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Band Challenge: Led Zep vs. Petty & the Heartbreakers

Edgy DC
Feb 02 2006 11:44 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Feb 03 2006 09:27 AM

Please vote the winner of each matchup (ties allowed) and the total wins for each side.

Led Zeppelin
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers

"The Immigrant Song"vs."Listen to Her Heart"
"Down By The Seaside"vs."Don't Come Around Here No More"
"Going To California"vs."Breakdown (Live)"
"Thank You"vs."A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)"
"Traveling Riverside Blues"vs."Here Comes My Girl"
"Stairway To Heaven"vs."The Waiting"
"Houses of The Holy"vs."Even the Losers"
"Whole Lotta Love"vs."Don't Do Me Like That"
"Black Dog"vs."American Girl"
"Rock n' Roll"vs."Refugee"

metirish
Feb 02 2006 11:50 PM

I won't vote till tomorrow, but great job by both and cool post Edgy...

soupcan
Feb 03 2006 09:12 AM

"The Immigrant Song" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" - LED ZEP

"Down By The Seaside" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" - LED ZEP

"Going To California" vs. "Breakdown (Live)" - LED ZEP

"Thank You" vs. "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)" - LED ZEP

"Traveling Riverside Blues" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" - LED ZEP

"Stairway To Heaven" vs. "The Waiting" - LED ZEP

"Houses of The Holy" vs. "Even the Losers" - LED ZEP

"Whole Lotta Love" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" - LED ZEP

"Black Dog" vs. "American Girl" - PETTY

"Rock n' Roll" vs. "Refugee" - Toughest match up. Love 'Refugee' (especially when David Spade does it) but 'Rock n' Roll' just rocks too hard. - LED ZEP

It ends up a landslide with ZEP winning 9-1 but it was much closer than it looks for me. If 'Refugee' and 'Don't Do Me Like That' were matched against different songs I probably would have voted for them.

I also really like 'I Need To Know' and likely would have voted for that if it were an option.

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 09:23 AM

Yeah, I might have tried more strategic matchups, but my heart wasn't in tying to gerrymander a win. I never knew we were housing an "I Need to Know" subculture.

My Jason Bonham image keeps breaking.

seawolf17
Feb 03 2006 09:27 AM

"The Immigrant Song" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" - LED ZEP

"Down By The Seaside" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" - PETTY

"Going To California" vs. "Breakdown (Live)" - LED ZEP

"Thank You" vs. "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)" - LED ZEP

"Traveling Riverside Blues" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" - LED ZEP

"Stairway To Heaven" vs. "The Waiting" - LED ZEP

"Houses of The Holy" vs. "Even the Losers" - PETTY

"Whole Lotta Love" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" - LED ZEP

"Black Dog" vs. "American Girl" - PETTY

"Rock n' Roll" vs. "Refugee" - LED ZEP

Score: Zep 7, Petty 3.
This was actually closer than I thought; I didn't like some of the selections on both sides. "American Girl" got a favorable matchup, but Soup's right, "Refugee" had a tough seed. I wanted to vote for "Breakdown," but couldn't. There are a lot of great Petty songs out there, but even with some creative substitutions, I don't know how this isn't a landslide.

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 09:29 AM

Are any of those Zep tracks live or alternate versions?

soupcan
Feb 03 2006 09:35 AM

I didn't specify cuz I didn't know if we were going for specific performances or just the songs themselves, so I'll say no.

If you're looking for some live stuff or some bootlegs I've quite a lot of crap - 'The BBC Sessions' and 'How The West Was Won' albums are really worth listening to.

KC
Feb 03 2006 09:42 AM

Led Zep sweeps. Kinda silly to compare songs like Going To California (a
somewhat obscure song to the non Led Zep fan) and Billboard chart hits like
Breakdown. Just felt like chiming that in.

Lundy
Feb 03 2006 09:58 AM

My scorecard has it 9-1 Zep. Petty avoided the shutout by edging a victory in the last matchup, Refugee vs Rock n' Roll.

cooby
Feb 03 2006 10:03 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 03 2006 10:14 AM

I have a love/hate thing with Petty-either I hate his songs or love them.
With Led Zeppelin, I like most of them, don't hate or love any of them.
Made it interesting figuring it out.
Gotta admit I never heard of some on each side; that I voted tie. Abstained from #2, because I never heard LED ZEP, don't like PETTY.

I should mention both of these bands are among my son's favorites, maybe I know the songs involved in the tie
but just don't know the names of them.



"The Immigrant Song" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" - LED ZEP

"Down By The Seaside" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" - PETTY

"Going To California" vs. "Breakdown (Live)" - NEITHER

"Thank You" vs. "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)" - TIE

"Traveling Riverside Blues" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" - PETTY

"Stairway To Heaven" vs. "The Waiting" - LED ZEP

"Houses of The Holy" vs. "Even the Losers" - LED ZEP

"Whole Lotta Love" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" - LED ZEP

"Black Dog" vs. "American Girl" - LED ZEP

"Rock n' Roll" vs. "Refugee" - PETTY

LED ZEP- 5
PETTY-3
Tie-2

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 10:04 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 03 2006 10:05 AM

"Refugee" scores its first win vs. "Rock and Roll"! I'll take it! (That's to Lundy. As I typed, coo' gave me a second.)

It's that wierd half measure in "Rock and Roll" --- where it almost sounds like the record skips --- that gave me the win there, isn't it?

cooby
Feb 03 2006 10:04 AM

Edgy DC wrote:
"Refugee" scores its first win vs. "Rock and Roll"! I'll take it!

It's that wierd half measure in "Rock and Roll" --- where it almost sounds like the record skips --- that gave me the win there, isn't it?



That was a tough decision, but Refugee is a great song, and since I found myself humming it yesterday at lunchtime, before I even read this, I thought it was a sign I should vote for it.

Though I like Rock and Roll, too.

soupcan
Feb 03 2006 10:07 AM

Edgy are you not voting?

cooby
Feb 03 2006 10:08 AM

What? I don't get it, is there a time limit?


Never mind, I see what Lundy's sayin' now. I better go get another cup of joe

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 03 2006 10:12 AM

HEARTBREAKING ZEPPELIN CRASH: FIT TO BE TIED!
Weilding the “Hammer of the Gods,” Zeppelin whallops a leadoff home run in the first inning, but Heartbreakers pull even with their ferociously mellow admonition while observers wondered aloud why “Seaside” beat out “Trampled Underfoot” or even “Boogie with Stu” as Physical Graffiti artists in the lineup.

The curious lineup construction of the Zeppelins continued with rock-radio stalwart “Going to California,” veteran wimpy 70s prom theme “Thank You,” and the did-they-even-write-this “Traveling Riverside Blues,” in the 3, cleanup and 5 slots, respectively. The Heartbreakers take all 3 and a big upset is on!

Stairway to Heaven has almost nothing left in the tank and cannot take out “The Waiting,” making it, after 6 innings, -- holy, Houses of the Holy! -- 5-1 in favor of the US upstarts!

But then, stuffing the heavy hitters in the back of the lineup, Zeppelin comes back strong, wiping out the Heartbreakers in the late innings before calling on their closer, “Rock n’ Roll,” to turn out the lights. But it’s all they can do: They end in a sister-kissing 5-5 tie!

Fans were left scratching the heads at Soupcan’s lineup construction, noting that they had more than enough bench strength to overcome a Petty lineup missing “A Thing About You,” and “You Got Lucky,” – ironically, getting lucky that “A Woman in Love,” happened to be matched up against one of the wussiest songs in rock history.

A tie! Whoda thunk it?!?

Lundy
Feb 03 2006 10:12 AM

]It's that wierd half measure in "Rock and Roll" --- where it almost sounds like the record skips --- that gave me the win there, isn't it?


Had this matchup happened 10 years ago, I might have voted differently. But whenever I hear Rock n Roll, I think of that Cadillac commercial. It loses points for that.

cooby
Feb 03 2006 10:16 AM

That's true too, that song and Cadillac don't go together at ALL.

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 10:16 AM

I just love Mike Campbell's guitar wail on "Woman in Love." That tone got me the first time and it's had me for 23 years.

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 10:19 AM

I'll vote in my time.

cooby
Feb 03 2006 10:19 AM

Maybe I need to see if I can find "Thank You" on the internet...

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 10:21 AM

I'm down 45-13. What a perfect score to start off Super Bowl weekend with.

Johnny Dickshot
Feb 03 2006 11:00 AM

I had a friend just dorky enough to have cued up "Going to California" on the cassette player in his car as he pulled out of his driveway in New Jersey en route to Cally. We all got a laugh out of that.

Willets Point
Feb 03 2006 11:09 AM

"The Immigrant Song" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" -Abstain: Don't like "Immigrant Song" don't know "Listen to Here Heart"

"Down By The Seaside" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" - LED ZEP

"Going To California" vs. "Breakdown (Live)" - LED ZEP

"Thank You" vs. "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)" - Abstain: Don't think "Thank You" is worth voting for, don't know the Petty song

"Traveling Riverside Blues" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" - LED ZEP

"Stairway To Heaven" vs. "The Waiting" - LED ZEP

"Houses of The Holy" vs. "Even the Losers" - LED ZEP

"Whole Lotta Love" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" - LED ZEP

"Black Dog" vs. "American Girl" - LED ZEP

"Rock n' Roll" vs. "Refugee" - LED ZEP

LED ZEP 8, HEARTBREAKERS 0, TIE 2

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 11:25 AM

Go here, click on "The Vault" and go to 1982 for a classy noir-lit video of "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)."

Do this for me and I'll try to find a clip of "Listen to Her Heart" that'll similarly knock your socks off.

cooby
Feb 03 2006 11:27 AM

Edgy I would have give you two votes for "Stop Dragging My Heart Around"

soupcan
Feb 03 2006 11:29 AM

cooby wrote:
Edgy I would have give you two votes for "Stop Dragging My Heart Around"


I think that technically that is not a TP&tHB song dear.

cooby
Feb 03 2006 11:33 AM

No, it is not, but it is classic Petty. Stevie was just along for the ride.
Actually, I hardly notice her.

Well, except visually, of course

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 11:36 AM

Here's the best I can do on "Listen to Her Heart." Petty claimed to have written after his wife went to a party at Ike Turner's and got locked in.

Petty claimed to be neither part of the punk movement nor the new wavers, but it has a ton of good things from both schools, stinking of attitude while also being romantick and absolutely classikc.

You think you're gonna take her away
With your money and your cocaine
Keep thinkin' that her mind is gonna change
But I know everything is okay

She's gonna listen to her heart
It's gonna tell her what to do
She might need a lot of loving
But she don't need you


You want me to think that I'm being used
You want her to think it's over
You can?t see it doesn't matter what you do
Buddy, you don't even know her

She's gonna listen to her heart
It's gonna tell her what to do
She might need a lot of loving
But she don't need you


And you just can't creep up behind her
And you can't understand that she's my girl
She's my girl!
(break)

She's gonna listen to her heart
It's gonna tell her what to do
She might need a lot of loving
But she don't need you

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 11:38 AM

'Stop Draggin'..." would've qualified, I think. Petty wrote it, and the Heartbreakers back them. Stevie gets the lion's share of the vocals, and her backup singers joined them.

The judges may disqualify it based on the outside contributions, but I don't think the rules should.

"Along for the Ride" would make a good title for a slagging unauthorized Stevie Nicks' biography.

cooby
Feb 03 2006 11:42 AM

Their voices meld beautifully.

I like that word, meld. I think I'm going to start using it more.


You guys both did great lists, good luck to both of you! :)

soupcan
Feb 03 2006 11:51 AM

="Edgy DC"]
She's gonna listen to her heart
It's gonna tell her what to do
She might need a lot of loving
But she don't need you


I always thought the line was '...She might need another lover but she don't need you'.

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 11:57 AM

That should change your vote, no?

sharpie
Feb 03 2006 12:37 PM

I let Dickshot use "Under Pressure" as a Queen song so I would say that the Petty/Wonder song would be usable for either Petty or Stevie Wonder.

seawolf17
Feb 03 2006 12:39 PM

It's actually Petty and Stevie Nicks. Although Tom Petty and Stevie Wonder should probably get together; that would be neat.

sharpie
Feb 03 2006 01:13 PM

The Immigrant Song" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" - Led Zep

"Down By The Seaside" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" - Petty

"Going To California" vs. "Breakdown (Live)" - Petty

"Thank You" vs. "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)" Led Zep

"Traveling Riverside Blues" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" - Petty

"Stairway To Heaven" vs. "The Waiting" - Petty (that freaking "May Queen" line gets my goat)

"Houses of The Holy" vs. "Even the Losers" - Led Zep

"Whole Lotta Love" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" - Led Zep

"Black Dog" vs. "American Girl" - Petty

"Rock n' Roll" vs. "Refugee" - Led Zep

5-5 Tie. Weird. I've already written about Petty. I loved the first couple of Led Zeppelin albums (only one song here from them) but started hating the kids who were gaga over them in high school. Only later did I re-think some of it, but Robert Plant still gives me the creeps.

apmorris
Feb 03 2006 01:23 PM

[list]ZEP
ZEP
ZEP I may have given the edge to TP here IF it wasnt the live version.
ZEP
ZEP
ZEP
ZEP
ZEP
[/list:u]

thanks tho.

Frayed Knot
Feb 03 2006 01:53 PM

]I loved the first couple of Led Zeppelin albums (only one song here from them) but started hating the kids who were gaga over them in high school. Only later did I re-think some of it, but Robert Plant still gives me the creeps.


That pretty much sums up my Zepplining too.
I was a much bigger fan of the earlier, blusier stuff (prolly pick I & IV as faves over the later HotH/Phy Graf era) but really started to get turned off by their disciples who virtually worshipped Plant (chicks), Page (guys), and Bonham (hardcore drunks). The real problem came via rock radio's over-reliance on them; playing their stuff with the frequency of a new, fresh band long after they had stopped being relevant. Even Plant (who I was never a huge fan of) somewhat agreed w/me, saying at one point that the best thing that could happen to their music was that no one play it for at least a year. I realize that much of this was more the fault of radio programmers than the band but I kinda took it out on the Zeps anyway for being the symbol of everything that was wrong with "classic rock". I'm just now - after hearing virtually nothing from them in maybe 5 years - am getting to the point where I can listen again w/o reaching for the station presets almost as a reflex.

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 02:12 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 03 2006 02:16 PM

"The Immigrant Song" vs. "Listen to Her Heart"

John Paul Jones rocks me but doesn't move me. 1-0, TP & the HB

"Down By The Seaside" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More"

I forgot "Seaside" existed and I didn't miss it that much. 2-0, TP & the HB.

"Going To California" vs. "Breakdown (Live)"

As I said, I'm a sucker for the pastoral ballads. 2-1, TP & the HB

"Thank You" vs. "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)"

My feelings about "Woman in Love" are clear. Download it. Play it loud. Bother your friends with. 3-1, TP & the HB

"Traveling Riverside Blues" vs. "Here Comes My Girl"

"Here Comes" was a staple of my college radio show, and I never played it out. 4-1, TP & the HB

"Stairway To Heaven" vs. "The Waiting"

"Stairway" killed rock 'n' roll. "The Waiting" helped revive it.. 5-1, TP & the HB

"Houses of The Holy" vs. "Even the Losers"

I think of voth songs and I think "Holy shit! Turn that up!" 5.5-1.5, TP & the HB.

"Whole Lotta Love" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That"

Benmont Tenc playing his organ vs. Robert Plant playing with his organ. 6.5-1.5, TP & the HB.

"Black Dog" vs. "American Girl"

"American Girl" is iconic without being played out. It's a movie and a novel in two verses. 7.5-1.5, TP & the HB.

"Rock and Roll" vs. "Refugee"

In fact, "Rock and Roll" began rock 'n' roll's revival on the same album "Stairway killed it. Slight win here. Final, 7.5-2.5, TP & the HB.
I really feel like I did this honestly. It's just, well, few of the Zep songs on that list speak to my inner woman.

Funny thing is that I own most of the original Zep catalog on CD, but only one Petty album, and it was a non HB record not included here.

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 02:15 PM

71.5 to 20.5 by my count. And that's counting apmorris's vote literally as 8-0 when he/she probably meant 10-0. I'm going down to Florida to drum up a few gator votes.

metirish
Feb 03 2006 09:44 PM

The Immigrant Song" vs. "Listen to Her Heart" - Zeppelin

"Down By The Seaside" vs. "Don't Come Around Here No More" - Petty

"Going To California" vs. "Breakdown (Live)" - Petty

"Thank You" vs. "A Woman in Love (And It's Not Me)" - Petty

"Traveling Riverside Blues" vs. "Here Comes My Girl" - Petty

"Stairway To Heaven" vs. "The Waiting" - Zeppelin

"Houses of The Holy" vs. "Even the Losers" - Zeppelin

"Whole Lotta Love" vs. "Don't Do Me Like That" - Zeppelin

"Black Dog" vs. "American Girl" - Zeppelin

Close but Led Zeppelin wins for me....

Edgy DC
Feb 03 2006 10:15 PM

76.5-24.5 with Irish shutting down the shop before the last matchup. Good luck, Led Zep.

RealityChuck
Feb 07 2006 11:10 AM

Led Zep for all. Tom Petty meant well, but was never more than a second-class act. "Breakdown" is OK, but would only be a second-string Led Zep song.

Edgy DC
Feb 07 2006 11:22 AM

Does this get 10 more points against me added to my battering? I think 24 hours is more than enough time to get votes in.