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Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 23 2015 12:12 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 24 2015 08:32 AM

Astros get Scott Kazmir for two minor leaguers (neither one Bartolome Fortunato) .... C Jacob Nottingham and right-hander Daniel Mengden, both look they could be prospects.

Frayed Knot Jul 23 2015 12:31 PM Re: Kazmir Traded!!!!

11 years (minus a week) from when he was first traded.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 23 2015 12:51 PM Re: Kazmir Traded!!!!

It begins. Come on, Jonny Boy. Do your thing tomorrow. Up that leverage.

Edgy MD Jul 23 2015 01:29 PM Re: Kazmir Traded!!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Astros get Scott Kazmir for two minor leaguers (neither one Bartolome Fortunato) .... C Jacob Nottingham and right-hander Daniel Mengden, both look they could be prospects. BatMengdenLeadoff!!! Let's make this the Deadline Dealios Thread.

dgwphotography Jul 23 2015 03:51 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!)

Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/a ... trade.html

Nymr83 Jul 23 2015 04:09 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!)

dgwphotography wrote: Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/a ... trade.html He is now a Pirate AGAIN, ESPN says today is 12 years to the day since they sent him to Chicago (along with Kenny Lofton) for Matt Bruback, Jose Hernandez, and Bobby Hill. Pirates got ripped off then i think?

A Boy Named Seo Jul 23 2015 04:56 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!)

dgwphotography wrote: Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/a ... trade.html I don't know if we truly dodged that bullet or not, but I didn't like hearing his name linked with the Mets. Enjoy, Pittsburgh.

TransMonk Jul 23 2015 09:50 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!)

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I don't know if we truly dodged that bullet or not, but I didn't like hearing his name linked with the Mets. Enjoy, Pittsburgh. Agreed. I personally would have waved the white flag if this was the move the Mets made.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 23 2015 09:57 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!)

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Aramis Ramirez is now a Pirate http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/a ... trade.html I don't know if we truly dodged that bullet or not, but I didn't like hearing his name linked with the Mets. Enjoy, Pittsburgh. I didn't necessarily mind his name linked with us, as he's been hitting quite a bit better over the last month or so; I think it was more the idea of giving up something-- anything-- of value to get him that bugged me. That said, a couple of key hits this week notwithstanding, watching Campbell at-bats makes me feel like I should be tallying them with penknife cuts in a wall, or my arm.

smg58 Jul 24 2015 07:21 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!)

Ramirez has been swinging the bat quite a bit better lately, and he was obtained for a relief prospect who currently has a 4.60 ERA and 1.72 WHIP in AAA. I would have upped the bid on that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2015 01:13 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Looks like Steve Cishek to the Cardinals. Mets will miss having him to beat up on.

Nymr83 Jul 24 2015 05:14 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Twitter rumor have Juan Uribe and Kelly Johnson to the Mets

Frayed Knot Jul 25 2015 09:29 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Padres reportedly seeking one "high end" prospect in return for Justin Upton and "possibly two", a price which reportedly has the Mets backing off. [sez: MLB.com] Upton, hitting .248 w/15 HRs, has the pro-rated portion of his $14.5mil contract remaining for this season at which point he can be a FA. Any team acquiring him this year can NOT extend a qualifying offer to him for the purposes of recouping a pick in next year's amateur draft.

Frayed Knot Jul 26 2015 12:38 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Cueto apparently on the verge of being a Royal. Code not yet cracked to make it official or know the price.

Edgy MD Jul 26 2015 12:51 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

They haven't got word in the SNY booth, but the Internet is exploding. Could be huge.

Frayed Knot Jul 26 2015 02:29 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 26 2015 02:52 PM

Three LHPs was the price for Cueto: Brandon Finnegan (who pitched part of last year and this w/KC), plus minor leaguers John Lamb (a 24 y/o who was 9-1, 2.67 at AAA Omaha) and Cody Reed (22 y/o, recently promoted to AA).

Edgy MD Jul 26 2015 02:50 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Finnegan struck me as purty good. But they've used him only out of the pen.

Ashie62 Jul 26 2015 04:20 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

SN Nation, not sure who they are, has Wheeler going for Cespedes or Bruce. Fine by me.

TransMonk Jul 26 2015 05:47 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Wheeler's too much to give for either of those, IMO. Plus he's on the DL.

Frayed Knot Jul 26 2015 06:26 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Ashie62 wrote: SN Nation, not sure who they are, has Wheeler going for Cespedes or Bruce. Sounds like SN stands for 'Speculation Nation' to me. Actually 'Sports Nation' is an umbrella grouping for all kinds of sites so that "info" can be anything from sourced rumors to fan-boi blabbering. Regardless of which, dealing Wheeler now would be all kinds of problematic. He won't pitch in the big leagues for nearly another year still so it's both tough to figure teams giving up too much to get him and it would be an ultimate 'sell low' situation for the Mets. He may ultimately be traded, I just don't think it's going to be now.

Ashie62 Jul 27 2015 10:02 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

If Cincy or Detroit can Be stoopId enough to consider this and act all I can say is LETS GO METS!

Edgy MD Jul 27 2015 10:32 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

I think it's more likely that Sandy's declaration that his "big four" of young pitchers was untouchable got some excitable over-thinkers concluding, "OMYGAWD, he's actively shopping Wheeler!!" Then they filled out their own wish lists, and it suddenly qualified as an active rumor, despite no real information credited to official sources.

TransMonk Jul 27 2015 11:47 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Yeah...I consider Wheeler part of the Mets plan going forward. If Wheeler can fully recover from TJ, I salivate thinking of being able to start a young flamethrower that can hit 94 MPH or more in every single game (barring injury, regression, YYYBBB). Add Familia to the back end (along with Parnell and Mejia if they continue to improve and be effective) and HOLY MOLY it would be like hitting the gas on every opposing team and very rarely taking the foot off.

seawolf17 Jul 27 2015 11:50 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Edgy MD wrote: Finnegan struck me as purty good. But they've used him only out of the pen. I've been playing OOTP16; in June 2015, I traded Daniel Murphy to the Royals for Finnegan straight up. Murphy played out the string in KC, then signed a two-year deal in LA, followed by a one-year deal in MIN. He went 8-for-41 as a Twin, got hurt, and retired. It's 2021; Finnegan has been an ace lefty out of my pen, even finishing third in the 2020 Cy Young race as a middle reliever. I just signed him to a three-year, $26M extension.

Ceetar Jul 27 2015 11:55 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

TransMonk wrote: Yeah...I consider Wheeler part of the Mets plan going forward. If Wheeler can fully recover from TJ, I salivate thinking of being able to start a young flamethrower that can hit 94 MPH or more in every single game (barring injury, regression, YYYBBB). Add Familia to the back end (along with Parnell and Mejia if they continue to improve and be effective) and HOLY MOLY it would be like hitting the gas on every opposing team and very rarely taking the foot off. The Mets already throw harder than every team in baseball, by a wide margin, and that's including Bartolo Colon!

Frayed Knot Jul 27 2015 11:57 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

seawolf17 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Finnegan struck me as purty good. But they've used him only out of the pen. I've been playing OOTP16; in June 2015, I traded Daniel Murphy to the Royals for Finnegan straight up. Murphy played out the string in KC, then signed a two-year deal in LA, followed by a one-year deal in MIN. He went 8-for-41 as a Twin, got hurt, and retired. It's 2021; Finnegan has been an ace lefty out of my pen, even finishing third in the 2020 Cy Young race as a middle reliever. I just signed him to a three-year, $26M extension. So what you're saying is that Finnegan left Murphy in his wake?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 27 2015 12:12 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

I can definitely see Muffy getting injured as a member of the Twins.

TransMonk Jul 27 2015 12:38 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Ceetar wrote: The Mets already throw harder than every team in baseball, by a wide margin, and that's including Bartolo Colon! I want a wider margin...and to not have to include a guy in his mid-40s who has an ERA above 4 and a half.

Frayed Knot Jul 27 2015 04:52 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Shane Victorino from BoSox to Angels

Gwreck Jul 28 2015 05:37 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Tulowitzki to Blue Jays (!!), for Jose and prospects.

sharpie Jul 28 2015 12:49 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Zobrist to Royals. No word yet on who goes the other way. Don Zimmer clings onto his alphabetically last Met designation.

Frayed Knot Jul 28 2015 01:02 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

sharpie wrote: Zobrist to Royals. No word yet on who goes the other way. Don Zimmer clings onto his alphabetically last Met designation. 2 minor league pitchers apparently including former 1st round pick (34th overall 2013) Sean Manaea (LHP). Manaea was in the back half in several of the top 100 prospects lists done over this past winter, not unlike say Brandon Nimmo. He hasn't pitched much this season (just 7 starts) or all that well for that matter so there may be some problem going on. oe: also Aaron Brooks, a 23 y/o reliever currently in high-A ball

Mets – Willets Point Jul 28 2015 01:34 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

When is the actual deadline?

TransMonk Jul 28 2015 01:39 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Friday. 4PM ET, IIRC.

HahnSolo Jul 28 2015 04:41 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Royals not messing around.

sharpie Jul 28 2015 04:56 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Papelbon to Nats for a Double-A pitcher. David (not Daniel) Murphy to Angels.

Frayed Knot Jul 28 2015 05:11 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Papelbon has a no-trade clause and he is supposedly invoking it in order to guarantee that he's to be used as the closer. Wonder how manager Matt Williams views a player dictating how and when he's used? ... not to mention what incumbent Drew Storen thinks about it as he's certainly not done anything to lose that job.

Edgy MD Jul 29 2015 05:56 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Mets have re-signed Omir Santos and hope to have him activated in time for Thursday's Nats opener.

Frayed Knot Jul 29 2015 09:22 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

In the transaction, the Nats agreed to pick up Papelbon's 2016 option (though at a reduced rate and with deferred money) so we best get used to seeing him there for a while. The Phils also pay part of this year's freight and it doesn't sound like the minor leaguer they got back for him is much to crow about. So the main attraction for the Phils seems to be that they got a malcontent out of their clubhouse and got out from under the option which would have kicked in automatically with a certain number of games closed -- but that's what tends to happen when closers get signed to long-term deals.

Ceetar Jul 29 2015 09:27 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Frayed Knot wrote: In the transaction, the Nats agreed to pick up Papelbon's 2016 option (though at a reduced rate and with deferred money) so we best get used to seeing him there for a while. The Phils also pay part of this year's freight and it doesn't sound like the minor leaguer they got back for him is much to crow about. So the main attraction for the Phils seems to be that they got a malcontent out of their clubhouse and got out from under the option which would have kicked in automatically with a certain number of games closed -- but that's what tends to happen when closers get signed to long-term deals. Stupid broke Wilpons always needing the other team to throw in money.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 29 2015 10:13 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Deep-Southern roots, clubhouse enforcing, role fixation, undying love from Philadelphians... Pappy is really just a few dozen alpacas away from being Country Time Junior, ain't he?

Ashie62 Jul 29 2015 10:50 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Mat Latos and Mike Morse from Florida to the Dodgers for three unknown picks from the recent competitive balance draft.

Frayed Knot Jul 29 2015 12:26 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Just to clarify, the reports on this deal say it would be: Morse + Latos + One 'competitive balance'* pick going from Miami to Los Angeles in exchange for three (yet to be named) minor league pitchers heading to south Florida Given that neither Morse or Latos are having a particularly good year, it seems like a bit of a tame trade for the Dodgers now that the Giants are hot on their heels. * 'CB' picks, though I don't claim to understand exactly what the criteria are for handing them out, are given to smaller market teams so there's no way the Dodgers would ever have one of their own

Ceetar Jul 29 2015 12:40 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Frayed Knot wrote: Just to clarify, the reports on this deal say it would be: Morse + Latos + One 'competitive balance'* pick going from Miami to Los Angeles in exchange for three (yet to be named) minor league pitchers heading to south Florida Given that neither Morse or Latos are having a particularly good year, it seems like a bit of a tame trade for the Dodgers now that the Giants are hot on their heels. * 'CB' picks, though I don't claim to understand exactly what the criteria are for handing them out, are given to smaller market teams so there's no way the Dodgers would ever have one of their own Something to do with market share and blah blah blah. varies slightly each year. Could probably look it up, but it's not super important. Think it's pick like ..35? practically a first rounder. Somewhere around where Wright got picked originally. (They called them sandwich picks back then, but now that 'is a hot dog a sandwich' debate has gotten heated, they did away with that terminology) most people framing this is pretty bad from the Marlins standpoint. think I agree.

Centerfield Jul 29 2015 12:51 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Frayed Knot wrote: Papelbon has a no-trade clause and he is supposedly invoking it in order to guarantee that he's to be used as the closer. Wonder how manager Matt Williams views a player dictating how and when he's used? ... not to mention what incumbent Drew Storen thinks about it as he's certainly not done anything to lose that job. How could that possibly be enforced? Does he get to go back to Philly if the phone rings in the 8th?

Ceetar Jul 29 2015 12:56 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Papelbon has a no-trade clause and he is supposedly invoking it in order to guarantee that he's to be used as the closer. Wonder how manager Matt Williams views a player dictating how and when he's used? ... not to mention what incumbent Drew Storen thinks about it as he's certainly not done anything to lose that job. How could that possibly be enforced? Does he get to go back to Philly if the phone rings in the 8th? he could throw a hissy fit.

Frayed Knot Jul 29 2015 01:09 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Ceetar wrote: Something to do with market share and blah blah blah. varies slightly each year. Could probably look it up, but it's not super important. Think it's pick like ..35? practically a first rounder. Somewhere around where Wright got picked originally. (They called them sandwich picks back then, but now that 'is a hot dog a sandwich' debate has gotten heated, they did away with that terminology) Yeah I know in general what CB picks are but I've just never delved into exactly how they're awarded -- it's like half on merit (if one determines that a small market size is "merit" - StL gets one almost every year) and half via lottery (which is an even stranger concept if you ask me) and they're the only picks which are allowed to be traded. most people framing this is pretty bad from the Marlins standpoint. think I agree. Without knowing who the minor leaguers are it's impossible to say (and it may take several years after that to know for sure) but it seems like a strange deal for the Dodgers too. They already have too many OFs and A Gonzalez is a top-notch everyday 1B so that reduces Morse to a RH pinch-hitter who's not really hitting these days (like an older & worse-fielding version of Scott Van Slyke). And I shouldn't think the Giants are quaking in their boots saying; 'Oh shit, the Dodgers just added Mat Freakin Latos to their roster!!'

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2015 01:58 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

I think it was Olney who speculated that Morse came as a favor to the Marlins who wanted salary relief and in exchange are getting lesser prospects from the Dodgers. LA likely to turn right around and release Morse.

MFS62 Jul 29 2015 02:21 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think it was Olney who speculated that Morse came as a favor to the Marlins who wanted salary relief and in exchange are getting lesser prospects from the Dodgers. LA likely to turn right around and release Morse. I hope not. When I heard of this deal, II thought that if they couldn't trade Morse to the AL (or the Tibetan League for that matter. He looks like a Yeti.) I was glad he at least got traded to a team that won't play the Mets too many times each year. If he gets released, he still could come back to the NL East. Later

Edgy MD Jul 29 2015 02:33 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Indeed, he could end up a Met.

Mets Guy in Michigan Jul 29 2015 03:36 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Lots of talk here in Michigan that the MYS will get David Price. Not sure what they have to trade, though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2015 05:04 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Rubie just sent out a trolly tweet to the effect of Mets in pursuit of a trade that will make fans happy. Oh, Tracky just sent one too. There is momentum, hearing a so-called big bat....

MFS62 Jul 29 2015 05:17 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Miami/ LA deal still not completed. Buyer re-Morse? Later

Ashie62 Jul 29 2015 06:43 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Trade Colon.

Edgy MD Jul 29 2015 07:07 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Please. Enough with the calls for blood.

Edgy MD Jul 29 2015 07:15 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Help me out. When did it become OK to trade a guy on the DL? It seems that as recently as the last year or two that if such a guy was included in a deal, he would be officially designated as a PtBNL.

dgwphotography Jul 29 2015 07:20 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

and why hasn't Flores been pulled yet?

Centerfield Jul 29 2015 07:34 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Ok. Let's go get Upton now and make our run.

Frayed Knot Jul 29 2015 07:42 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Seems like that Marlins/Dodgers dealio is in the process of morphing into a 3 team extravaganza with the Braves now involved. From MLB.com: If the trade is completed, the Dodgers will reportedly receive Latos and Morse as well as Atlanta starting pitcher Alex Wood, closer Jim Johnson, reliever Luis Avilan and infielder Jose Peraza, while sending to Atlanta recent Cuban signing Hector Olivera, injured reliever Paco Rodriguez and Minor League pitcher Zach Bird, according to Major League sources. Atlanta also will receive a competitive-balance Draft pick from Miami, which would get three Minor League pitchers from Los Angeles. The clubs have not confirmed the deal.

Zvon Jul 29 2015 08:29 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Hamels to Texas.

sharpie Jul 30 2015 11:14 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

David Price to Jays.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 30 2015 11:36 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

More all-in this season: Royals or Jays? Also... Royals-Jays ALCS? Possible Dodger-Cardinal match up in the NL? OH MY GOD WE'RE IN A TIME WARP

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2015 12:28 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

OF/1B Brandon Wood to StL from Cleveland Cards have been searching for a more permanent solution to 1B since Matt Adams was injured.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2015 12:37 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Brandon Moss you mean.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2015 12:41 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Yeah, him. Just as I'm typing that I'm also hearing that Alex Wood is part of the re-vamped Marlins/Dodgers trade that now involves the Braves.

Ceetar Jul 30 2015 01:01 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Frayed Knot wrote: Yeah, him. Just as I'm typing that I'm also hearing that Alex Wood is part of the re-vamped Marlins/Dodgers trade that now involves the Braves. which has been going on since early yesterday. Michael Morse made the last out in the Marlins game, so presumably not official yet either.

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2015 03:00 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

And to bolster their pitching staff (especially with word today that Michael Pineda will NOT make tonight's start and is going on the DL) the Yanquis were able to land ... ... perennially disappointing (and former #2 overall pick) Dustin Ackley from Seattle. Oh did I mention that he's a 2B/LF ? Two NYY pro(su)spects going the other way. They also just DFA'd Chris Capuano after his disaster start the other night (the one where they bailed him out with 21 unanswered runs). At this point I think I'm 3rd in line to start their game on Sunday.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2015 08:26 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Brian Sabean takes a leak. Giants GM Brian Sabean swung a trade for RHP Mike Leake sending two prospects to Cincinnati to make the deal. Leake was supposedly on the Yanx radar but current rumors have them going after more relievers like maybe Kimbrel.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2015 10:35 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Gerardo Parra >>>> Orioles Pitching prospect Zach Davies >>>> Brewers

seawolf17 Jul 31 2015 11:43 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Dan Haren to the Cubs. Your new Marlins ace: Tom Koehler. (I know, Jose Fernandez. Just let me pretend.)

Edgy MD Jul 31 2015 12:37 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

The Jays got a guy named Ben Revere Just him, David Price, and a quart of beer

Mets – Willets Point Jul 31 2015 12:46 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Frayed Knot wrote: Brian Sabean takes a leak. Giants GM Brian Sabean swung a trade for RHP Mike Leake sending two prospects to Cincinnati to make the deal. Leake was supposedly on the Yanx radar but current rumors have them going after more relievers like maybe Kimbrel. Impossible by definition to avoid spreading news of that trade Leake.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2015 01:05 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

There was an old Saturday Night Live sketch with Harry Shearer as a host of a radio station with an "all-time" format, just reading the time over and over again, taking calls asking for the hour, just repeating over and over again, "It's three minutes after the hour... three minutes after the hours... it's thr... OH, HEY! it's FOUR minutes after the hour." That's what #mets twitter reads like right now.

TransMonk Jul 31 2015 03:22 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Trade deadline winners and losers Loser: New York Mets' fans angst. The Gomez trade ... Flores' tears ... fears that the Wilpons were too cheap to pick up a bat ... that brutal loss to the Padres on Thursday ... it was worse than taking the subway in 100-degree temperatues. And then ... Winner: New York Mets fans. In the end, they get Yoenis Cespedes ... and didn't have to give up Zack Wheeler, like they would have in the Gomez deal from a couple of days ago. Cespedes is just a rental, but holding on to Wheeler is a good thing. Cespedes was hot in July -- .291, eight home runs -- and his current .323 OBP is higher than 2013 and 2014, but he's a streaky hitter and probably should remain in left field even though he played a little center his first year with the A's.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2015 10:11 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

The residue of the flurry of deals at the deadline is the flurry of DFAs that follows as teams make room for their shiny new things. Here's some of the guys that can be had at bargain-basement prices just in the last three days (exies in bold). 07/31/15 Baltimore Orioles designated RHP Bud Norris for assignment. New York Yankees designated RF Garrett Jones for assignment. Chicago Cubs designated RHP Ben Rowen for assignment. Pittsburgh Pirates designated RHP Deolis Guerra for assignment. Baltimore Orioles designated 1B Chris Parmelee for assignment. Minnesota Twins designated LHP Caleb Thielbar for assignment. St. Louis Cardinals designated RHP Marcus Hatley for assignment. 7/30/15 Houston Astros designated RHP Roberto Hernandez for assignment. St. Louis Cardinals designated 1B Dan Johnson for assignment. Pittsburgh Pirates designated RHP Vance Worley for assignment. Boston Red Sox designated RF Daniel Nava for assignment. Los Angeles Dodgers designated RHP Chin-hui Tsao for assignment. Los Angeles Dodgers designated LF Chris Heisey for assignment. Los Angeles Dodgers designated RHP Brandon Beachy for assignment. Los Angeles Dodgers designated 1B Michael Morse for assignment. 07/29/15 Atlanta Braves designated RHP David Carpenter for assignment. Chicago Cubs designated RF Mike Baxter for assignment. New York Yankees designated LHP Chris Capuano for assignment. Toronto Blue Jays designated LHP Felix Doubront for assignment. Texas Rangers designated LHP Wandy Rodriguez for assignment. Los Angeles Angels designated LF Efren Navarro for assignment. Boston Red Sox designated 2B Jemile Weeks for assignment.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2015 11:17 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

It may take years to untangle that massive Braves/Dodgers/Marlins deal which originally grew out of the aborted Latos/Morse trade. All that is known right now is that the Dodgers took on and/or paid out a helluva lotta money in this transaction. Guess a $200+ mil payroll just doesn't buy as complete a team as it used to. Braves to Dodgers: Jose Peraza (AAA pitcher - Top 100 prospect in pre-season 2015) Bronson Arroyo (hasn't played all year - essentially a salary dump of approx $8 mil, split between teams undisclosed) Luis Avilan (ML LH reliever) Jim Johnson (ML reliever - twice a 50-save man w/Balt) Alex Wood (LH starter) Marlins to Dodgers: Mat Latos (we all know him - big, blond ape with all the silly tats. Signed thru this year only) Mike Morse (a salary dump who was promptly released by LA. Already picked up by Pitt, Dodgers will pay ~$10.5 mil for the remainder of this season plus 2016) Dodgers to Braves: Paco Rodriguez (ML LH reliever) Zachary Bird (A-ball pitcher) Hector Olivera (currently in AAA OK City - Cuban emigre signed to a six year/$62.5 mil deal in May '15. Dodgers will pay entire $28 mil signing bonus.) Dodgers to Marlins: Victor Araujo (A-ball reliever) Jeff Brigham (A-ball pitcher) Kevin Guzman (A-ball pitcher) Marlins to Braves: 2016 competitive balance round A pick to the Braves (probably an upper-30s/lower-40s pick next year)

Edgy MD Aug 01 2015 11:42 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

And as noted at the bottom of the previous page, the Dodgers ended up DFA-ing five different dudes (but not Carl Crawford) in the flurry. Heck, they just benched a guy (cf Joc Pederson) two weeks after he was in the All Star Game.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2015 10:03 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

Phil Mushnick wrote: Here’s an on-air, show-ending quote from an expert among experts on Wednesday. Guess who said it: [list]“I can confirm for you now that the Mets and [Yoenis] Cespedes is out. So that is out. So I don’t know where it went; it doesn’t matter. It’s out. There’s no Cespedes. So he’s off the list. It’ll now be elsewhere. So it will not be him. Scratch him off the list.”[/list:u] Other inside, all-knowing claims made by Mike Francesa included that neither the Rockies’ Troy Tulowitzki nor the Brewers’ Carlos Gomez would be traded

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2015 10:23 AM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

There's nothing Mushnick loves more than catching Francesa (or Fran-Say-So as he often calls him) in loud pronouncements seemingly born of insider authority that turn out to be unfounded.

TransMonk Aug 03 2015 01:13 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

I think this may get lost in a lot of the Flores love that is going on, but this was pretty cool, too. I've never heard of anyone else doing it. Marc Carig of Newsday wrote: "I told him I know it's a business and he has a job to do, but I'd really like to be here because of what's about to happen," Wheeler told Newsday on Sunday. "I've been here a couple of years and want to see it through." He spoke about why he made the call. "I know that doesn't happen every day and I was nervous about doing it," said Wheeler, still a Met. "But I figured it was the best way to get it across that I wanted to stay and be a part of this team's winning future." [url]http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/zack-wheeler-why-i-made-the-call-to-sandy-alderson-asking-to-stay-a-met-1.10700429 As a fan, I'm glad Wheeler wants to stay because I've always wanted him around and would have been disappointed if he'd been traded.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2015 01:26 PM Re: Deadline Dealios!!!! (!!!) (?)

That's what I think they understand. This year may or may not play out gloriously, but there's an extended golden era we're just now on the threshold of.