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IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast
Ceetar Jul 13 2015 06:32 PM |
ESPN And Berman are just awful.
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Ceetar Jul 13 2015 06:35 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
didn't get the distance tracker up until the second batter.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 13 2015 07:23 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
I like the new format. The old format, where the batters would take pitch after pitch, was horrible.
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Edgy MD Jul 13 2015 07:30 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Best father-and-son hitting combos:
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Fman99 Jul 13 2015 07:38 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
I'll pass. I'd rather watch all you deviates eat each other's assholes than watch the home run derby.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 13 2015 07:56 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
The Boones --Pop Bob with Brett and Aaron.
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Zvon Jul 13 2015 08:04 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Can anyone explain the new format? I don't even have the sound up.
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Zvon Jul 13 2015 08:07 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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And I'm always bracing myself for a collision.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 13 2015 08:10 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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Sure! Brackets, so you compete against another player to get to the next round. Instead of the homers/10 out format, each batter has 4 minutes. The get 30 seconds extra if they hit a long-distance bomb. So rather than take pitch after pitch, they might as well swing at everything. No MYS, which is good for everybody.
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Zvon Jul 13 2015 08:20 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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It's certainly more interesting. I don't recognize any of these guys w/o their baseball caps on. Well, Albert I knew.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 13 2015 08:34 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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I thought that Fman's post, above, was the explanation of the new format.
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Zvon Jul 13 2015 08:42 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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With the sound up there's not much difference. So it's over? Todd Frazier wins. yay! Good for him. *yawn That was just like watching a video game, and I'm sure MLB would be glad to hear that.
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Gwreck Jul 13 2015 10:48 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
The only thing that matters to ESPN is ratings and money. If Berman is costing them viewers, he'll go away. Best bet is to turn off your TV.
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Ceetar Jul 14 2015 07:18 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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How exactly would they know Berman is costing them viewers? Can they measure who's muted the broadcast? They ask about the broadcast in MLB's FanAtBat surveys, and I presume the reviews are pretty bad. Most of the people that won't watch because of Berman have long since decided not to watch. There's probably a growing hate-watch crowd now with social media mocking him. But it wasn't just him. The entire broadcast was pathetic. With no hyperbole, a group of college kids that have only interned in the field could do better. I'm not sure a high school AV club couldn't top it.
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MFS62 Jul 14 2015 07:23 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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In other words, it was a broadcast on ESPN that was about (a stretch) baseball - a subject they don't seem to care about. 'Nuff said. Later
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seawolf17 Jul 14 2015 07:35 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Screw that. I love the Derby; always have. This was much more fast-paced than in previous years. Loved it.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2015 07:36 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
When did Home Run Derby start? I haven't watched an All-Star Game since the early 90's, and I've never seen a Home Run Derby.
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seawolf17 Jul 14 2015 07:37 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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If I had to guess, I would say mid-80s. Straw won one year, didn't he?
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Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 07:54 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Started in 1985 at the Metrodome. Ken Griffey is the only three-time champ.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2015 09:52 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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This is so strange to me. NEVER interested in it, even in just a general-baseball-curiosity way? I'm with Wolf. I didn't even catch it live, and I still found the timer/knockout thing thrilling (and a lot less contrived-feeling than the this-time-it-counts business).
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Frayed Knot Jul 14 2015 09:59 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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Although they didn't televise them from the beginning so, outside of attending the thing, it was a few years after that before you could view one from your living room. That it wasn't televised I'm sure sounds strange to many folks to hear today but there certainly was a time when the idea of 'non-event' sports events -- drafts, 'Selection Sunday', bowl game assignments, 'National Signing Day', pre-game shows that last longer than the games themselves, etc. -- being worthwhile as stand-alone TV shows was considered the much odder thought.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2015 10:02 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Nope, never. My general baseball curiosity completely evaporated in 1994, and it hasn't come back. I haven't even seen a single pitch of a post-season game, live or on replay, since Carlos Beltran took that called strike three in 2006.
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batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2015 10:14 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2015 12:09 PM |
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I paid close attention to one, maybe two Home Run Derbies. I remember the one with Lo Duca pitching to Wright. I have zero interest in the Derby. I think it's for kids. I used to love the MLB all-star game. All the different uniforms lined up. It was a beautiful spectacle - a kaleidoscope of all the baseball colors on the same field. It no longer holds that magic for me. I dunno why. Maybe 'cause I'm getting older. Maybe interleague play dulled what was once, for me anyway, the special occasion of seeing AL and NL players together on a ball field that isn't used for Spring Training. Maybe it was Selig, ruining the game with those stupid contrivances tied to the WS home advantage. Maybe it's the newfangled custom that everybody's gotta get into the game, which was what led to the fiasco in, guess where?, Milwaukee. Or that relievers seem to pitch most of the innings. Yesterday, I was watching old footage of the '72 ASG. Don't ask me why. Bill Stoneman pitched two of the late innings in a very tight game and even took his at bat.
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Frayed Knot Jul 14 2015 10:21 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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ESPN, as the biggest promoter if not the outright inventor of the 'non-event' sporting event (see my last post) LOVES the HR Derby and so I'm sure the bosses in Bristol see it and Berman as a perfect match, a contrived and hyped non-game lorded over by the king of hype and contrivance. I also suspect that Berman has enough pull that he can pretty much assign himself to the broadcast without fear of being shot down in his "request". The only event that I know he'd like to do but doesn't is The Masters (ESPN has the Thursday & Friday rights before CBS takes over on the weekend) and that's not because the honchos at Bristol say no but rather because the ones at Augusta do and they've always had enough guts and are willing to take less money in exchange for retaining the right to call all the shots.
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Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 10:27 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
I've said so before, but I'm a proponent of taking the whole week off from league play (with exceptions below). Switch the All-Star Game to a three-game series. That way everybody can get in without farcical baseball being played. Starting pitchers can go at least five, if their performance warrants it, and managers can make moves that don't shame them as baseball strategists. Fans won't have to wait 30 years for the game to come to their town. That week could also contain the Hall of Fame Game, the Civil Rights Game (both of which would be games that count in the standings), the Futures Game, the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies, the Cracker Jack Oldtimers Classic.
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Frayed Knot Jul 14 2015 10:48 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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Hey, if nothing else so far, Manfred has made it quite clear that he's willing to listen to and talk about just about anything. Write up these suggestions and send them to him.
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Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 10:53 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
I'll either get hired or killed.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2015 10:59 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
I lost interest in the All-Star game around the time I stopped caring about opposing players. When I was a kid, I was definitely interested in seeing a game that had Hank Aaron and Willie Mays and Johnny Bench and Willie Stargell playing on the same team with one or two of my own Mets.
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Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 11:09 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
C'mon, we've played the shit out of the Giants the last few weeks. Surely you got a taste of Brandon Crawford.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2015 11:23 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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Nope. You'd be surprised at how little attention I pay to the opposing team. I honestly don't know who Brandon Crawford is. (If he ever becomes a Met, I'll start paying attention to him.)
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2015 11:35 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Good gravy, Grimm. That's not a tendency; that's Fandom pathology.
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Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 11:47 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Cool-assed Brandon Crawford fact: In 1992 (aka the last time Ben Grimm cared about the All-Star Game), the Giants were looking for new digs and threatening to abandon San Francisco in order to find them. This, naturally, did not sit well with the the five-year-old, baseball-and-Transformers-and-juiceboxes set, and The San Francisco Chronicle published a compelling photo featuring this adorable, heartbroken little moppet.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 14 2015 11:57 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2015 12:22 PM |
I attended the Home Run Derby in Cleveland in 1997. My buddy and I were attending the FanFest and walked around the stadium just to see what was going on. We were approached by a guy selling tickets, and I think he wanted $5 more than the $20 list price.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2015 11:59 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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Ceetar Jul 14 2015 11:59 AM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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you don't even want to know.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2015 12:12 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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What can I say? My interest in baseball has become very narrow. I used to be a rabid fan. I followed every team around the league. I knew who all of the starting players were. Who was hot and who was cold. Had informed opinions regarding who should win the post-season awards. Tried to watch every pitch of every post-season game. But that's all gone now. I never would have imagined that I could become as disaffected as I've become, but I have. And if it could happen to me, it could happen to you! BEWARE!
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Frayed Knot Jul 14 2015 01:33 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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[fimg=500]https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/c06-v3-scherzer-16-1024x657.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1[/fimg] The eyes would give Scherzer away.
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Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 01:42 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
I withdrew in 1987. I had my championship. It was satisfying. Why invest so much time?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 14 2015 01:51 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
I quit smoking baseball completely between 1994 and 1997 but started up again. Damn Kirk Niuecotien.
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Zvon Jul 14 2015 02:14 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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How much did the '94 strike have to do with that?
Joe Shlabotniks custom Scherzer tattoo. How kool is that?
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HahnSolo Jul 14 2015 02:32 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
Edgy is on fire in this thread.
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Frayed Knot Jul 14 2015 03:20 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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The week-off idea has been mentioned several times in discussions surrounding the ASG this week. Can't remember if it was Smoltz or Tony Clark (maybe both!) who was adamant that it's something the players would approve in a heartbeat (NBA players fought for and received a full week starting this past year). The biggest snag, as mentioned, would be the time it would add to the season. Manfred has claimed he's open to anything including scaling back to 154 which would allow that to happen but of course that brings in a whole 'nother set o' problems (not the least of which will be 5% revenue AND pay cuts). My worry is that any shaving of the reg season would result in trying to fill the vacuum (and rediscover lost $$$) with expanded post-season stuff and I think they're already at a saturation point with that now.
Either one would bring a change of pace to an otherwise routine week.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2015 03:30 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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I'd say the strike is about 80 per cent responsible. Another 10 per cent for fatherhood and another 10 per cent for general aging and changing of perspective.
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Zvon Jul 14 2015 04:44 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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The strike effected my love for baseball big time. Well, not my love of the game, my love of big league ball. It took many years to get back to where I am now, and I'm still not 50% the fan I used to be. Always 100% a baseball fan (went to a lot of minor league A.C. SURF games) but being a fan of major league baseball took a big hit. If I didn't feel so strongly about the Mets I don't think I'd have ever found my way back.
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Edgy MD Jul 14 2015 05:05 PM Re: IDT: New Format, Same Bushleague broadcast |
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Three days. Either players, giddy from the prospect of all or a big chunk of a week off mid-season, happily approve adding two days to the start of the season and one to the end, or they add three double-headers. If the gobs of revenue I anticipate coming from a week-long showcase comes to pass, then it'll more than make up for three single-admission double-headers. And the good will that those three glorious Sundays will garner from the fans? All I can say is $$.
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