckitude, youth and decline, this Mets offense is much more than one player away from being potent. I would be upset at trading any of the big four arms to get bats to help for the remainder of this season. Now, to Edgy's note above...I'm certainly not giving up on this season. The pitching is keeping them afloat in spite of the offense. But I think the best course is to hope that players with injuries can get healthy or that Colon, Niese or (maybe) Montero and/or Mejia is enough to get us an offensive piece or two to help add depth and get over the hump.

Edgy MD Jul 01 2015 01:45 PM Re: June Swoon

I think that's probably where Sandy Alderson is at, too.