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You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Edgy MD
Jul 20 2015 12:37 PM

Strange things all around the infield:

[list][*]Tyler Moore is playing first base, in place of Ryan Zimmerman.[/*:m]
[*]Danny Espinsosa is playing second base, in place of Yunel Escobar.[/*:m]
[*]Yunel Escobar is playing third base, in place of Anthony Rendon.[/*:m]
[*]Ian Desmond is playing shortstop, in place of Ian Desmond.[/*:m][/list:u]

The outfield is a little pear-shaped also:

[list][*]Clint Robinson is playing left field, in place of Jason Werth.[/*:m]
[*]Michael Taylor is playing center field, in place of Denard Span.[/*:m][/list:u]

Ceetar
Jul 20 2015 12:45 PM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

If Ted Lerner weren't fucking broke, they'd have the depth to handle those types of injuries instead of desperately clinging to first place. But for a random case of Spinal Stinosis, the Mets would be leaving them embarrassingly in the dust.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 20 2015 01:49 PM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Ian Desmond is playing shortstop, in place of Ian Desmond.

Comedy gold.

d'Kong76
Jul 21 2015 08:11 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Edgy MD wrote:

Ian Desmond is playing shortstop, in place of Ian Desmond.

Quality substitution!

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2015 08:25 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Yeah, that worked out for them last night. As did the Taylor-for-Span thingie.

Terry starting Lucas Duda in place of Lucas Duda still remains a bust.

Ceetar
Jul 21 2015 08:32 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Edgy MD wrote:
Yeah, that worked out for them last night. As did the Taylor-for-Span thingie.

Terry starting Lucas Duda in place of Lucas Duda still remains a bust.


you mean Eric Campbell.

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2015 08:43 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Well, I'm referring more to the Lucas Duda of the last six or seven weeks, rather than the Eric Campbell of last evening, who was a more or less acceptable substitute for Shadow-Lucas.

Ceetar
Jul 21 2015 08:56 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Edgy MD wrote:
Well, I'm referring more to the Lucas Duda of the last six or seven weeks, rather than the Eric Campbell of last evening, who was a more or less acceptable substitute for Shadow-Lucas.


yes, much the way a leftover McDonalds hamburger is more or less an acceptable substitute for a prime steak.

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2015 09:09 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

I'm a vegetarian.

Ceetar
Jul 21 2015 09:13 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm a vegetarian.


So the "play Goeddel everyday at first" gambit.

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2015 09:25 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

I also don't drink.

d'Kong76
Jul 21 2015 09:29 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

I don't smoke crack, but Campbell still sucks.

Ceetar
Jul 21 2015 09:31 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I also don't drink.


You must be awfully dehydrated.

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2015 09:32 AM
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don't smoke crack, but Campbell still sucks.

Well, tell it to the guy pushing Goeddel at first.

Frayed Knot
Jul 21 2015 09:34 AM
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I've mentioned Cliff Robinson before as one of those guys that's helping the Nats over their injuries this year, first to Werth and now mainly for Zimmerman
But before we give GM Rizzo too much credit, Robinson is a 30 y/o career minor leaguer (13 ML ABs prior to this season). He had some good minor league numbers but so did Val Pascucci.

Their other savior has been Danny Espinosa. Once their regular 2B-man and a guy I thought was destined to be better (offensively & defensively) than Desmond.
But he slumped badly over the past two years hitting .200 over 2013-14 combined, at one point talking about giving up switch-hitting, etc. Looked totally lost.

Point is, going into this season I would have bet on a combo of Kirk & JMJ being much better options off the bench (forget for a second that the positions don't match up exactly) than Robinson + Espinosa but not only hasn't it worked out that way but it hasn't even been close.
Bench players are a lot like middle relievers in that it's tough to predict from one year to the next how someone is going to perform. Rizzo can claim he believed in Espinosa all along (and I think he probably did) but he also picked up the Uggla-ness that is Dan Uggla over this past winter so that belief apparently only went so far.

And all of this points out the larger problem with this NYM season. It's not just that Wright & d'Arnaud and, to a lesser extent, Murphy have been missing, or that Cuddyer has underperformed so much at the same time Duda & Lagares seem to be regressing, it's that the guys slated to back them up have all failed so miserably: JMJ, Nieuwenhuis, Campbell, Recker, Muno, Monell, etc. You can overcome one or maybe one and a half of those conditions but we're currently running up against all three: missing starters, backsliding vets, miserable bench.

Edgy MD
Jul 21 2015 10:10 AM
Re: You're Gonna Wanna Better Know Your Nationals

Ceetar wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Well, I'm referring more to the Lucas Duda of the last six or seven weeks, rather than the Eric Campbell of last evening, who was a more or less acceptable substitute for Shadow-Lucas.


yes, much the way a leftover McDonalds hamburger is more or less an acceptable substitute for a prime steak.

I'm really surprised by this sarcasm. Does anybody else think this is remotely controversial? The guy went 1-3 with a walk. Compared to the Lucas Duda of that we've gotten since the spring became the summer, this is a really good game.

MonthGABGPAH1B2B3BHRRRBIBBIBBSOHBPSFSHGDPSBCSAVGOBPSLGOPS
June25912510917124016814326310300.187.312.264.576
Jul1555156173202655024100200.127.213.273.486
Total40146401702415603121319350410500.164.276.267.544


It was a passing observation made with regard to Desmond. That like Desmond, Duda hasn't been playing as well as one might have projected, almost like he's another guy.